Armed security would have stopped transgender school shooter….

[westwall]

That implies work. I am an idea guy and drink coffee.

Stupid ideas maybe.

 

[2aguy]

No.......good guys with guns are on military bases.....well, see my link above.

The Fort Hood shooter attacked a processing center, no guns on site until the military police arrived.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Stupid ideas maybe.

I didn't say they were good ideas. That costs more.

 

[2aguy]

In Texas the state legislature just passed a law making armed guards a requirement for schools. Unfortunately after they made that big show they of course underfunded it.

House Bill 3 mandates armed guards on Texas campuses. Some Fort Worth schools are struggling to find funds to comply | Fort Worth Report

Texas now requires an armed guard at every campus in public school districts and open enrollment charters. Many districts are struggling to meet the demand, saying the state did not provide enough money. Others were able to make budget adjustments to make ends meet.

fortworthreport.org

You don't have to have armed guards, just allow the some staff to carry their legal guns with them, and allow parents to carry their legal guns with them when they are on school grounds.

The unknown number and location of armed good guys keeps the bad guys away.

 

[westwall]

I didn't say they were good ideas. That costs more.

You have to be capable of producing good ideas before you get paid for them.

That's the point.

 

[Mac-7]

You don't have to have armed guards, just allow the some staff to carry their legal guns with them, and allow parents to carry their legal guns with them when they are on school grounds.

The unknown number and location of armed good guys keeps the bad guys away.

I prefer limited access through metal detectors manned by police officers with guns the same as they have at city hall or the county court house

Or if money is tight INSTEAD OF at city hall

But teachers should be armed if they want to

 

[pknopp]

And we didn't get to carry loaded firearms.

They are there.

 

[2aguy]

They are there.

Again.....soldiers do not carry their guns with them on post.

 

[pknopp]

Teachers and parents are not good guys in your world?

I said good guys with guns didn't deter people from opening fire on military bases.

 

[pknopp]

Do you understand that military bases are essentially gun free zones? Only the military police walk around with weapons?

So there are people there walking around with guns and it didn't stop those intent on doing harm.

 

[Mac-7]

I said good guys with guns didn't deter people from opening fire on military bases.

Not every mass murderer is smart enough to know that

But most do

 

[Mac-7]

So there are people there walking around with guns and it didn't stop those intent on doing harm.

It rarely happens on military bases in the US

 

[Dadoalex]

Parkland, one police resource officer for over 12 buildings on campus, the campus was a gun free zone.

The Pulse Nightclub was a gun free zone. The off duty police officer working as the bouncer ran away to call for help when the shooter went in.

The shooter at pulse had originally targeted Disney land/world...but decided against it because...wait for it......there was too much security there....

Watch the Starz documentary series "Active shooter," where they actually talk to people who were in the club during the attack.....you hear them relate time after time where an armed citizen could have shot and killed the attacker......

Uvalde, the building was another gun free zone.......

3 gun free zones, all 3 the government actors who should have done something failed, leaving the victims in the gun free zone helpless.......

Had those 3 sites allowed armed citizens, there would not have been an attack on them...

The presence of an unknown number of armed citizens keeps mass public shooters away.

Armed security in all of those locations.
didn't stop the shooter.
What would stop the shooter is not having a gun.

Just facts.

 

[pknopp]

Not every mass murderer is smart enough to know that

But most do

People intent on killing are going to do so.

 

[pknopp]

It rarely happens on military bases in the US

It rarely happens period.

 

[westwall]

Armed security in all of those locations.
didn't stop the shooter.
What would stop the shooter is not having a gun.

Just facts.

Wrong. Having a gun and USING IT, not running away, is what works.

Dumbass.

 

[Mac-7]

People intent on killing are going to do so.

Exactly

Take away their guns and the crazy people will find another way

 

[Mac-7]

It rarely happens period.

Not to the military or at police stations

 

[pknopp]

Not to the military or at police stations

Cops get ambushed and killed.

 

[hadit]

Neither is the inability of many to afford the health care they need.

See I'm willing to allow people protect themselves from those who fall through the cracks.

Then you should be willing to let teachers be the last line of defense between the children in their care and a shooter at the door to the classroom.

For some odd reason seeing to people's mental health needs is evil to them.

I'd like to know who thinks it's evil to take care of mental health needs. I know of no one that fits that description.