Are Atheists Delusional?

not true,,,the flood would have caused a multi layer scenario where the lowest forms like fish would be buried the lowest with amphibians being above them due to mobility followed by reptiles that couldnt move so fast and followed by mammals because they most likely could have avoided the rising water for a time until they ran out of land

again get a bottle and some sand and soil add water and observe

No. In a flood the heaviest things settle first.


who said settled???

I said buried,,and the first to get buried would have been the lowest and deadest,,,the bigger ones could have avoided the flood waters for a time by moving to higher ground,,which also explains the fossil grave yards

Dead animals typically float. But heavier items settle first. Meaning the silt would cover them first.

You have no evidence to suggest it was one flood instead of numerous localized floods.


a fossil requires it be buried , so what floats on top is irrelevant

and the heavier ones dont get buried if they go to higher ground to avoid getting buried early on, where as the smaller ones cant run as fast and get caught up in the first deluge of flooding,,,the fish even sooner,,might explain why they are on the bottom

and you have no proof it was several floods, and based on the link for coal posted earlier the majority of land was flat swampy areas and that would make it tough for a localized flood



remember it took months for it to happen

The fish would be less effected by flooding. Small reptiles and amphibians would be more likely to ride out the flood on debris. Larger animals might move faster, if there was someplace to move to. The flooding would not be even, but would follow the contours of the ground.

And, per the link posted before, higher ground might not have existed.


not if they got buried, which is better than the evo argument where they say the fish somehow got out of the water and got buried over millions of yrs

it would follow the contour for a short time until the water rose above the highest point
 
The bible tells us that we were created in god's image, which begs the question: Does god have a penis, belly button, and nipples? Why?
Was he transracial? Obviously, according to some, things dont evolve. Like melatonin

Neanderthals existed prior to modern man, so, god created Neanderthals in his own image. That, being the case, could explain why we have not heard from god in so long. Maybe he is extinct.
there is no proof of that

Once again, you require proof but offer none.
as have you,,,but my claim is opinion where yours is taught as fact using tax payer money
 
No. In a flood the heaviest things settle first.


who said settled???

I said buried,,and the first to get buried would have been the lowest and deadest,,,the bigger ones could have avoided the flood waters for a time by moving to higher ground,,which also explains the fossil grave yards

Dead animals typically float. But heavier items settle first. Meaning the silt would cover them first.

You have no evidence to suggest it was one flood instead of numerous localized floods.


a fossil requires it be buried , so what floats on top is irrelevant

and the heavier ones dont get buried if they go to higher ground to avoid getting buried early on, where as the smaller ones cant run as fast and get caught up in the first deluge of flooding,,,the fish even sooner,,might explain why they are on the bottom

and you have no proof it was several floods, and based on the link for coal posted earlier the majority of land was flat swampy areas and that would make it tough for a localized flood



remember it took months for it to happen

The fish would be less effected by flooding. Small reptiles and amphibians would be more likely to ride out the flood on debris. Larger animals might move faster, if there was someplace to move to. The flooding would not be even, but would follow the contours of the ground.

And, per the link posted before, higher ground might not have existed.


not if they got buried, which is better than the evo argument where they say the fish somehow got out of the water and got buried over millions of yrs

it would follow the contour for a short time until the water rose above the highest point

You pointed out that the coal link stated it was flat swampy land. Not much high ground to run too.

And swamps don't make localized flooding tougher. Add enough water and there is no land to stand on.
 
The bible tells us that we were created in god's image, which begs the question: Does god have a penis, belly button, and nipples? Why?
Was he transracial? Obviously, according to some, things dont evolve. Like melatonin

Neanderthals existed prior to modern man, so, god created Neanderthals in his own image. That, being the case, could explain why we have not heard from god in so long. Maybe he is extinct.
there is no proof of that

Once again, you require proof but offer none.
as have you,,,but my claim is opinion where yours is taught as fact using tax payer money

The word "theory" is in every science or biology text book. And it is, hands down, the best scientific explanation for the diversity of species. If you want to teach creationism, open a private school. Public schools are bound by the 1st amendment.
 
First, they have taken over secular science and systematically eliminated God as creator and origin of the universe and everything in it. They claim that all of it happened naturally when space and time cannot start by itself. They believe in false science and are delusional, but have convinced others to follow their thinking and path. Yet, they cannot explain how spacetime, the universe, Earth and life started without contradictions. They think DNA popped up by itself. They think the universe popped up from invisible particles. They can't explain Earth's habitability, so think multiverses exist so Earth is mediocre and not special. They claim "mountains of evidence" and their science is fact when we can't see it, test it nor falsify it. You might know some people on this board that fits this description. They want evidence of the truth and when they get it, they deny it or do not believe it. They end believing in false teachers like Neil DeGrasse Tyson or Bill Nye. How far should their delusions be allowed?


God did it explains nothing.

Most of the things you say we claim we do not. We admit we don’t know. You claim to know. We only pontificate
 
Was he transracial? Obviously, according to some, things dont evolve. Like melatonin

Neanderthals existed prior to modern man, so, god created Neanderthals in his own image. That, being the case, could explain why we have not heard from god in so long. Maybe he is extinct.
there is no proof of that

Once again, you require proof but offer none.
as have you,,,but my claim is opinion where yours is taught as fact using tax payer money

The word "theory" is in every science or biology text book. And it is, hands down, the best scientific explanation for the diversity of species. If you want to teach creationism, open a private school. Public schools are bound by the 1st amendment.
no its not,,,as I have proven endlessly today

but that doesnt mean they can teach outright lies
 
who said settled???

I said buried,,and the first to get buried would have been the lowest and deadest,,,the bigger ones could have avoided the flood waters for a time by moving to higher ground,,which also explains the fossil grave yards

Dead animals typically float. But heavier items settle first. Meaning the silt would cover them first.

You have no evidence to suggest it was one flood instead of numerous localized floods.


a fossil requires it be buried , so what floats on top is irrelevant

and the heavier ones dont get buried if they go to higher ground to avoid getting buried early on, where as the smaller ones cant run as fast and get caught up in the first deluge of flooding,,,the fish even sooner,,might explain why they are on the bottom

and you have no proof it was several floods, and based on the link for coal posted earlier the majority of land was flat swampy areas and that would make it tough for a localized flood



remember it took months for it to happen

The fish would be less effected by flooding. Small reptiles and amphibians would be more likely to ride out the flood on debris. Larger animals might move faster, if there was someplace to move to. The flooding would not be even, but would follow the contours of the ground.

And, per the link posted before, higher ground might not have existed.


not if they got buried, which is better than the evo argument where they say the fish somehow got out of the water and got buried over millions of yrs

it would follow the contour for a short time until the water rose above the highest point

You pointed out that the coal link stated it was flat swampy land. Not much high ground to run too.

And swamps don't make localized flooding tougher. Add enough water and there is no land to stand on.
you do know you just proved my point dont you??
 
First, they have taken over secular science and systematically eliminated God as creator and origin of the universe and everything in it. They claim that all of it happened naturally when space and time cannot start by itself. They believe in false science and are delusional, but have convinced others to follow their thinking and path. Yet, they cannot explain how spacetime, the universe, Earth and life started without contradictions. They think DNA popped up by itself. They think the universe popped up from invisible particles. They can't explain Earth's habitability, so think multiverses exist so Earth is mediocre and not special. They claim "mountains of evidence" and their science is fact when we can't see it, test it nor falsify it. You might know some people on this board that fits this description. They want evidence of the truth and when they get it, they deny it or do not believe it. They end believing in false teachers like Neil DeGrasse Tyson or Bill Nye. How far should their delusions be allowed?

First of all, atheists nor scientists have eliminated God from anything. They may have eliminated the nonsensical stories that you enjoy. But God, if he exists, could be the architect of the Big Bang just as easily as that story in Genesis. It is YOU who have limited God to what you WANT him to be.


But as for the title of this thread......

One group explores our world using scientific methods and puts together the best theories based on that work (and the work of others).

One group believes an invisible being is responsible for everything, despite having no physical evidence of the beings existence. This group complains that the other group is ruining their all powerful being by using the scientific methods. Not because they disprove God. But because the spoil the stories of an old, oft edited & translated book, that is based on stories handed down generation after generation by a semi-nomadic tribe of herders.

And you think the scientists are the delusional ones? lol Okey Dokey.
Very well put.
 
Neanderthals existed prior to modern man, so, god created Neanderthals in his own image. That, being the case, could explain why we have not heard from god in so long. Maybe he is extinct.
there is no proof of that

Once again, you require proof but offer none.
as have you,,,but my claim is opinion where yours is taught as fact using tax payer money

The word "theory" is in every science or biology text book. And it is, hands down, the best scientific explanation for the diversity of species. If you want to teach creationism, open a private school. Public schools are bound by the 1st amendment.
no its not,,,as I have proven endlessly today

but that doesnt mean they can teach outright lies

They are not teaching outright lies.
 
First, they have taken over secular science and systematically eliminated God as creator and origin of the universe and everything in it. They claim that all of it happened naturally when space and time cannot start by itself. They believe in false science and are delusional, but have convinced others to follow their thinking and path. Yet, they cannot explain how spacetime, the universe, Earth and life started without contradictions. They think DNA popped up by itself. They think the universe popped up from invisible particles. They can't explain Earth's habitability, so think multiverses exist so Earth is mediocre and not special. They claim "mountains of evidence" and their science is fact when we can't see it, test it nor falsify it. You might know some people on this board that fits this description. They want evidence of the truth and when they get it, they deny it or do not believe it. They end believing in false teachers like Neil DeGrasse Tyson or Bill Nye. How far should their delusions be allowed?



First, they have taken over secular science and systematically eliminated God as creator and origin of the universe and everything in it. They claim that all of it happened naturally when space and time cannot start by itself. They believe in false science and are delusional, but have convinced others to follow their thinking and path. Yet, they cannot explain how spacetime, the universe, Earth and life started without contradictions. They think DNA popped up by itself. They think the universe popped up from invisible particles. They can't explain Earth's habitability, so think multiverses exist so Earth is mediocre and not special. They claim "mountains of evidence" and their science is fact when we can't see it, test it nor falsify it. You might know some people on this board that fits this description. They want evidence of the truth and when they get it, they deny it or do not believe it. They end believing in false teachers like Neil DeGrasse Tyson or Bill Nye. How far should their delusions be allowed?



When the radical American Left removes God from the minds of the young, along with all ancient foundations or Right and Wrong, they can replace that "God space" with anything they choose, up to and including the belief its normal and fine to murder children.


How, exactly, do they remove God from the minds of the young?

by lying to them and say man was created by the primordial soup


So, as a parent, you have 5 years before they start school, then you are there as they go through school, but “they” remove God from your children? Lol. Ok.

They should teach there kids not everybody believes in god but that makes the brainwashing harder. Not impossible but tougher.
 
Dead animals typically float. But heavier items settle first. Meaning the silt would cover them first.

You have no evidence to suggest it was one flood instead of numerous localized floods.


a fossil requires it be buried , so what floats on top is irrelevant

and the heavier ones dont get buried if they go to higher ground to avoid getting buried early on, where as the smaller ones cant run as fast and get caught up in the first deluge of flooding,,,the fish even sooner,,might explain why they are on the bottom

and you have no proof it was several floods, and based on the link for coal posted earlier the majority of land was flat swampy areas and that would make it tough for a localized flood



remember it took months for it to happen

The fish would be less effected by flooding. Small reptiles and amphibians would be more likely to ride out the flood on debris. Larger animals might move faster, if there was someplace to move to. The flooding would not be even, but would follow the contours of the ground.

And, per the link posted before, higher ground might not have existed.


not if they got buried, which is better than the evo argument where they say the fish somehow got out of the water and got buried over millions of yrs

it would follow the contour for a short time until the water rose above the highest point

You pointed out that the coal link stated it was flat swampy land. Not much high ground to run too.

And swamps don't make localized flooding tougher. Add enough water and there is no land to stand on.
you do know you just proved my point dont you??

If your point was that localized flooding is a perfectly good explanation, I did.

If your point was that larger land animals would have been just as vulnerable, I did.

If your point was to counter your own comment that swamps flood just as easily, I did.

Other than that, not so much.
 
there is no proof of that

Once again, you require proof but offer none.
as have you,,,but my claim is opinion where yours is taught as fact using tax payer money

The word "theory" is in every science or biology text book. And it is, hands down, the best scientific explanation for the diversity of species. If you want to teach creationism, open a private school. Public schools are bound by the 1st amendment.
no its not,,,as I have proven endlessly today

but that doesnt mean they can teach outright lies

They are not teaching outright lies.
I posted them,,,
 
First, they have taken over secular science and systematically eliminated God as creator and origin of the universe and everything in it. They claim that all of it happened naturally when space and time cannot start by itself. They believe in false science and are delusional, but have convinced others to follow their thinking and path. Yet, they cannot explain how spacetime, the universe, Earth and life started without contradictions. They think DNA popped up by itself. They think the universe popped up from invisible particles. They can't explain Earth's habitability, so think multiverses exist so Earth is mediocre and not special. They claim "mountains of evidence" and their science is fact when we can't see it, test it nor falsify it. You might know some people on this board that fits this description. They want evidence of the truth and when they get it, they deny it or do not believe it. They end believing in false teachers like Neil DeGrasse Tyson or Bill Nye. How far should their delusions be allowed?



First, they have taken over secular science and systematically eliminated God as creator and origin of the universe and everything in it. They claim that all of it happened naturally when space and time cannot start by itself. They believe in false science and are delusional, but have convinced others to follow their thinking and path. Yet, they cannot explain how spacetime, the universe, Earth and life started without contradictions. They think DNA popped up by itself. They think the universe popped up from invisible particles. They can't explain Earth's habitability, so think multiverses exist so Earth is mediocre and not special. They claim "mountains of evidence" and their science is fact when we can't see it, test it nor falsify it. You might know some people on this board that fits this description. They want evidence of the truth and when they get it, they deny it or do not believe it. They end believing in false teachers like Neil DeGrasse Tyson or Bill Nye. How far should their delusions be allowed?



When the radical American Left removes God from the minds of the young, along with all ancient foundations or Right and Wrong, they can replace that "God space" with anything they choose, up to and including the belief its normal and fine to murder children.


How, exactly, do they remove God from the minds of the young?

by lying to them and say man was created by the primordial soup


So, as a parent, you have 5 years before they start school, then you are there as they go through school, but “they” remove God from your children? Lol. Ok.



sorry we depended on them to teach our children reading and writing while we worked to feed them,,,

but we werent talking about the parents, we are talking about the education system


alinsky 101 teachs if you cant refute the message attack the messenger,,,

So you are too poor to send them to private school?

Imagine if you couldn’t afford private healthcare for your kids but there was a public option.

You sound like a socialist who’s complaining about your free handout.
 
a fossil requires it be buried , so what floats on top is irrelevant

and the heavier ones dont get buried if they go to higher ground to avoid getting buried early on, where as the smaller ones cant run as fast and get caught up in the first deluge of flooding,,,the fish even sooner,,might explain why they are on the bottom

and you have no proof it was several floods, and based on the link for coal posted earlier the majority of land was flat swampy areas and that would make it tough for a localized flood



remember it took months for it to happen

The fish would be less effected by flooding. Small reptiles and amphibians would be more likely to ride out the flood on debris. Larger animals might move faster, if there was someplace to move to. The flooding would not be even, but would follow the contours of the ground.

And, per the link posted before, higher ground might not have existed.


not if they got buried, which is better than the evo argument where they say the fish somehow got out of the water and got buried over millions of yrs

it would follow the contour for a short time until the water rose above the highest point

You pointed out that the coal link stated it was flat swampy land. Not much high ground to run too.

And swamps don't make localized flooding tougher. Add enough water and there is no land to stand on.
you do know you just proved my point dont you??

If your point was that localized flooding is a perfectly good explanation, I did.

If your point was that larger land animals would have been just as vulnerable, I did.

If your point was to counter your own comment that swamps flood just as easily, I did.

Other than that, not so much.
WHAT???
 
Once again, you require proof but offer none.
as have you,,,but my claim is opinion where yours is taught as fact using tax payer money

The word "theory" is in every science or biology text book. And it is, hands down, the best scientific explanation for the diversity of species. If you want to teach creationism, open a private school. Public schools are bound by the 1st amendment.
no its not,,,as I have proven endlessly today

but that doesnt mean they can teach outright lies

They are not teaching outright lies.
I posted them,,,

Lucy? Taking a partial skeleton and using what we know of human & animal anatomy to determine it is a new hominid? Not a lie.

Nebraska Man? The scientists didn't make the lies, the media and writers did.

The Grand Canyon? That is hilarious.


No, they are not teaching lies.
 
The fish would be less effected by flooding. Small reptiles and amphibians would be more likely to ride out the flood on debris. Larger animals might move faster, if there was someplace to move to. The flooding would not be even, but would follow the contours of the ground.

And, per the link posted before, higher ground might not have existed.


not if they got buried, which is better than the evo argument where they say the fish somehow got out of the water and got buried over millions of yrs

it would follow the contour for a short time until the water rose above the highest point

You pointed out that the coal link stated it was flat swampy land. Not much high ground to run too.

And swamps don't make localized flooding tougher. Add enough water and there is no land to stand on.
you do know you just proved my point dont you??

If your point was that localized flooding is a perfectly good explanation, I did.

If your point was that larger land animals would have been just as vulnerable, I did.

If your point was to counter your own comment that swamps flood just as easily, I did.

Other than that, not so much.
WHAT???

What point is it you think I proved?
 
Once again, you require proof but offer none.
as have you,,,but my claim is opinion where yours is taught as fact using tax payer money

The word "theory" is in every science or biology text book. And it is, hands down, the best scientific explanation for the diversity of species. If you want to teach creationism, open a private school. Public schools are bound by the 1st amendment.
no its not,,,as I have proven endlessly today

but that doesnt mean they can teach outright lies

They are not teaching outright lies.
I posted them,,,

One thing you neglected to mention when you talked about Lucy. There have been other Australopithecus skeletons found. Enough that there is more than a complete skeleton. And it has shown that the original suppositions made by Donaldson were accurate. The skeletons found later were pretty much what he said they would be. And the fossilized footprints found (of several Australopithecus) showed they walked upright in a very human fashion.
 
as have you,,,but my claim is opinion where yours is taught as fact using tax payer money

The word "theory" is in every science or biology text book. And it is, hands down, the best scientific explanation for the diversity of species. If you want to teach creationism, open a private school. Public schools are bound by the 1st amendment.
no its not,,,as I have proven endlessly today

but that doesnt mean they can teach outright lies

They are not teaching outright lies.
I posted them,,,

Lucy? Taking a partial skeleton and using what we know of human & animal anatomy to determine it is a new hominid? Not a lie.

Nebraska Man? The scientists didn't make the lies, the media and writers did.

The Grand Canyon? That is hilarious.


No, they are not teaching lies.


SORRY LUCY IS AS MAKE BELIEVE AS FRED FLINTSTONE..,,,

and how did the media create nebraska man??? that was done by scientist

and I didnt say the grand canyon was a lie,,,just a wrong asumption

and what about the gil slits??? the man that claimed it admitted he made it up??? that is still taught

and if you watch the video there are several others backed up by proof
 
as have you,,,but my claim is opinion where yours is taught as fact using tax payer money

The word "theory" is in every science or biology text book. And it is, hands down, the best scientific explanation for the diversity of species. If you want to teach creationism, open a private school. Public schools are bound by the 1st amendment.
no its not,,,as I have proven endlessly today

but that doesnt mean they can teach outright lies

They are not teaching outright lies.
I posted them,,,

One thing you neglected to mention when you talked about Lucy. There have been other Australopithecus skeletons found. Enough that there is more than a complete skeleton. And it has shown that the original suppositions made by Donaldson were accurate. The skeletons found later were pretty much what he said they would be. And the fossilized footprints found (of several Australopithecus) showed they walked upright in a very human fashion.


other monkeys walk upright,,,doesnt mean they or lucy gave birth to a human
 

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