At this moment, this Presidency is not going well

[Third Party]

Not that it really matters to some, but we're not really in a good place at the moment. Things could turn, and most of us continue to hope for the best. But, as of early morning, August 24, here we are:

The Economy
While the unemployment figures look very good on their face, they are clearly not translating to growth, especially at the cost of the exploding deficit that temporarily goosed the economy. GDP is currently at 2.1%, but we can certainly remain hopeful that it will reverse course and increase. There have been spotty signs that growth-push inflation may be ticking up, but the trade war is clearly effecting sentiment (not to mention data) at a terribly delicate moment. Right now, this is a decent economy, at best, with consumers lacking the resources to push it and their household debt above 2008 levels.

Trade With China
Our President doesn't appear to understand that China is paying attention. They realize quite well that he's trying to bully them into a trade deal, like an eight-year old boy trying to bully another child out of their lunch at the playground. Meanwhile, Trump exhibits zero (0) understanding of the fact that China can theoretically out-wait us here, since they don't have those pesky elections to worry about all that much if the populace gets pissed off. While anything is certainly possible, it's tough to imagine China making any long term commitments until after they see who they're dealing with in January of 2021.

International Relations
Our President has not only isolated himself and his country from the rest of the world with his actions, but also with his petulant behaviors. Even for those of us who have done all we can to lower our standards and expectations of his child-like behavior, the thought of this goofy, pointless dust-up with Denmark (Denmark!) makes us wonder if this man can get along with anyone outside his base. Meanwhile, the crazy fat kid in North Korea is shooting off rockets like he's in charge of the Fourth of July celebration at the park. Like China, the world is clearly looking ahead, with hope, to November 2020.

The Wall
Trump's signature, paranoid, shallow, hyper-simplistic election issue piece isn't exactly flying up with checks to pay for it coming in from Mexico. Even with the White House, House and Senate, this President wasn't able to do much more than slap up a few new two by fours to fix some areas of our existing wall. Any completely "new" wall is spotty at best, and now he's ready to steal cash from one place to placate his base with a few miles of a much less Trumpish wall here and there. Gee, great, so much for that idea. I guess "Build! The! Wall!" could still serve as a standby rally chant when needed.

Race
Well, examining this topic is most likely a waste of time here, since there are many on this board who are telling us that racism no longer exists, or it's fake news, or that if you don't show up to work wearing a white hood you can't be a racist. What a disaster. And minorities are supposed to ignore all of it, because the unemployment rate is down at the moment. While the sycophants continue to run interference for the President Who Doesn't Know Who David Duke is, the rest of the country and the rest of the world are simply not buying the bullshit. But it sure sounds good on talk radio.

The silver lining? By far the most "successful" component of the Trump years will probably turn out to be the courts. The SC is in good shape for them, and they now have the added bonus of hoping that Ruth is quickly ravaged by cancer and dies soon. Ditto (no pun intended) for the lower courts, the nominations of which don't make much news but sure look like Sean Hannity picked 'em.

Could the economy turn back up? Yes, definitely, hopefully, but some kind of GOOD trade deal with China is now pretty much mandatory for that to happen. The Courts are the Courts. They'll probably be able to gather enough Lego™ blocks to build enough of a wall somewhere to keep talk radio and the base happy. International Relations? Race Relations? Pffffft. Who cares. Fake news.
.

Sounds like Mac needs a hug.

Yes, I appreciate his effort though I don't agree with his positions or conclusions

 

[Mac1958]

Not that it really matters to some, but we're not really in a good place at the moment. Things could turn, and most of us continue to hope for the best. But, as of early morning, August 24, here we are:

The Economy
While the unemployment figures look very good on their face, they are clearly not translating to growth, especially at the cost of the exploding deficit that temporarily goosed the economy. GDP is currently at 2.1%, but we can certainly remain hopeful that it will reverse course and increase. There have been spotty signs that growth-push inflation may be ticking up, but the trade war is clearly effecting sentiment (not to mention data) at a terribly delicate moment. Right now, this is a decent economy, at best, with consumers lacking the resources to push it and their household debt above 2008 levels.

Trade With China
Our President doesn't appear to understand that China is paying attention. They realize quite well that he's trying to bully them into a trade deal, like an eight-year old boy trying to bully another child out of their lunch at the playground. Meanwhile, Trump exhibits zero (0) understanding of the fact that China can theoretically out-wait us here, since they don't have those pesky elections to worry about all that much if the populace gets pissed off. While anything is certainly possible, it's tough to imagine China making any long term commitments until after they see who they're dealing with in January of 2021.

International Relations
Our President has not only isolated himself and his country from the rest of the world with his actions, but also with his petulant behaviors. Even for those of us who have done all we can to lower our standards and expectations of his child-like behavior, the thought of this goofy, pointless dust-up with Denmark (Denmark!) makes us wonder if this man can get along with anyone outside his base. Meanwhile, the crazy fat kid in North Korea is shooting off rockets like he's in charge of the Fourth of July celebration at the park. Like China, the world is clearly looking ahead, with hope, to November 2020.

The Wall
Trump's signature, paranoid, shallow, hyper-simplistic election issue piece isn't exactly flying up with checks to pay for it coming in from Mexico. Even with the White House, House and Senate, this President wasn't able to do much more than slap up a few new two by fours to fix some areas of our existing wall. Any completely "new" wall is spotty at best, and now he's ready to steal cash from one place to placate his base with a few miles of a much less Trumpish wall here and there. Gee, great, so much for that idea. I guess "Build! The! Wall!" could still serve as a standby rally chant when needed.

Race
Well, examining this topic is most likely a waste of time here, since there are many on this board who are telling us that racism no longer exists, or it's fake news, or that if you don't show up to work wearing a white hood you can't be a racist. What a disaster. And minorities are supposed to ignore all of it, because the unemployment rate is down at the moment. While the sycophants continue to run interference for the President Who Doesn't Know Who David Duke is, the rest of the country and the rest of the world are simply not buying the bullshit. But it sure sounds good on talk radio.

The silver lining? By far the most "successful" component of the Trump years will probably turn out to be the courts. The SC is in good shape for them, and they now have the added bonus of hoping that Ruth is quickly ravaged by cancer and dies soon. Ditto (no pun intended) for the lower courts, the nominations of which don't make much news but sure look like Sean Hannity picked 'em.

Could the economy turn back up? Yes, definitely, hopefully, but some kind of GOOD trade deal with China is now pretty much mandatory for that to happen. The Courts are the Courts. They'll probably be able to gather enough Lego™ blocks to build enough of a wall somewhere to keep talk radio and the base happy. International Relations? Race Relations? Pffffft. Who cares. Fake news.
.

Sounds like Mac needs a hug.

Sounds like you can't deny any of my points.
.

 

[jc456]

I don't support blobs or invaders-that should be clear-there is a law against aiding criminals-are you a criminal enabler?

What is clear is that you’re a dumbass.

The kids had no say-so in coming here shit-brains!

So now that they are here and are being detained….I think we should supply them with soap and toothpaste. It is what a human being would do.

Clearly you’re not human…what the fuck are you?

Who cares? you’re mad at the wrong people. But you really don’t care about them. If you did you would be bitching for asylum charges so the kids don’t get hijacked through deserts by sex offenders. But you’re not, you’re for killing babies in the womb

You’re against giving a kid soap and toothpaste.
How you’ll explain your bizarre inhumanity to your family is a mystery.

where's your evidence they aren't getting those items?

BTW, I don't play your shame game, so take that aspect of your post and shove it up the bottom hole.

I thought the problem was cages, not toothpaste-could the media be distorting things?

I want to know why they didn't bring their own? that implies they didn't have any, so they weren't brushing their teeth in their own land, now we need to help them when they won't help themselves? to fking funny the shame game. He's going, I'm more moral than you are, I'm more moral than you, shame on you for being who you are, bad people. I'm laughing so hard at that.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I want to know why they didn't bring their own?

Well, then you are a moron.

 

[jc456]

I want to know why they didn't bring their own?

Well, then you are a moron.

you don't travel with your toothbrush and I'm the moron?

 

[sealybobo]

Not that it really matters to some, but we're not really in a good place at the moment. Things could turn, and most of us continue to hope for the best. But, as of early morning, August 24, here we are:

The Economy
While the unemployment figures look very good on their face, they are clearly not translating to growth, especially at the cost of the exploding deficit that temporarily goosed the economy. GDP is currently at 2.1%, but we can certainly remain hopeful that it will reverse course and increase. There have been spotty signs that growth-push inflation may be ticking up, but the trade war is clearly effecting sentiment (not to mention data) at a terribly delicate moment. Right now, this is a decent economy, at best, with consumers lacking the resources to push it and their household debt above 2008 levels.

Trade With China
Our President doesn't appear to understand that China is paying attention. They realize quite well that he's trying to bully them into a trade deal, like an eight-year old boy trying to bully another child out of their lunch at the playground. Meanwhile, Trump exhibits zero (0) understanding of the fact that China can theoretically out-wait us here, since they don't have those pesky elections to worry about all that much if the populace gets pissed off. While anything is certainly possible, it's tough to imagine China making any long term commitments until after they see who they're dealing with in January of 2021.

International Relations
Our President has not only isolated himself and his country from the rest of the world with his actions, but also with his petulant behaviors. Even for those of us who have done all we can to lower our standards and expectations of his child-like behavior, the thought of this goofy, pointless dust-up with Denmark (Denmark!) makes us wonder if this man can get along with anyone outside his base. Meanwhile, the crazy fat kid in North Korea is shooting off rockets like he's in charge of the Fourth of July celebration at the park. Like China, the world is clearly looking ahead, with hope, to November 2020.

The Wall
Trump's signature, paranoid, shallow, hyper-simplistic election issue piece isn't exactly flying up with checks to pay for it coming in from Mexico. Even with the White House, House and Senate, this President wasn't able to do much more than slap up a few new two by fours to fix some areas of our existing wall. Any completely "new" wall is spotty at best, and now he's ready to steal cash from one place to placate his base with a few miles of a much less Trumpish wall here and there. Gee, great, so much for that idea. I guess "Build! The! Wall!" could still serve as a standby rally chant when needed.

Race
Well, examining this topic is most likely a waste of time here, since there are many on this board who are telling us that racism no longer exists, or it's fake news, or that if you don't show up to work wearing a white hood you can't be a racist. What a disaster. And minorities are supposed to ignore all of it, because the unemployment rate is down at the moment. While the sycophants continue to run interference for the President Who Doesn't Know Who David Duke is, the rest of the country and the rest of the world are simply not buying the bullshit. But it sure sounds good on talk radio.

The silver lining? By far the most "successful" component of the Trump years will probably turn out to be the courts. The SC is in good shape for them, and they now have the added bonus of hoping that Ruth is quickly ravaged by cancer and dies soon. Ditto (no pun intended) for the lower courts, the nominations of which don't make much news but sure look like Sean Hannity picked 'em.

Could the economy turn back up? Yes, definitely, hopefully, but some kind of GOOD trade deal with China is now pretty much mandatory for that to happen. The Courts are the Courts. They'll probably be able to gather enough Lego™ blocks to build enough of a wall somewhere to keep talk radio and the base happy. International Relations? Race Relations? Pffffft. Who cares. Fake news.
.

Republicans have told us this economy is great. This reminds me of living in Michigan during the Bush presidency. We here in Michigan could see manufacturing was not "great" like Republicans said. And we all know how valuable manufacturing jobs are to this country, right?

So when Republicans tell you this is the greatest economy ever, just remember what my customer just emailed me as the reason why he isn't going to send 2 employees to training before the end of the year. He's in Texas by the way. But look what he wrote me

With business conditions going as they are it will be tough to.....

What business conditions? Trump just gave tax breaks that were supposed to spawn growth and prosperity. Based on what my customer is telling me, the economy is about to tighten up the purse strings.

Trump, you fucking suck! Not just because of this either. But it's horrible that Trump's tax breaks have done very little other than make rich people richer and make our debt grow bigger faster.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I want to know why they didn't bring their own?

Well, then you are a moron.

you don't travel with your toothbrush and I'm the moron?

I didn't say or imply that....weird, it's like you're retarded or something....

 

[jc456]

I want to know why they didn't bring their own?

Well, then you are a moron.

you don't travel with your toothbrush and I'm the moron?

I didn't say or imply that....weird, it's like you're retarded or something....

hey dude, did you read what you posted on? too fking funny

So do you travel with your toothbrush or not? Why wouldn't the illegals?

 

[JimH52]

Not that it really matters to some, but we're not really in a good place at the moment. Things could turn, and most of us continue to hope for the best. But, as of early morning, August 24, here we are:

The Economy
While the unemployment figures look very good on their face, they are clearly not translating to growth, especially at the cost of the exploding deficit that temporarily goosed the economy. GDP is currently at 2.1%, but we can certainly remain hopeful that it will reverse course and increase. There have been spotty signs that growth-push inflation may be ticking up, but the trade war is clearly effecting sentiment (not to mention data) at a terribly delicate moment. Right now, this is a decent economy, at best, with consumers lacking the resources to push it and their household debt above 2008 levels.

Trade With China
Our President doesn't appear to understand that China is paying attention. They realize quite well that he's trying to bully them into a trade deal, like an eight-year old boy trying to bully another child out of their lunch at the playground. Meanwhile, Trump exhibits zero (0) understanding of the fact that China can theoretically out-wait us here, since they don't have those pesky elections to worry about all that much if the populace gets pissed off. While anything is certainly possible, it's tough to imagine China making any long term commitments until after they see who they're dealing with in January of 2021.

International Relations
Our President has not only isolated himself and his country from the rest of the world with his actions, but also with his petulant behaviors. Even for those of us who have done all we can to lower our standards and expectations of his child-like behavior, the thought of this goofy, pointless dust-up with Denmark (Denmark!) makes us wonder if this man can get along with anyone outside his base. Meanwhile, the crazy fat kid in North Korea is shooting off rockets like he's in charge of the Fourth of July celebration at the park. Like China, the world is clearly looking ahead, with hope, to November 2020.

The Wall
Trump's signature, paranoid, shallow, hyper-simplistic election issue piece isn't exactly flying up with checks to pay for it coming in from Mexico. Even with the White House, House and Senate, this President wasn't able to do much more than slap up a few new two by fours to fix some areas of our existing wall. Any completely "new" wall is spotty at best, and now he's ready to steal cash from one place to placate his base with a few miles of a much less Trumpish wall here and there. Gee, great, so much for that idea. I guess "Build! The! Wall!" could still serve as a standby rally chant when needed.

Race
Well, examining this topic is most likely a waste of time here, since there are many on this board who are telling us that racism no longer exists, or it's fake news, or that if you don't show up to work wearing a white hood you can't be a racist. What a disaster. And minorities are supposed to ignore all of it, because the unemployment rate is down at the moment. While the sycophants continue to run interference for the President Who Doesn't Know Who David Duke is, the rest of the country and the rest of the world are simply not buying the bullshit. But it sure sounds good on talk radio.

The silver lining? By far the most "successful" component of the Trump years will probably turn out to be the courts. The SC is in good shape for them, and they now have the added bonus of hoping that Ruth is quickly ravaged by cancer and dies soon. Ditto (no pun intended) for the lower courts, the nominations of which don't make much news but sure look like Sean Hannity picked 'em.

Could the economy turn back up? Yes, definitely, hopefully, but some kind of GOOD trade deal with China is now pretty much mandatory for that to happen. The Courts are the Courts. They'll probably be able to gather enough Lego™ blocks to build enough of a wall somewhere to keep talk radio and the base happy. International Relations? Race Relations? Pffffft. Who cares. Fake news.
.

One day....perhaps we will have an Adminiatration again. Right now we have a Regime which bows to a man whose mind is clearly failing him....

 

[Mac1958]

Not that it really matters to some, but we're not really in a good place at the moment. Things could turn, and most of us continue to hope for the best. But, as of early morning, August 24, here we are:

The Economy
While the unemployment figures look very good on their face, they are clearly not translating to growth, especially at the cost of the exploding deficit that temporarily goosed the economy. GDP is currently at 2.1%, but we can certainly remain hopeful that it will reverse course and increase. There have been spotty signs that growth-push inflation may be ticking up, but the trade war is clearly effecting sentiment (not to mention data) at a terribly delicate moment. Right now, this is a decent economy, at best, with consumers lacking the resources to push it and their household debt above 2008 levels.

Trade With China
Our President doesn't appear to understand that China is paying attention. They realize quite well that he's trying to bully them into a trade deal, like an eight-year old boy trying to bully another child out of their lunch at the playground. Meanwhile, Trump exhibits zero (0) understanding of the fact that China can theoretically out-wait us here, since they don't have those pesky elections to worry about all that much if the populace gets pissed off. While anything is certainly possible, it's tough to imagine China making any long term commitments until after they see who they're dealing with in January of 2021.

International Relations
Our President has not only isolated himself and his country from the rest of the world with his actions, but also with his petulant behaviors. Even for those of us who have done all we can to lower our standards and expectations of his child-like behavior, the thought of this goofy, pointless dust-up with Denmark (Denmark!) makes us wonder if this man can get along with anyone outside his base. Meanwhile, the crazy fat kid in North Korea is shooting off rockets like he's in charge of the Fourth of July celebration at the park. Like China, the world is clearly looking ahead, with hope, to November 2020.

The Wall
Trump's signature, paranoid, shallow, hyper-simplistic election issue piece isn't exactly flying up with checks to pay for it coming in from Mexico. Even with the White House, House and Senate, this President wasn't able to do much more than slap up a few new two by fours to fix some areas of our existing wall. Any completely "new" wall is spotty at best, and now he's ready to steal cash from one place to placate his base with a few miles of a much less Trumpish wall here and there. Gee, great, so much for that idea. I guess "Build! The! Wall!" could still serve as a standby rally chant when needed.

Race
Well, examining this topic is most likely a waste of time here, since there are many on this board who are telling us that racism no longer exists, or it's fake news, or that if you don't show up to work wearing a white hood you can't be a racist. What a disaster. And minorities are supposed to ignore all of it, because the unemployment rate is down at the moment. While the sycophants continue to run interference for the President Who Doesn't Know Who David Duke is, the rest of the country and the rest of the world are simply not buying the bullshit. But it sure sounds good on talk radio.

The silver lining? By far the most "successful" component of the Trump years will probably turn out to be the courts. The SC is in good shape for them, and they now have the added bonus of hoping that Ruth is quickly ravaged by cancer and dies soon. Ditto (no pun intended) for the lower courts, the nominations of which don't make much news but sure look like Sean Hannity picked 'em.

Could the economy turn back up? Yes, definitely, hopefully, but some kind of GOOD trade deal with China is now pretty much mandatory for that to happen. The Courts are the Courts. They'll probably be able to gather enough Lego™ blocks to build enough of a wall somewhere to keep talk radio and the base happy. International Relations? Race Relations? Pffffft. Who cares. Fake news.
.

Republicans have told us this economy is great. This reminds me of living in Michigan during the Bush presidency. We here in Michigan could see manufacturing was not "great" like Republicans said. And we all know how valuable manufacturing jobs are to this country, right?

So when Republicans tell you this is the greatest economy ever, just remember what my customer just emailed me as the reason why he isn't going to send 2 employees to training before the end of the year. He's in Texas by the way. But look what he wrote me

With business conditions going as they are it will be tough to.....

What business conditions? Trump just gave tax breaks that were supposed to spawn growth and prosperity. Based on what my customer is telling me, the economy is about to tighten up the purse strings.

Trump, you fucking suck! Not just because of this either. But it's horrible that Trump's tax breaks have done very little other than make rich people richer and make our debt grow bigger faster.

There's no way to know what they really think, unfortunately. They might really believe it.
.

 

[Third Party]

I want to know why they didn't bring their own?

Well, then you are a moron.

In this world, you take care of yourself, first family next, community, country-then others if you are so inclined-I'm not.

 

[JoeB131]

Of course, none of that has anything to do with my thread. It's just the standard, boilerplate talk radio talking points.

If you want to talk about the Democrats, sure: The party has completely lost its shit, and the hardcore Left refuses to admit that its devotion to PC, Identity Politics and general nastiness makes it partly responsible for the fact that this guy is in the White House to begin with.

Why does Vichy Mac keep telling this lie? I mean besides the fact he has no integrity?

Trump did no better among White People than the Weird Mormon Robot did. He got 57% of the White vote. Romney got 59% of the white vote. There was not a bunch of white people who "got fed up with PC and Identity Politics". In fact, white people have always vote for the GOP in the 55 - 60% range all the way back to Ronnie Ray-gun. (The exceptions being 92 and 96, when a bunch of them defected to Ross Perot)

What you had- and Vichy Mac doesn't address this point - was that a lot of people just plain old voted for third parties in 2016, because Hillary was corrupt as shit, kind of a phony and frankly, her enabling of her husband's behaviors pretty much neutralized Trump's Pussy Grabbing, porn star fucking ways.

By his logic, Hillary should have won. She was moderate on almost all the issues, she didn't play "Identity Politics", and she pretty much didn't say a thing without focus-group testing it first.

Trump did do a good job of addressing the ECONOMIC concerns of the White Working Class... but he hasn't fixed the problems.

 

[JoeB131]

I'm a little too far up in a few too many heads here.

Your own head is so far up your ass you can give yourself a colonoscopy.

 

[JoeB131]

its funny how every one of you libs want higher taxes on the "evil" rich, unless of course those rich are members of the dem party, the media, or the hollyloony cult. The top income earners are already paying the bulk of the tax burden, the lower half is paying nothing. What you fools dont get is that if you tax the rich and corporations, they will simply move out of the country and take their money and businesses with them.

the ignorance of the left has no limits.

Uh, DUmmy, the lower half doesn't have anything to tax. The bottom 40% of the population has less than 1% of the wealth. Meanwhile, the Top 1% controls 43% of the wealth and the top 20% controls 87% of the wealth.

Sure, they can move... to parts of the world that will tax them even higher than we do.

Most of the rest of G7 have higher taxes on the rich than we do.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I want to know why they didn't bring their own?

Well, then you are a moron.

In this world, you take care of yourself, first family next, community, country-then others if you are so inclined-I'm not.

Great, then we just have to outvote peole like you.

 

[JoeB131]

Mac didn't make a "factually incorrect" argument. Just in light of the last five decades, it was somewhat puzzling, lacking in specifics, and incomplete. Hillary lost because of whites abandoning her in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan. Whether that was because Democrats alienated them, or because Trump activated resentments and abject stupidity to win them over, or for some other reasons, remains to be clarified.

Not really. Trump didn't do much better than Romney in any of those states.... He didn't clear 50% in any. The loss all came in terms of people, who having been told that Hillary "Had it in the bag" with a "Blue Wall", figured they could all be self-righteous and vote for third parties. That would be if they understood the stupidity that is the Electoral College at all.

If you gave Hillary JUST the votes of Jill Stein, she'd have won all three states. But if you listen to Vichy Mac, it's because the Democrats are "Too radical". Um. yeah, you aren't voting for Commie Jill Stein if you are a "moderate".

That "most unlikable human being" started out in 2015 with an approval rating well into the 60s. Up until ten days before the election she had a solid 7 point lead. Then, Comey happened, her lead collapsed, so did the blue firewall, and still she won 3 million more votes than Trump. That, to repeat "most unlikable human being". You don't know Hillary - nobody does with the possible exception of Bill. The "Hillary" you "know" is the result of a lavishly funded smear campaign lasting for more than a quarter century. You seemingly fell for it, and you are far from the only one bereft of the critical faculties to resist.

Yeah, 2015, we all forgot what a bitch she was, because she had been out of the spotlight. She VERY QUICKLY reminded us. Don't blame Comey for her corruption.

Here's the thing. Even Democrats don't like her. In 2008, they picked an unknown over her. In 2016, she got Some Commie to be a ringer, and she STILL had to cheat to beat him. The bitch is just plain unlikable. If the GOP hadn't nominated a crazy Nazi Rodeo Clown, I'd have probably voted GOP in 2016, even though I agree with them on nothing. The one human being that could lose to Trump, that's who the Democrats picked.

But, no, no, your boyfriend Vichy Mac will tell you it was because of political correctness, no really.

What is it, in the end, about "unlikable" anyway? That's how little girls talk. Oh, and silly, hysterical tv pundits, paid to pander to the lowest common denominator, and you.

Hey, reality check. We don't elect people we dislike. It's no coincidence the most successful president of my lifetime was an actor. (Please note, I said successful, not good). If we are going to have someone in our living rooms for the next 4-8 years, we better be sure we like them. While Karl Rove's observation that the middle votes for the guy they'd like to have a beer with might be trite.

Trump is not an "accident of history". He's the inevitable consequence of politicking on the right that infested right-wing brains like prions, starting with the Southern Strategy, exploding under Gingrich, and festering during Obama's presidency until that feverish swamp swallowed the country. There is nothing accidental about it - it's just America revealing what it truly is. Of course, everyone deals with it the way they can - Mac would rather vote for GOP lite, you declare Trump an accident and hope for someone to "go in for the kill" (whatever that's supposed to mean),

I mean it exactly as it says. Biggest problem with Democrats. THEY'RE PUSSIES!!!! They get elected, and they surrender on principles like they are in the French Army. Shit, if I wanted RomneyCare, I'd have voted for Romney! (Or I would if he wasn't a Mormon, because I really hate Mormons). But that's what you got if you voted for Obama and the Democrats... and then they scratched their heads and wondered why they got voted right back out when they didn't deliver on a damned thing they promised.

others think harassing MAGA-hat wearers and falling all over themselves heaping contempt on the other side is the way to go. I find all that about equally helpless and silly. I'd say, with a largely infantile, self-centered, ignorant, resentful and vindictive population, someone like Trump was to be expected, and that's particularly so since the warning shot in the form of Bush the Lesser wasn't heeded.

Um... no. Sorry, this is another point I make with your boyfriend. Politics were just as silly in the 1980's as they are now.

Before I forget, you can stuff your "race pimp" slur up there where the sun doesn't shine. Unmistakably, there is racism seeping out of it, and I find it highly unbecoming.

You can find it what you want, but when you treat a two-bit race pimp like Jesse Jackson (Spit in white people's soup and served it with a smile) or Al Sharpton (Tawana Brawley and Crown Heights riots) and treat them like ELDER STATESMEN, you shouldn't be surprised when you've alienated people. The best and smartest thing ever done by a Democrat was when Bill Clinton finally confronted Jesse Jackson.

Also, and finally, I cannot possibly express how much I resent being made to defend Mac against unfair and baseless attacks - when, in fact, there is enough there realistically to criticize. If you need to get some resentments and bile out of your system, buy yourself a punching bag, or something.

I've got punching bags... they are lying sacks of crap on USMB.

Now go scamper away with your tail between your legs.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If you gave Hillary JUST the votes of Jill Stein, she'd have won all three states. But if you listen to Vichy Mac, it's because the Democrats are "Too radical". Um. yeah, you aren't voting for Commie Jill Stein if you are a "moderate".

Spot on. Unfortunately, the Macster is ass backwards wrong, on this one.

 

[JoeB131]

Sounds like Mac needs a hug.

Naw, Mac's problem is that he doesn't feel at home in either party right now.

The Democrats aren't too friendly to his industry, and the Republicans are too mean... so he pouts that he can't have conservative economics and liberal social policy... because no one would ever vote for that.

 

[HappyJoy]

Sounds like Mac needs a hug.

Naw, Mac's problem is that he doesn't feel at home in either party right now.

The Democrats aren't too friendly to his industry, and the Republicans are too mean... so he pouts that he can't have conservative economics and liberal social policy... because no one would ever vote for that.

That's not true or Libertarian President Gary Johnson would never have been elected.

 

[JoeB131]

Sounds like you can't deny any of my points.

Why should he bother. If he did, you'd just pretend you didn't see it.

Hell, I'll give Crixus his due... at least he tries to address points made to him.