Assholes making trouble in Oregon

[Blackrook]

This is a direct challenge to the federal government, and is far more serious than a terrorist attack or a riot. Obama will have no clue what to do.

 

[Tilly]

Two ranchers accidently burn some brush and the Liberals call it terrorism. A few hundred Black Lives Matter protesters intentionally burn a couple city blocks and they call it justice.

How fucked up is that?

You are playing down what they were convicted of. This is lightly populated county and the ranchers were convicted by a jury made up of the local folks. The government alone did not convict them. Their neighbors convicted them. Add the fact that they have accepted the ruling of the court and disavowed any relationship to the people who have taken over the wildlife refuge and a more accurate assessment can be made. The domestic terrorists are not speaking for the ranchers or the people who live in that area.

Do you think someones neighbours should be on their jury?

 

[Agit8r]

Armed white guys take over federal building demanding free stuff! Blames "The Man" for their lot in life.

Whats the "free stuff" they're demanding?

They don't want to buy hay, so they graze their herds illegally on land that belongs to the American taxpayer. They want to be the landed aristocracy that real patriots fought a revolution to abolish.

 

[J.E.D]

• Send Pork rinds ASAP
  
• This Anti-Government Oregon Terrorist Took Thousands In Government Money
  
  One of the ringleaders of the terror-minded militia group who are illegally occupying a National Park service building got a six figure loan from the government...
  
  January 4, 2016, 8:46 pm
• Anti-Government Terrorists Forgot Snacks, Want You To Send Via U.S. Mail
  
  On Thursday Blaine Cooper, one of the anti-government terrorists who is participating in the armed takeover of a bird sanctuary in Oregon, put out a call...

"We don't want your money", but, if you go to this website, there's a donation tab.

How many USMB Vanilla ISIS sympathizer suckers have given up cigarette money for the week to support these Patriots?

 

[aaronleland]

This is a direct challenge to the federal government, and is far more serious than a terrorist attack or a riot. Obama will have no clue what to do.

In fairness, it wouldn't be an easy decision for anybody to make. The federal government is forced to walk a fine line on this one. The last thing they want is a repeat of Waco, and in turn another Oklahoma City. You are correct that they don't seem to know what the hell to do at this point. In the end they may be forced to take aggressive action, and hope for the best.

 

[Agit8r]

This is a direct challenge to the federal government, and is far more serious than a terrorist attack or a riot. Obama will have no clue what to do.

In fairness, it wouldn't be an easy decision for anybody to make. The federal government is forced to walk a fine line on this one. The last thing they want is a repeat of Waco, and in turn another Oklahoma City. You are correct that they don't seem to know what the hell to do at this point. In the end they may be forced to take aggressive action, and hope for the best.

I'm sure that it will eventually come to a point where law enforcement seals the perimeter and starves them out. They forgot to bring snacks after all.

 

[Geaux4it]

I wonder what would happen if the BLM supporters had been as well armed as Bundy's supporters when they protested? Think a race war would have broken out?

If blacks clean up their act, maybe things will change

-Geaux

 

[Geaux4it]

I wonder what would happen if the BLM supporters had been as well armed as Bundy's supporters when they protested? Think a race war would have broken out?

Another issue is'

BLM is protesting against white cops

Oregon is a protest against the government

-Geaux

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

 

[Camp]

Two ranchers accidently burn some brush and the Liberals call it terrorism. A few hundred Black Lives Matter protesters intentionally burn a couple city blocks and they call it justice.

How fucked up is that?

You are playing down what they were convicted of. This is lightly populated county and the ranchers were convicted by a jury made up of the local folks. The government alone did not convict them. Their neighbors convicted them. Add the fact that they have accepted the ruling of the court and disavowed any relationship to the people who have taken over the wildlife refuge and a more accurate assessment can be made. The domestic terrorists are not speaking for the ranchers or the people who live in that area.

Do you think someones neighbours should be on their jury?

Not if they know them personally. By neighbors, I mean people who live in that community or area. I do not mean the people who live in the house next door. In a sparsely populated like the area in question everyone becomes your "neighbor".

 

[ogibillm]

Good to see the media is giving them all the attention they want...

The Oregonian has ignored the issue for decades. They have nothing but contempt for the people who live in the far reaches.

the 'issue' isn't decades old

 

[ogibillm]

Cruz urges armed protesters in Oregon to 'stand down' Cruz urges armed protesters in Oregon to 'stand down'

Well the law of averages finally came through. I agree with Ted Cruz on something.

As a freshman at Columbia University in 1970, future Attorney General Eric Holder participated in a five-day occupation of an abandoned Naval Reserve Officer Training Corps (ROTC) headquarters with a group of black students later described by the university’s Black Students’ Organization as “armed,” The Daily Caller has learned. As college student, Eric Holder participated in ‘armed’ takeover of former Columbia University ROTC office

not a government building

 

[Old Rocks]

I hope you're kidding.

No way! It's about time somebody had the nuts to stand up to the bully federal government!

Think about what you have.....a disavowed effort by the defendant...... god knows who straggling in as "militiamen", no clear chain of who's calling the shots, probable FED agents mixed in, would you join, put your life and reputation in hands of people you dont know........

Where did I say I was going to "join" them? I'm on the other side of the country for one thing. For another thing, I like that they are giving the federal government shit. They need to know that they do not call the shots. WE the people call the shots. They work for US and do what we say. They have gotten MUCH too big and much too powerful and need to be taken down a few notches at least.

Didnt say you were....asked if you would.....while some of that maybe true the PR battle was lost minute defendant disavowed the effort, thus the effort itself will never be perceived as legitimate. Add in clusterfuck organization and you have a ready made disaster useful to discredit any future efforts that might actually be more necessary than this.

Well I disagree. I think that more people will be willing to stand up for themselves against the all powerful federal government after witnessing this little "situation."

And you are out of your ever lovin' little mind. These people are cowardly bullies. No one wants them in Harney County. They could not get any citizens of Harney County to go with them on this whacked out venture. They are outsiders, and only wish for bloodshed.

Given that they have committed criminal trespass, sedition, as defined by the law, and various other crimes, they all should be spend many years in the iron bar hotel when this is over.

 

[ogibillm]

Articles: Distrust of federal land agencies escalates with conviction of Oregon ranchers. The fires were beneficial to wildlife, and the prosecutors lied. The Hammonds pled for a lighter sentence in return for their promise not to contest...which they did not. It's time for war. Our judicial and executive branches are thoroughly corrupted.

you just can't wait for an excuse to kill Americans, can you? why do you hate thie constitution so much?

 

[Old Rocks]

Two ranchers accidently burn some brush and the Liberals call it terrorism. A few hundred Black Lives Matter protesters intentionally burn a couple city blocks and they call it justice.

How fucked up is that?

You are playing down what they were convicted of. This is lightly populated county and the ranchers were convicted by a jury made up of the local folks. The government alone did not convict them. Their neighbors convicted them. Add the fact that they have accepted the ruling of the court and disavowed any relationship to the people who have taken over the wildlife refuge and a more accurate assessment can be made. The domestic terrorists are not speaking for the ranchers or the people who live in that area.

Do you think someones neighbours should be on their jury?

A jury of your peers, silly ass.

 

[Old Rocks]

<snip> However, there aren't many in the way of black survivalists.

Not at all true. But the race card does not at all belong here, TyroneSlothrop .

Maybe you forgot about John Brown, a white man:

John Brown (abolitionist) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

who with his armed folks took over an armory to try to arm Africans to help overthrow the slavery system.

John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And was quite properly hung for his efforts. Same should apply for these assholes.

Now you want them hanged?

If someone get killed out of this insanity, yes.

 

[peach174]

<snip> However, there aren't many in the way of black survivalists.

Not at all true. But the race card does not at all belong here, TyroneSlothrop .

Maybe you forgot about John Brown, a white man:

John Brown (abolitionist) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

who with his armed folks took over an armory to try to arm Africans to help overthrow the slavery system.

John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And was quite properly hung for his efforts. Same should apply for these assholes.

Now you want them hanged?

If someone get killed out of this insanity, yes.

Same thing was said when they were in Nevada, but no one got hurt and the Feds backed down.

 

[ogibillm]

<snip> However, there aren't many in the way of black survivalists.

Not at all true. But the race card does not at all belong here, TyroneSlothrop .

Maybe you forgot about John Brown, a white man:

John Brown (abolitionist) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

who with his armed folks took over an armory to try to arm Africans to help overthrow the slavery system.

John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And was quite properly hung for his efforts. Same should apply for these assholes.

Now you want them hanged?

If someone get killed out of this insanity, yes.

Same thing was said when they were in Nevada, but no one got hurt and the Feds backed down.

do you think that's over?

 

[Old Rocks]

<snip> However, there aren't many in the way of black survivalists.

Not at all true. But the race card does not at all belong here, TyroneSlothrop .

Maybe you forgot about John Brown, a white man:

John Brown (abolitionist) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

who with his armed folks took over an armory to try to arm Africans to help overthrow the slavery system.

John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And was quite properly hung for his efforts. Same should apply for these assholes.

Now you want them hanged?

If someone get killed out of this insanity, yes.

Same thing was said when they were in Nevada, but no one got hurt and the Feds backed down.

This is Oregon, not Nevada. If the Feds were to back down, the locals will not. And things might get rather messy. These are outsiders, causing big trouble, and threatening people with guns. It was time for them to leave before they got there.

 

[Old Rocks]

I wonder what would happen if the BLM supporters had been as well armed as Bundy's supporters when they protested? Think a race war would have broken out?

The difference of course is that the militia aren't attacking anybody. And the Harney county group are protesting specific tyrannical actions...not just 'bad police arrests us when we loot!'

Really? Is that why they have totally changed their demands? The Hammond's and all of Harney County want nothing to do with the assholes. They have threatened the local Sheriff, and committed sedition. They are unwanted outsiders, and need to face full charged for their criminal actions.