Appreciation thread for the Iowa governor, Republican Kim Reynold's, who just issued a mask mandate

You know ventilators killed more people than covid at teh start, right?

Why don't we talk about them anymore? Because they shouldn't have been used lol
They're still using them stupid

It would be SO nice if you assholes knew what you were talking about

Not at anything nearing the rate they were

They were throwing everyone on ventilators

Even young kids

Don't you remember the stories about italy running out of them? Yea that's because they were using way too many. We still have shortages world wide if that was the proper treatment path.

When all 95%+ of these people needed was a steroid and to be sent home.

Per usual, you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. Yes, vents were overused in the very beginning. Seems pretty normal that medical professionals have learned a lot about treatment of a novel virus. No, a shot of steroids is not a cure. Jesus :rolleyes-41:
Waiting a week to get better is the "cure" like for any flu virus
 
You know ventilators killed more people than covid at teh start, right?

Why don't we talk about them anymore? Because they shouldn't have been used lol
They're still using them stupid

It would be SO nice if you assholes knew what you were talking about

Not at anything nearing the rate they were

They were throwing everyone on ventilators

Even young kids

Don't you remember the stories about italy running out of them? Yea that's because they were using way too many. We still have shortages world wide if that was the proper treatment path.

When all 95%+ of these people needed was a steroid and to be sent home.

Per usual, you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. Yes, vents were overused in the very beginning. Seems pretty normal that medical professionals have learned a lot about treatment of a novel virus. No, a shot of steroids is not a cure. Jesus :rolleyes-41:


Literally old man priest giving up his ventilator to a boy who no doubt would have been better off without one.

And more than likely the ventilator killed the priest too because your lungs don't work very well after a short time on them.

Which is also the cause of all this concern. Without high ventilator use hospital beds will never fill up. This whole mess was all predicated on throwing ventilators on everyone.

I'm related to a handful of ivy league educated doctors.....What I'm relaying to you is fact. I know how these people do things. They do not know what the fuck is going on most of the time unless there is good science backing their view. And there is no good science on the rona. They do not teach you critical thinking in med school. Doctors don't even get better health outcomes than just regular people in a free market health care system. That should tell you all you need to know about their expertise
 
You know ventilators killed more people than covid at teh start, right?

Why don't we talk about them anymore? Because they shouldn't have been used lol
They're still using them stupid

It would be SO nice if you assholes knew what you were talking about

Not at anything nearing the rate they were

They were throwing everyone on ventilators

Even young kids

Don't you remember the stories about italy running out of them? Yea that's because they were using way too many. We still have shortages world wide if that was the proper treatment path.

When all 95%+ of these people needed was a steroid and to be sent home.

Per usual, you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. Yes, vents were overused in the very beginning. Seems pretty normal that medical professionals have learned a lot about treatment of a novel virus. No, a shot of steroids is not a cure. Jesus :rolleyes-41:


Literally old man priest giving up his ventilator to a boy who no doubt would have been better off without one.

And more than likely the ventilator killed the priest too because your lungs don't work very well after a short time on them.

Which is also the cause of all this concern. Without high ventilator use hospital beds will never fill up. This whole mess was all predicated on throwing ventilators on everyone.

I'm related to a handful of ivy league educated doctors.....What I'm relaying to you is fact. I know how these people do things. They do not know what the fuck is going on most of the time unless there is good science backing their view. And there is no good science on the rona. They do not teach you critical thinking in med school. Doctors don't even get better health outcomes than just regular people in a free market health care system. That should tell you all you need to know about their expertise

You are getting your COVID news from quacks like Tony Atlas who is a fucking RADIOLOGIST who hasn't practiced medicine in 10 years. I don't listen to idiot clown Rump sycophants - OR to guys like you.
 
You know ventilators killed more people than covid at teh start, right?

Why don't we talk about them anymore? Because they shouldn't have been used lol
They're still using them stupid

It would be SO nice if you assholes knew what you were talking about

Not at anything nearing the rate they were

They were throwing everyone on ventilators

Even young kids

Don't you remember the stories about italy running out of them? Yea that's because they were using way too many. We still have shortages world wide if that was the proper treatment path.

When all 95%+ of these people needed was a steroid and to be sent home.

Per usual, you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. Yes, vents were overused in the very beginning. Seems pretty normal that medical professionals have learned a lot about treatment of a novel virus. No, a shot of steroids is not a cure. Jesus :rolleyes-41:


Literally old man priest giving up his ventilator to a boy who no doubt would have been better off without one.

And more than likely the ventilator killed the priest too because your lungs don't work very well after a short time on them.

Which is also the cause of all this concern. Without high ventilator use hospital beds will never fill up. This whole mess was all predicated on throwing ventilators on everyone.

I'm related to a handful of ivy league educated doctors.....What I'm relaying to you is fact. I know how these people do things. They do not know what the fuck is going on most of the time unless there is good science backing their view. And there is no good science on the rona. They do not teach you critical thinking in med school. Doctors don't even get better health outcomes than just regular people in a free market health care system. That should tell you all you need to know about their expertise

You are getting your COVID news from quacks like Tony Atlas who is a fucking RADIOLOGIST who hasn't practiced medicine in 10 years. I don't listen to idiot clown sycophants - OR to guys like you.

I don't even know who tony atlas is...? lol

I can just read, we have generations of science that says cloth masks do nothing for viruses

We have no data to suggest semi quartines or lockdowns will do anything to stop the spread of a virus over any substantive length of time.

I could go on.

The only doctor in control of policy in the west is in Sweden. Where he didn't force masks or any substantive lock down because there is no evidence it does anything. The rest are jsut politicians worried about their political clout not science. THe science says unless your hospital beds are filled up there is no reason to think any of these other measures will do anything.

Wash your hands, cough into your arm, that's it. Same advice we've always given. if there was more to say we'd have all sorts of peer reviewed data to back up claims like cloth masks in anyway lower risk profile in any context from viral spread.

Anything we didn't know before corona is almost garunteed bad science outside the CDC trials, they can function as tehy normally would without corona. No one else can break these various rules to have a proper study on for example cloth masks. So even if there is evidence out there cloth masks work, we do not have it. And we had generations before corona to prove it, which we did not. Only the Asians do it, but they also drink tiger dick soup for virility so spare me pointing to their medical "expertise" they don't have
 
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The worsening virus requires mask mandates. Leaders such as Reynolds and Joe Biden get this:
Appreciation for Nazi Joe and the DemNazi Party's upcoming National Martial Law Lockdown and Nazi Mask Mandate. Joe is as illegitimate in 2020 and Hitler was in 1933.
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"A Dark Winter is coming! We must make lists of our enemies, round them up and put them in re-education camps!"

Joe Biden
 
You know ventilators killed more people than covid at teh start, right?

Why don't we talk about them anymore? Because they shouldn't have been used lol
They're still using them stupid

It would be SO nice if you assholes knew what you were talking about

Not at anything nearing the rate they were

They were throwing everyone on ventilators

Even young kids

Don't you remember the stories about italy running out of them? Yea that's because they were using way too many. We still have shortages world wide if that was the proper treatment path.

When all 95%+ of these people needed was a steroid and to be sent home.

Per usual, you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. Yes, vents were overused in the very beginning. Seems pretty normal that medical professionals have learned a lot about treatment of a novel virus. No, a shot of steroids is not a cure. Jesus :rolleyes-41:


Literally old man priest giving up his ventilator to a boy who no doubt would have been better off without one.

And more than likely the ventilator killed the priest too because your lungs don't work very well after a short time on them.

Which is also the cause of all this concern. Without high ventilator use hospital beds will never fill up. This whole mess was all predicated on throwing ventilators on everyone.

I'm related to a handful of ivy league educated doctors.....What I'm relaying to you is fact. I know how these people do things. They do not know what the fuck is going on most of the time unless there is good science backing their view. And there is no good science on the rona. They do not teach you critical thinking in med school. Doctors don't even get better health outcomes than just regular people in a free market health care system. That should tell you all you need to know about their expertise

You are getting your COVID news from quacks like Tony Atlas who is a fucking RADIOLOGIST who hasn't practiced medicine in 10 years. I don't listen to idiot clown Rump sycophants - OR to guys like you.
I get my Covid news from Worldometers, and it shows that Gestapo facediaper states have the highest mortality rates.
 
You know ventilators killed more people than covid at teh start, right?

Why don't we talk about them anymore? Because they shouldn't have been used lol
They're still using them stupid

It would be SO nice if you assholes knew what you were talking about

Not at anything nearing the rate they were

They were throwing everyone on ventilators

Even young kids

Don't you remember the stories about italy running out of them? Yea that's because they were using way too many. We still have shortages world wide if that was the proper treatment path.

When all 95%+ of these people needed was a steroid and to be sent home.

Per usual, you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. Yes, vents were overused in the very beginning. Seems pretty normal that medical professionals have learned a lot about treatment of a novel virus. No, a shot of steroids is not a cure. Jesus :rolleyes-41:


Literally old man priest giving up his ventilator to a boy who no doubt would have been better off without one.

And more than likely the ventilator killed the priest too because your lungs don't work very well after a short time on them.

Which is also the cause of all this concern. Without high ventilator use hospital beds will never fill up. This whole mess was all predicated on throwing ventilators on everyone.

I'm related to a handful of ivy league educated doctors.....What I'm relaying to you is fact. I know how these people do things. They do not know what the fuck is going on most of the time unless there is good science backing their view. And there is no good science on the rona. They do not teach you critical thinking in med school. Doctors don't even get better health outcomes than just regular people in a free market health care system. That should tell you all you need to know about their expertise

You are getting your COVID news from quacks like Tony Atlas who is a fucking RADIOLOGIST who hasn't practiced medicine in 10 years. I don't listen to idiot clown sycophants - OR to guys like you.

I don't even know who tony atlas is...? lol

I can just read, we have generations of science that says cloth masks do nothing for viruses

We have no data to suggest semi quartines or lockdowns will do anything to stop the spread of a virus over any substantive length of time.

I could go on.

The only doctor in control of policy in the west is in Sweden. Where he didn't force masks or any substantive lock down because there is no evidence it does anything. The rest are jsut politicians worried about their political clout not science. THe science says unless your hospital beds are filled up there is no reason to think any of these other measures will do anything.

Wash your hands, cough into your arm, that's it. Same advice we've always given. if there was more to say we'd have all sorts of peer reviewed data to back up claims like cloth masks in anyway lower risk profile in any context from viral spread.

Doctors and scientists in appropriate fields are recommending 3 ply surgical masks, not cloth.
There's butt-tons of science now that backs them up, but you wouldn't likely be interested.

 
You know ventilators killed more people than covid at teh start, right?

Why don't we talk about them anymore? Because they shouldn't have been used lol
They're still using them stupid

It would be SO nice if you assholes knew what you were talking about

Not at anything nearing the rate they were

They were throwing everyone on ventilators

Even young kids

Don't you remember the stories about italy running out of them? Yea that's because they were using way too many. We still have shortages world wide if that was the proper treatment path.

When all 95%+ of these people needed was a steroid and to be sent home.

Per usual, you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. Yes, vents were overused in the very beginning. Seems pretty normal that medical professionals have learned a lot about treatment of a novel virus. No, a shot of steroids is not a cure. Jesus :rolleyes-41:


Literally old man priest giving up his ventilator to a boy who no doubt would have been better off without one.

And more than likely the ventilator killed the priest too because your lungs don't work very well after a short time on them.

Which is also the cause of all this concern. Without high ventilator use hospital beds will never fill up. This whole mess was all predicated on throwing ventilators on everyone.

I'm related to a handful of ivy league educated doctors.....What I'm relaying to you is fact. I know how these people do things. They do not know what the fuck is going on most of the time unless there is good science backing their view. And there is no good science on the rona. They do not teach you critical thinking in med school. Doctors don't even get better health outcomes than just regular people in a free market health care system. That should tell you all you need to know about their expertise

You are getting your COVID news from quacks like Tony Atlas who is a fucking RADIOLOGIST who hasn't practiced medicine in 10 years. I don't listen to idiot clown sycophants - OR to guys like you.

I don't even know who tony atlas is...? lol

I can just read, we have generations of science that says cloth masks do nothing for viruses

We have no data to suggest semi quartines or lockdowns will do anything to stop the spread of a virus over any substantive length of time.

I could go on.

The only doctor in control of policy in the west is in Sweden. Where he didn't force masks or any substantive lock down because there is no evidence it does anything. The rest are jsut politicians worried about their political clout not science. THe science says unless your hospital beds are filled up there is no reason to think any of these other measures will do anything.

Wash your hands, cough into your arm, that's it. Same advice we've always given. if there was more to say we'd have all sorts of peer reviewed data to back up claims like cloth masks in anyway lower risk profile in any context from viral spread.

Doctors and scientists in appropriate fields are recommending 3 ply surgical masks, not cloth.
There's butt-tons of science now that backs them up, but you wouldn't likely be interested.



3 ply surgical masks are functionally cloth

They have no filter

Very porous

If doctors don't want to get or spread infection they have ways to do it. It involves a full body suit and 1 micron filters. If all this PPE was effective why aren't healthcare workers consonantly covered in it? Because there is no evidence very porous filters are protecting you from anything.

No evidence they ever did anything.
 
You know ventilators killed more people than covid at teh start, right?

Why don't we talk about them anymore? Because they shouldn't have been used lol
They're still using them stupid

It would be SO nice if you assholes knew what you were talking about

Not at anything nearing the rate they were

They were throwing everyone on ventilators

Even young kids

Don't you remember the stories about italy running out of them? Yea that's because they were using way too many. We still have shortages world wide if that was the proper treatment path.

When all 95%+ of these people needed was a steroid and to be sent home.

Per usual, you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. Yes, vents were overused in the very beginning. Seems pretty normal that medical professionals have learned a lot about treatment of a novel virus. No, a shot of steroids is not a cure. Jesus :rolleyes-41:


Literally old man priest giving up his ventilator to a boy who no doubt would have been better off without one.

And more than likely the ventilator killed the priest too because your lungs don't work very well after a short time on them.

Which is also the cause of all this concern. Without high ventilator use hospital beds will never fill up. This whole mess was all predicated on throwing ventilators on everyone.

I'm related to a handful of ivy league educated doctors.....What I'm relaying to you is fact. I know how these people do things. They do not know what the fuck is going on most of the time unless there is good science backing their view. And there is no good science on the rona. They do not teach you critical thinking in med school. Doctors don't even get better health outcomes than just regular people in a free market health care system. That should tell you all you need to know about their expertise

You are getting your COVID news from quacks like Tony Atlas who is a fucking RADIOLOGIST who hasn't practiced medicine in 10 years. I don't listen to idiot clown sycophants - OR to guys like you.

I don't even know who tony atlas is...? lol

I can just read, we have generations of science that says cloth masks do nothing for viruses

We have no data to suggest semi quartines or lockdowns will do anything to stop the spread of a virus over any substantive length of time.

I could go on.

The only doctor in control of policy in the west is in Sweden. Where he didn't force masks or any substantive lock down because there is no evidence it does anything. The rest are jsut politicians worried about their political clout not science. THe science says unless your hospital beds are filled up there is no reason to think any of these other measures will do anything.

Wash your hands, cough into your arm, that's it. Same advice we've always given. if there was more to say we'd have all sorts of peer reviewed data to back up claims like cloth masks in anyway lower risk profile in any context from viral spread.

Doctors and scientists in appropriate fields are recommending 3 ply surgical masks, not cloth.
There's butt-tons of science now that backs them up, but you wouldn't likely be interested.


Keep breathing back your own CO2 and infected air what could be healthier???
 
You know ventilators killed more people than covid at teh start, right?

Why don't we talk about them anymore? Because they shouldn't have been used lol
They're still using them stupid

It would be SO nice if you assholes knew what you were talking about

Not at anything nearing the rate they were

They were throwing everyone on ventilators

Even young kids

Don't you remember the stories about italy running out of them? Yea that's because they were using way too many. We still have shortages world wide if that was the proper treatment path.

When all 95%+ of these people needed was a steroid and to be sent home.

Per usual, you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. Yes, vents were overused in the very beginning. Seems pretty normal that medical professionals have learned a lot about treatment of a novel virus. No, a shot of steroids is not a cure. Jesus :rolleyes-41:


Literally old man priest giving up his ventilator to a boy who no doubt would have been better off without one.

And more than likely the ventilator killed the priest too because your lungs don't work very well after a short time on them.

Which is also the cause of all this concern. Without high ventilator use hospital beds will never fill up. This whole mess was all predicated on throwing ventilators on everyone.

I'm related to a handful of ivy league educated doctors.....What I'm relaying to you is fact. I know how these people do things. They do not know what the fuck is going on most of the time unless there is good science backing their view. And there is no good science on the rona. They do not teach you critical thinking in med school. Doctors don't even get better health outcomes than just regular people in a free market health care system. That should tell you all you need to know about their expertise

You are getting your COVID news from quacks like Tony Atlas who is a fucking RADIOLOGIST who hasn't practiced medicine in 10 years. I don't listen to idiot clown sycophants - OR to guys like you.

I don't even know who tony atlas is...? lol

I can just read, we have generations of science that says cloth masks do nothing for viruses

We have no data to suggest semi quartines or lockdowns will do anything to stop the spread of a virus over any substantive length of time.

I could go on.

The only doctor in control of policy in the west is in Sweden. Where he didn't force masks or any substantive lock down because there is no evidence it does anything. The rest are jsut politicians worried about their political clout not science. THe science says unless your hospital beds are filled up there is no reason to think any of these other measures will do anything.

Wash your hands, cough into your arm, that's it. Same advice we've always given. if there was more to say we'd have all sorts of peer reviewed data to back up claims like cloth masks in anyway lower risk profile in any context from viral spread.

Doctors and scientists in appropriate fields are recommending 3 ply surgical masks, not cloth.
There's butt-tons of science now that backs them up, but you wouldn't likely be interested.



3 ply surgical masks are functionally cloth

They have no filter

Very porous

If doctors don't want to get or spread infection they have ways to do it. It involves a full body suit and 1 micron filters. If all this PPE was effective why aren't healthcare workers consonantly covered in it? Because there is no evidence very porous filters are protecting you from anything.

No evidence they ever did anything.


Didn't watch a damn 3 minute video huh? Figures :rolleyes-41:
 
You know ventilators killed more people than covid at teh start, right?

Why don't we talk about them anymore? Because they shouldn't have been used lol
They're still using them stupid

It would be SO nice if you assholes knew what you were talking about

Not at anything nearing the rate they were

They were throwing everyone on ventilators

Even young kids

Don't you remember the stories about italy running out of them? Yea that's because they were using way too many. We still have shortages world wide if that was the proper treatment path.

When all 95%+ of these people needed was a steroid and to be sent home.

Per usual, you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. Yes, vents were overused in the very beginning. Seems pretty normal that medical professionals have learned a lot about treatment of a novel virus. No, a shot of steroids is not a cure. Jesus :rolleyes-41:


Literally old man priest giving up his ventilator to a boy who no doubt would have been better off without one.

And more than likely the ventilator killed the priest too because your lungs don't work very well after a short time on them.

Which is also the cause of all this concern. Without high ventilator use hospital beds will never fill up. This whole mess was all predicated on throwing ventilators on everyone.

I'm related to a handful of ivy league educated doctors.....What I'm relaying to you is fact. I know how these people do things. They do not know what the fuck is going on most of the time unless there is good science backing their view. And there is no good science on the rona. They do not teach you critical thinking in med school. Doctors don't even get better health outcomes than just regular people in a free market health care system. That should tell you all you need to know about their expertise

You are getting your COVID news from quacks like Tony Atlas who is a fucking RADIOLOGIST who hasn't practiced medicine in 10 years. I don't listen to idiot clown sycophants - OR to guys like you.

I don't even know who tony atlas is...? lol

I can just read, we have generations of science that says cloth masks do nothing for viruses

We have no data to suggest semi quartines or lockdowns will do anything to stop the spread of a virus over any substantive length of time.

I could go on.

The only doctor in control of policy in the west is in Sweden. Where he didn't force masks or any substantive lock down because there is no evidence it does anything. The rest are jsut politicians worried about their political clout not science. THe science says unless your hospital beds are filled up there is no reason to think any of these other measures will do anything.

Wash your hands, cough into your arm, that's it. Same advice we've always given. if there was more to say we'd have all sorts of peer reviewed data to back up claims like cloth masks in anyway lower risk profile in any context from viral spread.

Doctors and scientists in appropriate fields are recommending 3 ply surgical masks, not cloth.
There's butt-tons of science now that backs them up, but you wouldn't likely be interested.



3 ply surgical masks are functionally cloth

They have no filter

Very porous

If doctors don't want to get or spread infection they have ways to do it. It involves a full body suit and 1 micron filters. If all this PPE was effective why aren't healthcare workers consonantly covered in it? Because there is no evidence very porous filters are protecting you from anything.

No evidence they ever did anything.


Didn't watch a damn 3 minute video huh? Figures :rolleyes-41:


Why would i watch your video?

Link me to the peer reviewed science published in a medical journal that says any of this works?

I have seen a little bit of an attempt in 2020, with the "study" being shredded under peer review. Because you can't conduct a proper study in 2020 in the states because of all the lockdowns. It's fucking psuedoscience. The only defense of the article was fear based around how these are trying times and standards need to change (why they need to change isn't clear beyond 2020 has some how upended the rules of medical science)

If what you were saying was true. We'd have known it in 2019 and things like masks wouldn't have been a question. There is no evidence to believe all of this is anything but security theatre. The plastic clear fask shields are garunteed more effective than those cloth masks, and htey don't leave you vulnerable to lung infection. But people don't like them because it's an honest measure. Just stops you from spitting on people that's it. Same as a cloth mask

That's just how western medicine works. YOu have to prove it's effective before you implement something. No one has ever proven to any workable standard this is a good idea. If you're linking studies done in 2020 you've already lost, you can't do a proper study of cloth masks with these lockdowns. There should be study after study confirming masks reduce spread of respiratory related viruses well before corona, there are not.
 
The idiots on this board are no different than the morons in South Dakota screaming at nurses that Covid is a hoax...right up until the intubation tube goes down their throats

Intubation becomes necessary only when the immune system start freaking out and attacking the lungs, with the "cytokine storm" filling the lungs with fluid.
That is not being done by the covid-19 virus.
And it can be prevented by immuno suppressants.

Do the math.
With only 225,000 dead out of 330,000,000, that is inly 0.06% mortality rate.
So then while we could and should end this epidemic, it really is a hoax.
 
The idiots on this board are no different than the morons in South Dakota screaming at nurses that Covid is a hoax...right up until the intubation tube goes down their throats

Thats ok, you claim Hunter Bidens laptop is a hoax.

I encourage cowardly faggots to wear masks. There should be no law to make me wear a piece of cloth on my face.

Look at Joe wearing a mask. Do tell me what is wrong with this BULLSHIT VIRTUE SIGNALLING? Not covering his nose and removing his mask to cough into his hand. Can you explain to me what good this does?

 
You know ventilators killed more people than covid at teh start, right?

Why don't we talk about them anymore? Because they shouldn't have been used lol
They're still using them stupid

It would be SO nice if you assholes knew what you were talking about

Not at anything nearing the rate they were

They were throwing everyone on ventilators

Even young kids

Don't you remember the stories about italy running out of them? Yea that's because they were using way too many. We still have shortages world wide if that was the proper treatment path.

When all 95%+ of these people needed was a steroid and to be sent home.

Correct.
To prevent gage reflex, they were inducing comas before intubation, and that prevented lung drainage.
What Russia and Italy did instead was to move patient sleeping position to face down, on their side, elevated, etc., to help lungs drain.
Then intubation not necessary.
 
You know ventilators killed more people than covid at teh start, right?

Why don't we talk about them anymore? Because they shouldn't have been used lol
They're still using them stupid

It would be SO nice if you assholes knew what you were talking about

Not at anything nearing the rate they were

They were throwing everyone on ventilators

Even young kids

Don't you remember the stories about italy running out of them? Yea that's because they were using way too many. We still have shortages world wide if that was the proper treatment path.

When all 95%+ of these people needed was a steroid and to be sent home.

Per usual, you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. Yes, vents were overused in the very beginning. Seems pretty normal that medical professionals have learned a lot about treatment of a novel virus. No, a shot of steroids is not a cure. Jesus :rolleyes-41:


Literally old man priest giving up his ventilator to a boy who no doubt would have been better off without one.

And more than likely the ventilator killed the priest too because your lungs don't work very well after a short time on them.

Which is also the cause of all this concern. Without high ventilator use hospital beds will never fill up. This whole mess was all predicated on throwing ventilators on everyone.

I'm related to a handful of ivy league educated doctors.....What I'm relaying to you is fact. I know how these people do things. They do not know what the fuck is going on most of the time unless there is good science backing their view. And there is no good science on the rona. They do not teach you critical thinking in med school. Doctors don't even get better health outcomes than just regular people in a free market health care system. That should tell you all you need to know about their expertise

You are getting your COVID news from quacks like Tony Atlas who is a fucking RADIOLOGIST who hasn't practiced medicine in 10 years. I don't listen to idiot clown Rump sycophants - OR to guys like you.

No, intubation is NOT at all a good idea, ever.
It should only be done to people already near death, in a coma.
Instead they are chemically inducing a coma in order to intubate, and that essentially is murder.
Instead, is you keep the person conscious, they can move to help lung drainage.
And you can use immuno suppressants to stop the cytokine storm that is filling the lungs with fluid.
 
The idiots on this board are no different than the morons in South Dakota screaming at nurses that Covid is a hoax...right up until the intubation tube goes down their throats

You know ventilators killed more people than covid at teh start, right?

Why don't we talk about them anymore? Because they shouldn't have been used lol

I read a story about a poor woman they kept her on one for two fucking months, she needs a double lung transplant now. They blamed it on covid, it wasn't covid. It was teh fucking ventilator

Do not go on a ventilator people, you are not likely to wake up. Ask for steroids like prednisone
You only have a 50-50 chance of surviving when you go on a ventilator, no mater the context.

True story.
What's the chance for a person to survive in a ventilator when the doctor recommends that you go on a ventilator?
Aha!
 
You know ventilators killed more people than covid at teh start, right?

Why don't we talk about them anymore? Because they shouldn't have been used lol
They're still using them stupid

It would be SO nice if you assholes knew what you were talking about

Not at anything nearing the rate they were

They were throwing everyone on ventilators

Even young kids

Don't you remember the stories about italy running out of them? Yea that's because they were using way too many. We still have shortages world wide if that was the proper treatment path.

When all 95%+ of these people needed was a steroid and to be sent home.

Correct.
To prevent gage reflex, they were inducing comas before intubation, and that prevented lung drainage.
What Russia and Italy did instead was to move patient sleeping position to face down, on their side, elevated, etc., to help lungs drain.
Then intubation not necessary.
You made up the claim that Italy doesn't use ventilators. Here's s recent article
 
The worsening virus requires mask mandates. Leaders such as Reynolds and Joe Biden get this:
Appreciation for Nazi Joe and the DemNazi Party's upcoming National Martial Law Lockdown and Nazi Mask Mandate. Joe is as illegitimate in 2020 and Hitler was in 1933.
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"A Dark Winter is coming! We must make lists of our enemies, round them up and put them in re-education camps!"

Joe Biden
Now cons are calling the Iowa Republican governor of a red state a Nazi.
 
The worsening virus requires mask mandates. Leaders such as Reynolds and Joe Biden get this:
I thought Covid was done after the election? :dunno:
When biden is declared it will be. If Trump is declared it will get worse.
 
The only doctor in control of policy in the west is in Sweden.

Sweden has been a fucking disaster
I get my Covid news from Worldometers, and it shows that Gestapo facediaper states have the highest mortality rates.
It would be nice if you looked at the CHARTS on worldometers idiot. It would show you that states like NY and NJ had the vast bulk of infections and death in April May and June and that after they went to what you call "face diapers" (you stupid fuck) the infections and deaths dropped off precipitously

States like Florida and Texas that did NOT...had huge infection rates and death throughout the summer and even worse now
 

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