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Sounds like a bunch of new laws that aren't going to be enforced ... we already have too many laws that are not enforced ... and we're spending money like mad to not enforce these laws ...
If we want to make our streets, schools and Capitols safe ... require women to carry guns in their purses ...
Sounds like a bunch of new laws that aren't going to be enforced ... we already have too many laws that are not enforced ... and we're spending money like mad to not enforce these laws ...
If we want to make our streets, schools and Capitols safe ... require women to carry guns in their purses ...
Wow, pass another law. yah, that should work. Force women (who are the least likely to wish to carry a loaded gun) to carry a loaded gun. That'll show them Totalitarians.
Daryl believes people should buy meat from the supermarket where it was made without harming any animals.Dumbass most citizens owned guns how in the hell did they eat?Well Regulated
Fucking liar.
How else can we well regulate our militias?
In working order as to be expected.
The Government is not well regulated.
How can our well regulated militias be in good working order if we don’t know who is in the militia and what guns they have?
Constitution says we should train gun owners and know what kind of weapons they have. It is necessary to the security of a free state
After the formation of the Nation, the States created Armories and scattered them throughout their state. Many citizens didn't own guns anymore. The threat was removed that they once needed them was gone. Almost any town or city had an Armory where the Organized Militia could gather and arm up when called on to do so. And it happened more times than one would think for a lot of reasons. But, mostly, the Organized Militia was called on for Local and State Emergencies like Floods, fires, etc.. Along with those working the humanitarian duties, some were armed to protect the other militias, keep order, etc.. Or they might be armed up to do strike breaking (not our finest hour). And yes, the Militia would fire on the population and often times did by order of the Governor (see the strike breaking in Leadville, Colorado 1897). I see where many call the early guards National Guards but the National Guards weren't invented until 1898 and finalized in 1916/17. Today, there is some legal problems with calling a unit a Guard Unit unless it's a National Guard Unit. But some states have State Militias like Texas and others (like California) have SDF or State Defense Forces. Most states don't have Organized Militias though but a Governor can form one on a whim.
Like the needing of the Armories, times change. We no longer need the armories so much. But they do exist. For instance, in Texas, the State Militia is made up of almost every Law Enforcement, Fire Fighter, Emergency Person and a lot of others. Not all keep weapons so Texas has Armories that they can issue firearms from when needed. So the Armory isn't dead, it's just not needed in MOST states due to the lack of them having a Regulated Militia. But if one is formed, they will also need to form an Armory.
Armories are from MY childhood before they were turned into Gyms, Carpet Sales Stores and eventually torn down.
There were no Coscos or supermarkets
Leftist wet dream.Here's something to think about imagine lawmakers going up against gun owners most viciously the way they're doing right now. Then just think about how worse it will be with no guns in the hands of the civilian populationBecause no one ever resisted leftist tyranny with a car.when a car is sold to a habitual drunk and they drive the car drunk and kill someone you'll never call for a ban on cars or want to trace it back to the original owner why?Background checks only work if the vendor submits the paperwork.Works for me
I support background checks...
Sensible gun control
Do you think people who illegally sell guns do that?
Are you that fucking stupid?
Hint: Yes. Yes, you are.
That is why we need traceability of guns from cradle to grave
That way, when Dave man sells his gun to a criminal, we know where it came from
And that's what this is all about: Making it impossible to resist leftist tyranny.
If the government tells you you don't need a gun -- you need a gun.
Then just think about how worse it will be with no guns in the hands of the civilian population
My right to self-defense predates any form of government
I'm 65, never heard of an armory where Civies kept their weapons. Why would they? Trust the govt? Yeah OK
Somehow the quotes were ass backwards how did that happen?Shall not be infringed says I do have that right.You have no right to be protected from a background check or have unregistered weapons
Thugs and tyrants like shitflinger cannot end rights, they can only infringe. If through terrorism and force of violence vermin like shitflinger disarm you. they have infringed and violated your rights, but the right still exists.
Why do you have a problem with guns in the hands of citizenns in a free state, in a police state only the police have gunsThen just think about how worse it will be with no guns in the hands of the civilian population
Think the opposite, guns everywhere in a police state
My right to self-defense predates any form of government
good luck w/that
I'm 65, never heard of an armory where Civies kept their weapons. Why would they? Trust the govt? Yeah OK
AL's & VFW's....
~S~
poor beta maleDaryl believes people should buy meat from the supermarket where it was made without harming any animals.Dumbass most citizens owned guns how in the hell did they eat?Well RegulatedHow else can we well regulate our militias?
In working order as to be expected.
The Government is not well regulated.
How can our well regulated militias be in good working order if we don’t know who is in the militia and what guns they have?
Constitution says we should train gun owners and know what kind of weapons they have. It is necessary to the security of a free state
After the formation of the Nation, the States created Armories and scattered them throughout their state. Many citizens didn't own guns anymore. The threat was removed that they once needed them was gone. Almost any town or city had an Armory where the Organized Militia could gather and arm up when called on to do so. And it happened more times than one would think for a lot of reasons. But, mostly, the Organized Militia was called on for Local and State Emergencies like Floods, fires, etc.. Along with those working the humanitarian duties, some were armed to protect the other militias, keep order, etc.. Or they might be armed up to do strike breaking (not our finest hour). And yes, the Militia would fire on the population and often times did by order of the Governor (see the strike breaking in Leadville, Colorado 1897). I see where many call the early guards National Guards but the National Guards weren't invented until 1898 and finalized in 1916/17. Today, there is some legal problems with calling a unit a Guard Unit unless it's a National Guard Unit. But some states have State Militias like Texas and others (like California) have SDF or State Defense Forces. Most states don't have Organized Militias though but a Governor can form one on a whim.
Like the needing of the Armories, times change. We no longer need the armories so much. But they do exist. For instance, in Texas, the State Militia is made up of almost every Law Enforcement, Fire Fighter, Emergency Person and a lot of others. Not all keep weapons so Texas has Armories that they can issue firearms from when needed. So the Armory isn't dead, it's just not needed in MOST states due to the lack of them having a Regulated Militia. But if one is formed, they will also need to form an Armory.
Armories are from MY childhood before they were turned into Gyms, Carpet Sales Stores and eventually torn down.
There were no Coscos or supermarkets
Gun registration always precedes gun confiscation always precedes tyranny.These are the new anti-gun laws that the Virginia Dimocrats are set to pass ASAP.
Here's the List of Bills Anti-Gunners Plan to Enact in Virginia - GunsAmerica Digest
The list from local news affiliate WSET:
- Legislation requiring background checks on all firearms sales and transactions. The bill mandates that any person selling, renting, trading, or transferring a firearm must first obtain the results of a background check before completing the transaction.
- Legislation banning dangerous weapons. This will include bans on assault weapons, high-capacity magazines, bump stocks and silencers.
- Legislation to reinstate Virginia’s successful law allowing only one handgun purchase within a 30-day period.
- Legislation requiring that lost and stolen firearms be reported to law enforcement within 24 hours.
- Legislation creating an Extreme Risk Protective Order, allowing law enforcement and the courts to temporarily separate a person from firearms if the person exhibits dangerous behavior that presents an immediate threat to self or others.
- Legislation prohibiting all individuals subject to final protective orders from possessing firearms. The bill expands Virginia law which currently prohibits individuals subject to final protective orders of family abuse from possessing firearms.
- Legislation enhancing the punishment for allowing access to loaded, unsecured firearm by a child from a Class 3 Misdemeanor to a Class 6 felony. The bill also raises the age of the child from 14 to 18.
- Legislation enabling localities to enact any firearms ordinances that are stricter than state law. This includes regulating firearms in municipal buildings, libraries and at permitted events.
Can't tell from the summaries.. There's not enough details... On universal background checks, I think too many situations will crop up that infringe on the current owner.. For instance, when settling my dad's estate, I had an "arsenal" of high quality single shot bolt action target rifles to dispose of.. My Dad was director of Civitan Club Jr Rifle League.. And there were about 30 of them. And about 4000 rounds of "GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED 22 cal ammunition..
I was coming from Cali to Fla then and I couldn't figure what to do with them.. Remembered a HS friend's father owned a local gun store.. So I loaded up the car (snicker snicker), obeyed ALL the traffic rules (LOL) and drove slowly and carefully to the store where my HS friend was STILL there running the biz.. I had tried to donate them to Boy Scouts who still had a rifle range in the area, but ran out of time.. Transfers of THAT type would trigger MASSIVE govt inquisitions.. Even tho the rifles were no where near the "dangerous" designations.
Also raising the age of a "child" to 18 in the case of "unsecured" weapons is problematic... Because even COPS get weapons stolen from their vehicles.. And I wouldn't want to go to jail for fucking CLASS 6 FELONY if some gang bangers broke into my car or robbed my childless house and ended up with some of my good stuff...
With what the anti-gunners want with Universal Background checks you would have to run a check for each gun you transfered to another individual.....and the cost that that would require.....can you imagine having to conduct 30 background checks, because each transfer requires a separate check........?
The primary reason they want universal background checks is to get gun registration.......that is the goal. The side benefit is to nail gun collectors after they die.....causing extreme hardship on the families who then would have to do something with all the guns....with the goal to make the easiest route giving the guns to a buy back program or destroying them........
They the leftist are cheering that the troops are pulling out of Afghanistan one particular asshat called them losers. I asked him how would the military handle American citizens that are gun owners when they can't handle sheep fuckers?Leftist wet dream.Here's something to think about imagine lawmakers going up against gun owners most viciously the way they're doing right now. Then just think about how worse it will be with no guns in the hands of the civilian populationBecause no one ever resisted leftist tyranny with a car.when a car is sold to a habitual drunk and they drive the car drunk and kill someone you'll never call for a ban on cars or want to trace it back to the original owner why?Background checks only work if the vendor submits the paperwork.
Do you think people who illegally sell guns do that?
Are you that fucking stupid?
Hint: Yes. Yes, you are.
That is why we need traceability of guns from cradle to grave
That way, when Dave man sells his gun to a criminal, we know where it came from
And that's what this is all about: Making it impossible to resist leftist tyranny.
If the government tells you you don't need a gun -- you need a gun.
Why do you have a problem with guns in the hands of citizenns in a free state, in a police state only the police have guns
The right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be infringedThese are the new anti-gun laws that the Virginia Dimocrats are set to pass ASAP.
Here's the List of Bills Anti-Gunners Plan to Enact in Virginia - GunsAmerica Digest
The list from local news affiliate WSET:
- Legislation requiring background checks on all firearms sales and transactions. The bill mandates that any person selling, renting, trading, or transferring a firearm must first obtain the results of a background check before completing the transaction.
- Legislation banning dangerous weapons. This will include bans on assault weapons, high-capacity magazines, bump stocks and silencers.
- Legislation to reinstate Virginia’s successful law allowing only one handgun purchase within a 30-day period.
- Legislation requiring that lost and stolen firearms be reported to law enforcement within 24 hours.
- Legislation creating an Extreme Risk Protective Order, allowing law enforcement and the courts to temporarily separate a person from firearms if the person exhibits dangerous behavior that presents an immediate threat to self or others.
- Legislation prohibiting all individuals subject to final protective orders from possessing firearms. The bill expands Virginia law which currently prohibits individuals subject to final protective orders of family abuse from possessing firearms.
- Legislation enhancing the punishment for allowing access to loaded, unsecured firearm by a child from a Class 3 Misdemeanor to a Class 6 felony. The bill also raises the age of the child from 14 to 18.
- Legislation enabling localities to enact any firearms ordinances that are stricter than state law. This includes regulating firearms in municipal buildings, libraries and at permitted events.
It's worse than that, I think. Daryl actively wants to destroy the Constitution. I'm not at all confident he was loyal to the United States while he was wearing the uniform..What we have here folks is your common everyday variety beta maleAnd they had the support of the Governors. The Governors supported them in supplies and logistics. And even after the formation of the United States, the Governors had the Military in the form of Regulated Militias. And I can reasonably take for granted we all know the original concept of what was a member of the Regulated Militia.
What do you have against men running around in the woods with guns? As long as they don't threaten you what's the problem? Not sure what a 'Pickle Suit' is but, it's hard to see how threatening THAT would be.
If doesn't bother me one bit if that's the way you want to spend your weekend. Hey, some people croche, others play with trains, some run around the woods in green pickle suits playing with guns. If it's harmless, it's a hobby. Who am I to say you can't do it. But to start believing that you are some sort of Militia and taking it out of the woods into the population is where I draw the line.
Habitat basement dweller sickly looking never had pussy penetration.
Daryl brags that he was in the military for 20 years. It's not politically correct, but the truth is there are quite a few in the military, not the majority by any means, be still a substantial number, who are looking for an easy ride. They can basically cruise with very few expectations placed on them while they have basic needs like room and board paid for. This isn't service, it's welfare. Daryl and those like him are just feeding at the public trough, looking for a free ride.
OK we're one gun control law away from a police state.Why do you have a problem with guns in the hands of citizenns in a free state, in a police state only the police have guns
IMHO, we're no where near a frees state Red
No, i have no problem with citizens owning guns...autos....you name it
Save for the police state it's growing
You see, my theory isn't 'they want to disarm us' to keep us in line
I'm convinced they want to deputize the general 'armed' populace to their whim
~S~
How many more laws do we need until criminals start obeying them?I don’t want a round up of guns. It is not practical and it is not necessaryKilling 30,000 people a year is not personal libertyRemember, kids, people who want the maximum amount of personal liberty for all citizens are fascists.Ah, the big lie, how very clever.
Tell me Comrade; If we take a system where the state has absolute control of the means of production using central planning to determine what products are produced and what price they are sold for, where an authoritarian state rules under dictatorship of either a single man or a group of rulers, where the rights of individuals are subverted to the privilege of groups, where individualism in general is oppressed in favor of the collective, where any competing political or economic ideas are suppressed by the state, where the press is controlled by the state or the party and operates to further the agenda of the rulers, where speech against the state or collectivism in general is a criminal offense; how does this substantially differ from the Marxism you promote?
Wow, you actually described Marxism pretty well. And you also pointed out why it can't exist. One person or a small group of people just can't control something as large as the United States Economically or it's Government. So I doubt if we have too many real Marxists in USMB at this time. You are just playing "Hey, look over there".
But, by definition, you ARE a Fascist.
According to some retarded Marxist on the internet.
rightwinger, the genie is out of the bottle and you aren't going to put it back in. I know you want all guns rounded up and disposed of but it just won't happen. So we do common sense gun regulations to minimize the body count. Harping that we all should turn in our firearms doesn't help anymore than fruitcake dave with his fruitcake "Unleash the Dogs of War" routine. So how about stay on point with common sense gun regulations with me and let's present a solid front to these sockos.
I do want sensible gun control with the objective of keeping guns out of the hands of bad guys and crazies.
To do that, we need to know where the guns are coming from and track them from manufacture to destruction. It includes licensing, registration and background checks on ALL transfers of guns
The laws you suggest will impact lawful gun owners only. Not criminals.You have no right to be protected from a background check or have unregistered weaponsYour need to feel safe does not Trump a persons RIGHTThe right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not infringedA well regulated militia, being necessary to a free state...Who is we? Were in the Constitution does it say anyone needs to be trained? Hint: Your analogy doesn't count.
You got something against freedom buddy?
So you can run around shooting your gun up public?
Telling me no to shoot is infringing on my right to bear arms
Red Flag laws violate due process. There's nothing keeping law enforcement from confiscating the weapons of a normal person because an irrational gun hater called and said he's dangerous.I don’t want a round up of guns. It is not practical and it is not necessaryKilling 30,000 people a year is not personal libertyRemember, kids, people who want the maximum amount of personal liberty for all citizens are fascists.Wow, you actually described Marxism pretty well. And you also pointed out why it can't exist. One person or a small group of people just can't control something as large as the United States Economically or it's Government. So I doubt if we have too many real Marxists in USMB at this time. You are just playing "Hey, look over there".
But, by definition, you ARE a Fascist.
According to some retarded Marxist on the internet.
rightwinger, the genie is out of the bottle and you aren't going to put it back in. I know you want all guns rounded up and disposed of but it just won't happen. So we do common sense gun regulations to minimize the body count. Harping that we all should turn in our firearms doesn't help anymore than fruitcake dave with his fruitcake "Unleash the Dogs of War" routine. So how about stay on point with common sense gun regulations with me and let's present a solid front to these sockos.
I do want sensible gun control with the objective of keeping guns out of the hands of bad guys and crazies.
To do that, we need to know where the guns are coming from and track them from manufacture to destruction. It includes licensing, registration and background checks on ALL transfers of guns
Every Firearm manufactured is Registered at the factory. And every time it goes through a Licensed FFL dealer it gets recorded. What you want to do is to automatically link it to the buyer each and every time. That's Universal Gun Registration. I don't think that's going to fly. Fight the fights you have a chance of winning like Universal Background Checks and Red Flag laws. We win those and that's X number of bodies not left in a bloody mess that would otherwise be in the Morgue.
Rights are innate; everyone has them. It takes the actions of government to prevent the exercise of those rights.Shall not be infringed says I do have that right.You have no right to be protected from a background check or have unregistered weapons
Thugs and tyrants like shitflinger cannot end rights, they can only infringe. If through terrorism and force of violence vermin like shitflinger disarm you. they have infringed and violated your rights, but the right still exists.
WE CANT DEPORT 20 MILLION ILLEGALS BUT WE CAN GO DOOR TO DOOR AND CONFISCATE 300 MILLION GUNSI don’t want a round up of guns. It is not practical and it is not necessaryKilling 30,000 people a year is not personal libertyRemember, kids, people who want the maximum amount of personal liberty for all citizens are fascists.
According to some retarded Marxist on the internet.
rightwinger, the genie is out of the bottle and you aren't going to put it back in. I know you want all guns rounded up and disposed of but it just won't happen. So we do common sense gun regulations to minimize the body count. Harping that we all should turn in our firearms doesn't help anymore than fruitcake dave with his fruitcake "Unleash the Dogs of War" routine. So how about stay on point with common sense gun regulations with me and let's present a solid front to these sockos.
I do want sensible gun control with the objective of keeping guns out of the hands of bad guys and crazies.
To do that, we need to know where the guns are coming from and track them from manufacture to destruction. It includes licensing, registration and background checks on ALL transfers of guns
Every Firearm manufactured is Registered at the factory. And every time it goes through a Licensed FFL dealer it gets recorded. What you want to do is to automatically link it to the buyer each and every time. That's Universal Gun Registration. I don't think that's going to fly. Fight the fights you have a chance of winning like Universal Background Checks and Red Flag laws. We win those and that's X number of bodies not left in a bloody mess that would otherwise be in the Morgue.
And the 300 million guns already in the hands of free people, how will you deal with those, Adolf? What of the thousands of Chinese guns coming over the Southern border each day? How will you thugs deal with those?
