Assholes making trouble in Oregon

[ogibillm]

Now you want them hanged?

If someone get killed out of this insanity, yes.

Same thing was said when they were in Nevada, but no one got hurt and the Feds backed down.

This is Oregon, not Nevada. If the Feds were to back down, the locals will not. And things might get rather messy. These are outsiders, causing big trouble, and threatening people with guns. It was time for them to leave before they got there.

They haven't threatened anybody lol and the people of burns despise the Fed's, with good cause. They support these people and are praying for them. Or is a progressive city dwelling douche who, like most progressives, wants the government to steal land and keep the locals away from it so people like him can come and occasionally camp or ride bikes through. He's a dumbass that has no authority to speak for the people of Harney county. He's just a milquetoast dumbass.

Supply a VALID link stating that the Townspeople support the outsiders coming-in and basically disrupting these peoples lives.

im sure they are all very happy that the school had to be shut down over safety concerns

 

[Dot Com]

<snip> A jury of their peers convicted the Hammond's of setting those fires. They would not have done so without very convincing evidence.<snip>

Not quite true. Harney county and therefore the state of Oregon did not file charges, therefore the Feds did and used a terrorist law from 1996, making them just not arsonists, but terrorists.

Or is a proven liar. Oregon and their peers gave them a token sentence. A crazy Obama appointee came in later and appealed the sentence and added to it. The appointee quit for mental health reasons after stalking, and taking a hit out on, another attorney.

they were convicted of a crime that carried a MANDATORY MINIMUM sentence.

why do you support judicial activism?

yeah kgrill?

As to the OP, those tards are down to their last twinkie no doubt

 

[peach174]

Now you want them hanged?

If someone get killed out of this insanity, yes.

Same thing was said when they were in Nevada, but no one got hurt and the Feds backed down.

This is Oregon, not Nevada. If the Feds were to back down, the locals will not. And things might get rather messy. These are outsiders, causing big trouble, and threatening people with guns. It was time for them to leave before they got there.

They haven't threatened anybody lol and the people of burns despise the Fed's, with good cause. They support these people and are praying for them. Or is a progressive city dwelling douche who, like most progressives, wants the government to steal land and keep the locals away from it so people like him can come and occasionally camp or ride bikes through. He's a dumbass that has no authority to speak for the people of Harney county. He's just a milquetoast dumbass.

nobody is stealing land. dumbass.

Yes they are.
They are doing it in N. Texas right now just so that BLM can manage the red river.
BLM Claims 90,000 Acres Does Not Belong To Texas, Attempts To Seize Ranch
They did it to all the other ranchers in Nevada just so they could have more turtle habitat.
They are now doing it to the Hammords hoping that the old man could die in prison in 4 years.
Western Ranchers have had enough of the BLM thugs.

 

[Camp]

The ranchers who started the fires and were convicted of arson had their own friends and family testifying that they started the fire to cover-up deer poaching. Here is the government version:
www.justice.gov/usao-or/pr/eastern-oregon-ranchers-convicted-arson-resentenced-five-years-prison
Bad link fixed. Works now.

 

[Iceweasel]

This whole thing has to have conservative's heads exploding. They whine da...

If you really think that...

YOU'VE BEEN SCHLONGED!

 

[jon_berzerk]

The ranchers who started the fires and were convicted of arson had their own friends and family testifying that they started the fire to cover-up deer poaching. Here is the government version:
www.justice.gov/usao-or/eastern-oregon-ranchers-convicted-arson-resentenced-five-years-prison

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[ogibillm]

If someone get killed out of this insanity, yes.

Same thing was said when they were in Nevada, but no one got hurt and the Feds backed down.

This is Oregon, not Nevada. If the Feds were to back down, the locals will not. And things might get rather messy. These are outsiders, causing big trouble, and threatening people with guns. It was time for them to leave before they got there.

They haven't threatened anybody lol and the people of burns despise the Fed's, with good cause. They support these people and are praying for them. Or is a progressive city dwelling douche who, like most progressives, wants the government to steal land and keep the locals away from it so people like him can come and occasionally camp or ride bikes through. He's a dumbass that has no authority to speak for the people of Harney county. He's just a milquetoast dumbass.

nobody is stealing land. dumbass.

Yes they are.
They are doing it in N. Texas right now just so that BLM can manage the red river.
BLM Claims 90,000 Acres Does Not Belong To Texas, Attempts To Seize Ranch
They did it to all the other ranchers in Nevada just so they could have more turtle habitat.
They are now doing it to the Hammords hoping that the old man could die in prison in 4 years.
Western Ranchers have had enough of the BLM thugs.

pretty sure most of those claims are bunk, but i know for sure that the hammonds troubles have nothing to do with anyone grabbing their land

 

[koshergrl]

The ranchers who started the fires and were convicted of arson had their own friends and family testifying that they started the fire to cover-up deer poaching. Here is the government version:
www.justice.gov/usao-or/eastern-oregon-ranchers-convicted-arson-resentenced-five-years-prison

page not found

I found it.

 

[peach174]

If someone get killed out of this insanity, yes.

Same thing was said when they were in Nevada, but no one got hurt and the Feds backed down.

This is Oregon, not Nevada. If the Feds were to back down, the locals will not. And things might get rather messy. These are outsiders, causing big trouble, and threatening people with guns. It was time for them to leave before they got there.

They haven't threatened anybody lol and the people of burns despise the Fed's, with good cause. They support these people and are praying for them. Or is a progressive city dwelling douche who, like most progressives, wants the government to steal land and keep the locals away from it so people like him can come and occasionally camp or ride bikes through. He's a dumbass that has no authority to speak for the people of Harney county. He's just a milquetoast dumbass.

Supply a VALID link stating that the Townspeople support the outsiders coming-in and basically disrupting these peoples lives.

im sure they are all very happy that the school had to be shut down over safety concerns

A bunch of hysterical libs overreacting.
There is absolutely no reason they should have shut down the schools.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Armed white guys take over federal building demanding free stuff! Blames "The Man" for their lot in life.

Whats the "free stuff" they're demanding?

They don't want to buy hay, so they graze their herds illegally on land that belongs to the American taxpayer. They want to be the landed aristocracy that real patriots fought a revolution to abolish.

Er no, this is not about grazing rights.

Rights? Do I have the right to buy a cow or two and graze them in Golden Gate Park. How about goats, goats are cool and will eat most anything, I could graze them at the Hall of Flowers in GG Park, it's public land!

 

[jon_berzerk]

The ranchers who started the fires and were convicted of arson had their own friends and family testifying that they started the fire to cover-up deer poaching. Here is the government version:
www.justice.gov/usao-or/eastern-oregon-ranchers-convicted-arson-resentenced-five-years-prison

page not found

I found it.

maybe i am blocked


Page not found

 

[Camp]

The ranchers who started the fires and were convicted of arson had their own friends and family testifying that they started the fire to cover-up deer poaching. Here is the government version:
www.justice.gov/usao-or/eastern-oregon-ranchers-convicted-arson-resentenced-five-years-prison

page not found

Sorry, I repaired the bad link in the original post, but here it is again.

www.justice.gov/usao-or/pr/eastern-oregon-ranchers-convicted-arson-resentenced-five-years-prison

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Armed white guys take over federal building demanding free stuff! Blames "The Man" for their lot in life.

Whats the "free stuff" they're demanding?

They don't want to buy hay, so they graze their herds illegally on land that belongs to the American taxpayer. They want to be the landed aristocracy that real patriots fought a revolution to abolish.

Er no, this is not about grazing rights.

Well?

koshergrl

What do they want?

Besides toilet paper, I mean.

 

[koshergrl]

Same thing was said when they were in Nevada, but no one got hurt and the Feds backed down.

This is Oregon, not Nevada. If the Feds were to back down, the locals will not. And things might get rather messy. These are outsiders, causing big trouble, and threatening people with guns. It was time for them to leave before they got there.

They haven't threatened anybody lol and the people of burns despise the Fed's, with good cause. They support these people and are praying for them. Or is a progressive city dwelling douche who, like most progressives, wants the government to steal land and keep the locals away from it so people like him can come and occasionally camp or ride bikes through. He's a dumbass that has no authority to speak for the people of Harney county. He's just a milquetoast dumbass.

Supply a VALID link stating that the Townspeople support the outsiders coming-in and basically disrupting these peoples lives.

im sure they are all very happy that the school had to be shut down over safety concerns

A bunch of hysterical libs overreacting.
There is absolutely no reason they should have shut down the schools.

They're afraid a progressive zealot will get worked up and target their kids.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Armed white guys take over federal building demanding free stuff! Blames "The Man" for their lot in life.

Whats the "free stuff" they're demanding?

They don't want to buy hay, so they graze their herds illegally on land that belongs to the American taxpayer. They want to be the landed aristocracy that real patriots fought a revolution to abolish.

Er no, this is not about grazing rights.

Rights? Do I have the right to buy a cow or two and graze them in Golden Gate Park. How about goats, goats are cool and will eat most anything, I could graze them at the Hall of Flowers in GG Park, it's public land!

A very real plus about these idiotic shenanigans is that it calls attention to welfare ranching.

They already get huge tax subsidies but they want the land for free.

 

[koshergrl]

<snip> A jury of their peers convicted the Hammond's of setting those fires. They would not have done so without very convincing evidence.<snip>

Not quite true. Harney county and therefore the state of Oregon did not file charges, therefore the Feds did and used a terrorist law from 1996, making them just not arsonists, but terrorists.

Or is a proven liar. Oregon and their peers gave them a token sentence. A crazy Obama appointee came in later and appealed the sentence and added to it. The appointee quit for mental health reasons after stalking, and taking a hit out on, another attorney.

they were convicted of a crime that carried a MANDATORY MINIMUM sentence.

why do you support judicial activism?

The judge ruled that the mandatory minimum in this case was unconstitutional, based on a lack of intent and zero property damage. The judicial activism was on the part of the ninth. It's what they're notorious for.

 

[koshergrl]

Again, it's not about grazing rights. You guys don't have a whole brain between you.

 

[peach174]

Same thing was said when they were in Nevada, but no one got hurt and the Feds backed down.

This is Oregon, not Nevada. If the Feds were to back down, the locals will not. And things might get rather messy. These are outsiders, causing big trouble, and threatening people with guns. It was time for them to leave before they got there.

They haven't threatened anybody lol and the people of burns despise the Fed's, with good cause. They support these people and are praying for them. Or is a progressive city dwelling douche who, like most progressives, wants the government to steal land and keep the locals away from it so people like him can come and occasionally camp or ride bikes through. He's a dumbass that has no authority to speak for the people of Harney county. He's just a milquetoast dumbass.

nobody is stealing land. dumbass.

Yes they are.
They are doing it in N. Texas right now just so that BLM can manage the red river.
BLM Claims 90,000 Acres Does Not Belong To Texas, Attempts To Seize Ranch
They did it to all the other ranchers in Nevada just so they could have more turtle habitat.
They are now doing it to the Hammords hoping that the old man could die in prison in 4 years.
Western Ranchers have had enough of the BLM thugs.

pretty sure most of those claims are bunk, but i know for sure that the hammonds troubles have nothing to do with anyone grabbing their land

NO they are not bunk.
I know quite a few ranchers here in S.Arizona who have had to fight the BLM thugs.
My Husband used to work for a ranch in the early 1980's. BLM tried to take his ranch. He was a rich land owner and a Doctor, so he took them to court and won. Most don't have the money to do this.

Here is the history of how BLM got all of the other ranchers out around the Hammonds ranch.
Almost the same story with all of the ranchers who lived around the Bundy's ranch.
Full Story About What's Going on In Oregon - "Militia" Take Over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge In Protest to Hammond Family Persecution...

In 1964 the Hammonds’ purchased their ranch in the Harney Basin. The purchase included approximately 6000 acres of private property, 4 grazing rights on public land, a small ranch house and 3 water rights. The ranch is around 53 miles South of Burns, Oregon.

By the 1970’s nearly all the ranches adjacent to the Blitzen Valley were purchased by the US Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) and added to the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. The refuge covers over 187,000 acres, stretches over 45 miles long and 37 miles wide. The expansion of the refuge grew and surrounds to the Hammond’s ranch. Approached many times by the FWS, the Hammonds refused to sell. Other ranchers also choose not to sell.

During the 1970’s the Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS), in conjunction with the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), took a different approach to get the ranchers to sell. Ranchers were told: “grazing was detrimental to wildlife and must be reduced”; 32 out of 53 permits were revoked and many ranchers were forced to leave. Grazing fees were raised significantly for those who were allowed to remain. Refuge personnel took over the irrigation system claiming it as their own.

By 1980 a conflict was well on its way over water allocations on the adjacent privately owned Silvies Plain. The FWS wanted to acquire the ranch lands on the Silvies Plain to add to their already vast holdings. Refuge personnel intentionally diverted the water bypassing the vast meadow lands, directing the water into the rising Malheur Lakes. Within a few short years the surface area of the lakes doubled. Thirty-one ranches on the Silvies plains were flooded. Homes, corrals, barns and graze-land were washed a way and destroyed. The ranchers who once fought to keep the FWS from taking their land, now broke and destroyed, begged the FWS to acquire their useless ranches. In 1989 the waters began to recede; now the once thriving privately owned Silvies plains are a proud part of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge claimed by the FWS.

This is just one story out of thousands of BLM and the Justice system of abuse.

For 40 years the Feds have abused their power in order to get more land for what they want and the people have had enough of it.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Again, it's not about grazing rights. You guys don't have a whole brain between you.

And yet, you can't say what they want.

Yeah, right.

You like to pretend you know everything about everything but when you're called on your know-it-all posts, you disappear or don't answer.

 

[koshergrl]

Again, it's not about grazing rights. You guys don't have a whole brain between you.

And yet, you can't say what they want.

Yeah, right.

You like to pretend you know everything about everything but when you're called on your know-it-all posts, you disappear or don't answer.

They want the Fed's to surrender the property they stole to state control.