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Ben Carson did research on 17 week fetal tissue

GFY, Roots, you're the biggest damn liar to ever grace a forum. I still remember that BS photo of your house you claimed was damaged in a storm....before you realized we knew all about image search, BAHAHAHAHAHAHA You old hags used to get smacked around silly. Oh me achin ribs, that was hilarious

No, kosher liar, you're Queen Liar! You've more than proven that on this thread.


Wrong person,Shitting Bull. LMAO

Yeah, it's hard to keep you liars straight.

Well, Shitting Bull you could prove I've lied but since we both know you can't why don't you just shut your idiotic pie hole, dunce? You're just an easy target, too stupid to take serious and too quick to lose your temper and start acting the fool.

Lose my temper? I've done nothing but smile at you lying assholes today.

Anyone who comes back at me with a post I made in 2012 about my neighbor's house being destroyed by Hurricane Sandy as an argument to support their position on Planned Parenthood is a total and complete loser.
 
While opining on the uselessness of fetal tissue research to Megyn Kelly Dr. Carson neglected to mention his own paper Colloid Cysts of the Third Ventricle: Immunohistochemical evidence for nonneuropithelial differentiation published in Hum Pathol 23:811-816 in 1992. The materials and methods describe using “human choroid plexus ependyma and nasal mucosa from two fetuses aborted in the ninth and 17th week of gestation.”

Yes, Dr. Ben Carson has done research on fetal tissue and published his findings. His name is on the paper so that means he had a substantive role in the research and supports the methods and findings.

How does one explain this given Carson’s stand on fetal tissue research?

Perhaps Dr. Carson feels that only his work delivered the goods and all other researchers have produced inconsequential work, an Ebola vaccine clearly not of merit by Carson’s logic.

Could he think his own research was useless? However, if it was non contributory to the field why was it published?

More: Ben Carson did research on 17 week fetal tissue - Dr. Jen Gunter

Did Carson forget about his research on fetal tissue?


His position has evolved...
 
While opining on the uselessness of fetal tissue research to Megyn Kelly Dr. Carson neglected to mention his own paper Colloid Cysts of the Third Ventricle: Immunohistochemical evidence for nonneuropithelial differentiation published in Hum Pathol 23:811-816 in 1992. The materials and methods describe using “human choroid plexus ependyma and nasal mucosa from two fetuses aborted in the ninth and 17th week of gestation.”

Yes, Dr. Ben Carson has done research on fetal tissue and published his findings. His name is on the paper so that means he had a substantive role in the research and supports the methods and findings.

How does one explain this given Carson’s stand on fetal tissue research?

Perhaps Dr. Carson feels that only his work delivered the goods and all other researchers have produced inconsequential work, an Ebola vaccine clearly not of merit by Carson’s logic.

Could he think his own research was useless? However, if it was non contributory to the field why was it published?

More: Ben Carson did research on 17 week fetal tissue - Dr. Jen Gunter

Did Carson forget about his research on fetal tissue?


Cool. So clearly you fully support Carson's research. So what's the problem?
 
The issue isn't the use of the tissue Lakoturd, it's the fact that PP is profiting off the murder of babies and lying about it.

If you bed wetters weren't so dangerously stupid, not to mention souless, moraless and thoughtless you'd know it. You'd know SOMETHING, but you prove everyday that you don't know shit.

Unspinning the Planned Parenthood Video

Several Republican presidential candidates have claimed that Planned Parenthood is “profiting” from abortions. But the full, unedited video they cite as evidence shows a Planned Parenthood executive repeatedly saying its clinics want to cover their costs, not make money, when donating fetal tissue from abortions for scientific research.

Four experts in the field of human tissue procurement told us the price range discussed in the video — $30 to $100 per patient — represents a reasonable fee. “There’s no way there’s a profit at that price,” said Sherilyn J. Sawyer, the director of Harvard University and Brigham and Women’s Hospital’s “biorepository.”

Republicans made their claims following the release of a secretly recorded video showing Deborah Nucatola, the senior director of medical services at Planned Parenthood, discussing the procurement of fetal tissues when conducting abortions. The edited video, released July 14 by an anti-abortion group called the Center for Medical Progress, leaves the impression that Nucatola is talking about Planned Parenthood affiliates making money from fetal tissue. But the edited video ignores other things Nucatola said that contradict that idea.

More: Unspinning the Planned Parenthood Video

Yet NaziCons keep making shit up.


The $30-100 is for shipping. And if anyone has ever tried to overnight anything from the east coast to California on UPS/Fedex they know that's still about half of what it actually costs for a one-pound box.

The makers of these videos have very good editors.

So why different amounts "shipping" costs for different parts? Why do they get more money if it's intact, if it's just shipping?

Baby killers. Nasty.
It's Shipping and Handling Costs, not just shipping alone, and I would imagine that depending on how the specimen had to be handled costs less or more...as example, in blood banking, from a whole unit of blood comes packed red blood cells and plasma and platelets and factor 8 (Cryo) all come from a fresh, whole unit of Blood, through different measures taken with the whole unit of blood...to have a unit of Red Packed blood cells, you centrifuge a whole unit of blood for a certain time period at a certain speed to draw off the plasma and leave the packed red blood cells...so, even though a whole unit of blood is red blood cells and plasma and platelets etc all in one....it was the CHEAPEST blood component to buy, because it did not have to be handled more than once, other than type/ matching...(but the whole unit of blood had to be at a certain refrigeration temperature at all times, while the Plasma drawn off of it, did not have to be refrigerated at all when shipping it), but the platelets drawn off of the whole unit of blood after it's protocol spin in the centrifuge had to be FROZEN immediately and transported frozen and stored frozen....in a specific container, so the separated blood components, for the handling, which includes drawing it off of the whole blood and specific protocols for doing such and in maintaining the temperature for each component differently, would be included in the handling charge....

I am thinking that each type of tissue transfers, have protocols on how and what kind of container for whatever specific size, and maintained at whatever protocol temperature is part of the handling charges and this is why shipping and handling fees change and are higher or lower....and even fees from one part of the country verses another part of the country could change those fees as well.... handling fees is exactly what it has always been, and that is the cost of every action taken, and every container used to retrieve, and maintain to protocol, the tissue specimen.
 
The issue isn't the use of the tissue Lakoturd, it's the fact that PP is profiting off the murder of babies and lying about it.

If you bed wetters weren't so dangerously stupid, not to mention souless, moraless and thoughtless you'd know it. You'd know SOMETHING, but you prove everyday that you don't know shit.

Unspinning the Planned Parenthood Video

Several Republican presidential candidates have claimed that Planned Parenthood is “profiting” from abortions. But the full, unedited video they cite as evidence shows a Planned Parenthood executive repeatedly saying its clinics want to cover their costs, not make money, when donating fetal tissue from abortions for scientific research.

Four experts in the field of human tissue procurement told us the price range discussed in the video — $30 to $100 per patient — represents a reasonable fee. “There’s no way there’s a profit at that price,” said Sherilyn J. Sawyer, the director of Harvard University and Brigham and Women’s Hospital’s “biorepository.”

Republicans made their claims following the release of a secretly recorded video showing Deborah Nucatola, the senior director of medical services at Planned Parenthood, discussing the procurement of fetal tissues when conducting abortions. The edited video, released July 14 by an anti-abortion group called the Center for Medical Progress, leaves the impression that Nucatola is talking about Planned Parenthood affiliates making money from fetal tissue. But the edited video ignores other things Nucatola said that contradict that idea.

More: Unspinning the Planned Parenthood Video

Yet NaziCons keep making shit up.


The $30-100 is for shipping. And if anyone has ever tried to overnight anything from the east coast to California on UPS/Fedex they know that's still about half of what it actually costs for a one-pound box.

The makers of these videos have very good editors.

So why different amounts "shipping" costs for different parts? Why do they get more money if it's intact, if it's just shipping?

Baby killers. Nasty.
It's Shipping and Handling Costs, not just shipping alone, and I would imagine that depending on how the specimen had to be handled costs less or more...as example, in blood banking, from a whole unit of blood comes packed red blood cells and plasma and platelets and factor 8 (Cryo) all come from a fresh, whole unit of Blood, through different measures taken with the whole unit of blood...to have a unit of Red Packed blood cells, you centrifuge a whole unit of blood for a certain time period at a certain speed to draw off the plasma and leave the packed red blood cells...so, even though a whole unit of blood is red blood cells and plasma and platelets etc all in one....it was the CHEAPEST blood component to buy, because it did not have to be handled more than once, other than type/ matching...(but the whole unit of blood had to be at a certain refrigeration temperature at all times, while the Plasma drawn off of it, did not have to be refrigerated at all when shipping it), but the platelets drawn off of the whole unit of blood after it's protocol spin in the centrifuge had to be FROZEN immediately and transported frozen and stored frozen....in a specific container, so the separated blood components, for the handling, which includes drawing it off of the whole blood and specific protocols for doing such and in maintaining the temperature for each component differently, would be included in the handling charge....

I am thinking that each type of tissue transfers, have protocols on how and what kind of container for whatever specific size, and maintained at whatever protocol temperature is part of the handling charges and this is why shipping and handling fees change and are higher or lower....and even fees from one part of the country verses another part of the country could change those fees as well.... handling fees is exactly what it has always been, and that is the cost of every action taken, and every container used to retrieve, and maintain to protocol, the tissue specimen.
That's a whole lotta justification for selling dead baby parts. Psssst...shipping for three oz of brain is the same as 3 oz of lung or legs.
 
According to Ben Carson, fetal tissue used to be obtained from miscarriages and ectopic pregnancies. He would welcome a discussion on the use of killing babies for their component parts.

Democrats used to be the party of slavery, buying and selling human beings. They are STILL buying and selling black people today! Their justification is "Well, we kill them first now."
 
The issue isn't the use of the tissue Lakoturd, it's the fact that PP is profiting off the murder of babies and lying about it.

If you bed wetters weren't so dangerously stupid, not to mention souless, moraless and thoughtless you'd know it. You'd know SOMETHING, but you prove everyday that you don't know shit.

Unspinning the Planned Parenthood Video

Several Republican presidential candidates have claimed that Planned Parenthood is “profiting” from abortions. But the full, unedited video they cite as evidence shows a Planned Parenthood executive repeatedly saying its clinics want to cover their costs, not make money, when donating fetal tissue from abortions for scientific research.

Four experts in the field of human tissue procurement told us the price range discussed in the video — $30 to $100 per patient — represents a reasonable fee. “There’s no way there’s a profit at that price,” said Sherilyn J. Sawyer, the director of Harvard University and Brigham and Women’s Hospital’s “biorepository.”

Republicans made their claims following the release of a secretly recorded video showing Deborah Nucatola, the senior director of medical services at Planned Parenthood, discussing the procurement of fetal tissues when conducting abortions. The edited video, released July 14 by an anti-abortion group called the Center for Medical Progress, leaves the impression that Nucatola is talking about Planned Parenthood affiliates making money from fetal tissue. But the edited video ignores other things Nucatola said that contradict that idea.

More: Unspinning the Planned Parenthood Video

Yet NaziCons keep making shit up.


The $30-100 is for shipping. And if anyone has ever tried to overnight anything from the east coast to California on UPS/Fedex they know that's still about half of what it actually costs for a one-pound box.

The makers of these videos have very good editors.

So why different amounts "shipping" costs for different parts? Why do they get more money if it's intact, if it's just shipping?

Baby killers. Nasty.
It's Shipping and Handling Costs, not just shipping alone, and I would imagine that depending on how the specimen had to be handled costs less or more...as example, in blood banking, from a whole unit of blood comes packed red blood cells and plasma and platelets and factor 8 (Cryo) all come from a fresh, whole unit of Blood, through different measures taken with the whole unit of blood...to have a unit of Red Packed blood cells, you centrifuge a whole unit of blood for a certain time period at a certain speed to draw off the plasma and leave the packed red blood cells...so, even though a whole unit of blood is red blood cells and plasma and platelets etc all in one....it was the CHEAPEST blood component to buy, because it did not have to be handled more than once, other than type/ matching...(but the whole unit of blood had to be at a certain refrigeration temperature at all times, while the Plasma drawn off of it, did not have to be refrigerated at all when shipping it), but the platelets drawn off of the whole unit of blood after it's protocol spin in the centrifuge had to be FROZEN immediately and transported frozen and stored frozen....in a specific container, so the separated blood components, for the handling, which includes drawing it off of the whole blood and specific protocols for doing such and in maintaining the temperature for each component differently, would be included in the handling charge....

I am thinking that each type of tissue transfers, have protocols on how and what kind of container for whatever specific size, and maintained at whatever protocol temperature is part of the handling charges and this is why shipping and handling fees change and are higher or lower....and even fees from one part of the country verses another part of the country could change those fees as well.... handling fees is exactly what it has always been, and that is the cost of every action taken, and every container used to retrieve, and maintain to protocol, the tissue specimen.
That's a whole lotta justification for selling dead baby parts. Psssst...shipping for three oz of brain is the same as 3 oz of lung or legs.
Come on...you're not including the cost of obtaining the parts.
Brains, for example are more difficult because the tiny wee skull has to be split and prised open whereas a leg can just be ripped off in one piece.
 
The issue isn't the use of the tissue Lakoturd, it's the fact that PP is profiting off the murder of babies and lying about it.

If you bed wetters weren't so dangerously stupid, not to mention souless, moraless and thoughtless you'd know it. You'd know SOMETHING, but you prove everyday that you don't know shit.

Unspinning the Planned Parenthood Video

Several Republican presidential candidates have claimed that Planned Parenthood is “profiting” from abortions. But the full, unedited video they cite as evidence shows a Planned Parenthood executive repeatedly saying its clinics want to cover their costs, not make money, when donating fetal tissue from abortions for scientific research.

Four experts in the field of human tissue procurement told us the price range discussed in the video — $30 to $100 per patient — represents a reasonable fee. “There’s no way there’s a profit at that price,” said Sherilyn J. Sawyer, the director of Harvard University and Brigham and Women’s Hospital’s “biorepository.”

Republicans made their claims following the release of a secretly recorded video showing Deborah Nucatola, the senior director of medical services at Planned Parenthood, discussing the procurement of fetal tissues when conducting abortions. The edited video, released July 14 by an anti-abortion group called the Center for Medical Progress, leaves the impression that Nucatola is talking about Planned Parenthood affiliates making money from fetal tissue. But the edited video ignores other things Nucatola said that contradict that idea.

More: Unspinning the Planned Parenthood Video

Yet NaziCons keep making shit up.


The $30-100 is for shipping. And if anyone has ever tried to overnight anything from the east coast to California on UPS/Fedex they know that's still about half of what it actually costs for a one-pound box.

The makers of these videos have very good editors.

So why different amounts "shipping" costs for different parts? Why do they get more money if it's intact, if it's just shipping?

Baby killers. Nasty.
It's Shipping and Handling Costs, not just shipping alone, and I would imagine that depending on how the specimen had to be handled costs less or more...as example, in blood banking, from a whole unit of blood comes packed red blood cells and plasma and platelets and factor 8 (Cryo) all come from a fresh, whole unit of Blood, through different measures taken with the whole unit of blood...to have a unit of Red Packed blood cells, you centrifuge a whole unit of blood for a certain time period at a certain speed to draw off the plasma and leave the packed red blood cells...so, even though a whole unit of blood is red blood cells and plasma and platelets etc all in one....it was the CHEAPEST blood component to buy, because it did not have to be handled more than once, other than type/ matching...(but the whole unit of blood had to be at a certain refrigeration temperature at all times, while the Plasma drawn off of it, did not have to be refrigerated at all when shipping it), but the platelets drawn off of the whole unit of blood after it's protocol spin in the centrifuge had to be FROZEN immediately and transported frozen and stored frozen....in a specific container, so the separated blood components, for the handling, which includes drawing it off of the whole blood and specific protocols for doing such and in maintaining the temperature for each component differently, would be included in the handling charge....

I am thinking that each type of tissue transfers, have protocols on how and what kind of container for whatever specific size, and maintained at whatever protocol temperature is part of the handling charges and this is why shipping and handling fees change and are higher or lower....and even fees from one part of the country verses another part of the country could change those fees as well.... handling fees is exactly what it has always been, and that is the cost of every action taken, and every container used to retrieve, and maintain to protocol, the tissue specimen.
That's a whole lotta justification for selling dead baby parts. Psssst...shipping for three oz of brain is the same as 3 oz of lung or legs.
And you know this how?
 
According to Ben Carson, fetal tissue used to be obtained from miscarriages and ectopic pregnancies. He would welcome a discussion on the use of killing babies for their component parts.

Democrats used to be the party of slavery, buying and selling human beings. They are STILL buying and selling black people today! Their justification is "Well, we kill them first now."
False the party that would become the Republican party bought and sold slaves with same regularly as the democrats.
As we all know it was republicans that tried to distroy the civil rights movement legal abortions and same sex marriage.
Which begs the question who fucked up more.
 
U.S. scientists have been using such cells for decades to develop vaccines and seek treatments for a host of ailments, from vision loss and neurological disorders to cancer and AIDS.

Scientists say fetal tissue remains essential for vaccines and developing treatments

Scientists wouldn't be using fetal tissue for research if there were no benefits to mankind.

It is like having a blank slate to work with. The cells can become almost anything.

The use if fetal cells takes decades of research less time and so much more flexible
 
If tissue, any tissue, was about to be thrown out, but research said wait, we can use that to save lives.........

Why is that objectionable if the tissue is donated?

Is it just the idea of it not yet being human? It is rejected tissue. If the donor does not care what happens, why should you, it's not your tissue?
 
No, actually its nothing at all like that.
No, it's a perfect comparison.
Not the way you think it is
If you mean logical.
Logic is not in your skill set.
How would you know?
A pathologist doesn't kill or endorse the killing of the people he autopsies any more or less than Carson would abort or endorse the abortion of the fetuses he's done research on. That is about as logical as it gets.


People die in many ways. Pathology is also about testing tissue in hospitals from caner to fibroids to what ever is removed. Even a mole or skin cancer is sent to the pathologist to be tested.
 
The issue isn't the use of the tissue Lakoturd, it's the fact that PP is profiting off the murder of babies and lying about it.

If you bed wetters weren't so dangerously stupid, not to mention souless, moraless and thoughtless you'd know it. You'd know SOMETHING, but you prove everyday that you don't know shit.

Unspinning the Planned Parenthood Video

Several Republican presidential candidates have claimed that Planned Parenthood is “profiting” from abortions. But the full, unedited video they cite as evidence shows a Planned Parenthood executive repeatedly saying its clinics want to cover their costs, not make money, when donating fetal tissue from abortions for scientific research.

Four experts in the field of human tissue procurement told us the price range discussed in the video — $30 to $100 per patient — represents a reasonable fee. “There’s no way there’s a profit at that price,” said Sherilyn J. Sawyer, the director of Harvard University and Brigham and Women’s Hospital’s “biorepository.”

Republicans made their claims following the release of a secretly recorded video showing Deborah Nucatola, the senior director of medical services at Planned Parenthood, discussing the procurement of fetal tissues when conducting abortions. The edited video, released July 14 by an anti-abortion group called the Center for Medical Progress, leaves the impression that Nucatola is talking about Planned Parenthood affiliates making money from fetal tissue. But the edited video ignores other things Nucatola said that contradict that idea.

More: Unspinning the Planned Parenthood Video

Yet NaziCons keep making shit up.


The $30-100 is for shipping. And if anyone has ever tried to overnight anything from the east coast to California on UPS/Fedex they know that's still about half of what it actually costs for a one-pound box.

The makers of these videos have very good editors.

So why different amounts "shipping" costs for different parts? Why do they get more money if it's intact, if it's just shipping?

Baby killers. Nasty.
It's Shipping and Handling Costs, not just shipping alone, and I would imagine that depending on how the specimen had to be handled costs less or more...as example, in blood banking, from a whole unit of blood comes packed red blood cells and plasma and platelets and factor 8 (Cryo) all come from a fresh, whole unit of Blood, through different measures taken with the whole unit of blood...to have a unit of Red Packed blood cells, you centrifuge a whole unit of blood for a certain time period at a certain speed to draw off the plasma and leave the packed red blood cells...so, even though a whole unit of blood is red blood cells and plasma and platelets etc all in one....it was the CHEAPEST blood component to buy, because it did not have to be handled more than once, other than type/ matching...(but the whole unit of blood had to be at a certain refrigeration temperature at all times, while the Plasma drawn off of it, did not have to be refrigerated at all when shipping it), but the platelets drawn off of the whole unit of blood after it's protocol spin in the centrifuge had to be FROZEN immediately and transported frozen and stored frozen....in a specific container, so the separated blood components, for the handling, which includes drawing it off of the whole blood and specific protocols for doing such and in maintaining the temperature for each component differently, would be included in the handling charge....

I am thinking that each type of tissue transfers, have protocols on how and what kind of container for whatever specific size, and maintained at whatever protocol temperature is part of the handling charges and this is why shipping and handling fees change and are higher or lower....and even fees from one part of the country verses another part of the country could change those fees as well.... handling fees is exactly what it has always been, and that is the cost of every action taken, and every container used to retrieve, and maintain to protocol, the tissue specimen.

shipping and handling of tissue is usually a couple hundred and up even for biopsy outside a hospital.

Why would fetal tissue not be the same?

Those transporting the tissue don't know if they are moving ebola, plague, legonares ..... They have to treat it the same and the transporter has insurance and liability in case there is some accident or contamination.
it is not he local mail boy carrying a box to the next office. Body fluids, blood, they all have to be handled speically. Would you want the local garbage man transporting and handling chemical waste from a plant?
 
The issue isn't the use of the tissue Lakoturd, it's the fact that PP is profiting off the murder of babies and lying about it.

If you bed wetters weren't so dangerously stupid, not to mention souless, moraless and thoughtless you'd know it. You'd know SOMETHING, but you prove everyday that you don't know shit.

Unspinning the Planned Parenthood Video

Several Republican presidential candidates have claimed that Planned Parenthood is “profiting” from abortions. But the full, unedited video they cite as evidence shows a Planned Parenthood executive repeatedly saying its clinics want to cover their costs, not make money, when donating fetal tissue from abortions for scientific research.

Four experts in the field of human tissue procurement told us the price range discussed in the video — $30 to $100 per patient — represents a reasonable fee. “There’s no way there’s a profit at that price,” said Sherilyn J. Sawyer, the director of Harvard University and Brigham and Women’s Hospital’s “biorepository.”

Republicans made their claims following the release of a secretly recorded video showing Deborah Nucatola, the senior director of medical services at Planned Parenthood, discussing the procurement of fetal tissues when conducting abortions. The edited video, released July 14 by an anti-abortion group called the Center for Medical Progress, leaves the impression that Nucatola is talking about Planned Parenthood affiliates making money from fetal tissue. But the edited video ignores other things Nucatola said that contradict that idea.

More: Unspinning the Planned Parenthood Video

Yet NaziCons keep making shit up.


The $30-100 is for shipping. And if anyone has ever tried to overnight anything from the east coast to California on UPS/Fedex they know that's still about half of what it actually costs for a one-pound box.

The makers of these videos have very good editors.

So why different amounts "shipping" costs for different parts? Why do they get more money if it's intact, if it's just shipping?

Baby killers. Nasty.
It's Shipping and Handling Costs, not just shipping alone, and I would imagine that depending on how the specimen had to be handled costs less or more...as example, in blood banking, from a whole unit of blood comes packed red blood cells and plasma and platelets and factor 8 (Cryo) all come from a fresh, whole unit of Blood, through different measures taken with the whole unit of blood...to have a unit of Red Packed blood cells, you centrifuge a whole unit of blood for a certain time period at a certain speed to draw off the plasma and leave the packed red blood cells...so, even though a whole unit of blood is red blood cells and plasma and platelets etc all in one....it was the CHEAPEST blood component to buy, because it did not have to be handled more than once, other than type/ matching...(but the whole unit of blood had to be at a certain refrigeration temperature at all times, while the Plasma drawn off of it, did not have to be refrigerated at all when shipping it), but the platelets drawn off of the whole unit of blood after it's protocol spin in the centrifuge had to be FROZEN immediately and transported frozen and stored frozen....in a specific container, so the separated blood components, for the handling, which includes drawing it off of the whole blood and specific protocols for doing such and in maintaining the temperature for each component differently, would be included in the handling charge....

I am thinking that each type of tissue transfers, have protocols on how and what kind of container for whatever specific size, and maintained at whatever protocol temperature is part of the handling charges and this is why shipping and handling fees change and are higher or lower....and even fees from one part of the country verses another part of the country could change those fees as well.... handling fees is exactly what it has always been, and that is the cost of every action taken, and every container used to retrieve, and maintain to protocol, the tissue specimen.
That's a whole lotta justification for selling dead baby parts. Psssst...shipping for three oz of brain is the same as 3 oz of lung or legs.
And you know this how?

She doesn't. She's always in way over her three oz head.
 
The issue isn't the use of the tissue Lakoturd, it's the fact that PP is profiting off the murder of babies and lying about it.

If you bed wetters weren't so dangerously stupid, not to mention souless, moraless and thoughtless you'd know it. You'd know SOMETHING, but you prove everyday that you don't know shit.

Unspinning the Planned Parenthood Video

Several Republican presidential candidates have claimed that Planned Parenthood is “profiting” from abortions. But the full, unedited video they cite as evidence shows a Planned Parenthood executive repeatedly saying its clinics want to cover their costs, not make money, when donating fetal tissue from abortions for scientific research.

Four experts in the field of human tissue procurement told us the price range discussed in the video — $30 to $100 per patient — represents a reasonable fee. “There’s no way there’s a profit at that price,” said Sherilyn J. Sawyer, the director of Harvard University and Brigham and Women’s Hospital’s “biorepository.”

Republicans made their claims following the release of a secretly recorded video showing Deborah Nucatola, the senior director of medical services at Planned Parenthood, discussing the procurement of fetal tissues when conducting abortions. The edited video, released July 14 by an anti-abortion group called the Center for Medical Progress, leaves the impression that Nucatola is talking about Planned Parenthood affiliates making money from fetal tissue. But the edited video ignores other things Nucatola said that contradict that idea.

More: Unspinning the Planned Parenthood Video

Yet NaziCons keep making shit up.


The $30-100 is for shipping. And if anyone has ever tried to overnight anything from the east coast to California on UPS/Fedex they know that's still about half of what it actually costs for a one-pound box.

The makers of these videos have very good editors.

So why different amounts "shipping" costs for different parts? Why do they get more money if it's intact, if it's just shipping?

Baby killers. Nasty.
It's Shipping and Handling Costs, not just shipping alone, and I would imagine that depending on how the specimen had to be handled costs less or more...as example, in blood banking, from a whole unit of blood comes packed red blood cells and plasma and platelets and factor 8 (Cryo) all come from a fresh, whole unit of Blood, through different measures taken with the whole unit of blood...to have a unit of Red Packed blood cells, you centrifuge a whole unit of blood for a certain time period at a certain speed to draw off the plasma and leave the packed red blood cells...so, even though a whole unit of blood is red blood cells and plasma and platelets etc all in one....it was the CHEAPEST blood component to buy, because it did not have to be handled more than once, other than type/ matching...(but the whole unit of blood had to be at a certain refrigeration temperature at all times, while the Plasma drawn off of it, did not have to be refrigerated at all when shipping it), but the platelets drawn off of the whole unit of blood after it's protocol spin in the centrifuge had to be FROZEN immediately and transported frozen and stored frozen....in a specific container, so the separated blood components, for the handling, which includes drawing it off of the whole blood and specific protocols for doing such and in maintaining the temperature for each component differently, would be included in the handling charge....

I am thinking that each type of tissue transfers, have protocols on how and what kind of container for whatever specific size, and maintained at whatever protocol temperature is part of the handling charges and this is why shipping and handling fees change and are higher or lower....and even fees from one part of the country verses another part of the country could change those fees as well.... handling fees is exactly what it has always been, and that is the cost of every action taken, and every container used to retrieve, and maintain to protocol, the tissue specimen.

shipping and handling of tissue is usually a couple hundred and up even for biopsy outside a hospital.

Why would fetal tissue not be the same?

Those transporting the tissue don't know if they are moving ebola, plague, legonares ..... They have to treat it the same and the transporter has insurance and liability in case there is some accident or contamination.
it is not he local mail boy carrying a box to the next office. Body fluids, blood, they all have to be handled speically. Would you want the local garbage man transporting and handling chemical waste from a plant?
Price lists. Altering procedures to get more profits. Fear of lowballing.
 
The issue isn't the use of the tissue Lakoturd, it's the fact that PP is profiting off the murder of babies and lying about it.

If you bed wetters weren't so dangerously stupid, not to mention souless, moraless and thoughtless you'd know it. You'd know SOMETHING, but you prove everyday that you don't know shit.

Unspinning the Planned Parenthood Video

Several Republican presidential candidates have claimed that Planned Parenthood is “profiting” from abortions. But the full, unedited video they cite as evidence shows a Planned Parenthood executive repeatedly saying its clinics want to cover their costs, not make money, when donating fetal tissue from abortions for scientific research.

Four experts in the field of human tissue procurement told us the price range discussed in the video — $30 to $100 per patient — represents a reasonable fee. “There’s no way there’s a profit at that price,” said Sherilyn J. Sawyer, the director of Harvard University and Brigham and Women’s Hospital’s “biorepository.”

Republicans made their claims following the release of a secretly recorded video showing Deborah Nucatola, the senior director of medical services at Planned Parenthood, discussing the procurement of fetal tissues when conducting abortions. The edited video, released July 14 by an anti-abortion group called the Center for Medical Progress, leaves the impression that Nucatola is talking about Planned Parenthood affiliates making money from fetal tissue. But the edited video ignores other things Nucatola said that contradict that idea.

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Yet NaziCons keep making shit up.


The $30-100 is for shipping. And if anyone has ever tried to overnight anything from the east coast to California on UPS/Fedex they know that's still about half of what it actually costs for a one-pound box.

The makers of these videos have very good editors.

So why different amounts "shipping" costs for different parts? Why do they get more money if it's intact, if it's just shipping?

Baby killers. Nasty.
It's Shipping and Handling Costs, not just shipping alone, and I would imagine that depending on how the specimen had to be handled costs less or more...as example, in blood banking, from a whole unit of blood comes packed red blood cells and plasma and platelets and factor 8 (Cryo) all come from a fresh, whole unit of Blood, through different measures taken with the whole unit of blood...to have a unit of Red Packed blood cells, you centrifuge a whole unit of blood for a certain time period at a certain speed to draw off the plasma and leave the packed red blood cells...so, even though a whole unit of blood is red blood cells and plasma and platelets etc all in one....it was the CHEAPEST blood component to buy, because it did not have to be handled more than once, other than type/ matching...(but the whole unit of blood had to be at a certain refrigeration temperature at all times, while the Plasma drawn off of it, did not have to be refrigerated at all when shipping it), but the platelets drawn off of the whole unit of blood after it's protocol spin in the centrifuge had to be FROZEN immediately and transported frozen and stored frozen....in a specific container, so the separated blood components, for the handling, which includes drawing it off of the whole blood and specific protocols for doing such and in maintaining the temperature for each component differently, would be included in the handling charge....

I am thinking that each type of tissue transfers, have protocols on how and what kind of container for whatever specific size, and maintained at whatever protocol temperature is part of the handling charges and this is why shipping and handling fees change and are higher or lower....and even fees from one part of the country verses another part of the country could change those fees as well.... handling fees is exactly what it has always been, and that is the cost of every action taken, and every container used to retrieve, and maintain to protocol, the tissue specimen.

shipping and handling of tissue is usually a couple hundred and up even for biopsy outside a hospital.

Why would fetal tissue not be the same?

Those transporting the tissue don't know if they are moving ebola, plague, legonares ..... They have to treat it the same and the transporter has insurance and liability in case there is some accident or contamination.
it is not he local mail boy carrying a box to the next office. Body fluids, blood, they all have to be handled speically. Would you want the local garbage man transporting and handling chemical waste from a plant?
Price lists. Altering procedures to get more profits. Fear of lowballing.
any credible evidence to support your claim?
 

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