Assholes making trouble in Oregon

[TyroneSlothrop]

They're white Americans. They aren't Muslims, African Americans, or Illegals. So it's probably not gonna end well for em. Hussein's already sentenced them to death. He ain't very big on white folks.

It's open season on White Americans these days. Another wonderful gift from Hussein. He really brought the nation together. So yeah, these people are likely dead meat. God bless em though. They stood up and tried.

 

[paulitician]

They should just claim they're Illegals. Those folks can do anything they want these days. Hussein has given em an unlimited free pass. Just claim you're a poor abused Illegal, then get your freebies and a White House invite.

do you get a discount at the crazy store for buying in bulk?

Just stating the current bizarre reality. It's what your boy Hussein created. It is what it is.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

The 81 St Chairborne .....the Big Yellow One..fighting Obama from day one..

 

[ogibillm]

They should just claim they're Illegals. Those folks can do anything they want these days. Hussein has given em an unlimited free pass. Just claim you're a poor abused Illegal, then get your freebies and a White House invite.

do you get a discount at the crazy store for buying in bulk?

Just stating the current bizarre reality. It's what your boy Hussein created. It is what it is.

so it's a sizable discount

 

[PredFan]

If you really believe in the 2nd Amendment as an absolute right and consider yourself a Patriot then here's your chance to show it. You're been called up and now it's time to put up or shut up. Do you have the balls or do you just run your mouth????

Ammon Bundy posted a video on his Facebook page asking for militia members to come help him. He said "this is not a time to stand down. It's a time to stand up and come to Harney County," where Burns is located. Below the video is this statement: "(asterisk)(asterisk)ALL PATRIOTS ITS TIME TO STAND UP NOT STAND DOWN!!! WE NEED YOUR HELP!!! COME PREPARED."

Militia members occupy US building in Oregon after protest

Pay for my flight up there and I'm in.

Looking for handouts again?

Sure. If the OP wants me to be there, I'll need the air fare.

 

[rightwinger]

Sounds like a bunch of hippies taking over the Deans office

Wait them out and arrest them for trespassing when they finally leave

 

[PredFan]

If you really believe in the 2nd Amendment as an absolute right and consider yourself a Patriot then here's your chance to show it. You're been called up and now it's time to put up or shut up. Do you have the balls or do you just run your mouth????

Ammon Bundy posted a video on his Facebook page asking for militia members to come help him. He said "this is not a time to stand down. It's a time to stand up and come to Harney County," where Burns is located. Below the video is this statement: "(asterisk)(asterisk)ALL PATRIOTS ITS TIME TO STAND UP NOT STAND DOWN!!! WE NEED YOUR HELP!!! COME PREPARED."

Militia members occupy US building in Oregon after protest

Pay for my flight up there and I'm in.

Another welfare case looking for something for free. LOL

Wrong again loser. It's another hard working, over taxed, over regulated American who can't afford to fly all the way to Oregon. If the OP feels so strongly about it, then help a brother out.

 

[peach174]

From what I understand a witness testified to seeing them hunting. Also, a family member testified that he had been given materials and instructed to go light a fire to hide the evidence of poaching. They were not retried on separate charges. What happened is that they were sentenced and served their sentences, but later an appeals court decided their sentences hadn't been long enough.

I don't see any sense in questioning their convictions as if it was some kind of government conspiracy. They were tried by a jury and were found guilty, and I'm not inclined to believe for one moment that 12 jurors decided to jump in on a government plot. I do find it very disturbing that an appeals court can tack on additional prison time after people have served their sentences.

All that being said.....It does not fucking matter!!

There is no justification, no defense, of these terrorists' actions. None. Period.

the judge did not follow the sentencing guidelines. he gave them an invalid sentence

He based it on the 8th Amendment and it was a valid sentence.
Come on - 5 years for trying to protect their land and home from wildfires?

minimum mandatory sentences are constitutional. ignoring them is not.

So you are OK with wanting them to go to jail for 5 years, that stopped wildfires from destroying their land?

not what they did, and yes. they broke the law with a minimum MANDATORY sentence.
how would you feel if a firefighter had died fighting their back fire?

Yes that is what they did.
Now when the Feds burn for wildfire control and it get out of hand no problem.
In 2000, a prescribed burn by the Park Service at the Bandelier National Monument, New Mexico, got out of control and destroyed 280 homes at Los Alamos along with other buildings. Damage was estimated at $1 billion.

 

[bodecea]

Sounds like a bunch of hippies taking over the Deans office

Wait them out and arrest them for trespassing when they finally leave

Build a high fence around the building...keep them in...no one goes in or out...no power...no water...and charge Bundy for the fence.

 

[Moonglow]

If you really believe in the 2nd Amendment as an absolute right and consider yourself a Patriot then here's your chance to show it. You're been called up and now it's time to put up or shut up. Do you have the balls or do you just run your mouth????

Ammon Bundy posted a video on his Facebook page asking for militia members to come help him. He said "this is not a time to stand down. It's a time to stand up and come to Harney County," where Burns is located. Below the video is this statement: "(asterisk)(asterisk)ALL PATRIOTS ITS TIME TO STAND UP NOT STAND DOWN!!! WE NEED YOUR HELP!!! COME PREPARED."

Militia members occupy US building in Oregon after protest

Pay for my flight up there and I'm in.

Another welfare case looking for something for free. LOL

Wrong again loser. It's another hard working, over taxed, over regulated American who can't afford to fly all the way to Oregon. If the OP feels so strongly about it, then help a brother out.

You have two feet and a thumb....

 

[CremeBrulee]

The 81 St Chairborne .....the Big Yellow One..fighting Obama from day one..

No doubt they earned their CIBs (Computer Infantryman's Badge) on the battlefields of cyberspace.

 

[SwimExpert]

These people are not terrorists.
They are ranchers who have been abused by the Feds because the Feds have wanted to get that land since the 1970's.

They don't even fucking live there!

You're a real piece of shit for defending these terrorists. Too bad you weren't in the towers when they came down. We lost real Americans that day. We could have afforded to get rid of you.

You are the one who believes they are terrorists.
All they did was start a backfire that saved their land.

The fuck are you talking about, shit stain? You don't even know what the hell is going on!!

Read up about it most uninformed one.

Listen very carefully cuntstain: The terrorists who seized a federal facility are not the ones who were convicted of arson. They are people who don't even live in the area, who are using the Hammond case as a pretext to engage in armed insurrection against the government.

The Hammonds have been clear in that they don't want help from the Bundy group.

"Neither Ammon Bundy nor anyone within his group/organization speak for the Hammond family," the Hammonds' attorney W. Alan Schroeder wrote to Harney County Sheriff David Ward.

Armed group takes over Oregon wildlife refuge building - CNN.com

“These men came to Harney County claiming to be part of militia groups supporting local ranchers,” Ward said in a statement Sunday. “When in reality these men had alternative motives, to attempt to overthrow the county and federal government in hopes to spark a movement across the United States.”

Armed men, led by Bundy brothers, take over federal building in rural Oregon

 

[Manonthestreet]

Ore. ranchers at center of protest expected to report to prison

That report is inaccurate in several things.
1st they did the burn on their property with permission then it got out of hand and burned the Federal land.
2nd they retried them on another charge without a new trial or jury.

From what I understand a witness testified to seeing them hunting. Also, a family member testified that he had been given materials and instructed to go light a fire to hide the evidence of poaching. They were not retried on separate charges. What happened is that they were sentenced and served their sentences, but later an appeals court decided their sentences hadn't been long enough.

I don't see any sense in questioning their convictions as if it was some kind of government conspiracy. They were tried by a jury and were found guilty, and I'm not inclined to believe for one moment that 12 jurors decided to jump in on a government plot. I do find it very disturbing that an appeals court can tack on additional prison time after people have served their sentences.

All that being said.....It does not fucking matter!!

There is no justification, no defense, of these terrorists' actions. None. Period.

Without local support they've alrdy lost the PR battle. Nobody is going to care if the people on scene don't care
At Bundy ranch I think there was govt illegalities that could not stand light of day and thus they left. I would be in favor of their dispersal and or arrest.
I wouldn't give them the show they want either. Simply send one guy in tell em anybody here tomorrow is going to jail.

 

[PredFan]

If you really believe in the 2nd Amendment as an absolute right and consider yourself a Patriot then here's your chance to show it. You're been called up and now it's time to put up or shut up. Do you have the balls or do you just run your mouth????

Ammon Bundy posted a video on his Facebook page asking for militia members to come help him. He said "this is not a time to stand down. It's a time to stand up and come to Harney County," where Burns is located. Below the video is this statement: "(asterisk)(asterisk)ALL PATRIOTS ITS TIME TO STAND UP NOT STAND DOWN!!! WE NEED YOUR HELP!!! COME PREPARED."

Militia members occupy US building in Oregon after protest

Pay for my flight up there and I'm in.

Another welfare case looking for something for free. LOL

Wrong again loser. It's another hard working, over taxed, over regulated American who can't afford to fly all the way to Oregon. If the OP feels so strongly about it, then help a brother out.

You have two feet and a thumb....

And a brain, which you obviously lack.

 

[Moonglow]

If you really believe in the 2nd Amendment as an absolute right and consider yourself a Patriot then here's your chance to show it. You're been called up and now it's time to put up or shut up. Do you have the balls or do you just run your mouth????

Militia members occupy US building in Oregon after protest

Pay for my flight up there and I'm in.

Another welfare case looking for something for free. LOL

Wrong again loser. It's another hard working, over taxed, over regulated American who can't afford to fly all the way to Oregon. If the OP feels so strongly about it, then help a brother out.

You have two feet and a thumb....

And a brain, which you obviously lack.

In which pocket is it?

 

[Skull Pilot]

They can be called nothing short.

The occupation is being led by hard-core militia who adopted the Hammond cause as their own.

Ammon Bundy met with Dwight Hammond and his wife in November, seeking a way to keep the elderly rancher from having to surrender for prison. The Hammonds professed through their attorneys that they had no interest in ignoring the order to report for prison.


Ammon Bundy said the goal is to turn over federal land to local ranchers, loggers and miners. He said he met with 10 or so residents in Burns on Friday to try to recruit them, but they declined.

Militia takes over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge headquarters

you do realize that it's an empty building in the middle of nowhere don't you?

It's not "headquarters " for anything

 

[bodecea]

They can be called nothing short.

The occupation is being led by hard-core militia who adopted the Hammond cause as their own.

Ammon Bundy met with Dwight Hammond and his wife in November, seeking a way to keep the elderly rancher from having to surrender for prison. The Hammonds professed through their attorneys that they had no interest in ignoring the order to report for prison.


Ammon Bundy said the goal is to turn over federal land to local ranchers, loggers and miners. He said he met with 10 or so residents in Burns on Friday to try to recruit them, but they declined.

Militia takes over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge headquarters

you do realize that it's an empty building in the middle of nowhere don't you?

It's not "headquarters " for anything

It c
An be THEIR headquarters. With a fence around it keeping them in.

 

[rightwinger]

Looks like a protest to me. Dunno what kind of crack the op is smokin?

Seems to be peaceful protest so far....Armed "peaceful protest"

Lets see where it goes and prosecute as necessary

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

The Politburo of Teabilly Mockery has started a "Pork Rind to Patriots" program requesting all to send bags of Pork Rinds to the brave besieged Teabilly balsa wood dildos holding out in Oregon against the "Obama Tyranny" ....

 

[SwimExpert]

Ore. ranchers at center of protest expected to report to prison

That report is inaccurate in several things.
1st they did the burn on their property with permission then it got out of hand and burned the Federal land.
2nd they retried them on another charge without a new trial or jury.

From what I understand a witness testified to seeing them hunting. Also, a family member testified that he had been given materials and instructed to go light a fire to hide the evidence of poaching. They were not retried on separate charges. What happened is that they were sentenced and served their sentences, but later an appeals court decided their sentences hadn't been long enough.

I don't see any sense in questioning their convictions as if it was some kind of government conspiracy. They were tried by a jury and were found guilty, and I'm not inclined to believe for one moment that 12 jurors decided to jump in on a government plot. I do find it very disturbing that an appeals court can tack on additional prison time after people have served their sentences.

All that being said.....It does not fucking matter!!

There is no justification, no defense, of these terrorists' actions. None. Period.

Without local support they've alrdy lost the PR battle. Nobody is going to care if the people on scene don't care
At Bundy ranch I think there was govt illegalities that could not stand light of day and thus they left. I would be in favor of their dispersal and or arrest.
I wouldn't give them the show they want either. Simply send one guy in tell em anybody here tomorrow is going to jail.

An article I read earlier today quoted a law enforcement expert as also emphasizing that avoiding a "show" is going to be necessary. It makes alot of sense. But you have to then figure out a way to convince them to leave on their own power. They're willing to fight to stop anyone from removing them.