AP reporting gun homicides down 39% since 90's(Bureau of Justice Statistics)

[tinydancer]

I love days like today. Amazing statistics by your very own government. Immodium AD extra strength is flying off the shelves in Washington as I type.

Make sure you tell a lib today that they are full of shit when they talk about escalating gun violence. And take great pleasure in it.

Really check the numbers. They are stunning.



Reports show gun homicides down since 1990s

WASHINGTON (AP) - Gun homicides have dropped steeply in the United States since their 1993 peak, a pair of reports released Tuesday showed, adding fuel to Congress' battle over whether to tighten restrictions on firearms.

A study released Tuesday by the government's Bureau of Justice Statistics found that gun-related homicides dropped from 18,253 in 1993 to 11,101 in 2011. That's a 39 percent reduction.

Another report by the private Pew Research Center found a similar decline by looking at the rate of gun homicides, which compares the number of killings to the size of the country's growing population.

It found that the number of gun homicides per 100,000 people fell from 7 in 1993 to 3.6 in 2010, a drop of 49 percent.

Both reports also found that non-fatal crimes involving guns were down by roughly 70 percent over that period. The Justice report said the number of such crimes diminished from 1.5 million in 1993 to 467,300 in 2011.

But perhaps because of the intense publicity generated by recent mass shootings such as the December massacre of 20 school children and six educators in Newtown, Conn., the public seems to have barely noticed the reductions in gun violence, the Pew study shows.



Reports show gun homicides down since 1990s - WBAY

 

[tjvh]

Yup... Except for gun free liberal cities like Chicago where crime is at record highs because law abiding citizens have been disarmed and are unable to protect themselves.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Yup... Except for gun free liberal cities like Chicago where crime is at record highs because law abiding citizens have been disarmed and are unable to protect themselves.

This is not the slightest bit true.

Chicago's crime rate has been dropping since the 90s, just like everywhere else in this country.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

By the way, what liberals have been talking about "escalating gun violence"?

 

[hortysir]

We must BAN STUDIES and limit their sample size

 

[tinydancer]

We must BAN STUDIES and limit their sample size

Aye carumba! Don't give them any ideas.

 

[tjvh]

Yup... Except for gun free liberal cities like Chicago where crime is at record highs because law abiding citizens have been disarmed and are unable to protect themselves.

This is not the slightest bit true.

Chicago's crime rate has been dropping since the 90s, just like everywhere else in this country.

Nonsense. Chicago recorded over 500 homicides in 2012.
Chicago police confirm 'tragic number' of 500 homicides - Chicago Tribune
From the link: shootings had increased by 11 percent, according to police statistics.

 

[Little-Acorn]

BTW, when it comes to Concealed-Carry permits, you know what a "shall-issue" state is as opposed to a "may issue" state, right?

In a "shall-issue" state, when you apply for a concealed-carry permit, they must issue it to you unless they can find a good reason (you are a felon, you are underage etc.) not to.

In a "may issue" state, they can refuse you the permit for any reason at all, like if you didn't give them a good enough reason why you should have one. These are sometimes called "shall die" states, since it seems like that's what it takes to get a permit sometimes.

So now this report comes out from the U.S. Justice Dept, saying gun crimes have gone way down over the last few decades.

Do you suppose that has anything to do with the fact that the number of "shall issue" states has gone way up during the same period, and the number of "may issues" states had gone way down? In other words, a LOT more law-abiding citizens have been able to carry concealed weapons.

And what do you know? Gun crime went WAY down.

Naw, that couldn't have had anything to do with it. Nope, nope.

 

[tjvh]

By the way, what liberals have been talking about "escalating gun violence"?

Were your eyes completely closed in the months following Sandy Hook? The question should be what liberals didn't talk about escalating gun violence.

 

[OriginalShroom]

Isn't it amazing how facts go against what the Left Wing media would have you believe?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Yup... Except for gun free liberal cities like Chicago where crime is at record highs because law abiding citizens have been disarmed and are unable to protect themselves.

This is not the slightest bit true.

Chicago's crime rate has been dropping since the 90s, just like everywhere else in this country.

Nonsense. Chicago recorded over 500 homicides in 2012.
Chicago police confirm 'tragic number' of 500 homicides - Chicago Tribune
From the link: shootings had increased by 11 percent, according to police statistics.

And in 1992, there were 943 homicides in Chicago.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

By the way, what liberals have been talking about "escalating gun violence"?

Were your eyes completely closed in the months following Sandy Hook? The question should be what liberals didn't talk about escalating gun violence.

I heard a lot of liberals talking about "gun violence". I don't remember anyone claiming that it was "escalating".

Do you have a quote?

 

[tjvh]

This is not the slightest bit true.

Chicago's crime rate has been dropping since the 90s, just like everywhere else in this country.

Nonsense. Chicago recorded over 500 homicides in 2012.
Chicago police confirm 'tragic number' of 500 homicides - Chicago Tribune
From the link: shootings had increased by 11 percent, according to police statistics.

And in 1992, there were 943 homicides in Chicago.

The point is the homicide rate has still risen in Chicago from the previous year.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Nonsense. Chicago recorded over 500 homicides in 2012.
Chicago police confirm 'tragic number' of 500 homicides - Chicago Tribune
From the link: shootings had increased by 11 percent, according to police statistics.

And in 1992, there were 943 homicides in Chicago.

The point is the homicide rate has still risen in Chicago from the previous year.

But that's not what you said.

"Record highs" doesn't mean "slightly higher than last year".

 

[Ringel05]

This is not the slightest bit true.

Chicago's crime rate has been dropping since the 90s, just like everywhere else in this country.

Nonsense. Chicago recorded over 500 homicides in 2012.
Chicago police confirm 'tragic number' of 500 homicides - Chicago Tribune
From the link: shootings had increased by 11 percent, according to police statistics.

And in 1992, there were 943 homicides in Chicago.

So basically what you're saying is restrictive gun laws have no affect on the crime rate either way.........

 

[Little-Acorn]

BTW, when it comes to Concealed-Carry permits, you know what a "shall-issue" state is as opposed to a "may issue" state, right?

In a "shall-issue" state, when you apply for a concealed-carry permit, they must issue it to you unless they can find a good reason (you are a felon, you are underage etc.) not to.

In a "may issue" state, they can refuse you the permit for any reason at all, like if you didn't give them a good enough reason why you should have one. These are sometimes called "shall die" states, since it seems like that's what it takes to get a permit sometimes.

So now this report comes out from the U.S. Justice Dept, saying gun crimes have gone way down over the last few decades.

Do you suppose that has anything to do with the fact that the number of "shall issue" states has gone way up during the same period, and the number of "may issues" states had gone way down? In other words, a LOT more law-abiding citizens have been able to carry concealed weapons.

And what do you know? Gun crime went WAY down.

Naw, that couldn't have had anything to do with it. Nope, nope.

 

[Agit8r]

yeah, all crime is down since they took the lead out of gasoline

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Nonsense. Chicago recorded over 500 homicides in 2012.
Chicago police confirm 'tragic number' of 500 homicides - Chicago Tribune
From the link: shootings had increased by 11 percent, according to police statistics.

And in 1992, there were 943 homicides in Chicago.

So basically what you're saying is restrictive gun laws have no affect on the crime rate either way.........

That's pretty much what I'm saying.

 

[Old Rocks]

Gun deaths in the US

2011: 32,1637
2010: 31,6728
2009: 31,347
2008: 31,593
2007: 31,224
2006: 30,896
2005: 30,694
2004: 29,569
2003: 30,136
2002: 30,242
2001: 29,573
2000: 28,663
1999: 28,874




Compare
Rate of All Gun Deaths per 100,000 People
ChartIn the United States, the annual rate of all gun deaths per 100,000 population is

2011: 10.37
2010: 10.268
2009: 10.22
2008: 10.39
2007: 10.37
2006: 10.35
2005: 10.39
2004: 10.10
2003: 10.39
2002: 10.51
2001: 10.38
2000: 10.19
1999: 10.35

Guns in the United States: Facts, Figures and Firearm Law

 

[Steelplate]

30,000 people every year die of gunshot wounds. This includes homicides, suicides and accidental shootings.

Universal Background checks can reduce two of the three. Especially with the mental health provisions included in Toomey/Manchin. That does not mean that homicides won't happen, suicides by gun eliminated, or even that guns will miraculously stop getting into the wrong hands....but it will reduce them considerably.

The only thing it won't help at all is accidental shootings.... because stupidity, irresponsibility and just plain bad luck can't be fixed.