Before There Was God…

[hobelim]

Have I made clear why no Democrat/Liberal/Progressive can explain or defend the agenda of the party they support?

This:

The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism…

Why should anyone have to explain or defend YOUR lies?????

Because the elections are coming! The elections are coming!


Brace yourself for an onslaught of bipartisan derision inculcated by hostile foreign enemies. Political chick my ass. It's probably just another sweaty fat guy working the long con from little Odessa.

To be aware is to be alive.

The republicans have been compromised by enemies of the constitution, both foreign and domestic..That is a very real and present danger, not immigrants, not refugees, not drugs, not gays, not trans, not hollywood, not the news, not witches, not Hillary, not Obama, not libtards, not the poor, not rock and roll, not titties on TV, not equal rights, not liberty, not truth, not justice..

It's as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field.

Don't believe the hype!

 

[PoliticalChic]

….there were gods.



1.Perhaps God was tired out from creating the world, or didn’t feel it necessary to intermingle with the kids, so he didn’t ….until Moses, in 1313 BCE. That’s when he offered the contract, the Ten Commandments, acceptance of which sent mankind off to the races, producing the greatest culture ever known: Western Civilization.




BTW, even before the events on Sinai, there were rules for humanity.

2.Before Sinai and the Ten Commandments, there were the rules called the Noahide Laws, based on reason and a desire to be able to live with other people, laws against bad behavior, the idea that these injured society: bans on murder, theft, idolatry, sexual immorality, animal cruelty, cursing God, and the need to set up courts to punish the infractions. They are incumbent on everyone, whether one respects the Bible or not, because they are so obvious.
The benefit of the Bible is that it tells society how to be good.

“Noahide Laws, also called Noachian Laws, a Jewish Talmudic designation for seven biblical laws given to Adam and to Noah before the revelation to Moses on Mt. Sinai and consequently binding on all mankind.” Noahide Laws | Judaism


“According to Jewish tradition, non-Jews who adhere to these laws …are said to be followers of Noahidism and regarded as righteous gentiles, who are assured of a place in …the world to come, the final reward of the righteous.” Seven Laws of Noah - Wikipedia





3. Now for the idea that the rational, the common sense method is better than specific rules of religious morality. Can a human being be good without reference to God? As the saying goes, ‘Going to church doesn’t make you a good Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.’ Sure….there could be good pagans….or bad religious folks. While it is true that one can be moral and good and not religious, the idea does not work for all or even most, and certainly not for entire societies, not in the long term.

Why? Because there is no force behind reason. Take slavery as an example. There is no rational way to convince the slaveholder that he shouldn’t own and sell his fellow man: it makes a great profit, makes his life easier. He can even claim that his slaves live longer and better than many free men.

Or, take as an example, a sadist who gets satisfaction from murdering children. If there is no God who declares that such an act is wrong, then my arguing such is simply my opinion versus that of the murderer. Without God, good and evil are a matter of taste.





And, there is the obvious case today: the Democrat Party actually favors infanticide….and have convinced many to still vote for this….paganism. Abortion up to actual birth, and allowing one born in this manner to die.....is human sacrifice.

No coincidence that the same party eschews religion.

I don’t take orders from hearsay, or lackeys. If any entity has something to say to me; it can say it to my face. Or get fucked...

And another one comes out of the primordial ooze to prove the thread.

OK, you've served the purpose you were born to serve, now, back into the oblivion you so richly deserve.

Struck a nerve I see... Good...

You see no such thing.

I mocked you, and your post proves it.

This thread is way over your head.

 

[Vastator]

….there were gods.



1.Perhaps God was tired out from creating the world, or didn’t feel it necessary to intermingle with the kids, so he didn’t ….until Moses, in 1313 BCE. That’s when he offered the contract, the Ten Commandments, acceptance of which sent mankind off to the races, producing the greatest culture ever known: Western Civilization.




BTW, even before the events on Sinai, there were rules for humanity.

2.Before Sinai and the Ten Commandments, there were the rules called the Noahide Laws, based on reason and a desire to be able to live with other people, laws against bad behavior, the idea that these injured society: bans on murder, theft, idolatry, sexual immorality, animal cruelty, cursing God, and the need to set up courts to punish the infractions. They are incumbent on everyone, whether one respects the Bible or not, because they are so obvious.
The benefit of the Bible is that it tells society how to be good.

“Noahide Laws, also called Noachian Laws, a Jewish Talmudic designation for seven biblical laws given to Adam and to Noah before the revelation to Moses on Mt. Sinai and consequently binding on all mankind.” Noahide Laws | Judaism


“According to Jewish tradition, non-Jews who adhere to these laws …are said to be followers of Noahidism and regarded as righteous gentiles, who are assured of a place in …the world to come, the final reward of the righteous.” Seven Laws of Noah - Wikipedia





3. Now for the idea that the rational, the common sense method is better than specific rules of religious morality. Can a human being be good without reference to God? As the saying goes, ‘Going to church doesn’t make you a good Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.’ Sure….there could be good pagans….or bad religious folks. While it is true that one can be moral and good and not religious, the idea does not work for all or even most, and certainly not for entire societies, not in the long term.

Why? Because there is no force behind reason. Take slavery as an example. There is no rational way to convince the slaveholder that he shouldn’t own and sell his fellow man: it makes a great profit, makes his life easier. He can even claim that his slaves live longer and better than many free men.

Or, take as an example, a sadist who gets satisfaction from murdering children. If there is no God who declares that such an act is wrong, then my arguing such is simply my opinion versus that of the murderer. Without God, good and evil are a matter of taste.





And, there is the obvious case today: the Democrat Party actually favors infanticide….and have convinced many to still vote for this….paganism. Abortion up to actual birth, and allowing one born in this manner to die.....is human sacrifice.

No coincidence that the same party eschews religion.

I don’t take orders from hearsay, or lackeys. If any entity has something to say to me; it can say it to my face. Or get fucked...

And another one comes out of the primordial ooze to prove the thread.

OK, you've served the purpose you were born to serve, now, back into the oblivion you so richly deserve.

Struck a nerve I see... Good...

You see no such thing.

I mocked you, and your post proves it.

This thread is way over your head.

A-huh... Yeah... Go with that... Because a position that can be neither proven, or disproven is the “principled high ground”. I find it odd that you choose to attack an ally. But I’ll take on all comers...

 

[PoliticalChic]

….there were gods.



1.Perhaps God was tired out from creating the world, or didn’t feel it necessary to intermingle with the kids, so he didn’t ….until Moses, in 1313 BCE. That’s when he offered the contract, the Ten Commandments, acceptance of which sent mankind off to the races, producing the greatest culture ever known: Western Civilization.




BTW, even before the events on Sinai, there were rules for humanity.

2.Before Sinai and the Ten Commandments, there were the rules called the Noahide Laws, based on reason and a desire to be able to live with other people, laws against bad behavior, the idea that these injured society: bans on murder, theft, idolatry, sexual immorality, animal cruelty, cursing God, and the need to set up courts to punish the infractions. They are incumbent on everyone, whether one respects the Bible or not, because they are so obvious.
The benefit of the Bible is that it tells society how to be good.

“Noahide Laws, also called Noachian Laws, a Jewish Talmudic designation for seven biblical laws given to Adam and to Noah before the revelation to Moses on Mt. Sinai and consequently binding on all mankind.” Noahide Laws | Judaism


“According to Jewish tradition, non-Jews who adhere to these laws …are said to be followers of Noahidism and regarded as righteous gentiles, who are assured of a place in …the world to come, the final reward of the righteous.” Seven Laws of Noah - Wikipedia





3. Now for the idea that the rational, the common sense method is better than specific rules of religious morality. Can a human being be good without reference to God? As the saying goes, ‘Going to church doesn’t make you a good Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.’ Sure….there could be good pagans….or bad religious folks. While it is true that one can be moral and good and not religious, the idea does not work for all or even most, and certainly not for entire societies, not in the long term.

Why? Because there is no force behind reason. Take slavery as an example. There is no rational way to convince the slaveholder that he shouldn’t own and sell his fellow man: it makes a great profit, makes his life easier. He can even claim that his slaves live longer and better than many free men.

Or, take as an example, a sadist who gets satisfaction from murdering children. If there is no God who declares that such an act is wrong, then my arguing such is simply my opinion versus that of the murderer. Without God, good and evil are a matter of taste.





And, there is the obvious case today: the Democrat Party actually favors infanticide….and have convinced many to still vote for this….paganism. Abortion up to actual birth, and allowing one born in this manner to die.....is human sacrifice.

No coincidence that the same party eschews religion.

I don’t take orders from hearsay, or lackeys. If any entity has something to say to me; it can say it to my face. Or get fucked...

And another one comes out of the primordial ooze to prove the thread.

OK, you've served the purpose you were born to serve, now, back into the oblivion you so richly deserve.

Struck a nerve I see... Good...

You see no such thing.

I mocked you, and your post proves it.

This thread is way over your head.

A-huh... Yeah... Go with that... Because a position that can be neither proven, or disproven is the “principled high ground”. I find it odd that you choose to attack an ally. But I’ll take on all comers...

I told you....this thread isn't for you.


Drop back when you graduate junior high.

 

[PoliticalChic]

9. Polytheism is, to an extent, a rational attempt to explain what one sees in the universe.

Where it fails is in how far it allows humanity to progress.


Equality before the law was an essential element in the material prosperity we revel in….but before that, is the spiritual, and legal, equality that monotheism provided.


This was the giant leap forward for civilization:
Genesis 1:26 is God giving every individual meaning,-
"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness”


Inherent in that view, the equality of all mankind, is the demand that we invest our free will with reason.

…and Henley, in Invictus, describes how to use it.
“It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.”



“This is the Jewish and Christian God. This is the Judeo-Christian civilization. This is the foundation for the greatest culture and civilization in world history- the West, the greatest force for material prosperity and freedom in history of the planet.” Ben Shapiro, “The Right Side Of History,” p. 20



The length of time that we keep it depends, largely, on how successful the atavists, pagans, of the Democrat Party succeed in taking control of our government.
No sentient individual would vote for this:
The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism…


....and this.....


Not just refusing to finance a wall on the southern border….but tearing down existing barriers

Abolishing ICE

Scrapping the electoral college

Eliminating all private health insurance

Packing the Supreme Court

Lowering the voting age to sixteen

Banning cars and airplanes

Financial security for those who ‘don’t care to work’

Reparations for slavery

Reparations for drug dealers

Giving murders and rapists the vote

 

[Vastator]

I don’t take orders from hearsay, or lackeys. If any entity has something to say to me; it can say it to my face. Or get fucked...

And another one comes out of the primordial ooze to prove the thread.

OK, you've served the purpose you were born to serve, now, back into the oblivion you so richly deserve.

Struck a nerve I see... Good...

You see no such thing.

I mocked you, and your post proves it.

This thread is way over your head.

A-huh... Yeah... Go with that... Because a position that can be neither proven, or disproven is the “principled high ground”. I find it odd that you choose to attack an ally. But I’ll take on all comers...

I told you....this thread isn't for you.


Drop back when you graduate junior high.

That was RDean level weak. Best you continue on with the OP. Any further discourse of this nature against me; diminishes your odds of being taken seriously. Continue on...

 

[PoliticalChic]

And another one comes out of the primordial ooze to prove the thread.

OK, you've served the purpose you were born to serve, now, back into the oblivion you so richly deserve.

Struck a nerve I see... Good...

You see no such thing.

I mocked you, and your post proves it.

This thread is way over your head.

A-huh... Yeah... Go with that... Because a position that can be neither proven, or disproven is the “principled high ground”. I find it odd that you choose to attack an ally. But I’ll take on all comers...

I told you....this thread isn't for you.


Drop back when you graduate junior high.

That was RDean level weak. Best you continue on with the OP. Any further discourse of this nature against me; diminishes your odds of being taken seriously. Continue on...

You bring nothing to the table....don't bother coming back.

 

[Vastator]

Struck a nerve I see... Good...

You see no such thing.

I mocked you, and your post proves it.

This thread is way over your head.

A-huh... Yeah... Go with that... Because a position that can be neither proven, or disproven is the “principled high ground”. I find it odd that you choose to attack an ally. But I’ll take on all comers...

I told you....this thread isn't for you.


Drop back when you graduate junior high.

That was RDean level weak. Best you continue on with the OP. Any further discourse of this nature against me; diminishes your odds of being taken seriously. Continue on...

You bring nothing to the table....don't bother coming back.

“Nothing” you can counter for sure. And fret not... it’s no bother; considering the attention you’ve granted me...
Brace yourself... We all know what comes after pride. Though that eventuality is avoidable... For those with the humility, and wisdom to do so... I guess we’ll see where you land....

 

[PoliticalChic]

You see no such thing.

I mocked you, and your post proves it.

This thread is way over your head.

A-huh... Yeah... Go with that... Because a position that can be neither proven, or disproven is the “principled high ground”. I find it odd that you choose to attack an ally. But I’ll take on all comers...

I told you....this thread isn't for you.


Drop back when you graduate junior high.

That was RDean level weak. Best you continue on with the OP. Any further discourse of this nature against me; diminishes your odds of being taken seriously. Continue on...

You bring nothing to the table....don't bother coming back.

“Nothing” you can counter for sure. And fret not... it’s no bother; considering the attention you’ve granted me...
Brace yourself... We all know what comes after pride. Though that eventuality is avoidable... For those with the humility, and wisdom to do so... I guess we’ll see where you land....

I rarely dumb my posts down for those less....educated.....but, as a personal favor, I will help you to this extent.


You not only fail to recognize the basis for Western Civilization in general, and America, specifically, is the Judeo-Christian faith and belief in the God accepted by same.

Further, you fail to recognize that the view you, in a vulgar manner, expressed, is the very same one authorized by the French Revolution and every Leftist regime since.


“If the French revolution was the end of monarchy and aristocratic privilege and the emergence of the common man and democratic rights, it was also the beginnings of modern totalitarian government and large-scale executions of "enemies of the People" by impersonal government entities (Robespierre's "Committee of Public Safety"). This legacy would not reach its fullest bloom until the tragic arrival of the German Nazis and Soviet and Chinese communists of the 20th century.

In fact, Rousseau has been called the precursor of the modern pseudo-democrats such as Stalin and Hitler and the "people's democracies." French Revolution - Robespierre, and the Legacy of the Reign of Terror



I'd be happy to provide a curriculum that you so sorely require.

 

[Vastator]

A-huh... Yeah... Go with that... Because a position that can be neither proven, or disproven is the “principled high ground”. I find it odd that you choose to attack an ally. But I’ll take on all comers...

I told you....this thread isn't for you.


Drop back when you graduate junior high.

That was RDean level weak. Best you continue on with the OP. Any further discourse of this nature against me; diminishes your odds of being taken seriously. Continue on...

You bring nothing to the table....don't bother coming back.

“Nothing” you can counter for sure. And fret not... it’s no bother; considering the attention you’ve granted me...
Brace yourself... We all know what comes after pride. Though that eventuality is avoidable... For those with the humility, and wisdom to do so... I guess we’ll see where you land....

I rarely dumb my posts down for those less....educated.....but, as a personal favor, I will help you to this extent.


You not only fail to recognize the basis for Western Civilization in general, and America, specifically, is the Judeo-Christian faith and belief in the God accepted by same.

Further, you fail to recognize that the view you, in a vulgar manner, expressed, is the very same one authorized by the French Revolution and every Leftist regime since.


“If the French revolution was the end of monarchy and aristocratic privilege and the emergence of the common man and democratic rights, it was also the beginnings of modern totalitarian government and large-scale executions of "enemies of the People" by impersonal government entities (Robespierre's "Committee of Public Safety"). This legacy would not reach its fullest bloom until the tragic arrival of the German Nazis and Soviet and Chinese communists of the 20th century.

In fact, Rousseau has been called the precursor of the modern pseudo-democrats such as Stalin and Hitler and the "people's democracies." French Revolution - Robespierre, and the Legacy of the Reign of Terror



I'd be happy to provide a curriculum that you so sorely require.

Your curriculum has failed to inform you, that the foundation of western civilization is composed of the raping and slaughtering of your forebearers. Whose many descendants betray their suffering; by foisting the banner of their nemesis. By embracing the faith of the sand people’s, you betray the very blood that runs through your veins. A burden I’ll never have to carry. A “sin” I’ll never need atonement for...

 

[PoliticalChic]

I told you....this thread isn't for you.


Drop back when you graduate junior high.

That was RDean level weak. Best you continue on with the OP. Any further discourse of this nature against me; diminishes your odds of being taken seriously. Continue on...

You bring nothing to the table....don't bother coming back.

“Nothing” you can counter for sure. And fret not... it’s no bother; considering the attention you’ve granted me...
Brace yourself... We all know what comes after pride. Though that eventuality is avoidable... For those with the humility, and wisdom to do so... I guess we’ll see where you land....

I rarely dumb my posts down for those less....educated.....but, as a personal favor, I will help you to this extent.


You not only fail to recognize the basis for Western Civilization in general, and America, specifically, is the Judeo-Christian faith and belief in the God accepted by same.

Further, you fail to recognize that the view you, in a vulgar manner, expressed, is the very same one authorized by the French Revolution and every Leftist regime since.


“If the French revolution was the end of monarchy and aristocratic privilege and the emergence of the common man and democratic rights, it was also the beginnings of modern totalitarian government and large-scale executions of "enemies of the People" by impersonal government entities (Robespierre's "Committee of Public Safety"). This legacy would not reach its fullest bloom until the tragic arrival of the German Nazis and Soviet and Chinese communists of the 20th century.

In fact, Rousseau has been called the precursor of the modern pseudo-democrats such as Stalin and Hitler and the "people's democracies." French Revolution - Robespierre, and the Legacy of the Reign of Terror



I'd be happy to provide a curriculum that you so sorely require.

Your curriculum has failed to inform you, that the foundation of western civilization is composed of the raping and slaughtering of your forebearers. Whose many descendants betray their suffering; by foisting the banner of their nemesis. By embracing the faith of the sand people’s, you betray the very blood that runs through your veins. A burden I’ll never have to carry. A “sin” I’ll never need atonement for...

See....now you're actually making an effort.


Sadly, you couldn't be more wrong.


It is the forces of paganism, Bolshevism, whatever, that have caused mayhem, murder and untold suffering.....not the faith of our Founders.



Let's prove it together.
...let’s take a look at secularism’s rich history of mass murder, and we need not go back a thousand years to make the point. Here are the 800 pound gorilla death totals from some notable secular leaders from the recent past (from the book Death by Government by R.J. Rummel):

Stalin....42,672,000

Mao.....37,828,000

Hitler....20,946,000

Lenin....4,017,000

Pol Pot...2,397,000

Chiang Kaishek...10,214,000

Tojo.....3,990,000

Total......122,064,000


Some people blame organized religion for most of history's killings. It is also sometimes claimed that more people have been killed in the name of Christ than for any other reason.

The total number of deaths estimated to lie at the feet of humanity's poor practice of Christianity is approximately 17 million. This number would include ancient wars, the Crusades, the Inquisitions, various European wars during the Middle Ages, and witchcraft trials.
Isn't religion to blame for most of history's killings?




See the difference when one is educated?

Still sure you don't want that curriculum?

 

[Vastator]

That was RDean level weak. Best you continue on with the OP. Any further discourse of this nature against me; diminishes your odds of being taken seriously. Continue on...

You bring nothing to the table....don't bother coming back.

“Nothing” you can counter for sure. And fret not... it’s no bother; considering the attention you’ve granted me...
Brace yourself... We all know what comes after pride. Though that eventuality is avoidable... For those with the humility, and wisdom to do so... I guess we’ll see where you land....

I rarely dumb my posts down for those less....educated.....but, as a personal favor, I will help you to this extent.


You not only fail to recognize the basis for Western Civilization in general, and America, specifically, is the Judeo-Christian faith and belief in the God accepted by same.

Further, you fail to recognize that the view you, in a vulgar manner, expressed, is the very same one authorized by the French Revolution and every Leftist regime since.


“If the French revolution was the end of monarchy and aristocratic privilege and the emergence of the common man and democratic rights, it was also the beginnings of modern totalitarian government and large-scale executions of "enemies of the People" by impersonal government entities (Robespierre's "Committee of Public Safety"). This legacy would not reach its fullest bloom until the tragic arrival of the German Nazis and Soviet and Chinese communists of the 20th century.

In fact, Rousseau has been called the precursor of the modern pseudo-democrats such as Stalin and Hitler and the "people's democracies." French Revolution - Robespierre, and the Legacy of the Reign of Terror



I'd be happy to provide a curriculum that you so sorely require.

Your curriculum has failed to inform you, that the foundation of western civilization is composed of the raping and slaughtering of your forebearers. Whose many descendants betray their suffering; by foisting the banner of their nemesis. By embracing the faith of the sand people’s, you betray the very blood that runs through your veins. A burden I’ll never have to carry. A “sin” I’ll never need atonement for...

See....now you're actually making an effort.


Sadly, you couldn't be more wrong.


It is the forces of paganism, Bolshevism, whatever, that have caused mayhem, murder and untold suffering.....not the faith of our Founders.



Let's prove it together.
...let’s take a look at secularism’s rich history of mass murder, and we need not go back a thousand years to make the point. Here are the 800 pound gorilla death totals from some notable secular leaders from the recent past (from the book Death by Government by R.J. Rummel):

Stalin....42,672,000

Mao.....37,828,000

Hitler....20,946,000

Lenin....4,017,000

Pol Pot...2,397,000

Chiang Kaishek...10,214,000

Tojo.....3,990,000

Total......122,064,000


Some people blame organized religion for most of history's killings. It is also sometimes claimed that more people have been killed in the name of Christ than for any other reason.

The total number of deaths estimated to lie at the feet of humanity's poor practice of Christianity is approximately 17 million. This number would include ancient wars, the Crusades, the Inquisitions, various European wars during the Middle Ages, and witchcraft trials.
Isn't religion to blame for most of history's killings?




See the difference when one is educated?

Still sure you don't want that curriculum?

The blood that flows through our veins, predates all the excuses you would offer for your betrayal. I’ll meet our Brood Mother with my chin held high. I suggest you keep honing your excuses...

 

[PoliticalChic]

You bring nothing to the table....don't bother coming back.

“Nothing” you can counter for sure. And fret not... it’s no bother; considering the attention you’ve granted me...
Brace yourself... We all know what comes after pride. Though that eventuality is avoidable... For those with the humility, and wisdom to do so... I guess we’ll see where you land....

I rarely dumb my posts down for those less....educated.....but, as a personal favor, I will help you to this extent.


You not only fail to recognize the basis for Western Civilization in general, and America, specifically, is the Judeo-Christian faith and belief in the God accepted by same.

Further, you fail to recognize that the view you, in a vulgar manner, expressed, is the very same one authorized by the French Revolution and every Leftist regime since.


“If the French revolution was the end of monarchy and aristocratic privilege and the emergence of the common man and democratic rights, it was also the beginnings of modern totalitarian government and large-scale executions of "enemies of the People" by impersonal government entities (Robespierre's "Committee of Public Safety"). This legacy would not reach its fullest bloom until the tragic arrival of the German Nazis and Soviet and Chinese communists of the 20th century.

In fact, Rousseau has been called the precursor of the modern pseudo-democrats such as Stalin and Hitler and the "people's democracies." French Revolution - Robespierre, and the Legacy of the Reign of Terror



I'd be happy to provide a curriculum that you so sorely require.

Your curriculum has failed to inform you, that the foundation of western civilization is composed of the raping and slaughtering of your forebearers. Whose many descendants betray their suffering; by foisting the banner of their nemesis. By embracing the faith of the sand people’s, you betray the very blood that runs through your veins. A burden I’ll never have to carry. A “sin” I’ll never need atonement for...

See....now you're actually making an effort.


Sadly, you couldn't be more wrong.


It is the forces of paganism, Bolshevism, whatever, that have caused mayhem, murder and untold suffering.....not the faith of our Founders.



Let's prove it together.
...let’s take a look at secularism’s rich history of mass murder, and we need not go back a thousand years to make the point. Here are the 800 pound gorilla death totals from some notable secular leaders from the recent past (from the book Death by Government by R.J. Rummel):

Stalin....42,672,000

Mao.....37,828,000

Hitler....20,946,000

Lenin....4,017,000

Pol Pot...2,397,000

Chiang Kaishek...10,214,000

Tojo.....3,990,000

Total......122,064,000


Some people blame organized religion for most of history's killings. It is also sometimes claimed that more people have been killed in the name of Christ than for any other reason.

The total number of deaths estimated to lie at the feet of humanity's poor practice of Christianity is approximately 17 million. This number would include ancient wars, the Crusades, the Inquisitions, various European wars during the Middle Ages, and witchcraft trials.
Isn't religion to blame for most of history's killings?




See the difference when one is educated?

Still sure you don't want that curriculum?

The blood that flows through our veins, predates all the excuses you would offer for your betrayal. I’ll meet our Brood Mother with my chin held high. I suggest you keep honing your excuses...

Try to articulate a point and I will be sure to eviscerate it.

 

[Vastator]

“Nothing” you can counter for sure. And fret not... it’s no bother; considering the attention you’ve granted me...
Brace yourself... We all know what comes after pride. Though that eventuality is avoidable... For those with the humility, and wisdom to do so... I guess we’ll see where you land....

I rarely dumb my posts down for those less....educated.....but, as a personal favor, I will help you to this extent.


You not only fail to recognize the basis for Western Civilization in general, and America, specifically, is the Judeo-Christian faith and belief in the God accepted by same.

Further, you fail to recognize that the view you, in a vulgar manner, expressed, is the very same one authorized by the French Revolution and every Leftist regime since.


“If the French revolution was the end of monarchy and aristocratic privilege and the emergence of the common man and democratic rights, it was also the beginnings of modern totalitarian government and large-scale executions of "enemies of the People" by impersonal government entities (Robespierre's "Committee of Public Safety"). This legacy would not reach its fullest bloom until the tragic arrival of the German Nazis and Soviet and Chinese communists of the 20th century.

In fact, Rousseau has been called the precursor of the modern pseudo-democrats such as Stalin and Hitler and the "people's democracies." French Revolution - Robespierre, and the Legacy of the Reign of Terror



I'd be happy to provide a curriculum that you so sorely require.

Your curriculum has failed to inform you, that the foundation of western civilization is composed of the raping and slaughtering of your forebearers. Whose many descendants betray their suffering; by foisting the banner of their nemesis. By embracing the faith of the sand people’s, you betray the very blood that runs through your veins. A burden I’ll never have to carry. A “sin” I’ll never need atonement for...

See....now you're actually making an effort.


Sadly, you couldn't be more wrong.


It is the forces of paganism, Bolshevism, whatever, that have caused mayhem, murder and untold suffering.....not the faith of our Founders.



Let's prove it together.
...let’s take a look at secularism’s rich history of mass murder, and we need not go back a thousand years to make the point. Here are the 800 pound gorilla death totals from some notable secular leaders from the recent past (from the book Death by Government by R.J. Rummel):

Stalin....42,672,000

Mao.....37,828,000

Hitler....20,946,000

Lenin....4,017,000

Pol Pot...2,397,000

Chiang Kaishek...10,214,000

Tojo.....3,990,000

Total......122,064,000


Some people blame organized religion for most of history's killings. It is also sometimes claimed that more people have been killed in the name of Christ than for any other reason.

The total number of deaths estimated to lie at the feet of humanity's poor practice of Christianity is approximately 17 million. This number would include ancient wars, the Crusades, the Inquisitions, various European wars during the Middle Ages, and witchcraft trials.
Isn't religion to blame for most of history's killings?




See the difference when one is educated?

Still sure you don't want that curriculum?

The blood that flows through our veins, predates all the excuses you would offer for your betrayal. I’ll meet our Brood Mother with my chin held high. I suggest you keep honing your excuses...

Try to articulate a point and I will be sure to eviscerate it.

Yeah... As we can clearly see...

 

[anynameyouwish]

….there were gods.



1.Perhaps God was tired out from creating the world, or didn’t feel it necessary to intermingle with the kids, so he didn’t ….until Moses, in 1313 BCE. That’s when he offered the contract, the Ten Commandments, acceptance of which sent mankind off to the races, producing the greatest culture ever known: Western Civilization.




BTW, even before the events on Sinai, there were rules for humanity.

2.Before Sinai and the Ten Commandments, there were the rules called the Noahide Laws, based on reason and a desire to be able to live with other people, laws against bad behavior, the idea that these injured society: bans on murder, theft, idolatry, sexual immorality, animal cruelty, cursing God, and the need to set up courts to punish the infractions. They are incumbent on everyone, whether one respects the Bible or not, because they are so obvious.
The benefit of the Bible is that it tells society how to be good.

“Noahide Laws, also called Noachian Laws, a Jewish Talmudic designation for seven biblical laws given to Adam and to Noah before the revelation to Moses on Mt. Sinai and consequently binding on all mankind.” Noahide Laws | Judaism


“According to Jewish tradition, non-Jews who adhere to these laws …are said to be followers of Noahidism and regarded as righteous gentiles, who are assured of a place in …the world to come, the final reward of the righteous.” Seven Laws of Noah - Wikipedia





3. Now for the idea that the rational, the common sense method is better than specific rules of religious morality. Can a human being be good without reference to God? As the saying goes, ‘Going to church doesn’t make you a good Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.’ Sure….there could be good pagans….or bad religious folks. While it is true that one can be moral and good and not religious, the idea does not work for all or even most, and certainly not for entire societies, not in the long term.

Why? Because there is no force behind reason. Take slavery as an example. There is no rational way to convince the slaveholder that he shouldn’t own and sell his fellow man: it makes a great profit, makes his life easier. He can even claim that his slaves live longer and better than many free men.

Or, take as an example, a sadist who gets satisfaction from murdering children. If there is no God who declares that such an act is wrong, then my arguing such is simply my opinion versus that of the murderer. Without God, good and evil are a matter of taste.





And, there is the obvious case today: the Democrat Party actually favors infanticide….and have convinced many to still vote for this….paganism. Abortion up to actual birth, and allowing one born in this manner to die.....is human sacrifice.

No coincidence that the same party eschews religion.

VP Christian, conservative, republican Mike Pence

said....

Mike Pence: 'I'm a Christian, a conservative, and a Republican — in ...

https://theweek.com/.../mike-pence-im-christian-conservative-republican--that-order
Jul 20, 2016 - On Wednesday, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence accepted the Republican vice presidential nomination and gave the American people more insight ...

Kindly note his PATRIOTISM didn't even make the list!

So...Christian, Conservative, Republican politicalchic...

how low on the list is YOUR patriotism?


because I question the PATRIOTISM of ANYONE who can list 3 things more important than his loyalty to America.

So...

how LOW is YOUR loyalty?

 

[PoliticalChic]

….there were gods.



1.Perhaps God was tired out from creating the world, or didn’t feel it necessary to intermingle with the kids, so he didn’t ….until Moses, in 1313 BCE. That’s when he offered the contract, the Ten Commandments, acceptance of which sent mankind off to the races, producing the greatest culture ever known: Western Civilization.




BTW, even before the events on Sinai, there were rules for humanity.

2.Before Sinai and the Ten Commandments, there were the rules called the Noahide Laws, based on reason and a desire to be able to live with other people, laws against bad behavior, the idea that these injured society: bans on murder, theft, idolatry, sexual immorality, animal cruelty, cursing God, and the need to set up courts to punish the infractions. They are incumbent on everyone, whether one respects the Bible or not, because they are so obvious.
The benefit of the Bible is that it tells society how to be good.

“Noahide Laws, also called Noachian Laws, a Jewish Talmudic designation for seven biblical laws given to Adam and to Noah before the revelation to Moses on Mt. Sinai and consequently binding on all mankind.” Noahide Laws | Judaism


“According to Jewish tradition, non-Jews who adhere to these laws …are said to be followers of Noahidism and regarded as righteous gentiles, who are assured of a place in …the world to come, the final reward of the righteous.” Seven Laws of Noah - Wikipedia





3. Now for the idea that the rational, the common sense method is better than specific rules of religious morality. Can a human being be good without reference to God? As the saying goes, ‘Going to church doesn’t make you a good Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.’ Sure….there could be good pagans….or bad religious folks. While it is true that one can be moral and good and not religious, the idea does not work for all or even most, and certainly not for entire societies, not in the long term.

Why? Because there is no force behind reason. Take slavery as an example. There is no rational way to convince the slaveholder that he shouldn’t own and sell his fellow man: it makes a great profit, makes his life easier. He can even claim that his slaves live longer and better than many free men.

Or, take as an example, a sadist who gets satisfaction from murdering children. If there is no God who declares that such an act is wrong, then my arguing such is simply my opinion versus that of the murderer. Without God, good and evil are a matter of taste.





And, there is the obvious case today: the Democrat Party actually favors infanticide….and have convinced many to still vote for this….paganism. Abortion up to actual birth, and allowing one born in this manner to die.....is human sacrifice.

No coincidence that the same party eschews religion.

VP Christian, conservative, republican Mike Pence

said....

Mike Pence: 'I'm a Christian, a conservative, and a Republican — in ...

https://theweek.com/.../mike-pence-im-christian-conservative-republican--that-order
Jul 20, 2016 - On Wednesday, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence accepted the Republican vice presidential nomination and gave the American people more insight ...

Kindly note his PATRIOTISM didn't even make the list!

So...Christian, Conservative, Republican politicalchic...

how low on the list is YOUR patriotism?


because I question the PATRIOTISM of ANYONE who can list 3 things more important than his loyalty to America.

So...

how LOW is YOUR loyalty?

You linked your post to this......

1.Perhaps God was tired out from creating the world, or didn’t feel it necessary to intermingle with the kids, so he didn’t ….until Moses, in 1313 BCE. That’s when he offered the contract, the Ten Commandments, acceptance of which sent mankind off to the races, producing the greatest culture ever known: Western Civilization.




BTW, even before the events on Sinai, there were rules for humanity.

2.Before Sinai and the Ten Commandments, there were the rules called the Noahide Laws, based on reason and a desire to be able to live with other people, laws against bad behavior, the idea that these injured society: bans on murder, theft, idolatry, sexual immorality, animal cruelty, cursing God, and the need to set up courts to punish the infractions. They are incumbent on everyone, whether one respects the Bible or not, because they are so obvious.
The benefit of the Bible is that it tells society how to be good.

“Noahide Laws, also called Noachian Laws, a Jewish Talmudic designation for seven biblical laws given to Adam and to Noah before the revelation to Moses on Mt. Sinai and consequently binding on all mankind.” Noahide Laws | Judaism


“According to Jewish tradition, non-Jews who adhere to these laws …are said to be followers of Noahidism and regarded as righteous gentiles, who are assured of a place in …the world to come, the final reward of the righteous.” Seven Laws of Noah - Wikipedia





3. Now for the idea that the rational, the common sense method is better than specific rules of religious morality. Can a human being be good without reference to God? As the saying goes, ‘Going to church doesn’t make you a good Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.’ Sure….there could be good pagans….or bad religious folks. While it is true that one can be moral and good and not religious, the idea does not work for all or even most, and certainly not for entire societies, not in the long term.

Why? Because there is no force behind reason. Take slavery as an example. There is no rational way to convince the slaveholder that he shouldn’t own and sell his fellow man: it makes a great profit, makes his life easier. He can even claim that his slaves live longer and better than many free men.

Or, take as an example, a sadist who gets satisfaction from murdering children. If there is no God who declares that such an act is wrong, then my arguing such is simply my opinion versus that of the murderer. Without God, good and evil are a matter of taste.





And, there is the obvious case today: the Democrat Party actually favors infanticide….and have convinced many to still vote for this….paganism. Abortion up to actual birth, and allowing one born in this manner to die.....is human sacrifice.

No coincidence that the same party eschews religion.





Now....focus like a laser: what does your post have to do with the post to which you've linked?


It appears that my post so wounded you, that you are unable to think straight.....

.....or, are you simply never able to think at all?????

You simply rage at ideas you cannot comprehend?

 

[PoliticalChic]

….there were gods.



1.Perhaps God was tired out from creating the world, or didn’t feel it necessary to intermingle with the kids, so he didn’t ….until Moses, in 1313 BCE. That’s when he offered the contract, the Ten Commandments, acceptance of which sent mankind off to the races, producing the greatest culture ever known: Western Civilization.




BTW, even before the events on Sinai, there were rules for humanity.

2.Before Sinai and the Ten Commandments, there were the rules called the Noahide Laws, based on reason and a desire to be able to live with other people, laws against bad behavior, the idea that these injured society: bans on murder, theft, idolatry, sexual immorality, animal cruelty, cursing God, and the need to set up courts to punish the infractions. They are incumbent on everyone, whether one respects the Bible or not, because they are so obvious.
The benefit of the Bible is that it tells society how to be good.

“Noahide Laws, also called Noachian Laws, a Jewish Talmudic designation for seven biblical laws given to Adam and to Noah before the revelation to Moses on Mt. Sinai and consequently binding on all mankind.” Noahide Laws | Judaism


“According to Jewish tradition, non-Jews who adhere to these laws …are said to be followers of Noahidism and regarded as righteous gentiles, who are assured of a place in …the world to come, the final reward of the righteous.” Seven Laws of Noah - Wikipedia





3. Now for the idea that the rational, the common sense method is better than specific rules of religious morality. Can a human being be good without reference to God? As the saying goes, ‘Going to church doesn’t make you a good Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.’ Sure….there could be good pagans….or bad religious folks. While it is true that one can be moral and good and not religious, the idea does not work for all or even most, and certainly not for entire societies, not in the long term.

Why? Because there is no force behind reason. Take slavery as an example. There is no rational way to convince the slaveholder that he shouldn’t own and sell his fellow man: it makes a great profit, makes his life easier. He can even claim that his slaves live longer and better than many free men.

Or, take as an example, a sadist who gets satisfaction from murdering children. If there is no God who declares that such an act is wrong, then my arguing such is simply my opinion versus that of the murderer. Without God, good and evil are a matter of taste.





And, there is the obvious case today: the Democrat Party actually favors infanticide….and have convinced many to still vote for this….paganism. Abortion up to actual birth, and allowing one born in this manner to die.....is human sacrifice.

No coincidence that the same party eschews religion.

 

[PoliticalChic]

….there were gods.



1.Perhaps God was tired out from creating the world, or didn’t feel it necessary to intermingle with the kids, so he didn’t ….until Moses, in 1313 BCE. That’s when he offered the contract, the Ten Commandments, acceptance of which sent mankind off to the races, producing the greatest culture ever known: Western Civilization.




BTW, even before the events on Sinai, there were rules for humanity.

2.Before Sinai and the Ten Commandments, there were the rules called the Noahide Laws, based on reason and a desire to be able to live with other people, laws against bad behavior, the idea that these injured society: bans on murder, theft, idolatry, sexual immorality, animal cruelty, cursing God, and the need to set up courts to punish the infractions. They are incumbent on everyone, whether one respects the Bible or not, because they are so obvious.
The benefit of the Bible is that it tells society how to be good.

“Noahide Laws, also called Noachian Laws, a Jewish Talmudic designation for seven biblical laws given to Adam and to Noah before the revelation to Moses on Mt. Sinai and consequently binding on all mankind.” Noahide Laws | Judaism


“According to Jewish tradition, non-Jews who adhere to these laws …are said to be followers of Noahidism and regarded as righteous gentiles, who are assured of a place in …the world to come, the final reward of the righteous.” Seven Laws of Noah - Wikipedia





3. Now for the idea that the rational, the common sense method is better than specific rules of religious morality. Can a human being be good without reference to God? As the saying goes, ‘Going to church doesn’t make you a good Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.’ Sure….there could be good pagans….or bad religious folks. While it is true that one can be moral and good and not religious, the idea does not work for all or even most, and certainly not for entire societies, not in the long term.

Why? Because there is no force behind reason. Take slavery as an example. There is no rational way to convince the slaveholder that he shouldn’t own and sell his fellow man: it makes a great profit, makes his life easier. He can even claim that his slaves live longer and better than many free men.

Or, take as an example, a sadist who gets satisfaction from murdering children. If there is no God who declares that such an act is wrong, then my arguing such is simply my opinion versus that of the murderer. Without God, good and evil are a matter of taste.





And, there is the obvious case today: the Democrat Party actually favors infanticide….and have convinced many to still vote for this….paganism. Abortion up to actual birth, and allowing one born in this manner to die.....is human sacrifice.

No coincidence that the same party eschews religion.

 

[OldLady]

Have I made clear why no Democrat/Liberal/Progressive can explain or defend the agenda of the party they support?

This:

The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism…

No one is trying to defend that crap because it's nothing but nasty partisan bullshit.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Have I made clear why no Democrat/Liberal/Progressive can explain or defend the agenda of the party they support?

This:

The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism…

No one is trying to defend that crap because it's nothing but nasty partisan bullshit.

I recognize how deeply the truth, my posts, wound you, but do try to use adult language and eschew the vulgarity.



Let me give you another chance......are you disputing that the Democrat Party stands for exactly what I wrote: full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism…



Now.....think it over carefully before you put your hoof in your mouth......and consider that, if this is the first time you have tried to think, it may result in an aneurysm.