Bernie Calls For a Moral Economy; Why Not?

[LogikAndReazon]

The imbecile Sanders should be laughed back to whatever mindless, utopian, commune that spawned him...... Eh comrades.........What a f---ing parasite...

 

[bripat9643]

We can change tax policies to encourage a more moral and considerate form of economics, so why not do it?

Why do we prefer to live in an economic jungle instead of a 'well regulated' economic garden?

Which would you rather leave to your kids and grand kids?

At the Vatican, Sanders Calls for a ‘Moral Economy’
During a speech this morning at the Vatican, Senator Bernie Sanders advocated for an end to income inequality in America, condemned Wall Street for contributing to that inequality, and called for “a truly moral economy.”...


Sanders was the only presidential candidate invited to a conference at the Vatican today, which was hosted by the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences. According to The New York Times, Bishop Marcelo Sánchez Sorondo, the academy’s chancellor, said Sanders was invited because he is “the candidate who cites the pope the most in his campaign.”

The conference marks the 25th anniversary of Pope John Paul II’s Centesimus Annus encyclical, which called for social and economic justice at the end of the Cold War. In that encyclical, the Pope spoke out against the “illicit exploitation, speculation, or the breaking of solidarity among working people” in pursuit of profit. That made the conference fertile ground for Sanders to discuss his core campaign issues, including income inequality and corporate greed.

But while Sanders is often challenged to explain the mechanics of his plans to decrease income inequality in the United States, the speech at the Vatican was a rare chance to lay out a purely moral argument for doing so.

“The issue of wealth and income inequality is the great economic issue of our time, the great political issue of our time, and the great moral issue of our time,” he said. “It is an issue that we must confront in my nation and across the world.”

Though Pope Francis wasn’t in attendance at the conference, Sanders invoked the Pope’s speeches and writings, showcasing the similarities between himself and Pope Francis.

“As Pope Francis has stated: ‘Man is not in charge today, money is in charge, money rules,'” Sanders said. “And the Pope has also stated: ‘We have created new idols. The worship of the golden calf of old has found a new and heartless image in the cult of money and the dictatorship of an economy which is faceless and lacking any truly humane goal.'”

What could be more "immoral" than looting money from the people who earned it so you can dispense to ticks on the ass of society?

As it is, you support the 1% who do nothing for you in return.

DUH.

So, objecting to people being looted means you "support" them? Do I support you because I haven't tried to kill you?

 

[PredFan]

Why not? Because there is nothing moral about taking money from someone to give to someone else.

So it's immoral to have a democratic government that decides to collect taxes to help pay for the health and education of the poor.

See, that's how far off the planet the modern American conservative is.

No idiot, I said it is'nt moral to take money from some one and give it to someone else. That is Crazy Berie's whole schtick. His idea of a moral economy is income equality. That is what is immoral.

Equality of opportunity is moral, equality of outcome is not.

Its also Trumpery's and CrazyCruz's.

Difference is, with Bernie, you get something back.

So you say Trump and Cruz want income equality? You are dumber than even I have accused you of being.

 

[oreo]

From my point of view you only have basically three systems, communism, capitalism or dictatorships...

Communism only makes the government officials rich

Capitilism only makes the private individual rich.
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Well, you have every right to think that, but the fact is that it is not true. There are many shades of gray between capitalism and communism and the Golden Mean is somewhere in the middle.

Notify me if any country ever finds it. I wish it to be true, But by the looks of the Panama story this week I have a long wait to go.

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You might be interested in reading about so-called 'Nordic Socialism' which is the kind of Socialism that Sanders wants. Norway which uses that form of socialism has a higher stanard of living than the USA does.

There is no reason we have to live and work in a 'rat eats rat' world.

Sweet Baby Jesus--we are not Norway. We're not EUROPE. This nation is founded on a hard work, pay your own way ethic. It's in our genetics.

This country is center, it always has been, it always will be. It will not elect far left or far right candidates. It would never elect a socialist that was out there campaigning on free college tuition, nor one that is well on record for praising one of the most brutal, murderous dictators to come out of the 20th century, Fidel Castro.

If Sanders by some very remote miracle became the nominee, here is what election night would look like. Just move the blue over to the USSR of Vermont and New Hampshire and color the rest of this country RED.

Reagan v Mondale 1984

The 5 best sentences--Socialism 101

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."Winston Churchill"

These Dramatic Images Sum Up the Chaos in Greece
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/business/international/greece-debt-crisis-euro.html?_r=0

 

[Brain357]

Capitalism and free markets are the moral economy...

Thanks !

The problem is our markets aren't that free and we have lots of crony capitalism.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

We can change tax policies to encourage a more moral and considerate form of economics, so why not do it?

Why do we prefer to live in an economic jungle instead of a 'well regulated' economic garden?

Which would you rather leave to your kids and grand kids?

At the Vatican, Sanders Calls for a ‘Moral Economy’
During a speech this morning at the Vatican, Senator Bernie Sanders advocated for an end to income inequality in America, condemned Wall Street for contributing to that inequality, and called for “a truly moral economy.”...


Sanders was the only presidential candidate invited to a conference at the Vatican today, which was hosted by the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences. According to The New York Times, Bishop Marcelo Sánchez Sorondo, the academy’s chancellor, said Sanders was invited because he is “the candidate who cites the pope the most in his campaign.”

The conference marks the 25th anniversary of Pope John Paul II’s Centesimus Annus encyclical, which called for social and economic justice at the end of the Cold War. In that encyclical, the Pope spoke out against the “illicit exploitation, speculation, or the breaking of solidarity among working people” in pursuit of profit. That made the conference fertile ground for Sanders to discuss his core campaign issues, including income inequality and corporate greed.

But while Sanders is often challenged to explain the mechanics of his plans to decrease income inequality in the United States, the speech at the Vatican was a rare chance to lay out a purely moral argument for doing so.

“The issue of wealth and income inequality is the great economic issue of our time, the great political issue of our time, and the great moral issue of our time,” he said. “It is an issue that we must confront in my nation and across the world.”

Though Pope Francis wasn’t in attendance at the conference, Sanders invoked the Pope’s speeches and writings, showcasing the similarities between himself and Pope Francis.

“As Pope Francis has stated: ‘Man is not in charge today, money is in charge, money rules,'” Sanders said. “And the Pope has also stated: ‘We have created new idols. The worship of the golden calf of old has found a new and heartless image in the cult of money and the dictatorship of an economy which is faceless and lacking any truly humane goal.'”

He and francis are both immoral. Both are worthless human beings.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Capitalism and free markets are the moral economy...

Thanks !

The problem is our markets aren't that free and we have lots of crony capitalism.

And exponentially greater crony socialism/govt.