Ben Carson Says Poverty Is A ‘State Of Mind’

[Tom Horn]

This stigma against the poor and impoverished needs to end.

No, your stinking communist democrats need to stop creating poverty to keep people dependent on the crumbs of welfare.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

“So is hunger apparently. Let’s Jedi Mind trick ourselves into eating a steak.”

People on Twitter took Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson to task after he said that poverty was a “state of mind.”

The neurosurgeon, who previously caught heat for suggesting that slaves who were brought to America were “immigrants,” made the controversial comment during a SiriusXM Radio interview with Armstrong Williams released Wednesday.

”I think poverty to a large extent is also a state of mind,” said Carson. “You take somebody that has the right mindset, you can take everything from them and put them on the street, and I guarantee you in a little while they’ll be right back up there.”

Carson’s comments sparked anger among Twitter users, including “Star Trek” actor George Takei. Here’s a sampling:

More: Ben Carson Says Poverty Is A ‘State Of Mind,’ Folks On Twitter Give Him A Piece Of Theirs

Well, Carson certainly lit up Twitter with his bizarre comment about poverty. Some very funny and imaginative ones.

^ From the Party that starved Terri Schiavo to death and said that was "Beautiful"

Yes, poverty is a state of mind so is prosperity

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The two biggest lies I learned growing up were:

1. Life is about making money, and
2. You cannot have a direct relationship with God, you need an intermediary.

What I've learned since is that when you have a direct relationship with God, you have everything

 

[iceberg]

“So is hunger apparently. Let’s Jedi Mind trick ourselves into eating a steak.”

People on Twitter took Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson to task after he said that poverty was a “state of mind.”

The neurosurgeon, who previously caught heat for suggesting that slaves who were brought to America were “immigrants,” made the controversial comment during a SiriusXM Radio interview with Armstrong Williams released Wednesday.

”I think poverty to a large extent is also a state of mind,” said Carson. “You take somebody that has the right mindset, you can take everything from them and put them on the street, and I guarantee you in a little while they’ll be right back up there.”

Carson’s comments sparked anger among Twitter users, including “Star Trek” actor George Takei. Here’s a sampling:

More: Ben Carson Says Poverty Is A ‘State Of Mind,’ Folks On Twitter Give Him A Piece Of Theirs

Well, Carson certainly lit up Twitter with his bizarre comment about poverty. Some very funny and imaginative ones.

he's right to a degree. i've seen people win lotteries and be poor a year later. millions, gone. i've seen people work out of that lifestyle, lose it all, then work out of it again.

you think it was luck or "their state of minds" that caused them to spend it all and or earn it back?

 

[Tom Horn]

The two biggest lies I learned growing up were:

1. Life is about making money, and
2. You cannot have a direct relationship with God, you need an intermediary.

What I've learned since is that when you have a direct relationship with God, you have everything

I agree about the "intermediary".....watching the arrogance of the Pope, a man who was ELECTED by other Cardinals, look suspiciously at Trump ticked me off. The splendor of the Vatican compared to the desperate poverty millions of Catholics live in is also telling. He's no prophet and I doubt he'll get into Heaven any faster than you or I.

 

[rightwinger]

I actually think Carson makes a valid point, the message probably could have been delivered a little better, but there is a big problem with the culture and mindset of our poor that can only be solved by better education, community programs, and positive influences to help them understand that anything is possible. There are many many kids out there that have no concept of what the old fashioned "American Dream" is. It would sure be great to bring that spirit back.

There is an old saying....

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day
Teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime

It makes a lot of sense except....What do you do when there are no more fish in the pond?

Poor communities are poor because economic opportunities have dried up. Not just in ghettos and slums but in rural communities in Appalachia and many farming communities

To imply that the people in these communities are suffering just because they lack "the right stuff" is simplistic and is damaging public policy

Until recently most people who moved and started over did so because their current situation sucked and they left seeking something better.

If we want them to stay where they are, things need to be brought to them, but not hand outs. When one provides a means to live without the need to work, one subsidizes the status quo.

We have had people living in Appalachia for generations, scratching out a living and taking government handouts to get by

Are these people stupid and lazy like Ben Carson claims?

 

[Tom Horn]

We have had people living in Appalachia for generations, scratching out a living and taking government handouts to get by

Are these people stupid and lazy like Ben Carson claims?

They sure as shit are thanks to the schools and food stamps you gave them while closing down their coal mines and telling them to become computer programmers.

 

[martybegan]

I actually think Carson makes a valid point, the message probably could have been delivered a little better, but there is a big problem with the culture and mindset of our poor that can only be solved by better education, community programs, and positive influences to help them understand that anything is possible. There are many many kids out there that have no concept of what the old fashioned "American Dream" is. It would sure be great to bring that spirit back.

There is an old saying....

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day
Teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime

It makes a lot of sense except....What do you do when there are no more fish in the pond?

Poor communities are poor because economic opportunities have dried up. Not just in ghettos and slums but in rural communities in Appalachia and many farming communities

To imply that the people in these communities are suffering just because they lack "the right stuff" is simplistic and is damaging public policy

Until recently most people who moved and started over did so because their current situation sucked and they left seeking something better.

If we want them to stay where they are, things need to be brought to them, but not hand outs. When one provides a means to live without the need to work, one subsidizes the status quo.

We have had people living in Appalachia for generations, scratching out a living and taking government handouts to get by

Are these people stupid and lazy like Ben Carson claims?

he didn't say they were "stupid and lazy"

Please quote where he said that.

 

[Thinker101]

I actually think Carson makes a valid point, the message probably could have been delivered a little better, but there is a big problem with the culture and mindset of our poor that can only be solved by better education, community programs, and positive influences to help them understand that anything is possible. There are many many kids out there that have no concept of what the old fashioned "American Dream" is. It would sure be great to bring that spirit back.

There is an old saying....

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day
Teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime

It makes a lot of sense except....What do you do when there are no more fish in the pond?

Poor communities are poor because economic opportunities have dried up. Not just in ghettos and slums but in rural communities in Appalachia and many farming communities

To imply that the people in these communities are suffering just because they lack "the right stuff" is simplistic and is damaging public policy

Until recently most people who moved and started over did so because their current situation sucked and they left seeking something better.

If we want them to stay where they are, things need to be brought to them, but not hand outs. When one provides a means to live without the need to work, one subsidizes the status quo.

We have had people living in Appalachia for generations, scratching out a living and taking government handouts to get by

Are these people stupid and lazy like Ben Carson claims?

Yeah, we've been wondering about your state of mind.

 

[rightwinger]

We have had people living in Appalachia for generations, scratching out a living and taking government handouts to get by

Are these people stupid and lazy like Ben Carson claims?

They sure as shit are thanks to the schools and food stamps you gave them while closing down their coal mines and telling them to become computer programmers.

I wasn't the one who invented fracking and made coal an obsolete energy source

 

[rightwinger]

I actually think Carson makes a valid point, the message probably could have been delivered a little better, but there is a big problem with the culture and mindset of our poor that can only be solved by better education, community programs, and positive influences to help them understand that anything is possible. There are many many kids out there that have no concept of what the old fashioned "American Dream" is. It would sure be great to bring that spirit back.

There is an old saying....

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day
Teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime

It makes a lot of sense except....What do you do when there are no more fish in the pond?

Poor communities are poor because economic opportunities have dried up. Not just in ghettos and slums but in rural communities in Appalachia and many farming communities

To imply that the people in these communities are suffering just because they lack "the right stuff" is simplistic and is damaging public policy

Until recently most people who moved and started over did so because their current situation sucked and they left seeking something better.

If we want them to stay where they are, things need to be brought to them, but not hand outs. When one provides a means to live without the need to work, one subsidizes the status quo.

We have had people living in Appalachia for generations, scratching out a living and taking government handouts to get by

Are these people stupid and lazy like Ben Carson claims?

he didn't say they were "stupid and lazy"

Please quote where he said that.

Lets see?

They are uneducated.......does that equate to stupid?
They are unwilling to work........does that equate to lazy?

 

[Mac1958]

It really is mystifying that people think like Carson does on this.

There are many people who simply lack the capacity to create wealth, or even maintain a decent standard of living, compared to others.

I don't even know where else to go with that.
.

 

[Tom Horn]

I wasn't the one who invented fracking and made coal an obsolete energy source

Tell the half of the world still shivering in the dark when they run out of dried fecal matter to burn that coal is "obsolete"....you really haven't got a clue.

 

[pinqy]

umm how do you think that contradicts what JonKoch wrote? What exactly Is the lie you're claiming?
And interesting shifting of goal posts. Let's look deeper. You say that at the end of 2012, the UE rate was as high as 18% and 26%. Two of the worst places are El Centro, CA and Yuma, AZ. December 2012 their UE rates were 24.7% and 22.7%. (highs for 2012 were 30.9% and 24.7%) So you are correct there. But you're comparing it to the National average of 6.8% at the end of 2008. But in December 2008, the UE rate for El Centro was 23.3% and in Yuma, it was 16.6%

The areas that reached Depression level unemployment ALWAYS have high unemployment.

Everything he said was a fucking lie....

So you can't point out any actual lie and present facts to contradict it.

what was the REAL unemployment rate in the black inner-cities under Obama? As high as 40%.

Possibly. But since no reliable data exist for black inner-city employment then you're just pulling numbers out of your ass. And what do you consider "real" unemployment, anyway?

Your numbers are FAKE same as the rest of your claims about pretty much everything. I can create a graph claiming anything,

If you want the link to my sources, that's easy enough: El Centro, CA unemployment rate and Yuma, AZ unemployment rate Straight from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, I didn't create the graphs. Now, if you want to claim those numbers are fake, you'll need a lot of evidence. And why would anyone fake a 40.2% unemployment rate (which is what El Centro had in July 1992)?

 

[rightwinger]

It really is mystifying that people think like Carson does on this.

There are many people who simply lack the capacity to create wealth, or even maintain a decent standard of living, compared to others.

I don't even know where else to go with that.
.

In any population you are going to have a percentage of people who are very intelligent and are overachievers. Carson is correct in that these people will generally succeed regardless of their station in life

But you will also have people of marginal intelligence who struggle to succeed in life. To assume that the solution can be found in asking them to study harder and work longer is not an answer. Our society used to provide jobs for these people that enabled them to support themselves and their families....we no longer do

 

[rightwinger]

I wasn't the one who invented fracking and made coal an obsolete energy source

Tell the half of the world still shivering in the dark when they run out of dried fecal matter that coal is "obsolete"....you really haven't got a clue.

Why don't you ship them a ton?

 

[WelfareQueen]

You can be broke without being poor....Barry did that to 92,000.000 Americans when he stopped counting them as unemployed.

After 8 years of Dubya/GOP "job creator" policies there were 92,000,000 unemployed and you Klowns still want trickle down?


Retirement Among Baby Boomers Contributing To Shrinking Labor Force. According to The Washington Post, many economists agree the shrinking labor force participation rate is largely explained by a demographic shift, wherein "baby boomers are starting to retire en masse"


Demographics have always played a big role in the rise and fall of the labor force. Between 1960 and 2000, the labor force in the United States surged from 59 percent to a peak of 67.3 percent. That was largely due to the fact that more women were entering the labor force while improvements in health and information technology allowed Americans to work more years.

But since 2000, the labor force rate has been steadily declining as the baby-boom generation has been retiring. Because of this, the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago expects the labor force participation rate to be lower in 2020 than it is today, regardless of how well the economy does.

In a March report titled "Dispelling an Urban Legend," Dean Maki, an economist at Barclays Capital, found that demographics accounted for a majority of the drop in the participation rate since 2002.

The incredible shrinking labor force

TOTAL HORSESHIT. Unemployment at the end of 2008 was 6.8%......4 years later it was as high as 18% and 26% in some areas....worse than the 1930's. And the 2008 debt was $10.6T.....when Barry left office it was $19T. Your lies are tiresome...no, loathsome....you should be deported.

“So is hunger apparently. Let’s Jedi Mind trick ourselves into eating a steak.”

People on Twitter took Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson to task after he said that poverty was a “state of mind.”

The neurosurgeon, who previously caught heat for suggesting that slaves who were brought to America were “immigrants,” made the controversial comment during a SiriusXM Radio interview with Armstrong Williams released Wednesday.

”I think poverty to a large extent is also a state of mind,” said Carson. “You take somebody that has the right mindset, you can take everything from them and put them on the street, and I guarantee you in a little while they’ll be right back up there.”

Carson’s comments sparked anger among Twitter users, including “Star Trek” actor George Takei. Here’s a sampling:

More: Ben Carson Says Poverty Is A ‘State Of Mind,’ Folks On Twitter Give Him A Piece Of Theirs

Well, Carson certainly lit up Twitter with his bizarre comment about poverty. Some very funny and imaginative ones.

I've worked on inner city housing projects. That's where Ben Carson grew up. Anyone who does not understand that for many poverty is a mindset and a way of life is fucking ignorant.

But hey...that's the Dimocraps for ya. Gotta keep the darkies on their plantation...poor and uneducated.

lol, one more racist who thinks poverty is all about black people.

Racist!!!!!!!

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Whatever floats your boat

That one didn't float anything but keeping kids up til 3am when they should have been sleeping so they could learn something in school the next day....not that there's anything to learn in the public schools anymore, but at least get something to eat...not that there's anything good to eat there anymore thanks to Mooch.

Go run a program and do it better then. You can cherry pick all the bad examples or failed efforts but that doesn't justify doing nothing. It only justifies a need to do it better.

Or doing something totally different.

Of course, you didn't consider that.

Why would you...you are a lefty.

That's what I just said. Doing something better means making changes, means doing something different you dupe.

Missed it again.

Maybe you get used to the fact that many government programs are built on flawed paradigms.

No matter how good they are, they miss the boat.

Sometimes you have to back to the very think you are trying to get done....and reflect on whether that is the right thing to do.

 

[Tom Horn]

If you want the link to my sources, that's easy enough: El Centro, CA unemployment rate and Straight from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, I didn't create the graphs. Now, if you want to claim those numbers are fake, you'll need a lot of evidence. And why would anyone fake a 40.2% unemployment rate (which is what El Centro had in July 1992)?

Nobody believes anything "your sources" say about anything any more. All you miscreants are good at is lying and blaming your failures on US because we didn't mortgage the entire farm on your worthless schemes. Your leaders are all multi-millionaires who laugh about your clueless defense of them while they clink champagne glasses.

 

[pinqy]

If you want the link to my sources, that's easy enough: El Centro, CA unemployment rate and Straight from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, I didn't create the graphs. Now, if you want to claim those numbers are fake, you'll need a lot of evidence. And why would anyone fake a 40.2% unemployment rate (which is what El Centro had in July 1992)?

Nobody believes anything "your sources" say about anything any more. All you miscreants are good at is lying and blaming your failures on US because we didn't mortgage the entire farm on your worthless schemes. Your leaders are all multi-millionaires who laugh about your clueless defense of them while they clink champagne glasses.

So you can't back up your claims of lying and fake or present any reliable data to show a different story. You're basically just sticking your fingers in your ears and saying "la la la la I can't hear you." Noted.