Bakers fined for not working homosexual "wedding" continue fighting for their freedoms

[2aguy]

Making someone do work they do not want to do.....you call that slavery.....which the democrats know quite well....they owned blacks as slaves for a very long time...now they want to own everyone as slaves....even bakers....

Interesting take...what if your boss tells you to do something you don't like? Slavery? Just like black slavery?

I quite....these bakers refused and had their business taken from them and it they don't pay their fine...they go to jail......that is slavery.

 

[owebo]

Making someone do work they do not want to do.....you call that slavery.....which the democrats know quite well....they owned blacks as slaves for a very long time...now they want to own everyone as slaves....even bakers....

Interesting take...what if your boss tells you to do something you don't like? Slavery? Just like black slavery?

So, using that stupid fucktard logic....if my boss does something I don't like, I should be ableto force him to do what I want....

You're a fascist democrat....

 

[IsaacNewton]

Doctors would be free to only treat people of their own religion. You can't separate people by vocation. "Well bakers can discriminate but doctors can't". Why? If they are the same religion and a doctor doesn't want to treat someone that is Hindu, or Atheist, how exactly do you justify one getting to pick and choose and not another.

Is the doctor being forced to take part in a homosexual "marriage"....the answer is NO! So you can't compare the 2.

He sells a commodity. Yes let us now draw up a 50,000 page document on who one can and can't refuse to sell goods to. Freckles? Get out!!

No the hospital sells a commodity and healthcare is NOT a commodity its a damn right. Having a christian couple take part in your homosexual "wedding" is against their religious rights,healing someone has NOTHING to do with a wedding or funeral.

Well healthcare is almost a right, but the Republicans want to take that right away from everyone.

Please explain which doctors where do not charge for treating people or performing surgery on them?

 

[bodecea]

The Civil Rights Act of 1965 says I am

It is unConstitutional......

Where did you get your Constitutional law degree?

Reading the Constitution......

Congrats...I read it too...and disagree with you. And guess what? Those with Constitution law degrees and years on the bench making Constitutionality rulings disagree with you too.

I bet all you fascists do....

Interesting...a fascist does as they want...like you... regardless of what the Constitution and it's duly sworn interpreters interpret.

 

[SuperDemocrat]

Doctors would be free to only treat people of their own religion. You can't separate people by vocation. "Well bakers can discriminate but doctors can't". Why? If they are the same religion and a doctor doesn't want to treat someone that is Hindu, or Atheist, how exactly do you justify one getting to pick and choose and not another.

Is the doctor being forced to take part in a homosexual "marriage"....the answer is NO! So you can't compare the 2.

He sells a commodity. Yes let us now draw up a 50,000 page document on who one can and can't refuse to sell goods to. Freckles? Get out!!

No the hospital sells a commodity and healthcare is NOT a commodity its a damn right. Having a christian couple take part in your homosexual "wedding" is against their religious rights,healing someone has NOTHING to do with a wedding or funeral.

A Christian couple does not have to take part in a homosexual wedding..
But a business does. Serve one...serve all
We don't serve negroes is not an option, neither is we don't serve gays

Wouldn't you be forcing a christian couple to participate if they happen to be the only employees? POOF! Your argument just blew up! LOL

 

[2aguy]

For crying out loud!

Stop whining and bake the fucking cake

So, stop in here,

and ask them to make a cake celebrating Hitlers birthday

They could refuse that. It's a very different request than the one in this case. You people are horribly uninformed.

Is it?

You don't think the Christian couple find the gay wedding as distasteful as the other bakery finds Hitler?

You can refuse to put language on a cake. That's protected by the first amendment. But you can't refuse to sell them your product just because you hate folks like them.

Why not?

Notice how that moron says they hate gays........as Christians they don't hate people.......they just can't participate in a gay wedding....

 

[rightwinger]

Doctors would be free to only treat people of their own religion. You can't separate people by vocation. "Well bakers can discriminate but doctors can't". Why? If they are the same religion and a doctor doesn't want to treat someone that is Hindu, or Atheist, how exactly do you justify one getting to pick and choose and not another.

Is the doctor being forced to take part in a homosexual "marriage"....the answer is NO! So you can't compare the 2.

He sells a commodity. Yes let us now draw up a 50,000 page document on who one can and can't refuse to sell goods to. Freckles? Get out!!

No the hospital sells a commodity and healthcare is NOT a commodity its a damn right. Having a christian couple take part in your homosexual "wedding" is against their religious rights,healing someone has NOTHING to do with a wedding or funeral.

A Christian couple does not have to take part in a homosexual wedding..
But a business does. Serve one...serve all
We don't serve negroes is not an option, neither is we don't serve gays

They are protected by the First Amendment.....freedom of religion...you don't get to tell them what their religion allows....

Nobody is denying them the First Amendment. They are free to hate anyone they wish
However, as a business they must conform with the rules established in their community. God hates fags is not recognized

 

[TheOldSchool]

For crying out loud!

Stop whining and bake the fucking cake

So, stop in here,

and ask them to make a cake celebrating Hitlers birthday

They could refuse that. It's a very different request than the one in this case. You people are horribly uninformed.

Is it?

You don't think the Christian couple find the gay wedding as distasteful as the other bakery finds Hitler?

You can refuse to put language on a cake. That's protected by the first amendment. But you can't refuse to sell them your product just because you hate folks like them.

Why not?

Transcript of the Constitution of the United States - Official Text

 

[owebo]

It is unConstitutional......

Where did you get your Constitutional law degree?

Reading the Constitution......

Congrats...I read it too...and disagree with you. And guess what? Those with Constitution law degrees and years on the bench making Constitutionality rulings disagree with you too.

I bet all you fascists do....

Interesting...a fascist does as they want...like you... regardless of what the Constitution and it's duly sworn interpreters interpret.

No....a fascist, like you, forces people to do what they want them to do....

 

[bodecea]

Making someone do work they do not want to do.....you call that slavery.....which the democrats know quite well....they owned blacks as slaves for a very long time...now they want to own everyone as slaves....even bakers....

Interesting take...what if your boss tells you to do something you don't like? Slavery? Just like black slavery?

So, using that stupid fucktard logic....if my boss does something I don't like, I should be ableto force him to do what I want....

You're a fascist democrat....

So...in your world, someone who goes by Constitutional law is a fascist. Interesting....wrong by definition...but interesting. No wonder you are having trouble here.

 

[dblack]

Christian Bakers Fined For Not Working Gay Wedding Continue Fighting For Their Freedoms

Good for them and the last paragraph is spot on!

They have every right to argue their case in court- even though they are wrong.

Every right except the freedom to decide who they will work for, eh?

 

[2aguy]

It is unConstitutional......

Where did you get your Constitutional law degree?

Reading the Constitution......

Congrats...I read it too...and disagree with you. And guess what? Those with Constitution law degrees and years on the bench making Constitutionality rulings disagree with you too.

I bet all you fascists do....

Interesting...a fascist does as they want...like you... regardless of what the Constitution and it's duly sworn interpreters interpret.

Yes....and the duly sworn interpreters said Separate but equal was Constitutional too.....and any number of unConstitutional acts......

No...a fascist uses the power of the state to tell a private business what they can or can't do with their private property....just like you are doing here....

 

[owebo]

Is the doctor being forced to take part in a homosexual "marriage"....the answer is NO! So you can't compare the 2.

He sells a commodity. Yes let us now draw up a 50,000 page document on who one can and can't refuse to sell goods to. Freckles? Get out!!

No the hospital sells a commodity and healthcare is NOT a commodity its a damn right. Having a christian couple take part in your homosexual "wedding" is against their religious rights,healing someone has NOTHING to do with a wedding or funeral.

A Christian couple does not have to take part in a homosexual wedding..
But a business does. Serve one...serve all
We don't serve negroes is not an option, neither is we don't serve gays

They are protected by the First Amendment.....freedom of religion...you don't get to tell them what their religion allows....

Nobody is denying them the First Amendment. They are free to hate anyone they wish
However, as a business they must conform with the rules established in their community. God hates fags is not recognized

So, you want to force them to do What?

 

[bodecea]

Where did you get your Constitutional law degree?

Reading the Constitution......

Congrats...I read it too...and disagree with you. And guess what? Those with Constitution law degrees and years on the bench making Constitutionality rulings disagree with you too.

I bet all you fascists do....

Interesting...a fascist does as they want...like you... regardless of what the Constitution and it's duly sworn interpreters interpret.

No....a fascist, like you, forces people to do what they want them to do....

I don't force anyone to do anything...but it's clear you like to make stuff up.

 

[2aguy]

It is unConstitutional......

Where did you get your Constitutional law degree?

Reading the Constitution......

Congrats...I read it too...and disagree with you. And guess what? Those with Constitution law degrees and years on the bench making Constitutionality rulings disagree with you too.

I bet all you fascists do....

Interesting...a fascist does as they want...like you... regardless of what the Constitution and it's duly sworn interpreters interpret.

Those duly sworn interpreters thought these laws were Constitutional too........put faith in lawyers and see how screwed up things get....

6 Supreme Court Decisions That Were Totally Wrong

1. Dred Scott v. Sanford (1857)


In arguably the worst decision ever, the Supreme Court ruled that black people were not entitled to the same right of citizenship as white people. After Dred Scott, a former slave who had lived in the free state of Illinois and free territory of Wisconsin, had moved back to the slave state of Missouri, it was found that he should be returned to slavery. Scott appealed to the Supreme Court seeking his freedom. The court ruled against Scott and also ruled that the 1820 Missouri Compromise was unconstitutional, making slavery constitutionally permitted throughout the entire country and its territories.

Plessy v. Ferguson (1896)


This ruling upheld separate but equal and established “apartheid” as the law of the land. The ruling would stand until overturned by Brown v. Board of Education in 1954, and its descendant Jim Crow would remain the de facto law of the South until the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Plessy was a bi-racial man who refused to move from a “blacks-only” railway car in Louisiana. The Supreme Court ruled that Louisiana’s Separate Car Act did not contradict the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. The court declared that the Constitution guaranteed legal but not social equality. Although the opinion itself does not contain the language “separate but equal," legal segregation was the de facto effect.

3. Pace v. Alabama (1883)


In Alabama, interracial marriage was a crime punishable by two to seven years of hard labor in a state penitentiary. Tony Pace, a black man, and Mary Cox, a white woman, challenged the law. The Supreme Court ruled that the law was constitutional because it was “race-neutral” and therefore did not violate the Fourteenth Amendment. The ruling was finally overturned in Loving v. Virginia(1967).

4. Korematsu v. United States (1944)


The ruling determined that Japanese internment during World War II was constitutional. Chief Justice Hugo Black wrote that the need to protect American from espionage outweighed the individual rights of Fred Korematsu and the civil rights of all Americans of Japanese descent.

The Court refused to address all the other civil rights violations that marked the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II. Korematsu also lost a later ruling that established that individual rights are not absolute and could be suspended during wartime.

 

[owebo]

Reading the Constitution......

Congrats...I read it too...and disagree with you. And guess what? Those with Constitution law degrees and years on the bench making Constitutionality rulings disagree with you too.

I bet all you fascists do....

Interesting...a fascist does as they want...like you... regardless of what the Constitution and it's duly sworn interpreters interpret.

No....a fascist, like you, forces people to do what they want them to do....

I don't force anyone to do anything...but it's clear you like to make stuff up.

So, you're ok with the bakers not making the cake...

Why didn't you just say that?

 

[SuperDemocrat]

Doctors would be free to only treat people of their own religion. You can't separate people by vocation. "Well bakers can discriminate but doctors can't". Why? If they are the same religion and a doctor doesn't want to treat someone that is Hindu, or Atheist, how exactly do you justify one getting to pick and choose and not another.

Is the doctor being forced to take part in a homosexual "marriage"....the answer is NO! So you can't compare the 2.

He sells a commodity. Yes let us now draw up a 50,000 page document on who one can and can't refuse to sell goods to. Freckles? Get out!!

No the hospital sells a commodity and healthcare is NOT a commodity its a damn right. Having a christian couple take part in your homosexual "wedding" is against their religious rights,healing someone has NOTHING to do with a wedding or funeral.

Well healthcare is almost a right, but the Republicans want to take that right away from everyone.

Please explain which doctors where do not charge for treating people or performing surgery on them?

How is healthcare not a right? Are you prohibited from buying some on your own?

 

[bodecea]

Making someone do work they do not want to do.....you call that slavery.....which the democrats know quite well....they owned blacks as slaves for a very long time...now they want to own everyone as slaves....even bakers....

Interesting take...what if your boss tells you to do something you don't like? Slavery? Just like black slavery?

So, using that stupid fucktard logic....if my boss does something I don't like, I should be ableto force him to do what I want....

You're a fascist democrat....

How come you avoid answering my question? Did you finally realize how stupid your argument was, but too embarrassed to admit it?

 

[TheOldSchool]

So, stop in here,

and ask them to make a cake celebrating Hitlers birthday

They could refuse that. It's a very different request than the one in this case. You people are horribly uninformed.

Is it?

You don't think the Christian couple find the gay wedding as distasteful as the other bakery finds Hitler?

You can refuse to put language on a cake. That's protected by the first amendment. But you can't refuse to sell them your product just because you hate folks like them.

Why not?

Notice how that moron says they hate gays........as Christians they don't hate people.......they just can't participate in a gay wedding....

"I don't hate you, I just think you're a shameless sinner who's going to burn in hell for all eternity and don't deserve any rights."

 

[bodecea]

Congrats...I read it too...and disagree with you. And guess what? Those with Constitution law degrees and years on the bench making Constitutionality rulings disagree with you too.

I bet all you fascists do....

Interesting...a fascist does as they want...like you... regardless of what the Constitution and it's duly sworn interpreters interpret.

No....a fascist, like you, forces people to do what they want them to do....

I don't force anyone to do anything...but it's clear you like to make stuff up.

So, you're ok with the bakers not making the cake...

Why didn't you just say that?

Sure they don't have to...then Oregon can revoke their business license...easy peasy.