Are Democrats smart enough ...

The Democratic Party is in a catch 22. The Presidents party generally loses during the midterms. That leaves two years for the party to convince the voters to buck the trend.

If they pass too little legislation, they will be painted as feckless and lose the party majority.

If they jettison the filibuster and pass as much legislation as they can, they will be painted as imperious and still lose the majority.

Just my opinion here, but the latter seems to be the better option. If the electorate agrees with the legislation passed, it increases the odds of staying in power.

The Democrats need to remember that Biden only barely won against the worst President in history. And, without Trump's #StopTheSqueal shitshow, they probably wouldn't have control of the Senate. They have nothing at all like a "mandate", and if they pretend they do, they will pay the price.
 
The Democratic Party is in a catch 22. The Presidents party generally loses during the midterms. That leaves two years for the party to convince the voters to buck the trend.

If they pass too little legislation, they will be painted as feckless and lose the party majority.

If they jettison the filibuster and pass as much legislation as they can, they will be painted as imperious and still lose the majority.

Just my opinion here, but the latter seems to be the better option. If the electorate agrees with the legislation passed, it increases the odds of staying in power.

The Democrats need to remember that Biden only barely won against the worst President in history. And, without Trump's #StopTheSqueal shitshow, they probably wouldn't have control of the Senate. They have nothing at all like a "mandate", and if they pretend they do, they will pay the price.

Agreed in principle.

That being said, how does the Democratic Party avoid being painted as weak, if too few bills get passed in Congress?
 
The Democratic Party is in a catch 22. The Presidents party generally loses during the midterms. That leaves two years for the party to convince the voters to buck the trend.

If they pass too little legislation, they will be painted as feckless and lose the party majority.

If they jettison the filibuster and pass as much legislation as they can, they will be painted as imperious and still lose the majority.

Just my opinion here, but the latter seems to be the better option. If the electorate agrees with the legislation passed, it increases the odds of staying in power.

The Democrats need to remember that Biden only barely won against the worst President in history. And, without Trump's #StopTheSqueal shitshow, they probably wouldn't have control of the Senate. They have nothing at all like a "mandate", and if they pretend they do, they will pay the price.

Agreed in principle.

That being said, how does the Democratic Party avoid being painted as weak, if too few bills get passed in Congress?

Who gives a shit if they're "painted as weak"? Why does it matter now many bills the ram through Congress? I'd rather have thoughtful, moderate leadership. We just kicked out a bully.
 
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The Democratic Party is in a catch 22. The Presidents party generally loses during the midterms. That leaves two years for the party to convince the voters to buck the trend.

If they pass too little legislation, they will be painted as feckless and lose the party majority.

If they jettison the filibuster and pass as much legislation as they can, they will be painted as imperious and still lose the majority.

Just my opinion here, but the latter seems to be the better option. If the electorate agrees with the legislation passed, it increases the odds of staying in power.

The Democrats need to remember that Biden only barely won against the worst President in history. And, without Trump's #StopTheSqueal shitshow, they probably wouldn't have control of the Senate. They have nothing at all like a "mandate", and if they pretend they do, they will pay the price.

Agreed in principle.

That being said, how does the Democratic Party avoid being painted as weak, if too few bills get passed in Congress?

Who gives a shit if they're "painted as weak"? Why does it matter now many bills the ram through Congress? I'd rather have thoughtful, moderate leadership. We just kicked out a bully.

Ok, how does that happen when the two parties prefer caterwauling than finding common ground?
 
The Democratic Party is in a catch 22. The Presidents party generally loses during the midterms. That leaves two years for the party to convince the voters to buck the trend.

If they pass too little legislation, they will be painted as feckless and lose the party majority.

If they jettison the filibuster and pass as much legislation as they can, they will be painted as imperious and still lose the majority.

Just my opinion here, but the latter seems to be the better option. If the electorate agrees with the legislation passed, it increases the odds of staying in power.

The Democrats need to remember that Biden only barely won against the worst President in history. And, without Trump's #StopTheSqueal shitshow, they probably wouldn't have control of the Senate. They have nothing at all like a "mandate", and if they pretend they do, they will pay the price.

Agreed in principle.

That being said, how does the Democratic Party avoid being painted as weak, if too few bills get passed in Congress?

Who gives a shit if they're "painted as weak"? Why does it matter now many bills the ram through Congress? I'd rather have thoughtful, moderate leadership. We just kicked out a bully.

Ok, how does that happen when the two parties prefer caterwauling than finding common ground?

Well, if both parties are intent on sucking, the result will not be good.
 
The Republican party will never get a majority again. Enjoy watching them eat each other to vie for Trump's support.

LOL. If I had a nickel every time I heard a partisan claim the other party will never be in power again I'd be a very wealthy man.

Odds are in the Republicans' favor to take the majority in the House and Senate after the next midterms. Doesn't mean they will, of course, but history heavily favors that result.
The 2022 Midterms are extremely friendly to Democrats. If Biden continues to use Reconciliation to send money to people, it'll be a blowout.

The 2022 midterms are not friendly to Democrats. The party not in the White House almost always makes gains. Showing the map of what is open and who has to defend what has never been an accurate barometer. I remember Democrats thinking they were going to clean up in 2010 after the blowout election they had in 2008 with Obama and the Republicans having to defend a whole bunch of seats because of how well they did in the Senate in 2004 and you know what happened? The Republicans had a historical midterm. They won six Senate seats and 63 House seats because Obama's popularity tanked after the passage of ObamaCare.

If you think throwing paltry crumbs to people in form of stimulus checks over and over is going to garner votes for the Democrats you don't have a good grasp on what's going on out there. People don't want table scraps thrown to them. They want their lives back and the longer this drags out the more it's going to hurt Biden's popularity. Not to mention additional factors of some of the radical legislation being proposed and some of the extremist loons he's been appointing to his cabinet.

You should take note that even with toxic Trump at the top of the ticket this past election and him losing, the Republicans still gained several House seats (they were predicted to lose another ten to 20) and the Democrats still failed to win a decisive majority in the Senate (they were expected to do so easily.) The voters indicated they wanted Trump gone, but they weren't necessarily buying what your party was selling either, hence the mixed results.
tl;dr

Hardly. You're just afraid to admit you might be wrong.
 
... to realize that "reforming" the filibuster so that they can ram their agenda down our throats will allow Republicans to do exactly the same thing the next time they control Congress? Prolly not.

They clearly didn't learn this lesson after they removed it for judicial nominees.

No, Democrats aren't that smart. It's a live for the moment and ignore long term consequences ideology in every way. How are we going to finance Trillions and Trillions in more debt? Who cares!
 
... to realize that "reforming" the filibuster so that they can ram their agenda down our throats will allow Republicans to do exactly the same thing the next time they control Congress? Prolly not.

They clearly didn't learn this lesson after they removed it for judicial nominees.
I sorta disagree. The fillibuster was supposed to be a tool to get to compromise. The party proposing a bill had to have 60 votes. (unless its reconcilliation)
I wouldn't think that is hard, but in fact it is. I think making the opposing party occupy the floor is a good start.
 
The Republican party will never get a majority again. Enjoy watching them eat each other to vie for Trump's support.

LOL. If I had a nickel every time I heard a partisan claim the other party will never be in power again I'd be a very wealthy man.

Odds are in the Republicans' favor to take the majority in the House and Senate after the next midterms. Doesn't mean they will, of course, but history heavily favors that result.
The 2022 Midterms are extremely friendly to Democrats. If Biden continues to use Reconciliation to send money to people, it'll be a blowout.

The 2022 midterms are not friendly to Democrats. The party not in the White House almost always makes gains. Showing the map of what is open and who has to defend what has never been an accurate barometer. I remember Democrats thinking they were going to clean up in 2010 after the blowout election they had in 2008 with Obama and the Republicans having to defend a whole bunch of seats because of how well they did in the Senate in 2004 and you know what happened? The Republicans had a historical midterm. They won six Senate seats and 63 House seats because Obama's popularity tanked after the passage of ObamaCare.

If you think throwing paltry crumbs to people in form of stimulus checks over and over is going to garner votes for the Democrats you don't have a good grasp on what's going on out there. People don't want table scraps thrown to them. They want their lives back and the longer this drags out the more it's going to hurt Biden's popularity. Not to mention additional factors of some of the radical legislation being proposed and some of the extremist loons he's been appointing to his cabinet.

You should take note that even with toxic Trump at the top of the ticket this past election and him losing, the Republicans still gained several House seats (they were predicted to lose another ten to 20) and the Democrats still failed to win a decisive majority in the Senate (they were expected to do so easily.) The voters indicated they wanted Trump gone, but they weren't necessarily buying what your party was selling either, hence the mixed results.
tl;dr

Hardly. You're just afraid to admit you might be wrong.
I really don't think I am wrong about how ****ed the GOP is. I just dunno where they go from here. They have nothing let in policy, they are backed against a wall: either hate on blacks still, or don't. That's a wall you can't be up againstin 2021 ---- it's not fucking 1950.
 
... to realize that "reforming" the filibuster so that they can ram their agenda down our throats will allow Republicans to do exactly the same thing the next time they control Congress? Prolly not.

They clearly didn't learn this lesson after they removed it for judicial nominees.


No. No, they do not realize it.
 

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