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Are we headed to war? Iraq embassy being evacuated

Why U.S. Just Ordered Non-Emergency Employees to Leave Iraq Embassy

Sure seems like a preamble.

Why does every single president get us into wars? The timing is very suspicious imo


Maybe Jimmy The Peanut should have thought-through his cowardly reaction when a former Ally, The Shah of Iran, was overthrown and persecuted by the Assahollahs in Iran.

Totally on that scumbag. Totally. May he rot in Hell for all eternity......

What dimocrap scum put the Shah through is an embarrassment to this Country.

But, dimocrap scum being the scum they are, will take the side of people (IRGC) who single out and target innocent young women like Neda who was just marching in the street in support of her fellow citizens.

23neda.screengrab.600.jpg


Neda_Agha-Soltan.jpg


You also might want to ask, "Where was the total scumbag and COWARD, obama, when we had the chance to help Iran's people overthrow a Totalitarian theocracy"?

Go ahead...... Ask.

dimocraps are the scum of the Earth

We don't need a war of choice, we need to go to the streets for a good old fashion protest, and let the members of congress know we the people will not support Trump's Wag the Dog crisis.

Those who do not remember how the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution worked out - 58,000 American Troops died way to earlier - need to write their member of Congress and demand they control Trump's War by invoking The War Powers Act: The War Powers Resolution was passed in 1973 by both Houses of Congress, overriding the veto of President Nixon. It was passed to reassert Congressional authority over the decision to send American troops to war.

Another reason not to commit troops. Air power can do it from a distance. No commitment to a combat zone. The WPA would not apply.

Explain how the WP Resolution does not apply.

BTW, a very interesting read
:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.cnas...arrier_Hendrix_FINAL.pdf?mtime=20160906080533

From the LINK:

"The queen of the American fleet, and the centerpiece of the most powerful Navy the world has ever seen, the aircraft carrier, is in danger of becoming like the battleships it was originally designed to support: big, expensive, vulnerable – and surprisingly irrelevant to the conflicts of the time."

A book by a Navy Capt with a Ph.d who ought to be the Sect. of Defense, who takes a look at the cost-benfits and cost-deficits which the current DOD seems to ignore.

The constitution specifically states that Congress is authorized "to provide and maintain a Navy" (Article 1 Section 8). The idea of "maintenance" of a Navy implies that Naval Forces would be a permanent fixture of national defense. Two types of Land Forces are described by the Constitution (Article 1 Section 8): the Militia (armed citizenry organized into local defense forces and state volunteer regiments) which Congress can "call forth" and prescribe the "organizing, arming, and disciplining [training]" of, as Congress did in the Militia acts of 1792; and the Army, which Congress can "raise and support", through regular appropriation acts limited to no more than two years. This division matches how the Revolutionary War was fought, by the Continental Army, raised and supported by the Continental Congress, and local Militias and Volunteer Regiments, raised by the separate Colonies. After the war, under the Articles of Confederation, a small standing Army, the First American Regiment was raised and gradually increased in size over time by Congress before, following the Constitution's ratification, being transformed into the Regular Army. The availability of a standing Army, and the President of the United States being authorized as "Commander in Chief", implies his ability as a military commander to employ forces necessary to fulfill his oath to defend the constitution.
 
Why U.S. Just Ordered Non-Emergency Employees to Leave Iraq Embassy

Sure seems like a preamble.

Why does every single president get us into wars? The timing is very suspicious imo


Maybe Jimmy The Peanut should have thought-through his cowardly reaction when a former Ally, The Shah of Iran, was overthrown and persecuted by the Assahollahs in Iran.

Totally on that scumbag. Totally. May he rot in Hell for all eternity......

What dimocrap scum put the Shah through is an embarrassment to this Country.

But, dimocrap scum being the scum they are, will take the side of people (IRGC) who single out and target innocent young women like Neda who was just marching in the street in support of her fellow citizens.

23neda.screengrab.600.jpg


Neda_Agha-Soltan.jpg


You also might want to ask, "Where was the total scumbag and COWARD, obama, when we had the chance to help Iran's people overthrow a Totalitarian theocracy"?

Go ahead...... Ask.

dimocraps are the scum of the Earth


The shah, khomeinis were no good but we were there in 1954, overthrowing them. We should have never been there.
 
FYI when Bolton was a kid Iran was run by the CIA’s puppet the Sha. I believe if not mistaken the Carter administration changed all that.


During the Truman presidency the British approached Truman to ask his blessing for a coup in Iran.
Truman told the Brits NO.

When IKE became POTUS the British once again sought approval for a coup in Iran; IKE approved.
The CIA via Kermit Roosevelt Jr. plotted & orchestrated the 1953 coup that deposed the democratically elected government of Mosaddegh.

The Shah (a US puppet) was put in place of Mosaddegh, the SAVAK was trained by US military personnel, and many Iranians were tortured & executed by the SAVAK.

That sounds like freedom, huh?

Funny, how America 'claims' to love & support freedom around the planet, with a record such as that.

You should go join the fight; you would prolly fit right in.
 
Why U.S. Just Ordered Non-Emergency Employees to Leave Iraq Embassy

Sure seems like a preamble.

Why does every single president get us into wars? The timing is very suspicious imo


Maybe Jimmy The Peanut should have thought-through his cowardly reaction when a former Ally, The Shah of Iran, was overthrown and persecuted by the Assahollahs in Iran.

Totally on that scumbag. Totally. May he rot in Hell for all eternity......

What dimocrap scum put the Shah through is an embarrassment to this Country.

But, dimocrap scum being the scum they are, will take the side of people (IRGC) who single out and target innocent young women like Neda who was just marching in the street in support of her fellow citizens.

23neda.screengrab.600.jpg


Neda_Agha-Soltan.jpg


You also might want to ask, "Where was the total scumbag and COWARD, obama, when we had the chance to help Iran's people overthrow a Totalitarian theocracy"?

Go ahead...... Ask.

dimocraps are the scum of the Earth


You sound like a HUGE FAN of the Shah, a puppet of the US, a puppet put in place via a CIA coup.

You must also be a HUGE FAN of the SAVAK, an Iranian terrorist organization that was trained by US military personnel.

The SAVAK was responsible for the torture & the murder of thousands of Iranians.

Do you believe in 'freedom?' Oh, OK. You believe in freedom for folks you 'agree' with.

That must be some pretty convenient stuff.
 
The shah, khomeinis were no good but we were there in 1954, overthrowing them. We should have never been there.

Why does everything always have to come down to a moral argument with you people?

It's because you don't have a clue how to debate otherwise. Moral ambiguity is all you know.

"We" may have been trying to change the government in Iran (in 1953 actually) because it was such a wonderful government -- You know, the one that sympathized with Hitler. The one that helped Nazi Troops during WWII. The one that sided with the USSR after the War.

Why in the world would we want to change such a wonderful government??

The fact is, the Shah was our Ally. Period. End of discussion.

Was he a turd? Of course, but look at the murdering scum he had to deal with.

Sometimes a turd you know is better than the one you do't.

I suppose you prefer the Assahollahs??

probably

Children can't think past what they want
 
Why U.S. Just Ordered Non-Emergency Employees to Leave Iraq Embassy

Sure seems like a preamble.

Why does every single president get us into wars? The timing is very suspicious imo


Maybe Jimmy The Peanut should have thought-through his cowardly reaction when a former Ally, The Shah of Iran, was overthrown and persecuted by the Assahollahs in Iran.

Totally on that scumbag. Totally. May he rot in Hell for all eternity......

What dimocrap scum put the Shah through is an embarrassment to this Country.

But, dimocrap scum being the scum they are, will take the side of people (IRGC) who single out and target innocent young women like Neda who was just marching in the street in support of her fellow citizens.

23neda.screengrab.600.jpg


Neda_Agha-Soltan.jpg


You also might want to ask, "Where was the total scumbag and COWARD, obama, when we had the chance to help Iran's people overthrow a Totalitarian theocracy"?

Go ahead...... Ask.

dimocraps are the scum of the Earth

We don't need a war of choice, we need to go to the streets for a good old fashion protest, and let the members of congress know we the people will not support Trump's Wag the Dog crisis.

Those who do not remember how the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution worked out - 58,000 American Troops died way to earlier - need to write their member of Congress and demand they control Trump's War by invoking The War Powers Act: The War Powers Resolution was passed in 1973 by both Houses of Congress, overriding the veto of President Nixon. It was passed to reassert Congressional authority over the decision to send American troops to war.

Another reason not to commit troops. Air power can do it from a distance. No commitment to a combat zone. The WPA would not apply.

Explain how the WP Resolution does not apply.

BTW, a very interesting read
:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.cnas...arrier_Hendrix_FINAL.pdf?mtime=20160906080533

From the LINK:

"The queen of the American fleet, and the centerpiece of the most powerful Navy the world has ever seen, the aircraft carrier, is in danger of becoming like the battleships it was originally designed to support: big, expensive, vulnerable – and surprisingly irrelevant to the conflicts of the time."

A book by a Navy Capt with a Ph.d who ought to be the Sect. of Defense, who takes a look at the cost-benfits and cost-deficits which the current DOD seems to ignore.

The constitution specifically states that Congress is authorized "to provide and maintain a Navy" (Article 1 Section 8). The idea of "maintenance" of a Navy implies that Naval Forces would be a permanent fixture of national defense. Two types of Land Forces are described by the Constitution (Article 1 Section 8): the Militia (armed citizenry organized into local defense forces and state volunteer regiments) which Congress can "call forth" and prescribe the "organizing, arming, and disciplining [training]" of, as Congress did in the Militia acts of 1792; and the Army, which Congress can "raise and support", through regular appropriation acts limited to no more than two years. This division matches how the Revolutionary War was fought, by the Continental Army, raised and supported by the Continental Congress, and local Militias and Volunteer Regiments, raised by the separate Colonies. After the war, under the Articles of Confederation, a small standing Army, the First American Regiment was raised and gradually increased in size over time by Congress before, following the Constitution's ratification, being transformed into the Regular Army. The availability of a standing Army, and the President of the United States being authorized as "Commander in Chief", implies his ability as a military commander to employ forces necessary to fulfill his oath to defend the constitution.

If Trump were to "Employ these forces...to defend the Constitution", he would have to order them to put himself before a firing squad!
 
The shah, khomeinis were no good but we were there in 1954, overthrowing them. We should have never been there.

Why does everything always have to come down to a moral argument with you people?

It's because you don't have a clue how to debate otherwise. Moral ambiguity is all you know.

"We" may have been trying to change the government in Iran (in 1953 actually) because it was such a wonderful government -- You know, the one that sympathized with Hitler. The one that helped Nazi Troops during WWII. The one that sided with the USSR after the War.

Why in the world would we want to change such a wonderful government??

The fact is, the Shah was our Ally. Period. End of discussion.

Was he a turd? Of course, but look at the murdering scum he had to deal with.

Sometimes a turd you know is better than the one you do't.

I suppose you prefer the Assahollahs??

probably

Children can't think past what they want

Its not a moral argument and we never should have never been in iraq.
 
Why U.S. Just Ordered Non-Emergency Employees to Leave Iraq Embassy

Sure seems like a preamble.

Why does every single president get us into wars? The timing is very suspicious imo


Maybe Jimmy The Peanut should have thought-through his cowardly reaction when a former Ally, The Shah of Iran, was overthrown and persecuted by the Assahollahs in Iran.

Totally on that scumbag. Totally. May he rot in Hell for all eternity......

What dimocrap scum put the Shah through is an embarrassment to this Country.

But, dimocrap scum being the scum they are, will take the side of people (IRGC) who single out and target innocent young women like Neda who was just marching in the street in support of her fellow citizens.

23neda.screengrab.600.jpg


Neda_Agha-Soltan.jpg


You also might want to ask, "Where was the total scumbag and COWARD, obama, when we had the chance to help Iran's people overthrow a Totalitarian theocracy"?

Go ahead...... Ask.

dimocraps are the scum of the Earth

Obama was too busy plotting COUPS, and Paying AL Queda and the Muslim Brotherhood to commit terrorist acts on behalf of Obama's Jihad against Western Society and too busy deep throating and playing bottom to the PLO, HAMAS, IRAN and Russia to really give a fuck about being The President of THE UNTIED STATES to care.
 
FYI when Bolton was a kid Iran was run by the CIA’s puppet the Sha. I believe if not mistaken the Carter administration changed all that.


During the Truman presidency the British approached Truman to ask his blessing for a coup in Iran.
Truman told the Brits NO.

When IKE became POTUS the British once again sought approval for a coup in Iran; IKE approved.
The CIA via Kermit Roosevelt Jr. plotted & orchestrated the 1953 coup that deposed the democratically elected government of Mosaddegh.

The Shah (a US puppet) was put in place of Mosaddegh, the SAVAK was trained by US military personnel, and many Iranians were tortured & executed by the SAVAK.

That sounds like freedom, huh?

Funny, how America 'claims' to love & support freedom around the planet, with a record such as that.

You should go join the fight; you would prolly fit right in.


IKE promoted fascism and destroyed democracy throughout the 'Third world'. He was a tool of French & British conservative extremists and monarchists. The present day GOP is STILL their tool.

Since he was the ONLY person capable of it, he was almost certainly behind John Kennedy's assassination. He was the only person that commanded enough respect that he could manipulate all elements required for the assassination and the cover up.

IKE was the WORST President in U.S. history. We are still paying for his atrocities!
 
Its not a moral argument and we never should have never been in iraq.

BUT WE WERE!!!!!!

What the FUCK does your BULLSHIT statement have to do with the price of pussy in Peking??

Unless you have the power to Time Travel, all you morons need to SHUT THE FUCK UP with "We shouldn't have done ________"

WE WERE THERE and you can't change that. Period.

Let's try to stay in the present instead of regressing into Middle School morality arguments for fucks sake

Somebody should have kicked Stanley Ann Dunham down a flight of stairs when she was preggo with Frank Davis' bastard child, too.

But they didn't
 
IKE promoted fascism and destroyed democracy throughout the 'Third world'. He was a tool of French & British conservative extremists and monarchists. The present day GOP is STILL their tool.

Since he was the ONLY person capable of it, he was almost certainly behind John Kennedy's assassination. He was the only person that commanded enough respect that he could manipulate all elements required for the assassination and the cover up.

IKE was the WORST President in U.S. history. We are still paying for his atrocities!

You are truly a stupid human being.

ignore button
 
The shah, khomeinis were no good but we were there in 1954, overthrowing them. We should have never been there.

Why does everything always have to come down to a moral argument with you people?

It's because you don't have a clue how to debate otherwise. Moral ambiguity is all you know.

"We" may have been trying to change the government in Iran (in 1953 actually) because it was such a wonderful government -- You know, the one that sympathized with Hitler. The one that helped Nazi Troops during WWII. The one that sided with the USSR after the War.

Why in the world would we want to change such a wonderful government??

The fact is, the Shah was our Ally. Period. End of discussion.

Was he a turd? Of course, but look at the murdering scum he had to deal with.

Sometimes a turd you know is better than the one you do't.

I suppose you prefer the Assahollahs??

probably

Children can't think past what they want
Well, when you're right....you're right. We shouldn't be bothering to have a moral argument with CRCs (con-servative republican christians).....it's a total waste of time.
 
Its not a moral argument and we never should have never been in iraq.

BUT WE WERE!!!!!!

What the FUCK does your BULLSHIT statement have to do with the price of pussy in Peking??

Unless you have the power to Time Travel, all you morons need to SHUT THE FUCK UP with "We shouldn't have done ________"

WE WERE THERE and you can't change that. Period.

Let's try to stay in the present instead of regressing into Middle School morality arguments for fucks sake

Somebody should have kicked Stanley Ann Dunham down a flight of stairs when she was preggo with Frank Davis' bastard child, too.

But they didn't

Im in the present looking at the past disasters and yet here we are again, making the same mistakes.
 
Its not a moral argument and we never should have never been in iraq.

BUT WE WERE!!!!!!

What the FUCK does your BULLSHIT statement have to do with the price of pussy in Peking??

Unless you have the power to Time Travel, all you morons need to SHUT THE FUCK UP with "We shouldn't have done ________"

WE WERE THERE and you can't change that. Period.

Let's try to stay in the present instead of regressing into Middle School morality arguments for fucks sake

Somebody should have kicked Stanley Ann Dunham down a flight of stairs when she was preggo with Frank Davis' bastard child, too.

But they didn't
Yep....absolutely no point in bringing up morals and/or a moral point with CRCs.
 
FYI when Bolton was a kid Iran was run by the CIA’s puppet the Sha. I believe if not mistaken the Carter administration changed all that.


During the Truman presidency the British approached Truman to ask his blessing for a coup in Iran.
Truman told the Brits NO.

When IKE became POTUS the British once again sought approval for a coup in Iran; IKE approved.
The CIA via Kermit Roosevelt Jr. plotted & orchestrated the 1953 coup that deposed the democratically elected government of Mosaddegh.

The Shah (a US puppet) was put in place of Mosaddegh, the SAVAK was trained by US military personnel, and many Iranians were tortured & executed by the SAVAK.

That sounds like freedom, huh?

Funny, how America 'claims' to love & support freedom around the planet, with a record such as that.

You should go join the fight; you would prolly fit right in.


IKE promoted fascism and destroyed democracy throughout the 'Third world'. He was a tool of French & British conservative extremists and monarchists. The present day GOP is STILL their tool.

Since he was the ONLY person capable of it, he was almost certainly behind John Kennedy's assassination. He was the only person that commanded enough respect that he could manipulate all elements required for the assassination and the cover up.

IKE was the WORST President in U.S. history. We are still paying for his atrocities!

I thought it was quite ironic that IKE offered US his parting shot, warning US of the MIC.

It made no sense having a decades long military guy warning US of the dangers of unwarranted power by the military & the government.

I saw that pitiful speech as the mad ramblings of a guilty conscience making some feeble attempt at absolving himself from the deceit & death he was party to.
 
dimocrap scum enter another thread with NO intention of contributing to it in any fashion other than to shit all over it.

The Mods in here seriously need to up their game.

I've about had it
 
Maybe Jimmy The Peanut should have thought-through his cowardly reaction when a former Ally, The Shah of Iran, was overthrown and persecuted by the Assahollahs in Iran.

Totally on that scumbag. Totally. May he rot in Hell for all eternity......

What dimocrap scum put the Shah through is an embarrassment to this Country.

Maybe Eisenhower should have thought it through better when his CIA colluded with the British MI-6 to overthrow the democratically elected and secular president of Iran in the 1950s (because he had the nerve to demand BP give more of its oil profits to Iran where they were extracting it from) and install the Shah, a dictator, who the people despised and ultimately gave rise to Khomeini.

The US created radical Iran, plain and simple, because as usual for the last 100 years we simply can't mind our fucking business.
 
Its not a moral argument and we never should have never been in iraq.

BUT WE WERE!!!!!!

What the FUCK does your BULLSHIT statement have to do with the price of pussy in Peking??

Unless you have the power to Time Travel, all you morons need to SHUT THE FUCK UP with "We shouldn't have done ________"

WE WERE THERE and you can't change that. Period.

Let's try to stay in the present instead of regressing into Middle School morality arguments for fucks sake

Somebody should have kicked Stanley Ann Dunham down a flight of stairs when she was preggo with Frank Davis' bastard child, too.



But they didn't

Im in the present looking at the past disasters and yet here we are again, making the same mistakes.

And besides your very excellent point, if Trump gets US into a war in Iran Trump will prove that he is just as SWAMPY as the swamp he claimed he was gonna drain.

We can call him Donald 'Swampy' Trump ....................

and besides that point, Trump would completely wreck the economy with a war in Iran
 
dimocrap scum enter another thread with NO intention of contributing to it in any fashion other than to shit all over it.

The Mods in here seriously need to up their game.

I've about had it

plenty of 'American' history in this thread; the fact that you don't like what you may only now be learning isn't anyone else's problem.

Whine all you like; scream like a pig.

It's a discussion forum; you can take your ball & run away any time ................
 

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