Baltimore trying to lower murder rate, democrats fighting the effort...

[2aguy]

Baltimore has more gun murders than other major cities and it has a tiny population....they have been experiencing a murder rate that is horrible....and the cause? Democrat policies that have been putting violent criminals.....gun criminals, back on their streets.....and now, as they are trying to reverse the murder rate, who is in their way...democrats....

Baltimore politicians rediscover the value of tough sentencing

Thus, we find Baltimore mayor Catherine Pugh and a sizable number of delegates backing legislation that would raise the maximum sentence from 20 years to 40 years for a second-time offender who uses a firearm in connection with drug trafficking or to commit a violent crime. The legislation would also double the penalty for witness intimidation to 10 years in prison and a fine of $10,000.

In addition, it would would repeal a law that allows a defendant charged with or serving a sentence for a violent crime to be transferred from jail for drug treatment.

Civil rights advocates and defense lawyers are not amused. They tell the Washington Post that the legislation reminds them of the tougher penalties enacted by Congress in the 1980s as part of the war on drugs.

 

[DGS49]

I have the impression that a better strategy is to put more police in high-crime areas. And make use of "predictive policing" technology and techniques. Modern science has shown that it is possible to largely predict where crimes will occur and who is likely to commit violent crimes. This bothers civil libertarians, but it is promising.

Prison sentences of more than ten years seem to me like punishing the taxpayers with no measurable benefit.

Longer sentences as a "deterrent" doesn't have a good track record of success.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Baltimore has more gun murders than other major cities and it has a tiny population....they have been experiencing a murder rate that is horrible....and the cause? Democrat policies that have been putting violent criminals.....gun criminals, back on their streets.....and now, as they are trying to reverse the murder rate, who is in their way...democrats....

Baltimore politicians rediscover the value of tough sentencing

Thus, we find Baltimore mayor Catherine Pugh and a sizable number of delegates backing legislation that would raise the maximum sentence from 20 years to 40 years for a second-time offender who uses a firearm in connection with drug trafficking or to commit a violent crime. The legislation would also double the penalty for witness intimidation to 10 years in prison and a fine of $10,000.

In addition, it would would repeal a law that allows a defendant charged with or serving a sentence for a violent crime to be transferred from jail for drug treatment.

Civil rights advocates and defense lawyers are not amused. They tell the Washington Post that the legislation reminds them of the tougher penalties enacted by Congress in the 1980s as part of the war on drugs.

Give them room to destroy.

 

[S.J.]

Keep gun violence high by keeping the criminals on the streets, then push for more gun control as a solution. Democrats don't care who gets hurt in the process as long as it serves their long term goals of disarming the public.

 

[2aguy]

I have the impression that a better strategy is to put more police in high-crime areas. And make use of "predictive policing" technology and techniques. Modern science has shown that it is possible to largely predict where crimes will occur and who is likely to commit violent crimes. This bothers civil libertarians, but it is promising.

Prison sentences of more than ten years seem to me like punishing the taxpayers with no measurable benefit.

Longer sentences as a "deterrent" doesn't have a good track record of success.

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The benefit of long prison sentences is that the criminals most likely to commit murder will be locked up...since the police know who they are, usually have arrested them over and over again for actual gun crimes, but they are repeatedly let out by democrat policies.....

The cost of keeping a criminal locked up is less than having them out in the street...look up how much a criminal on the street costs society vs. having them locked up...it is better to have them locked up.

Japan uses long prison sentences to keep the Yakuza from using guns...and it works....the 49% drop in gun murder from the 1990s to today, and the 75% drop in gun crime comes from longer prison sentences here......

How prison sentences in Japan lowered their gun crime...

http://www.atimes.com/article/japans-gun-control-laws-strict-yakuza-turn-toy-pistols/



Ryo Fujiwara, long-time writer on yakuza affairs and author of the book, The Three Yamaguchi-Gumi, says that the punishment for using a gun in a gang war or in a crime is now so heavy that most yakuza avoid their use at all – unless it is for an assassination.

“In a hit, whoever fires the gun, or is made to take responsibility for firing the gun, has to pretty much be willing to go to jail for the rest of their life. That’s a big decision. The repercussions are big, too. No one wants to claim responsibility for such acts – the gang office might actually get shut-down.”

The gang typically also has to support the family of the hit-man while he is in prison, which is also a financial burden for the organization.

Japan’s Firearms and Swords Control Laws make it a crime to illegally possess a gun, with a punishment of jail time of up to 10 years.

Illegal possession more than one gun, the penalty goes up to 15 years in prison. If you own a gun and matching ammunition, that’s another charge and a heavier penalty. The most severe penalty is for the act of discharging a gun in a train, on a bus, or most public spaces, which can result in a life sentence.

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A low-ranking member of the Kobe-Yamaguchi-gumi put it this way: “All of the smart guys got rid of their guns a long-time ago. The penalties are way too high. You get life in prison if you just fire a gun. That’s not fun.”

 

[blastoff]

I have the impression that a better strategy is to put more police in high-crime areas. And make use of "predictive policing" technology and techniques. Modern science has shown that it is possible to largely predict where crimes will occur and who is likely to commit violent crimes. This bothers civil libertarians, but it is promising.

Prison sentences of more than ten years seem to me like punishing the taxpayers with no measurable benefit.

Longer sentences as a "deterrent" doesn't have a good track record of success.

I don't need a whole lot of modern science to predict exactly where in Chicago violent crimes will be committed and by whom.