At What Point Did You Decide That You Were Against Obama No Matter What?

[Uncensored2008]

This, right here, tells me that there's no Democrat in the world that could ever earn your support.
Which puts you deep and comfortably in the far right wing radical fringe.

The only thing I can do for you, at this point, is to thank you for your honesty.

So Marc, which conservative have you voted for?

Obama.

Yeah, but only because Hugo Chavez wasn't on the ballot.

 

[peach174]

At least they admit they hate him. It's a "start".

Who actually said Hate him?
Opposing policies and ideologies is not hate.
I like him as a man. He is a good Father and Husband.
It is his ideologies that are not working, that the majority of us don't like.

 

[depotoo]

You are either short on facts or deliberately lying.

The bailout started with Bush and as I recall more than half the money was given out when Obama took office. From day one the government started taking stock in corporations to secure the bailout funds, so that GM bailout was started under Bush, when GM recieved bailout funds. GM needed more funds and the corporation went through a controlled bankrupcy. It came out of bankrupcy to become the largest automaker in the world. The bailout was passed for Bush by Democrats and it was a remarkable success. The Republicans didn't even support the efforts of their own President during the financial crisis.

I said stimulus, not bailout although I disagreed with that and have since admitted to being wrong about the positive effects the liquidity the bailouts had on the economy.

The GM bailout was described as loans, and we were told that it was desperately needed to keep GM out of bankruptcy - oops - GM went bankrupt anyway. Then some loans were repaid with further bailout money, others were converted to stock. All in all, the US taxpayers lost over $25 Billion to "save" GM and it hasn't produced enough to even match the government's valuation.

GM is not the largest automaker, Toyota is. That's without the government doing everything possible to save face.

GM should have been liquidated and re-oriented. That's how capitalism in a generally free market works. GM is just crony capitalism and it doesn't even work well then.

The government made money on the GM bailout and you did discuss the GM bailout that started with Bush. GM told the government it would need more money, so nothing that happened was a secret. The bailout involved loans secured with stock and interest was charged to these corporations, hence the government made money off the interest, warrants and stock that secured the loans.

You are running your mouth and just saying bullshit. It doesn't work well to save the largest automaker on Earth that provides tax revenue many times more than it received in bailout funds that it paid back with interest?

Post proof to prove your claims and not some bullshit from a right-wing blog.

Wed Apr 21, 2010

GM Chief Executive Ed Whitacre announced at a plant in Kansas that the automaker had fully repaid U.S. and Canadian government loans extended as part of its bankruptcy last year, and said there was "a real possibility" of an initial public offering this year.

Source: GM repays U.S. loan, government loss on bailout falls | Reuters

gm repays government - Bing

Where have you been?

GM is again the world's largest automaker - Los Angeles Times

Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

this is what you get for blindly trusting the media. Go actually bring up the US financials since GM received their loans. See what it actually says. See what price the stock was sold at. I could go on but will leave you with a starting point.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Who actually said Hate him?
Opposing policies and ideologies is not hate.
I like him as a man. He is a good Father and Husband.
It is his ideologies that are not working, that the majority of us don't like.

I second that. Given that Obama is a gay man, he treats his wife and children with respect.

 

[MarcATL]

Clearly, this is directed to The Republicans and self-proclaimed Conservatives of USMB.

When, exactly, did you realize that you really didn't like Obama and were going to be against him no matter what?

I'll answer the question in the reverse as an example. Some years ago, when Bush was first elected, I disliked him. I didn't like what he stood for, didn't like what he said, I didn't even like the way he sounded, he sounds dumb and he's proven himself to be such. Anyway, I wasn't totally or automatically against him. What turned me against him permanently, was what he did with the good will of The American People after the country was attacked.

He lied about the WMDs, he kept the country in state of constant fear, and he waged two unnecessary wars. To top it off, he didn't pay for it at the time and sent the bill to our kids and grandkids.

To be precise, from the instant he began that fear campaign war campaign, he lost me forever. I will NEVER forgive him for that.

So, when did you Republicans, Conservatives and other assorted RWers of USMB decide to be against Obama no matter what?

C'mon, be honest.

for me, there were plenty enough legitimate reasons to vote against Obama:

1. his political philosophy and party affiliation (socialist Democrat)...

2. his incredibly short resume' (the guy had spent relatively little time as an elected official, and had essentially no prior executive experience)...

3. his connection to the corrupt Chicago machine (Louisiana politics looks like amateur night compared to Chicago)...

4. his well-documented antipathy towards citizens' rights to keep and bear arms...

That's interesting seeing as how Obama

1. Governs as a moderate Repubican

2. That the Republicans seemed to have no problems with Sarah Palin's short resume. Aside from that, only in far right wing circles was it considered the case that Obama had a short resume. His many years as a community organizer and his previous experience in Chicago and national politics worked fine for the average American thinker, as was evident in the election.

3. That's a silly talking point of the far RW...What the heck is "the Chicago machine?" As if politics every where else is lily white pure as the driven snow. Get a grip.

4. What nonsense is this about "well-documented antipathy?" Under Obama's governership gun rights have actually EXPANDED. What President BEFORE him allowed carriers to have their weapons while at a rally with him? Again...get a fletchin GRIP dude...seriously.

 

[healthmyths]

At least they admit they hate him. It's a "start".

Who actually said Hate him?
Opposing policies and ideologies is not hate.
I like him as a man. He is a good Father and Husband.
It is his ideologies that are not working, that the majority of us don't like.

I agree with YOU 100% in I don't "hate" Obama any more then I "hate" any person!
"HATE" is the purview of idiots, imbeciles and most Democrats.

So Hate only exists in people that are basically stupid!

I totally dislike our country being dismantled. Which is what Obama is doing.
Obamacare is costing more then he said... He lied about this.
"If you like your health-care plan, you keep your health-care plan. Nobody is going to force you to leave your health-care plan. If you like your doctor, you keep seeing your doctor.
I don't want government bureaucrats meddling in your health care."
============
FACT: "The result ObamaCare which today McKinsey & Company commissioned a survey of 1,329 U.S. private sector employers to measure their attitudes about healthcare reform concluded that 30% of all companies would stop providing health coverage once Obamacare kicked in in 2014.
US employer healthcare survey | McKinsey & Company


Payroll taxes are going up ... in spite of Obama's " firm pledge: Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.”

So I don't hate Obama... I don't like him destroying my home though!

 

[GuyPinestra]

Clearly, this is directed to The Republicans and self-proclaimed Conservatives of USMB.

When, exactly, did you realize that you really didn't like Obama and were going to be against him no matter what?

I'll answer the question in the reverse as an example. Some years ago, when Bush was first elected, I disliked him. I didn't like what he stood for, didn't like what he said, I didn't even like the way he sounded, he sounds dumb and he's proven himself to be such. Anyway, I wasn't totally or automatically against him. What turned me against him permanently, was what he did with the good will of The American People after the country was attacked.

He lied about the WMDs, he kept the country in state of constant fear, and he waged two unnecessary wars. To top it off, he didn't pay for it at the time and sent the bill to our kids and grandkids.

To be precise, from the instant he began that fear campaign war campaign, he lost me forever. I will NEVER forgive him for that.

So, when did you Republicans, Conservatives and other assorted RWers of USMB decide to be against Obama no matter what?

C'mon, be honest.

The minute I heard this....

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsapJii1rMY]Barack Obama On Redistribution of Wealth - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Uncensored2008]

That's interesting seeing as how Obama

1. Governs as a moderate Repubican

ROFL

The stupidity you fools try and pass on.

Uh no Marc, he is nowhere near "Moderate."

Obama governs as he is, a radical leftist.

2. That the Republicans seemed to have no problems with Sarah Palin's short resume. Aside from that, only in far right wing circles was it considered the case that Obama had a short resume. His many years as a community organizer and his previous experience in Chicago and national politics worked fine for the average American thinker, as was evident in the election.

Sarah Palin wasn't running for President.

Your straw man argument merely reveal the complete lack of substance to your position.

3. That's a silly talking point of the far RW...What the heck is "the Chicago machine?" As if politics every where else is lily white pure as the driven snow. Get a grip.

Don't be stupid, it serves you poorly and doesn't detract from the facts, as you imagine it would.

Right off the bat Obama was engaged with convicted felon Rod Blagojovich to sell his vacant senate seat. Hey, it's the Chicago way. His dealing with the Mafia are well documented, and he named a Mafia lawyer as his chief of staff. That Mafia lawyer is now Mayor of Chicago and openly engaging in racketeering on behalf of Obama.

4. What nonsense is this about "well-documented antipathy?" Under Obama's governership gun rights have actually EXPANDED. What President BEFORE him allowed carriers to have their weapons while at a rally with him? Again...get a fletchin GRIP dude...seriously.

What the fuck are you babbling about? Carriers? Having weapons at rallies?

Put down the crack pipe.

 

[MarcATL]

So Marc, which conservative have you voted for?

Obama.

That explains it...

That explains what sir?

How are you defining "conservative" exactly? And how was McCain or Romney conservative?

 

[MarcATL]

What began it for me was when he quickly chose his liberal check list ideology path with Obamacare, over making sure the economy was recovering and encouraging private companies were providing full time high income jobs again. Promising transparency, televising the debates on C-Span ( yeah right. had to laugh at that one ) only to perform closed door back room deals ( pork spending deals and promises to generate enough votes for Obamacare to pass ). Then it was his smug arrogance, that he was going to get his way no matter what, blaming instead of working across the aisle, with his rhetoric dividing the nation even more than it was prior to his inauguration. Saying that unemployment extension benefits was better than a Keystone pipeline at creating jobs (making the untold suggestion the unemployed would rather receive a check than work) Then pushing for more government spending that sped up the rate of our national debt faster than it has previously been. Choosing to make speeches while an oil disaster in the gulf got worse, with no government assistance as we sat watching the coverage on tv for months while it slowly creeped it's way towards the gulf shores. Then when he had an opportunity to help those states who were struggling to get their tourism and local businesses recovering, he felt it more beneficial to vacation among the rich at Martha's Vineyard. Cash for Clunkers, Cash for Appliances, neither of which added any new jobs to the economy. Touting that Al Queda is scattered and no longer a threat after a seal team killed Osama Bin Laden, then when the terrorist struck back against one of our embassies killing an ambassador along with two Americans, try to lie and deflect attention towards a protest over a video. Yet I am to believe Obama will actually try to hold up to his promises for his NEXT term, of honestly receiving and hearing suggestions from BOTH sides and not play party politics.

So your belief is basically that after a Democrat wins, he should immediately pander to and act like a Republican.

Is that it?

What were your thoughts and feelings about the Republican Party's meeting and plan to stop Obama during the inaugaration?

The Immoral Minority: New book reveals that Republicans held secret meeting deciding to obstruct EVERYTHING President Obama tried to do the DAY he was inaugurated. By a show of hands who did not already suspect that?

Do you think that Jim Demint's language of "we must break him?" bi-partisan?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHV4nDS501Y]Sen. Jim DeMint calls defeating Obama like Waterloo - YouTube[/ame]

How about the GOP's goal, led by Mitch McConnell that their number one goal is to defeat President Barack Obama and make him a one-term President...

Republican leader says GOP's number one goal is defeating Obama in 2012 - National Political Buzz | Examiner.com

Were you upset at all by any of the above check-list idealogical path?

If he campaigned that he would work across the aisle, then he should demonstrate that promise during his presidency, not demean his opponents and divide our nation even further than it already has been.

Apparently you weren't upset when Obama failed to live up to his hope and change promises to make the economy his top priority (moving instead to bog down Congress with Obamacare over jobs) or that spending to increase our debt and leave the burden "to every man, woman, and child, is inexcusable, it's unpatriotic" to use Obama's own words?

At least you wouldn't see a Republican going around the country making speeches during the worst economic disaster in this nation's history. And yes Obama is out of touch if he chooses laughing it up with the rich over at Martha's Vineyard over taking his vacation to help those struggling businesses effected by the oil spill, a great demonstration of a democrat president who looks out for the middle class.

Sorry if my list of truths hit a sore spot for you, but if he campaigned on hope and change instead of "politics as usual" ( as he called it ) he might have left a positive mark on his presidential legacy. and this country might have benefitted from its historic moment. All we have now is broken promises, great speeches, and no real growing economy to speak of.

What you call a "list of truths" is essentially a generic list of partisan RW talking points. Now this is just a hunch, but I suspect that you're in the RW bubble.

 

[Connery]

Benghazi, Libya hands down. This is irreversible. It should have been anticipated and prepared for. Many decisions that any political leader makes can be rectified or amended by their successors and then there are these decisions that cost the lives of very good Americans.

 

[MarcATL]

Clearly, this is directed to The Republicans and self-proclaimed Conservatives of USMB.

When, exactly, did you realize that you really didn't like Obama and were going to be against him no matter what?

I'll answer the question in the reverse as an example. Some years ago, when Bush was first elected, I disliked him. I didn't like what he stood for, didn't like what he said, I didn't even like the way he sounded, he sounds dumb and he's proven himself to be such. Anyway, I wasn't totally or automatically against him. What turned me against him permanently, was what he did with the good will of The American People after the country was attacked.

He lied about the WMDs, he kept the country in state of constant fear, and he waged two unnecessary wars. To top it off, he didn't pay for it at the time and sent the bill to our kids and grandkids.

To be precise, from the instant he began that fear campaign war campaign, he lost me forever. I will NEVER forgive him for that.

So, when did you Republicans, Conservatives and other assorted RWers of USMB decide to be against Obama no matter what?

C'mon, be honest.

Well, your DISHONEST question presupposes a bias against the President based on his race. How sad for you to view the entire world through a racial prism. It also exposes your attachment to group identity as opposed to individual self worth. How is it that some Blacks are able to rise above the mire of self pity while others are not? Of course, you probably resent such individuals as being "Uncle Tom's" or "Oreo's."

If you were to ask an HONEST question about opposition to the President's policies, I would answer that his endorsement of the way the Affordable Care Act was rammed through Congress without a single Republican vote led me to believe that, despite his rhetoric to the contrary, he was going to govern in a highly partisan and ideological manner. His deceitful dissemination of information (e.g., Benghazi) and constant demagoguery about our crushing financial problems have confirmed this opinion.

But then you weren't interested in honesty in the first place, were you?

Bingo. Great post and I couldn't have said it better.

I was willing to give this guy the benefit of the doubt until his statements to Joe the Plumber.

He wanted to spread the wealth and change the face of America.That let me know right there what this guy was gonna try to do. Those that work hard and have need to take care of those that don't.

Plus every promise he made while running for office has turned out to be a bunch of bs. Instead of focusing on the economy he and his Dem cohorts rammed the ACA down our throats. Another huge entitlement we cannot afford. Something we taxpayers are going to bear the brunt of.

Then he and his administration lied through their teeth for weeks about Benghazi. Why? Because he was running for that second term and didn't need any negative publicity. With the exception of FOX the rest of the LSM assisted by not focusing on the story. If Bush had been potus during Benghazi the NYS would have had as front page news with 8 inch letters for weeks. Because it was that fuck in the WH it was barely a news item. He had no problem jetting off to his fundraiser in Vegas while people were dying at the consulate.

No honor. No integrity and a fucking shit as far as I'm concerned.

Interesting how you bring up an incident from Joe "The Not-So Plumber". Even more interesting is how you say that ACA was "rammed down" your throats. Well 2 years and change is some really. slow. ramming. WoW!! I bet you were part of the ilk that didn't consider Scott Walker of Wisconsin's swift attack and execution on the unions "ramming down."

I'm also supsicious of your promises argument. I'm willing to bet hard cash that you weren't and/or aren't onboard with his promises, simply the ones you cherry-pick to further your partisan rhetoric.

Why are you holding Obama to a different standard than any other politician? Don't they all make promises they can't keep? Most of the times they do intend to, but for political reasons can't. Prime example is the closing of Gitmo. The Republicans shut Obama down on that PROMPTLY. Are you saying you were rooting for Obama to close down Gitmo?

You should be at least honest lady...at least.

*SMH*

 

[MarcATL]

Republicans have only yourselves to either 1.credit or 2. blame for Obama not only winning his first election, but the second as well.

IF George Bush hadn't given us the Presidency with a collapasing economy that he did.

IF the Republican party had run better candidates than McCain/Palin.

And IF Republican's had been able to run better candidates than Romney/Ryan.


Obama would have never won the first time and the second would have been a non issue.

You rethugs have to do a better job of selecting candidates. Trying picking one that can win.

Now all you can do is whine.

You forgot the two most important things, 1. their failed policies that they can't seem to stop pushing and 2. their failed rhetoric that's driving the American Voters further, and further, and further away from them into the waiting arms of the Democrats.

Will they listen to reason though?

Heck no.

They think they're doing good.

 

[zeke]

Benghazi, Libya hands down. This is irreversible. It should have been anticipated and prepared for. Many decisions that any political leader makes can be rectified or amended by their successors and then there are these decisions that cost the lives of very good Americans.

See if I got this correct.

The President (any President) is supposed to involve themselves in running the day to day security of our embassies?

I don't think so. And he accepted responsibility along with his sec of state.


But did you feel so strongly against Geroge Bush when 3000+ innocent people got killed under his watch?

4 vs 3000. You do the math.

 

[AsheedMidrarwz]

Republicans have only yourselves to either 1.credit or 2. blame for Obama not only winning his first election, but the second as well.

IF George Bush hadn't given us the Presidency with a collapasing economy that he did.

IF the Republican party had run better candidates than McCain/Palin.

And IF Republican's had been able to run better candidates than Romney/Ryan.


Obama would have never won the first time and the second would have been a non issue.

You rethugs have to do a better job of selecting candidates. Trying picking one that can win.

Now all you can do is whine.

You forgot the two most important things, 1. their failed policies that they can't seem to stop pushing and 2. their failed rhetoric that's driving the American Voters further, and further, and further away from them into the waiting arms of the Democrats.

Will they listen to reason though?

Heck no.

They think they're doing good.

Do you think a two-party system is healthy or just a Democrat party running everything?

 

[MarcATL]

What began it for me was when he quickly chose his liberal check list ideology path with Obamacare, over making sure the economy was recovering and encouraging private companies were providing full time high income jobs again. Promising transparency, televising the debates on C-Span ( yeah right. had to laugh at that one ) only to perform closed door back room deals ( pork spending deals and promises to generate enough votes for Obamacare to pass ). Then it was his smug arrogance, that he was going to get his way no matter what, blaming instead of working across the aisle, with his rhetoric dividing the nation even more than it was prior to his inauguration. Saying that unemployment extension benefits was better than a Keystone pipeline at creating jobs (making the untold suggestion the unemployed would rather receive a check than work) Then pushing for more government spending that sped up the rate of our national debt faster than it has previously been. Choosing to make speeches while an oil disaster in the gulf got worse, with no government assistance as we sat watching the coverage on tv for months while it slowly creeped it's way towards the gulf shores. Then when he had an opportunity to help those states who were struggling to get their tourism and local businesses recovering, he felt it more beneficial to vacation among the rich at Martha's Vineyard. Cash for Clunkers, Cash for Appliances, neither of which added any new jobs to the economy. Touting that Al Queda is scattered and no longer a threat after a seal team killed Osama Bin Laden, then when the terrorist struck back against one of our embassies killing an ambassador along with two Americans, try to lie and deflect attention towards a protest over a video. Yet I am to believe Obama will actually try to hold up to his promises for his NEXT term, of honestly receiving and hearing suggestions from BOTH sides and not play party politics.

So your belief is basically that after a Democrat wins, he should immediately pander to and act like a Republican.

Is that it?

What were your thoughts and feelings about the Republican Party's meeting and plan to stop Obama during the inaugaration?

The Immoral Minority: New book reveals that Republicans held secret meeting deciding to obstruct EVERYTHING President Obama tried to do the DAY he was inaugurated. By a show of hands who did not already suspect that?

Do you think that Jim Demint's language of "we must break him?" bi-partisan?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHV4nDS501Y]Sen. Jim DeMint calls defeating Obama like Waterloo - YouTube[/ame]

How about the GOP's goal, led by Mitch McConnell that their number one goal is to defeat President Barack Obama and make him a one-term President...

Republican leader says GOP's number one goal is defeating Obama in 2012 - National Political Buzz | Examiner.com

Were you upset at all by any of the above check-list idealogical path?

All that you mention there is chicken feed compared to the efforts the Democrats put forth in order to defeat, nay, DESTROY, George W. Bush. Long before he was even elected, never mind, inaugurated.

So, stop your self-righteous and hypocritical feelings of hurt.

At least Republicans were honest enough, unlike your ilk, to try to defeat Obama based on the undeniable lack of his preparedness, his self-declared desire to destroy his country by energy prices that would "necessarily sky rocket" (obviously he never had, does not now and never will have an idea that a nation is only as strong as its industry) while the Democrats cried that Bush "stole the election" in 2000 and got lucky in 2004, and all the while picturing him as a monkey, an ape and an idiot.

So, stop your self-righteous and hypocritical feelings of hurt.

No my wrong, and very angry brother...Baby Bush handily destroyed HIMSELF with his failed Presidencies and policies. No one had to help him with that.

The rest of your diatribe is pretty much standard fare RW rhetoric.

 

[AsheedMidrarwz]

Benghazi, Libya hands down. This is irreversible. It should have been anticipated and prepared for. Many decisions that any political leader makes can be rectified or amended by their successors and then there are these decisions that cost the lives of very good Americans.

See if I got this correct.

The President (any President) is supposed to involve themselves in running the day to day security of our embassies?

I don't think so. And he accepted responsibility along with his sec of state.


But did you feel so strongly against Geroge Bush when 3000+ innocent people got killed under his watch?

4 vs 3000. You do the math.

9/11 has nothing to do with our embassies not being protected.

 

[AsheedMidrarwz]

So your belief is basically that after a Democrat wins, he should immediately pander to and act like a Republican.

Is that it?

What were your thoughts and feelings about the Republican Party's meeting and plan to stop Obama during the inaugaration?

The Immoral Minority: New book reveals that Republicans held secret meeting deciding to obstruct EVERYTHING President Obama tried to do the DAY he was inaugurated. By a show of hands who did not already suspect that?

Do you think that Jim Demint's language of "we must break him?" bi-partisan?

Sen. Jim DeMint calls defeating Obama like Waterloo - YouTube

How about the GOP's goal, led by Mitch McConnell that their number one goal is to defeat President Barack Obama and make him a one-term President...

Republican leader says GOP's number one goal is defeating Obama in 2012 - National Political Buzz | Examiner.com

Were you upset at all by any of the above check-list idealogical path?

All that you mention there is chicken feed compared to the efforts the Democrats put forth in order to defeat, nay, DESTROY, George W. Bush. Long before he was even elected, never mind, inaugurated.

So, stop your self-righteous and hypocritical feelings of hurt.

At least Republicans were honest enough, unlike your ilk, to try to defeat Obama based on the undeniable lack of his preparedness, his self-declared desire to destroy his country by energy prices that would "necessarily sky rocket" (obviously he never had, does not now and never will have an idea that a nation is only as strong as its industry) while the Democrats cried that Bush "stole the election" in 2000 and got lucky in 2004, and all the while picturing him as a monkey, an ape and an idiot.

So, stop your self-righteous and hypocritical feelings of hurt.

No my wrong, and very angry brother...Baby Bush handily destroyed HIMSELF with his failed Presidencies and policies. No one had to help him with that.

The rest of your diatribe is pretty much standard fare RW rhetoric.

Your President told us al queda is on the run. Looks like they're running over our embassies.

 

[GuyPinestra]

Clearly, this is directed to The Republicans and self-proclaimed Conservatives of USMB.

When, exactly, did you realize that you really didn't like Obama and were going to be against him no matter what?

I'll answer the question in the reverse as an example. Some years ago, when Bush was first elected, I disliked him. I didn't like what he stood for, didn't like what he said, I didn't even like the way he sounded, he sounds dumb and he's proven himself to be such. Anyway, I wasn't totally or automatically against him. What turned me against him permanently, was what he did with the good will of The American People after the country was attacked.

He lied about the WMDs, he kept the country in state of constant fear, and he waged two unnecessary wars. To top it off, he didn't pay for it at the time and sent the bill to our kids and grandkids.

To be precise, from the instant he began that fear campaign war campaign, he lost me forever. I will NEVER forgive him for that.

So, when did you Republicans, Conservatives and other assorted RWers of USMB decide to be against Obama no matter what?

C'mon, be honest.

The minute I heard this....

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsapJii1rMY]Barack Obama On Redistribution of Wealth - YouTube[/ame]

What, no pithy retorts to this, Marc?

 

[Connery]

Benghazi, Libya hands down. This is irreversible. It should have been anticipated and prepared for. Many decisions that any political leader makes can be rectified or amended by their successors and then there are these decisions that cost the lives of very good Americans.

See if I got this correct.

The President (any President) is supposed to involve themselves in running the day to day security of our embassies?

I don't think so. And he accepted responsibility along with his sec of state.


But did you feel so strongly against Geroge Bush when 3000+ innocent people got killed under his watch?

4 vs 3000. You do the math.

It is the president's job to choose someone who is capable and able to do the job. That person is responsible for the smooth operation of the agency or department they are charged with running. This failure was pure negligence and could have been prevented.

Which incident are you discussing regarding Bush?