Because of no right to own firearms...

The violent crime rate is high in the US due to progressive controlled urban areas.
Violent crime is almost nonexistent in rural America where most of the firearms are owned legally, and the gun control laws are lax... dumbass
You mean black Ghettos caused by GOP racists? LOL. As a gun shop owner, do you think you are biased LOL?
They are not Progressive controlled they are controlled by blacks now. 35 years of the GOP screwing the poor and blacks are the poorest because of discrimination.

Blacks are Democrats because they know the GOP is full of racists. They are not particularly Progressive.
Explain in detail how 50 years of democrat control is some how not real but your ignorant claim republicans that had nothing to do with those cities government are to blame for their problems?
Republicans have dominated the last 35 or 50 years and obstructed everything but ACA. They have cut services and infrastructure investment and of course the Ghettos do the worst, all to save the rich... You dupes seem to think they are the epitome of Democratic policy. You're f****** nuts LOL
Obama care is a cancer

Do you support the VA Health Care? And why? And don't go off on we owe it to the boys and girls that wore the uniform. Trust me, the civilian health care is so screwed up right now it's a friggin mess. And you can no longer blame it on Obamacare. This is completely owned by your Trumpets. I have no choice but to use the VA facilities even though I should be 100% covered less $175 deductible for the year. But trying to find a GP to accept it just ain't happening. Oh, yes, I can get one just above a horse doctor but not a good one. And my medicine costs would be outrageous. So I use the VA who bills Medicare and Tricare and I use copay for medicine.

I don't want to see the VA privatized. The Private or Civilian Medical is a disaster and it becomes even a bigger disaster as you get older. I want to see the Civilian Medical use the VA as a blueprint. The VA works and it works well no matter how much bad press it gets. To us that use it, we know that it's a far cry better than the Civilian Medical System.
 
The violent crime rate is high in the US due to progressive controlled urban areas.
Violent crime is almost nonexistent in rural America where most of the firearms are owned legally, and the gun control laws are lax... dumbass

Jeez Louis. Rural America has almost no population at all. There is no way in hell that most of the firearms are in the Rural Areas. You need population to do that. I am seeing that your bunch is going off the rails and making some pretty outlandish claims trying to win. You are losing. Move on to the next battle. This one is lost for you.
Na, not really.
Trump will most likely be able to nominate 2 maybe 3 Supreme Court Justices to sure up the second amendment.
And rural America owns most of America’s legally held firearms...

You are so full of shit about the amount of guns in Rural America. There just aren't enough population in Rural America to go around. Remember, there cupcake, I grew up Rural America. So stop lying. And move onto something else. You lost this one.
 
You mean black Ghettos caused by GOP racists? LOL. As a gun shop owner, do you think you are biased LOL?
They are not Progressive controlled they are controlled by blacks now. 35 years of the GOP screwing the poor and blacks are the poorest because of discrimination.

Blacks are Democrats because they know the GOP is full of racists. They are not particularly Progressive.
Explain in detail how 50 years of democrat control is some how not real but your ignorant claim republicans that had nothing to do with those cities government are to blame for their problems?
Republicans have dominated the last 35 or 50 years and obstructed everything but ACA. They have cut services and infrastructure investment and of course the Ghettos do the worst, all to save the rich... You dupes seem to think they are the epitome of Democratic policy. You're f****** nuts LOL
Obama care is a cancer

Do you support the VA Health Care? And why? And don't go off on we owe it to the boys and girls that wore the uniform. Trust me, the civilian health care is so screwed up right now it's a friggin mess. And you can no longer blame it on Obamacare. This is completely owned by your Trumpets. I have no choice but to use the VA facilities even though I should be 100% covered less $175 deductible for the year. But trying to find a GP to accept it just ain't happening. Oh, yes, I can get one just above a horse doctor but not a good one. And my medicine costs would be outrageous. So I use the VA who bills Medicare and Tricare and I use copay for medicine.

I don't want to see the VA privatized. The Private or Civilian Medical is a disaster and it becomes even a bigger disaster as you get older. I want to see the Civilian Medical use the VA as a blueprint. The VA works and it works well no matter how much bad press it gets. To us that use it, we know that it's a far cry better than the Civilian Medical System.
I don’t trust any sort of collective care, certainly not government controlled.
It does not have me or my family’s best interests in mind whatsoever.
 
You mean black Ghettos caused by GOP racists? LOL. As a gun shop owner, do you think you are biased LOL?
They are not Progressive controlled they are controlled by blacks now. 35 years of the GOP screwing the poor and blacks are the poorest because of discrimination.

Blacks are Democrats because they know the GOP is full of racists. They are not particularly Progressive.
Explain in detail how 50 years of democrat control is some how not real but your ignorant claim republicans that had nothing to do with those cities government are to blame for their problems?
Republicans have dominated the last 35 or 50 years and obstructed everything but ACA. They have cut services and infrastructure investment and of course the Ghettos do the worst, all to save the rich... You dupes seem to think they are the epitome of Democratic policy. You're f****** nuts LOL
Obama care is a cancer

Do you support the VA Health Care? And why? And don't go off on we owe it to the boys and girls that wore the uniform. Trust me, the civilian health care is so screwed up right now it's a friggin mess. And you can no longer blame it on Obamacare. This is completely owned by your Trumpets. I have no choice but to use the VA facilities even though I should be 100% covered less $175 deductible for the year. But trying to find a GP to accept it just ain't happening. Oh, yes, I can get one just above a horse doctor but not a good one. And my medicine costs would be outrageous. So I use the VA who bills Medicare and Tricare and I use copay for medicine.

I don't want to see the VA privatized. The Private or Civilian Medical is a disaster and it becomes even a bigger disaster as you get older. I want to see the Civilian Medical use the VA as a blueprint. The VA works and it works well no matter how much bad press it gets. To us that use it, we know that it's a far cry better than the Civilian Medical System.

Why do you have no choice but to use the VA medical?
 
They are not Progressive controlled they are controlled by blacks now. 35 years of the GOP screwing the poor and blacks are the poorest because of discrimination.

Blacks are Democrats because they know the GOP is full of racists. They are not particularly Progressive.
Explain in detail how 50 years of democrat control is some how not real but your ignorant claim republicans that had nothing to do with those cities government are to blame for their problems?
Republicans have dominated the last 35 or 50 years and obstructed everything but ACA. They have cut services and infrastructure investment and of course the Ghettos do the worst, all to save the rich... You dupes seem to think they are the epitome of Democratic policy. You're f****** nuts LOL
Obama care is a cancer

Do you support the VA Health Care? And why? And don't go off on we owe it to the boys and girls that wore the uniform. Trust me, the civilian health care is so screwed up right now it's a friggin mess. And you can no longer blame it on Obamacare. This is completely owned by your Trumpets. I have no choice but to use the VA facilities even though I should be 100% covered less $175 deductible for the year. But trying to find a GP to accept it just ain't happening. Oh, yes, I can get one just above a horse doctor but not a good one. And my medicine costs would be outrageous. So I use the VA who bills Medicare and Tricare and I use copay for medicine.

I don't want to see the VA privatized. The Private or Civilian Medical is a disaster and it becomes even a bigger disaster as you get older. I want to see the Civilian Medical use the VA as a blueprint. The VA works and it works well no matter how much bad press it gets. To us that use it, we know that it's a far cry better than the Civilian Medical System.
I don’t trust any sort of collective care, certainly not government controlled.
It does not have me or my family’s best interests in mind whatsoever.

Then you need to be sent home to die. Or pay the highest premium cost for it there is. The rest of us deserve quality care at quality cost. But you have my permission to go home and die if you wish.
 
The violent crime rate is high in the US due to progressive controlled urban areas.
Violent crime is almost nonexistent in rural America where most of the firearms are owned legally, and the gun control laws are lax... dumbass

Jeez Louis. Rural America has almost no population at all. There is no way in hell that most of the firearms are in the Rural Areas. You need population to do that. I am seeing that your bunch is going off the rails and making some pretty outlandish claims trying to win. You are losing. Move on to the next battle. This one is lost for you.
Na, not really.
Trump will most likely be able to nominate 2 maybe 3 Supreme Court Justices to sure up the second amendment.
And rural America owns most of America’s legally held firearms...

You are so full of shit about the amount of guns in Rural America. There just aren't enough population in Rural America to go around. Remember, there cupcake, I grew up Rural America. So stop lying. And move onto something else. You lost this one.
Na, progressive blue urban America have hardly any legally held firearms.
Rural red America is where most of the legally held firearms are. Fact
You progressives don’t believe in firearm ownership in any form, you want to abolish the second amendment...

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Explain in detail how 50 years of democrat control is some how not real but your ignorant claim republicans that had nothing to do with those cities government are to blame for their problems?
Republicans have dominated the last 35 or 50 years and obstructed everything but ACA. They have cut services and infrastructure investment and of course the Ghettos do the worst, all to save the rich... You dupes seem to think they are the epitome of Democratic policy. You're f****** nuts LOL
Obama care is a cancer

Do you support the VA Health Care? And why? And don't go off on we owe it to the boys and girls that wore the uniform. Trust me, the civilian health care is so screwed up right now it's a friggin mess. And you can no longer blame it on Obamacare. This is completely owned by your Trumpets. I have no choice but to use the VA facilities even though I should be 100% covered less $175 deductible for the year. But trying to find a GP to accept it just ain't happening. Oh, yes, I can get one just above a horse doctor but not a good one. And my medicine costs would be outrageous. So I use the VA who bills Medicare and Tricare and I use copay for medicine.

I don't want to see the VA privatized. The Private or Civilian Medical is a disaster and it becomes even a bigger disaster as you get older. I want to see the Civilian Medical use the VA as a blueprint. The VA works and it works well no matter how much bad press it gets. To us that use it, we know that it's a far cry better than the Civilian Medical System.
I don’t trust any sort of collective care, certainly not government controlled.
It does not have me or my family’s best interests in mind whatsoever.

Then you need to be sent home to die. Or pay the highest premium cost for it there is. The rest of us deserve quality care at quality cost. But you have my permission to go home and die if you wish.
I pay out of pocket, have for 20+ years.
I have never bought insurance and never intend to
 
They are not Progressive controlled they are controlled by blacks now. 35 years of the GOP screwing the poor and blacks are the poorest because of discrimination.

Blacks are Democrats because they know the GOP is full of racists. They are not particularly Progressive.
Explain in detail how 50 years of democrat control is some how not real but your ignorant claim republicans that had nothing to do with those cities government are to blame for their problems?
Republicans have dominated the last 35 or 50 years and obstructed everything but ACA. They have cut services and infrastructure investment and of course the Ghettos do the worst, all to save the rich... You dupes seem to think they are the epitome of Democratic policy. You're f****** nuts LOL
Obama care is a cancer

Do you support the VA Health Care? And why? And don't go off on we owe it to the boys and girls that wore the uniform. Trust me, the civilian health care is so screwed up right now it's a friggin mess. And you can no longer blame it on Obamacare. This is completely owned by your Trumpets. I have no choice but to use the VA facilities even though I should be 100% covered less $175 deductible for the year. But trying to find a GP to accept it just ain't happening. Oh, yes, I can get one just above a horse doctor but not a good one. And my medicine costs would be outrageous. So I use the VA who bills Medicare and Tricare and I use copay for medicine.

I don't want to see the VA privatized. The Private or Civilian Medical is a disaster and it becomes even a bigger disaster as you get older. I want to see the Civilian Medical use the VA as a blueprint. The VA works and it works well no matter how much bad press it gets. To us that use it, we know that it's a far cry better than the Civilian Medical System.

Why do you have no choice but to use the VA medical?

We have a shortage of Civilian Doctors accepting Medicare patients. It appears that quite a few figured out a way to make extra money by forming Medical Clubs where you pay X amount of Dollars to join the club and then they will take care of you. If you can't afford to join the club, you will get substandard care. What some of the Doctors are doing is freezing out the HMOs that way by making their own HMOs. With the shortage of GPs that accept new Medicare Patients, many are left to go to clinics that are just one step above a Veterinarian Clinic. In fact, some Vet Clinics are better. I am one of the lucky few that have the option to be able to use the VA Hospital for in and out patient care as well as long term and medicine.

Since the Civilian Care is so poor, the VA has opened it's doors to us. Without it, we would be in dire straits. They don't have to. Actually, they do but they can handle us in a space A type way. WE end up using the VA for Universal Health Care and it works well.

The VA is very cost conscience. The Doctors and staff make less than the Civilian Hospitals. Have more employment rules. The VA support staff is generally short handed but the folks they have are aces. There is no long waiting. You get in and out fast, get the help you need and the medicine and you are out the door. Unlike the Civilian Counterpart where you will spend hours on one visit. If the VA doesn't have the specialtist you need, they will refer you to a civilian specialtist who will also be prompt and get you in and out in a timely manner. The Civilian Sector could learn a whole hell of a lot from the VA in cutting costs, time management and other things. I would like to see the VA boilerplate used in Civilian Medicine. Instead, the Civilian Medical Community keeps trying to break the VA down to their own way of doing things. Not on my watch.
 
The crime rate in Europe is much lower than it is in the U.S.
The violent crime rate is high in the US due to progressive controlled urban areas.
Violent crime is almost nonexistent in rural America where most of the firearms are owned legally, and the gun control laws are lax... dumbass

Jeez Louis. Rural America has almost no population at all. There is no way in hell that most of the firearms are in the Rural Areas. You need population to do that. I am seeing that your bunch is going off the rails and making some pretty outlandish claims trying to win. You are losing. Move on to the next battle. This one is lost for you.
Na, not really.
Trump will most likely be able to nominate 2 maybe 3 Supreme Court Justices to sure up the second amendment.
And rural America owns most of America’s legally held firearms...

You are so full of shit about the amount of guns in Rural America. There just aren't enough population in Rural America to go around. Remember, there cupcake, I grew up Rural America. So stop lying. And move onto something else. You lost this one.
Na, progressive blue urban America have hardly any legally held firearms.
Rural red America is where most of the legally held firearms are. Fact
You progressives don’t believe in firearm ownership in any form, you want to abolish the second amendment...

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Wow, what a whopper on this one. You, meaning me, Progressives don't believe something? Are you saying that I, Personally, want to get rid of all guns? That I, personally, want the authorities to come to your home and collect all your firearms? That I, personally, want all households and businesses to have to surrender all firearms so that they can be destroyed? Now, show where I have said any of that.

Well, I have said that maybe we should have you sent to a Shrink to find out if you are stable enough to have a firearm of any kind. But that's just you.

You sure to like to lie, cupcake.
 
Explain in detail how 50 years of democrat control is some how not real but your ignorant claim republicans that had nothing to do with those cities government are to blame for their problems?
Republicans have dominated the last 35 or 50 years and obstructed everything but ACA. They have cut services and infrastructure investment and of course the Ghettos do the worst, all to save the rich... You dupes seem to think they are the epitome of Democratic policy. You're f****** nuts LOL
Obama care is a cancer

Do you support the VA Health Care? And why? And don't go off on we owe it to the boys and girls that wore the uniform. Trust me, the civilian health care is so screwed up right now it's a friggin mess. And you can no longer blame it on Obamacare. This is completely owned by your Trumpets. I have no choice but to use the VA facilities even though I should be 100% covered less $175 deductible for the year. But trying to find a GP to accept it just ain't happening. Oh, yes, I can get one just above a horse doctor but not a good one. And my medicine costs would be outrageous. So I use the VA who bills Medicare and Tricare and I use copay for medicine.

I don't want to see the VA privatized. The Private or Civilian Medical is a disaster and it becomes even a bigger disaster as you get older. I want to see the Civilian Medical use the VA as a blueprint. The VA works and it works well no matter how much bad press it gets. To us that use it, we know that it's a far cry better than the Civilian Medical System.

Why do you have no choice but to use the VA medical?

We have a shortage of Civilian Doctors accepting Medicare patients. It appears that quite a few figured out a way to make extra money by forming Medical Clubs where you pay X amount of Dollars to join the club and then they will take care of you. If you can't afford to join the club, you will get substandard care. What some of the Doctors are doing is freezing out the HMOs that way by making their own HMOs. With the shortage of GPs that accept new Medicare Patients, many are left to go to clinics that are just one step above a Veterinarian Clinic. In fact, some Vet Clinics are better. I am one of the lucky few that have the option to be able to use the VA Hospital for in and out patient care as well as long term and medicine.

Since the Civilian Care is so poor, the VA has opened it's doors to us. Without it, we would be in dire straits. They don't have to. Actually, they do but they can handle us in a space A type way. WE end up using the VA for Universal Health Care and it works well.

The VA is very cost conscience. The Doctors and staff make less than the Civilian Hospitals. Have more employment rules. The VA support staff is generally short handed but the folks they have are aces. There is no long waiting. You get in and out fast, get the help you need and the medicine and you are out the door. Unlike the Civilian Counterpart where you will spend hours on one visit. If the VA doesn't have the specialtist you need, they will refer you to a civilian specialtist who will also be prompt and get you in and out in a timely manner. The Civilian Sector could learn a whole hell of a lot from the VA in cutting costs, time management and other things. I would like to see the VA boilerplate used in Civilian Medicine. Instead, the Civilian Medical Community keeps trying to break the VA down to their own way of doing things. Not on my watch.
You can keep your socialized medicine, leave the rest of us out of it.
It does not require our participation.
It’s only fair to have socialized medicine as an “opt in”, for those that want it... the rest of us want nothing to do with it.
 
The violent crime rate is high in the US due to progressive controlled urban areas.
Violent crime is almost nonexistent in rural America where most of the firearms are owned legally, and the gun control laws are lax... dumbass

Jeez Louis. Rural America has almost no population at all. There is no way in hell that most of the firearms are in the Rural Areas. You need population to do that. I am seeing that your bunch is going off the rails and making some pretty outlandish claims trying to win. You are losing. Move on to the next battle. This one is lost for you.
Na, not really.
Trump will most likely be able to nominate 2 maybe 3 Supreme Court Justices to sure up the second amendment.
And rural America owns most of America’s legally held firearms...

You are so full of shit about the amount of guns in Rural America. There just aren't enough population in Rural America to go around. Remember, there cupcake, I grew up Rural America. So stop lying. And move onto something else. You lost this one.
Na, progressive blue urban America have hardly any legally held firearms.
Rural red America is where most of the legally held firearms are. Fact
You progressives don’t believe in firearm ownership in any form, you want to abolish the second amendment...

flat,800x800,075,f.u3.jpg

Wow, what a whopper on this one. You, meaning me, Progressives don't believe something? Are you saying that I, Personally, want to get rid of all guns? That I, personally, want the authorities to come to your home and collect all your firearms? That I, personally, want all households and businesses to have to surrender all firearms so that they can be destroyed? Now, show where I have said any of that.

Well, I have said that maybe we should have you sent to a Shrink to find out if you are stable enough to have a firearm of any kind. But that's just you.

You sure to like to lie, cupcake.
Spoken like a true blue anti-gun nutter, we can see right through you.
You have said many times you want to abolish the second amendment
 
Republicans have dominated the last 35 or 50 years and obstructed everything but ACA. They have cut services and infrastructure investment and of course the Ghettos do the worst, all to save the rich... You dupes seem to think they are the epitome of Democratic policy. You're f****** nuts LOL
Obama care is a cancer

Do you support the VA Health Care? And why? And don't go off on we owe it to the boys and girls that wore the uniform. Trust me, the civilian health care is so screwed up right now it's a friggin mess. And you can no longer blame it on Obamacare. This is completely owned by your Trumpets. I have no choice but to use the VA facilities even though I should be 100% covered less $175 deductible for the year. But trying to find a GP to accept it just ain't happening. Oh, yes, I can get one just above a horse doctor but not a good one. And my medicine costs would be outrageous. So I use the VA who bills Medicare and Tricare and I use copay for medicine.

I don't want to see the VA privatized. The Private or Civilian Medical is a disaster and it becomes even a bigger disaster as you get older. I want to see the Civilian Medical use the VA as a blueprint. The VA works and it works well no matter how much bad press it gets. To us that use it, we know that it's a far cry better than the Civilian Medical System.

Why do you have no choice but to use the VA medical?

We have a shortage of Civilian Doctors accepting Medicare patients. It appears that quite a few figured out a way to make extra money by forming Medical Clubs where you pay X amount of Dollars to join the club and then they will take care of you. If you can't afford to join the club, you will get substandard care. What some of the Doctors are doing is freezing out the HMOs that way by making their own HMOs. With the shortage of GPs that accept new Medicare Patients, many are left to go to clinics that are just one step above a Veterinarian Clinic. In fact, some Vet Clinics are better. I am one of the lucky few that have the option to be able to use the VA Hospital for in and out patient care as well as long term and medicine.

Since the Civilian Care is so poor, the VA has opened it's doors to us. Without it, we would be in dire straits. They don't have to. Actually, they do but they can handle us in a space A type way. WE end up using the VA for Universal Health Care and it works well.

The VA is very cost conscience. The Doctors and staff make less than the Civilian Hospitals. Have more employment rules. The VA support staff is generally short handed but the folks they have are aces. There is no long waiting. You get in and out fast, get the help you need and the medicine and you are out the door. Unlike the Civilian Counterpart where you will spend hours on one visit. If the VA doesn't have the specialtist you need, they will refer you to a civilian specialtist who will also be prompt and get you in and out in a timely manner. The Civilian Sector could learn a whole hell of a lot from the VA in cutting costs, time management and other things. I would like to see the VA boilerplate used in Civilian Medicine. Instead, the Civilian Medical Community keeps trying to break the VA down to their own way of doing things. Not on my watch.
You can keep your socialized medicine, leave the rest of us out of it.
It does not require our participation.
It’s only fair to have socialized medicine as an “opt in”, for those that want it... the rest of us want nothing to do with it.

So now you are speaking for everyone. Wow, how Trumpet of you.
 
Obama care is a cancer

Do you support the VA Health Care? And why? And don't go off on we owe it to the boys and girls that wore the uniform. Trust me, the civilian health care is so screwed up right now it's a friggin mess. And you can no longer blame it on Obamacare. This is completely owned by your Trumpets. I have no choice but to use the VA facilities even though I should be 100% covered less $175 deductible for the year. But trying to find a GP to accept it just ain't happening. Oh, yes, I can get one just above a horse doctor but not a good one. And my medicine costs would be outrageous. So I use the VA who bills Medicare and Tricare and I use copay for medicine.

I don't want to see the VA privatized. The Private or Civilian Medical is a disaster and it becomes even a bigger disaster as you get older. I want to see the Civilian Medical use the VA as a blueprint. The VA works and it works well no matter how much bad press it gets. To us that use it, we know that it's a far cry better than the Civilian Medical System.

Why do you have no choice but to use the VA medical?

We have a shortage of Civilian Doctors accepting Medicare patients. It appears that quite a few figured out a way to make extra money by forming Medical Clubs where you pay X amount of Dollars to join the club and then they will take care of you. If you can't afford to join the club, you will get substandard care. What some of the Doctors are doing is freezing out the HMOs that way by making their own HMOs. With the shortage of GPs that accept new Medicare Patients, many are left to go to clinics that are just one step above a Veterinarian Clinic. In fact, some Vet Clinics are better. I am one of the lucky few that have the option to be able to use the VA Hospital for in and out patient care as well as long term and medicine.

Since the Civilian Care is so poor, the VA has opened it's doors to us. Without it, we would be in dire straits. They don't have to. Actually, they do but they can handle us in a space A type way. WE end up using the VA for Universal Health Care and it works well.

The VA is very cost conscience. The Doctors and staff make less than the Civilian Hospitals. Have more employment rules. The VA support staff is generally short handed but the folks they have are aces. There is no long waiting. You get in and out fast, get the help you need and the medicine and you are out the door. Unlike the Civilian Counterpart where you will spend hours on one visit. If the VA doesn't have the specialtist you need, they will refer you to a civilian specialtist who will also be prompt and get you in and out in a timely manner. The Civilian Sector could learn a whole hell of a lot from the VA in cutting costs, time management and other things. I would like to see the VA boilerplate used in Civilian Medicine. Instead, the Civilian Medical Community keeps trying to break the VA down to their own way of doing things. Not on my watch.
You can keep your socialized medicine, leave the rest of us out of it.
It does not require our participation.
It’s only fair to have socialized medicine as an “opt in”, for those that want it... the rest of us want nothing to do with it.

So now you are speaking for everyone. Wow, how Trumpet of you.
Na, just the people that want nothing to do with socialized medicine... It does not require our participation.
It’s best if you keep your socialized medicine to yourselves… It is not in our best interests to have anything to do with it.
 
Republicans have dominated the last 35 or 50 years and obstructed everything but ACA. They have cut services and infrastructure investment and of course the Ghettos do the worst, all to save the rich... You dupes seem to think they are the epitome of Democratic policy. You're f****** nuts LOL
Obama care is a cancer

Do you support the VA Health Care? And why? And don't go off on we owe it to the boys and girls that wore the uniform. Trust me, the civilian health care is so screwed up right now it's a friggin mess. And you can no longer blame it on Obamacare. This is completely owned by your Trumpets. I have no choice but to use the VA facilities even though I should be 100% covered less $175 deductible for the year. But trying to find a GP to accept it just ain't happening. Oh, yes, I can get one just above a horse doctor but not a good one. And my medicine costs would be outrageous. So I use the VA who bills Medicare and Tricare and I use copay for medicine.

I don't want to see the VA privatized. The Private or Civilian Medical is a disaster and it becomes even a bigger disaster as you get older. I want to see the Civilian Medical use the VA as a blueprint. The VA works and it works well no matter how much bad press it gets. To us that use it, we know that it's a far cry better than the Civilian Medical System.

Why do you have no choice but to use the VA medical?

We have a shortage of Civilian Doctors accepting Medicare patients. It appears that quite a few figured out a way to make extra money by forming Medical Clubs where you pay X amount of Dollars to join the club and then they will take care of you. If you can't afford to join the club, you will get substandard care. What some of the Doctors are doing is freezing out the HMOs that way by making their own HMOs. With the shortage of GPs that accept new Medicare Patients, many are left to go to clinics that are just one step above a Veterinarian Clinic. In fact, some Vet Clinics are better. I am one of the lucky few that have the option to be able to use the VA Hospital for in and out patient care as well as long term and medicine.

Since the Civilian Care is so poor, the VA has opened it's doors to us. Without it, we would be in dire straits. They don't have to. Actually, they do but they can handle us in a space A type way. WE end up using the VA for Universal Health Care and it works well.

The VA is very cost conscience. The Doctors and staff make less than the Civilian Hospitals. Have more employment rules. The VA support staff is generally short handed but the folks they have are aces. There is no long waiting. You get in and out fast, get the help you need and the medicine and you are out the door. Unlike the Civilian Counterpart where you will spend hours on one visit. If the VA doesn't have the specialtist you need, they will refer you to a civilian specialtist who will also be prompt and get you in and out in a timely manner. The Civilian Sector could learn a whole hell of a lot from the VA in cutting costs, time management and other things. I would like to see the VA boilerplate used in Civilian Medicine. Instead, the Civilian Medical Community keeps trying to break the VA down to their own way of doing things. Not on my watch.
You can keep your socialized medicine, leave the rest of us out of it.
It does not require our participation.
It’s only fair to have socialized medicine as an “opt in”, for those that want it... the rest of us want nothing to do with it.
Fine. Obama didn't want a mandate anyway. But obviously we have to go 2 big cost-cutting... The cost of healthcare here is ridiculous. That is the problem with Obamacare.
 
Jeez Louis. Rural America has almost no population at all. There is no way in hell that most of the firearms are in the Rural Areas. You need population to do that. I am seeing that your bunch is going off the rails and making some pretty outlandish claims trying to win. You are losing. Move on to the next battle. This one is lost for you.
Na, not really.
Trump will most likely be able to nominate 2 maybe 3 Supreme Court Justices to sure up the second amendment.
And rural America owns most of America’s legally held firearms...

You are so full of shit about the amount of guns in Rural America. There just aren't enough population in Rural America to go around. Remember, there cupcake, I grew up Rural America. So stop lying. And move onto something else. You lost this one.
Na, progressive blue urban America have hardly any legally held firearms.
Rural red America is where most of the legally held firearms are. Fact
You progressives don’t believe in firearm ownership in any form, you want to abolish the second amendment...

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Wow, what a whopper on this one. You, meaning me, Progressives don't believe something? Are you saying that I, Personally, want to get rid of all guns? That I, personally, want the authorities to come to your home and collect all your firearms? That I, personally, want all households and businesses to have to surrender all firearms so that they can be destroyed? Now, show where I have said any of that.

Well, I have said that maybe we should have you sent to a Shrink to find out if you are stable enough to have a firearm of any kind. But that's just you.

You sure to like to lie, cupcake.
Spoken like a true blue anti-gun nutter, we can see right through you.
You have said many times you want to abolish the second amendment

I have stated that it is long on the tooth and at least the first 2/3rds of it have already been superceded. It needs updated. I have also stated we need a 2nd amendment more than a few times. But it needs to be spelled out better. No blanket statement that can be misinterpreted in so many different ways. You keep trying to speak for me. Well, the more you do, the more I think we need you to be forced to visit that shrink to see if you are stable enough to own firearms. You just might be the next fruitcake to go off on the public with all those red flags.

Meanwhile, the rest of us stable gun owners will wake up in the morning, the sun will come up and our guns are going to be okay. And the world won't end.
 
Obama care is a cancer

Do you support the VA Health Care? And why? And don't go off on we owe it to the boys and girls that wore the uniform. Trust me, the civilian health care is so screwed up right now it's a friggin mess. And you can no longer blame it on Obamacare. This is completely owned by your Trumpets. I have no choice but to use the VA facilities even though I should be 100% covered less $175 deductible for the year. But trying to find a GP to accept it just ain't happening. Oh, yes, I can get one just above a horse doctor but not a good one. And my medicine costs would be outrageous. So I use the VA who bills Medicare and Tricare and I use copay for medicine.

I don't want to see the VA privatized. The Private or Civilian Medical is a disaster and it becomes even a bigger disaster as you get older. I want to see the Civilian Medical use the VA as a blueprint. The VA works and it works well no matter how much bad press it gets. To us that use it, we know that it's a far cry better than the Civilian Medical System.

Why do you have no choice but to use the VA medical?

We have a shortage of Civilian Doctors accepting Medicare patients. It appears that quite a few figured out a way to make extra money by forming Medical Clubs where you pay X amount of Dollars to join the club and then they will take care of you. If you can't afford to join the club, you will get substandard care. What some of the Doctors are doing is freezing out the HMOs that way by making their own HMOs. With the shortage of GPs that accept new Medicare Patients, many are left to go to clinics that are just one step above a Veterinarian Clinic. In fact, some Vet Clinics are better. I am one of the lucky few that have the option to be able to use the VA Hospital for in and out patient care as well as long term and medicine.

Since the Civilian Care is so poor, the VA has opened it's doors to us. Without it, we would be in dire straits. They don't have to. Actually, they do but they can handle us in a space A type way. WE end up using the VA for Universal Health Care and it works well.

The VA is very cost conscience. The Doctors and staff make less than the Civilian Hospitals. Have more employment rules. The VA support staff is generally short handed but the folks they have are aces. There is no long waiting. You get in and out fast, get the help you need and the medicine and you are out the door. Unlike the Civilian Counterpart where you will spend hours on one visit. If the VA doesn't have the specialtist you need, they will refer you to a civilian specialtist who will also be prompt and get you in and out in a timely manner. The Civilian Sector could learn a whole hell of a lot from the VA in cutting costs, time management and other things. I would like to see the VA boilerplate used in Civilian Medicine. Instead, the Civilian Medical Community keeps trying to break the VA down to their own way of doing things. Not on my watch.
You can keep your socialized medicine, leave the rest of us out of it.
It does not require our participation.
It’s only fair to have socialized medicine as an “opt in”, for those that want it... the rest of us want nothing to do with it.
Fine. Obama didn't want a mandate anyway. But obviously we have to go 2 big cost-cutting... The cost of healthcare here is ridiculous. That is the problem with Obamacare.
Like I said, Socialized medicine should be an “opt in”.
It does not require our participation that want nothing to do with it
 
Do you support the VA Health Care? And why? And don't go off on we owe it to the boys and girls that wore the uniform. Trust me, the civilian health care is so screwed up right now it's a friggin mess. And you can no longer blame it on Obamacare. This is completely owned by your Trumpets. I have no choice but to use the VA facilities even though I should be 100% covered less $175 deductible for the year. But trying to find a GP to accept it just ain't happening. Oh, yes, I can get one just above a horse doctor but not a good one. And my medicine costs would be outrageous. So I use the VA who bills Medicare and Tricare and I use copay for medicine.

I don't want to see the VA privatized. The Private or Civilian Medical is a disaster and it becomes even a bigger disaster as you get older. I want to see the Civilian Medical use the VA as a blueprint. The VA works and it works well no matter how much bad press it gets. To us that use it, we know that it's a far cry better than the Civilian Medical System.

Why do you have no choice but to use the VA medical?

We have a shortage of Civilian Doctors accepting Medicare patients. It appears that quite a few figured out a way to make extra money by forming Medical Clubs where you pay X amount of Dollars to join the club and then they will take care of you. If you can't afford to join the club, you will get substandard care. What some of the Doctors are doing is freezing out the HMOs that way by making their own HMOs. With the shortage of GPs that accept new Medicare Patients, many are left to go to clinics that are just one step above a Veterinarian Clinic. In fact, some Vet Clinics are better. I am one of the lucky few that have the option to be able to use the VA Hospital for in and out patient care as well as long term and medicine.

Since the Civilian Care is so poor, the VA has opened it's doors to us. Without it, we would be in dire straits. They don't have to. Actually, they do but they can handle us in a space A type way. WE end up using the VA for Universal Health Care and it works well.

The VA is very cost conscience. The Doctors and staff make less than the Civilian Hospitals. Have more employment rules. The VA support staff is generally short handed but the folks they have are aces. There is no long waiting. You get in and out fast, get the help you need and the medicine and you are out the door. Unlike the Civilian Counterpart where you will spend hours on one visit. If the VA doesn't have the specialtist you need, they will refer you to a civilian specialtist who will also be prompt and get you in and out in a timely manner. The Civilian Sector could learn a whole hell of a lot from the VA in cutting costs, time management and other things. I would like to see the VA boilerplate used in Civilian Medicine. Instead, the Civilian Medical Community keeps trying to break the VA down to their own way of doing things. Not on my watch.
You can keep your socialized medicine, leave the rest of us out of it.
It does not require our participation.
It’s only fair to have socialized medicine as an “opt in”, for those that want it... the rest of us want nothing to do with it.

So now you are speaking for everyone. Wow, how Trumpet of you.
Na, just the people that want nothing to do with socialized medicine... It does not require our participation.
It’s best if you keep your socialized medicine to yourselves… It is not in our best interests to have anything to do with it.

As you get older and start having more and more health issues, your views will change. You are a young healthy kid. But us older folks have to think about those things. And so do young Women of child baring age. You speak for only a fraction of the population. You are a Trumpet.
 
Na, not really.
Trump will most likely be able to nominate 2 maybe 3 Supreme Court Justices to sure up the second amendment.
And rural America owns most of America’s legally held firearms...

You are so full of shit about the amount of guns in Rural America. There just aren't enough population in Rural America to go around. Remember, there cupcake, I grew up Rural America. So stop lying. And move onto something else. You lost this one.
Na, progressive blue urban America have hardly any legally held firearms.
Rural red America is where most of the legally held firearms are. Fact
You progressives don’t believe in firearm ownership in any form, you want to abolish the second amendment...

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Wow, what a whopper on this one. You, meaning me, Progressives don't believe something? Are you saying that I, Personally, want to get rid of all guns? That I, personally, want the authorities to come to your home and collect all your firearms? That I, personally, want all households and businesses to have to surrender all firearms so that they can be destroyed? Now, show where I have said any of that.

Well, I have said that maybe we should have you sent to a Shrink to find out if you are stable enough to have a firearm of any kind. But that's just you.

You sure to like to lie, cupcake.
Spoken like a true blue anti-gun nutter, we can see right through you.
You have said many times you want to abolish the second amendment

I have stated that it is long on the tooth and at least the first 2/3rds of it have already been superceded. It needs updated. I have also stated we need a 2nd amendment more than a few times. But it needs to be spelled out better. No blanket statement that can be misinterpreted in so many different ways. You keep trying to speak for me. Well, the more you do, the more I think we need you to be forced to visit that shrink to see if you are stable enough to own firearms. You just might be the next fruitcake to go off on the public with all those red flags.

Meanwhile, the rest of us stable gun owners will wake up in the morning, the sun will come up and our guns are going to be okay. And the world won't end.
Lol
The second amendment will be strengthened, Trump will be able to nominate two maybe 3 Supreme Court court justices. And they will be very pro-gun, unlike you.
 
Why do you have no choice but to use the VA medical?

We have a shortage of Civilian Doctors accepting Medicare patients. It appears that quite a few figured out a way to make extra money by forming Medical Clubs where you pay X amount of Dollars to join the club and then they will take care of you. If you can't afford to join the club, you will get substandard care. What some of the Doctors are doing is freezing out the HMOs that way by making their own HMOs. With the shortage of GPs that accept new Medicare Patients, many are left to go to clinics that are just one step above a Veterinarian Clinic. In fact, some Vet Clinics are better. I am one of the lucky few that have the option to be able to use the VA Hospital for in and out patient care as well as long term and medicine.

Since the Civilian Care is so poor, the VA has opened it's doors to us. Without it, we would be in dire straits. They don't have to. Actually, they do but they can handle us in a space A type way. WE end up using the VA for Universal Health Care and it works well.

The VA is very cost conscience. The Doctors and staff make less than the Civilian Hospitals. Have more employment rules. The VA support staff is generally short handed but the folks they have are aces. There is no long waiting. You get in and out fast, get the help you need and the medicine and you are out the door. Unlike the Civilian Counterpart where you will spend hours on one visit. If the VA doesn't have the specialtist you need, they will refer you to a civilian specialtist who will also be prompt and get you in and out in a timely manner. The Civilian Sector could learn a whole hell of a lot from the VA in cutting costs, time management and other things. I would like to see the VA boilerplate used in Civilian Medicine. Instead, the Civilian Medical Community keeps trying to break the VA down to their own way of doing things. Not on my watch.
You can keep your socialized medicine, leave the rest of us out of it.
It does not require our participation.
It’s only fair to have socialized medicine as an “opt in”, for those that want it... the rest of us want nothing to do with it.

So now you are speaking for everyone. Wow, how Trumpet of you.
Na, just the people that want nothing to do with socialized medicine... It does not require our participation.
It’s best if you keep your socialized medicine to yourselves… It is not in our best interests to have anything to do with it.

As you get older and start having more and more health issues, your views will change. You are a young healthy kid. But us older folks have to think about those things. And so do young Women of child baring age. You speak for only a fraction of the population. You are a Trumpet.
Na, I don’t need the collective. I pay for my own shit I don’t expect other people to pay for my shit
 
Do you support the VA Health Care? And why? And don't go off on we owe it to the boys and girls that wore the uniform. Trust me, the civilian health care is so screwed up right now it's a friggin mess. And you can no longer blame it on Obamacare. This is completely owned by your Trumpets. I have no choice but to use the VA facilities even though I should be 100% covered less $175 deductible for the year. But trying to find a GP to accept it just ain't happening. Oh, yes, I can get one just above a horse doctor but not a good one. And my medicine costs would be outrageous. So I use the VA who bills Medicare and Tricare and I use copay for medicine.

I don't want to see the VA privatized. The Private or Civilian Medical is a disaster and it becomes even a bigger disaster as you get older. I want to see the Civilian Medical use the VA as a blueprint. The VA works and it works well no matter how much bad press it gets. To us that use it, we know that it's a far cry better than the Civilian Medical System.

Why do you have no choice but to use the VA medical?

We have a shortage of Civilian Doctors accepting Medicare patients. It appears that quite a few figured out a way to make extra money by forming Medical Clubs where you pay X amount of Dollars to join the club and then they will take care of you. If you can't afford to join the club, you will get substandard care. What some of the Doctors are doing is freezing out the HMOs that way by making their own HMOs. With the shortage of GPs that accept new Medicare Patients, many are left to go to clinics that are just one step above a Veterinarian Clinic. In fact, some Vet Clinics are better. I am one of the lucky few that have the option to be able to use the VA Hospital for in and out patient care as well as long term and medicine.

Since the Civilian Care is so poor, the VA has opened it's doors to us. Without it, we would be in dire straits. They don't have to. Actually, they do but they can handle us in a space A type way. WE end up using the VA for Universal Health Care and it works well.

The VA is very cost conscience. The Doctors and staff make less than the Civilian Hospitals. Have more employment rules. The VA support staff is generally short handed but the folks they have are aces. There is no long waiting. You get in and out fast, get the help you need and the medicine and you are out the door. Unlike the Civilian Counterpart where you will spend hours on one visit. If the VA doesn't have the specialtist you need, they will refer you to a civilian specialtist who will also be prompt and get you in and out in a timely manner. The Civilian Sector could learn a whole hell of a lot from the VA in cutting costs, time management and other things. I would like to see the VA boilerplate used in Civilian Medicine. Instead, the Civilian Medical Community keeps trying to break the VA down to their own way of doing things. Not on my watch.
You can keep your socialized medicine, leave the rest of us out of it.
It does not require our participation.
It’s only fair to have socialized medicine as an “opt in”, for those that want it... the rest of us want nothing to do with it.
Fine. Obama didn't want a mandate anyway. But obviously we have to go 2 big cost-cutting... The cost of healthcare here is ridiculous. That is the problem with Obamacare.
Like I said, Socialized medicine should be an “opt in”.
It does not require our participation that want nothing to do with it

Actually, you have it backward. It should be an Opt Out. Using Denmark as the yardstick, they have Universal Health Care. They pay half of what we pay in the US and get top knotch health care and medicine. There is NO bill given. Not one dime is asked for. If you are visiting Denmark and need medical care, they take care of you and don't charge you a dime even though you aren't even a citizen. There are people that come from other countries to use those health facilities. And when you figure the cost, it's half of what we pay here in the United States using a private system. This is also how the VA works and always has since it was consieved. It looks like the Dutch borrowed from the VA system and used it for their own. So don't tell me that it doesn't work.

What makes it work is the bulk buying of everything from equipment to medicine. The Medical Community wants to see this but the Pharmacutical and Suppliers don't. And the Insurance Companies and HMOs don't want it either. You see, they would be gone completely and the cost savings would be passed on the to public. In otherwords, put the Medicine back into the Doctors hands and send the leaches packing. But the Lobbyists are purchasing the Congress Critters who aren't working for us anymore and having for a very long time.
 

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