Are We Supposed To Harden Walmarts and Grocery Stores, Too?

[Big Bend Texas]

Age restrictions: under aged people still get guns and bring them to school. Conclusion: age restrictions don't work.
Secured schools: they don't get breached. Conclusion: secured schools work

That is entirely too accurate and simple.

We know there are things that work, securing schools is number one on that list.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Nor evidence that it would be completely ineffective.

Your link still agrees with me.

When you have some evidence to show us it works feel free to start this conversation all over by presenting it.

 

[XponentialChaos]

When you have some evidence to show us it works feel free to start this conversation all over by presenting it.

No need. Your link already agrees with me and provides numerical reasoning for why.

Thanks for posting that.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

No need. Your link already agrees with me and provides reasoning for why.

Thanks for posting that.

Yet no evidence to show it will work. A suggestion is not evidence.

You are a boring broken record, get some new material.

 

[justoffal]

The guntards seem to think the solution to mass shootings has something to do with doors and putting cops in schools.

Well, the cops completely failed at Parkland and Uvalde. In fact, the cop who fucked up at Parkland was fired, but then he sued and got his job back...with back pay.

So much for "the only thing that will stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun".

The guntards are also ignoring the fact that just a few days before the Uvalde, a white replacement bleever mass shooter took out a bunch of black people at a grocery store.

They also ignore the fact a white replacement bleever traveled hours to kill a bunch of Mexicans at a Wal-mart in El Paso.


We cannot harden every grocery story, Wal-Mart, mall, or other gathering places.


Duh!

The cops were fine before you defunded them and prosecuted them for doing their job now you're just getting what you deserve and what you want.
Police officers who who have to think about the liabilities of performing their duties before they perform them. It takes time to think about those things and time is exactly what the criminals need. So you have an effect given all criminals much more time to get this stuff done.
Doofus.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Yet no evidence to show it will work. A suggestion is not evidence.

You are a boring broken record, get some new material.

Sure. I’ll get some new material as soon as you find me another link that disagrees with your own claim.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Well, the cops completely failed at Parkland and Uvalde. In fact, the cop who fucked up at Parkland was fired, but then he sued and got his job back...with back pay.

Neither Parkland nor Uvalde were secure buildings and neither had an immediate armed response available.

Secure the buildings and do a better job of training those responsible for an immediate armed response.

Gun control is a proven failure by every measure.

 

[justoffal]

God you leftists are as dumb as a rock. Yes, I provided evidence age limits don't work with a list of school shootings (and the link to them) that clearly shows minors, who are not allowed to own any kind of gun, brought them to school and in many cases used them to commit a crime. There is no more evidence than that which can be provided. THEY DON'T WORK! If they don't work on minors, HTF can you conclude they will on adults? That's probably the dumbest argument offered today on USMB.

It may be the dumbest one I e seen here ever....

 

[Big Bend Texas]

It may be the dumbest one I e seen here ever....

Facts are not welcome when discussing this topic, feelings rule.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Fact: “People aged 18 to 20 made up 4 percent of the US population and represented 18 percent of all offenders in gun homicides. Adults aged 21 and over made up 73 percent of the population and 74 percent of all offenders in gun homicides. Analysis includes all offenders in single and multiple offender incidents.”

No wonder Republicans in Florida raised their minimum age limit to buy guns.

 

[Kosh]

Just remember the far left only wants the criminals armed..

 

[PoliticalChic]

Neither Parkland nor Uvalde were secure buildings and neither had an immediate armed response available.

Secure the buildings and do a better job of training those responsible for an immediate armed response.

Gun control is a proven failure by every measure.

John Lott claimed that 98% or more of mass shootings from 1950 to the present occurred in gun-free zones.

The Democrat aim is to make all of America a gun free zone.

 

[scruffy]

Are you always this angry?

Only when I have to deal with shit for brains dimwitted leftards

 

[DBA]

Exploring solutions to gun crime and violence is not to be 'anti-gun.'

Too many Democrats have let their real feelings slip regarding gun control. Yes, they ultimately want to remove the right to purchase or have a firearm, just like they actually want unfettered immigration for political/power purposes, despite what they say. The proof is in the pudding. Like border security, don't fall for their line of bull.

 

[scruffy]

Too many Democrats have let their real feelings slip regarding gun control. Yes, they ultimately want to remove the right to purchase or have a firearm, just like they actually want unfettered immigration for political/power purposes, despite what they say. The proof is in the pudding. Like border security, don't fall for their line of bull.

When the Russians and Chinese attack, the Democrats will pass a law outlawing their assault rifles and large capacity magazines.

 

[DBA]

When the Russians and Chinese attack, the Democrats will pass a law outlawing their assault rifles and large capacity magazines.

Exactly, and according to their logic, they would turn them over to avoid breaking the law. Democrats strive for a Utopia that doesn't exist. They are the least pragmatic and realistic people on planet earth. Kumbaya.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It may be the dumbest one I e seen here ever....

It does get ridiculous. It's difficult to have a debate because leftists are so void of logic. Common sense is actually a gift many of us have that we take for granted.

Conservative: This is grass. Grass is the color green.
Liberal: How do you know grass is green?
Conservative: Look, here is the Sherwin-Williams paint website. See how their color green matches the grass?
Liberal: What makes them the authority on colors?
Conservative: It's not just that site, it's all over internet what green is!
Liberal: But how do you know they don't consider that orange in another country?

It would be comical if not so sad.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

That is entirely too accurate and simple.

We know there are things that work, securing schools is number one on that list.

Even he admits that but he's still trying to make the case to increase the age to buy a gun. Well if secured school buildings stop people like Ramos, what does it matter if he can legally buy a gun or not?

First I think that the school issue needs to be addressed, and then argue the gun issue later. If they do pass a law (I heard they did in the House) of a 21 year old age limit, it would be hell to get it reversed. You don't let them take that step to gun restrictions because when they don't work, they're going to want another one, then another, then another. That's their plan.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Only when I have to deal with shit for brains dimwitted leftards

Nah, you’re just a typical angry Trumpster.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Even he admits that but he's still trying to make the case to increase the age to buy a gun. Well if secured school buildings stop people like Ramos, what does it matter if he can legally buy a gun or not?

His own link makes that case for me.

18 to 20-year-olds are disproportionately more likely to use guns to murder people.

This is why your fellow conservatives in Florida already passed that law.