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Sadly anti-Semitism was accepted by many Christians in the last century. I was also told that Jews will not be saved when I was in High School.I did, upthread.
But if you’re indifferent, you’re really not my “target audience.” I’ve had to endure years of VERY insistent lectures as to why Jesus was the Messiah and how Jews like me are going to hell, and when I’ve tried to tell them why Jews don’t believe in Jesus, they put their palm up and say they don’t want to hear it. (I, however, am supposed to hear THEM.)
I am proud of my great-grandparents who worked to build Soviet Russia in 1917 -- 1920s. They worked to build a Free Society based on Positive Rights. The property of formerly rich people was confiscated.Jewish people take civil rights seriously IMO.
Why is that and where does it say that?If you read your Tanach you would know Jews are not allowed to proselytyze.
When did they leave their homeland, and when did they return to it?It took 2520 years for the Jews to return to their land as prophesied.
Good question. Not allowed to proselytize? That's just counter-productive. Self-defeating.Why is that and where does it say that?
They don't, not based on the Scriptures (that they accept). Their reasoning can be found hereGood question. Not allowed to proselytize? That's just counter-productive. Self-defeating.
Israel was to be the light of the nations (Is 49:6). But for a few, they failed in that mission.
Oh, so non-Jews reap the same rewards that Jews reap. Groovy. Let's just go on being non-Jews, then. I mean, what's the difference?They don't, not based on the Scriptures (that they accept). Their reasoning can be found here
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It doesn't matter to me what anyone else believes.Oh, so non-Jews reap the same rewards that Jews reap. Groovy. Let's just go on being non-Jews, then. I mean, what's the difference?
It is from Deuteronomy where we are told to allow law abiding non-Jews to dwell amongst us and not to try and convert them.Why is that and where does it say that?
I am proud of my great-grandparents who worked to build Soviet Russia in 1917 -- 1920s. They worked to build a Free Society based on Positive Rights. The property of formerly rich people was confiscated.
Sadly, in late 1930s, Jews were pushed out of power and Totalitarian Socialism emerged.
At any rate, the Law did not prohibit proselytizing.It doesn't matter to me what anyone else believes.
Unlike the OP, I really don't concern myself if someone who doesn't share my faith think I'm going to hell or heaven or any place else. It just doesn't matter to me
At any rate, the Law did not prohibit proselytizing.
Israel failed in her imperative to proselytize, but a few outsiders did join, such as the Queen of Adiabene and others as recorded in Esther 8:17 and recalled in Hebrews 11. Abraham would multiply, but Israel was never solely of Abraham's seed. Except for the twelve sons, virtually all of Abraham's children would have joined the family through marriage.
Jesus said at least some of the Pharisees did go out to win converts but He said they made their converts even worse than themselves.At any rate, the Law did not prohibit proselytizing.
Israel failed in her imperative to proselytize, but a few outsiders did join, such as the Queen of Adiabene and others as recorded in Esther 8:17 and recalled in Hebrews 11. Abraham would multiply, but Israel was never solely of Abraham's seed. Except for the twelve sons, virtually all of Abraham's children would have joined the family through marriage.
And the Jews today are basically ONE of those tribes, not the full 12.but Israel was never solely of Abraham's seed. Except for the twelve sons
Both history and the Scriptures attest to conversion to Judaism. And both attest to the slow, almost stagnant rate at which people converted.A lot of Berbers converted.. they had a Jewish warrior queen named Kahina.
Forced conversions in Yemen caused the burnings of the Najran Christians.
There was also the forced conversions of the Edomites.
Jesus COMMANDED His disciples to go outBoth history and the Scriptures attest to conversion to Judaism. And both attest to the slow, almost stagnant rate at which people converted.
Quite in contrast to the tremendous missionary impulses of the Christians.
What the heck are you talking about?At any rate, the Law did not prohibit proselytizing.
Israel failed in her imperative to proselytize, but a few outsiders did join, such as the Queen of Adiabene and others as recorded in Esther 8:17 and recalled in Hebrews 11. Abraham would multiply, but Israel was never solely of Abraham's seed. Except for the twelve sons, virtually all of Abraham's children would have joined the family through marriage.
Grin. I will definitely be here! But no rush. If you and the Batmobile are on another mission, the next convenient time will work, too.Check back here tomorrow, same Bat Time, same Bat Channel! (yes, I’m a child of 60’s TV.)
Exactly. Judaism allows a path to Heaven for people of ALL religions. Christians think their way is the only way and everyone else goes to hell. Very arrogant - and leads to antisemitism.Sadly anti-Semitism was accepted by many Christians in the last century. I was also told that Jews will not be saved when I was in High School.
Judaism does not view Christians and Muslims as sinners -- if they keep the Seven Laws of Noah.
I'm Ok with you - or anyone else for the matter - believing whatever they want.1) As Surada said, Jesus did not fulfill the Messianic prophesis:
a) All Jews will be gathered in Israel - hasn’t happened yet
b) The Messiah will build (or accomplish) the 3rd Temple - nope, still waiting
c) There will be worldwide peace: “Nation shall not lift up sword against nation; neither shall man learn war anymore.” (From Isiah)
2) Jesus did not fulfill the personal attributes of the Messiah:
As Jews do not believe in Demi-gods or any Supreme Being other than the one and only G-d, the Messiah will be born of human parents - with a father descended from David. Since Christians say Jesus’ father was G-d, a concept foreign to Judaism, he of course does not fulfill this.
3) The Messiah will obey the Law, and lead the people to full Torah observance - as all commandments are binding forever. Jesus did not do this, and changed the law. He told Jews that kashrut was no longer necessary, and he violated the Sabbath.
4) Christians have mistranslated the “Suffering Servant” alluded to in the OT as Jesus, when it refers to Israel.
There’s more, but this is a start.
NOTE: I would like to have a respectful debate, and remind posters that this is Zone 1. Thank you.
