Bernie Sanders stands up for the 2nd Amendment

[Two Thumbs]

I agree with the base of Bernies argument , but no one can seem to explain this gun manufacture immunity thing.

there are thousands of deaths caused by people getting hit by autos.

Should we arrest auto makers, the dealers, the truck driver that delivered them?

Auto dealers are sued all the time because they fuck up. Take the classic exploding pinto .

========
Being sued for poor quality is 100% different than being sued for the actions of people who bought / used your product.

The manufacturers can control the quality of their product but they have no way whatsoever of controlling what you do with their product.

I would think a lawsuit like that would be tossed out of court pretty easy . The point is why do they get the special protection that no other industry gets.

they don't

you're lying

but you knew that as well

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I'll let Iran know.

People like TT live a reality-free life...

iran isn't an American citizen

another idiotic, baseless stance


damn you leftist are fucking dumb

Nukes for people but not countries. Got it.

And yet you still wonder why people treat you as utterly useless, and a moron...

I'll repeat for the slow and thought impaired;

Iran can't just come and buy nukes whenever they want b/c they are not citizens.

the country can ask to buy some from us, but I doubt we'd do it.


I know you don't understand, you're a leftist and if you understood the Constitution you wouldn't be a leftist.

The county can build them if they wish, that is what nations do. You, cannot.

I can't, but there are people that can.

not that that has dick to do with the Constitution and the fact you hate it

Hate it? My kind wrote it, and granted you your rights, dumbass.

 

[Two Thumbs]

iran isn't an American citizen

another idiotic, baseless stance


damn you leftist are fucking dumb

Nukes for people but not countries. Got it.

And yet you still wonder why people treat you as utterly useless, and a moron...

I'll repeat for the slow and thought impaired;

Iran can't just come and buy nukes whenever they want b/c they are not citizens.

the country can ask to buy some from us, but I doubt we'd do it.


I know you don't understand, you're a leftist and if you understood the Constitution you wouldn't be a leftist.

The county can build them if they wish, that is what nations do. You, cannot.

I can't, but there are people that can.

not that that has dick to do with the Constitution and the fact you hate it

Hate it? My kind wrote it, and granted you your rights, dumbass.

you're a leftist not a liberal and you have no connection to it at all.

The Founders you claim to be a part of would have hung you for treason.

 

[Preacher]

Sanders believes in gun regulations but not those that cross the line that infringes on the 2nd amendment. Rural Republicans in Vermont know he will stand up for their constitutional rights and have been voting for "commie" Sanders for years.

Sanders and Clinton Disagree on How to Solve America’s Gun Crisis

ALL regulations infringe on our 2nd amendment rights. If its not IN the constitution when it was written then its infringing on it.

 

[Manchester]

I agree with the base of Bernies argument , but no one can seem to explain this gun manufacture immunity thing.

there are thousands of deaths caused by people getting hit by autos.

Should we arrest auto makers, the dealers, the truck driver that delivered them?

Why is EVERYTHING so apparent to you and yet you can't see that autos have a serious use that they are put to every day transporting people and things faster and further than they could ever go on foot where as guns are ONLY made for killing people? Why do you call everyone a moron and then display your own crushingly wilfull ignorance?

b/c guns are just made to kill people

fucking moron

Oh yeah, Cruz showed us you can cook fucking bacon with one as well. What the fuck else are they for? And don't give me some target shooting joke.

 

[Two Thumbs]

I agree with the base of Bernies argument , but no one can seem to explain this gun manufacture immunity thing.

there are thousands of deaths caused by people getting hit by autos.

Should we arrest auto makers, the dealers, the truck driver that delivered them?

Why is EVERYTHING so apparent to you and yet you can't see that autos have a serious use that they are put to every day transporting people and things faster and further than they could ever go on foot where as guns are ONLY made for killing people? Why do you call everyone a moron and then display your own crushingly wilfull ignorance?

b/c guns are just made to kill people

fucking moron

Oh yeah, Cruz showed us you can cook fucking bacon with one as well. What the fuck else are they for? And don't give me some target shooting joke.

well you can hunt. ever heard of doing that?
No? what's it like living under a rock?

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Co-author of the Second Amendment
during Virginia's Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788

"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves …"
Richard Henry Lee
writing in Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republic, Letter XVIII, May, 1788.

"The people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full posession of them."
Zachariah Johnson
Elliot's Debates, vol. 3 "The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution."

"… the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms"
Philadelphia Federal Gazette
June 18, 1789, Pg. 2, Col. 2
Article on the Bill of Rights

"And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the Press, or the rights of Conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; …"
Samuel Adams
quoted in the Philadelphia Independent Gazetteer, August 20, 1789, "Propositions submitted to the Convention of this State"


The Founding Fathers on Arms
"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
George Washington
First President of the United States

"The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand arms, like laws, discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as property. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside … Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them."
Thomas Paine

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
Richard Henry Lee
American Statesman, 1788

"The great object is that every man be armed." and "Everyone who is able may have a gun."
Patrick Henry
American Patriot

"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?"
Patrick Henry
American Patriot

"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Thomas Jefferson
Third President of the United States

"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that … it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; … "
Thomas Jefferson
letter to Justice John Cartwright, June 5, 1824. ME 16:45.

"The best we can help for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."
Alexander Hamilton
The Federalist Papers at 184-8

The Founding Fathers on Maintaining Freedom
"The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution."
Thomas Jefferson
Third President of the United States

"There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters. "
Noah Webster
American Lexicographer

"The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion."
Edmund Burke
British Statesman, 1784

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
Thomas Jefferson
to James Madison

"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben Franklin
American Statesman

Later Quotes on Gun Control
"The ruling class doesn't care about public safety. Having made it very difficult for States and localities to police themselves, having left ordinary citizens with no choice but to protect themselves as best they can, they now try to take our guns away. In fact they blame us and our guns for crime. This is so wrong that it cannot be an honest mistake."
Malcolm Wallop
former U.S. Sen. (R-WY)

 

[PredFan]

I trust democrats about as far as I could comfortably spit out a rat.

Not impressed.

 

[Manchester]

I agree with the base of Bernies argument , but no one can seem to explain this gun manufacture immunity thing.

there are thousands of deaths caused by people getting hit by autos.

Should we arrest auto makers, the dealers, the truck driver that delivered them?

Why is EVERYTHING so apparent to you and yet you can't see that autos have a serious use that they are put to every day transporting people and things faster and further than they could ever go on foot where as guns are ONLY made for killing people? Why do you call everyone a moron and then display your own crushingly wilfull ignorance?

b/c guns are just made to kill people

fucking moron

Oh yeah, Cruz showed us you can cook fucking bacon with one as well. What the fuck else are they for? And don't give me some target shooting joke.

well you can hunt. ever heard of doing that?
No? what's it like living under a rock?

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Co-author of the Second Amendment
during Virginia's Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788

"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves …"
Richard Henry Lee
writing in Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republic, Letter XVIII, May, 1788.

"The people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full posession of them."
Zachariah Johnson
Elliot's Debates, vol. 3 "The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution."

"… the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms"
Philadelphia Federal Gazette
June 18, 1789, Pg. 2, Col. 2
Article on the Bill of Rights

"And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the Press, or the rights of Conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; …"
Samuel Adams
quoted in the Philadelphia Independent Gazetteer, August 20, 1789, "Propositions submitted to the Convention of this State"


The Founding Fathers on Arms
"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
George Washington
First President of the United States

"The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand arms, like laws, discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as property. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside … Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them."
Thomas Paine

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
Richard Henry Lee
American Statesman, 1788

"The great object is that every man be armed." and "Everyone who is able may have a gun."
Patrick Henry
American Patriot

"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?"
Patrick Henry
American Patriot

"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Thomas Jefferson
Third President of the United States

"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that … it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; … "
Thomas Jefferson
letter to Justice John Cartwright, June 5, 1824. ME 16:45.

"The best we can help for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."
Alexander Hamilton
The Federalist Papers at 184-8

The Founding Fathers on Maintaining Freedom
"The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution."
Thomas Jefferson
Third President of the United States

"There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters. "
Noah Webster
American Lexicographer

"The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion."
Edmund Burke
British Statesman, 1784

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
Thomas Jefferson
to James Madison

"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben Franklin
American Statesman

Later Quotes on Gun Control
"The ruling class doesn't care about public safety. Having made it very difficult for States and localities to police themselves, having left ordinary citizens with no choice but to protect themselves as best they can, they now try to take our guns away. In fact they blame us and our guns for crime. This is so wrong that it cannot be an honest mistake."
Malcolm Wallop
former U.S. Sen. (R-WY)

All outdated rubbish, you may as well argue the trade deficit referencing the gold standard. And the only reason you would hunt when there is meat in the shops is the same reason as you owning a gun in the first place, because you enjoy it.

Owning a gun isn't some fucking higher calling, it's not you keeping your government honest and holding it to account: It's because you like guns. And all of the bleating about why should I give up my gun I'm responsible / It's my duty to keep tyranny at bay / I defend my family yada yada yada is all starting with the conclusion and looking for reasons for it. You have a gun because you like it, you don't want to give it up and you're prepared to let roughly 100,000 people get shot each year in order to keep it. Just admit it to yourself and stop this ceaseless pack of lies to yourself as much to everyone else.

 

[Two Thumbs]

there are thousands of deaths caused by people getting hit by autos.

Should we arrest auto makers, the dealers, the truck driver that delivered them?

Why is EVERYTHING so apparent to you and yet you can't see that autos have a serious use that they are put to every day transporting people and things faster and further than they could ever go on foot where as guns are ONLY made for killing people? Why do you call everyone a moron and then display your own crushingly wilfull ignorance?

b/c guns are just made to kill people

fucking moron

Oh yeah, Cruz showed us you can cook fucking bacon with one as well. What the fuck else are they for? And don't give me some target shooting joke.

well you can hunt. ever heard of doing that?
No? what's it like living under a rock?

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Co-author of the Second Amendment
during Virginia's Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788

"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves …"
Richard Henry Lee
writing in Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republic, Letter XVIII, May, 1788.

"The people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full posession of them."
Zachariah Johnson
Elliot's Debates, vol. 3 "The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution."

"… the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms"
Philadelphia Federal Gazette
June 18, 1789, Pg. 2, Col. 2
Article on the Bill of Rights

"And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the Press, or the rights of Conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; …"
Samuel Adams
quoted in the Philadelphia Independent Gazetteer, August 20, 1789, "Propositions submitted to the Convention of this State"


The Founding Fathers on Arms
"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
George Washington
First President of the United States

"The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand arms, like laws, discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as property. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside … Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them."
Thomas Paine

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
Richard Henry Lee
American Statesman, 1788

"The great object is that every man be armed." and "Everyone who is able may have a gun."
Patrick Henry
American Patriot

"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?"
Patrick Henry
American Patriot

"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Thomas Jefferson
Third President of the United States

"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that … it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; … "
Thomas Jefferson
letter to Justice John Cartwright, June 5, 1824. ME 16:45.

"The best we can help for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."
Alexander Hamilton
The Federalist Papers at 184-8

The Founding Fathers on Maintaining Freedom
"The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution."
Thomas Jefferson
Third President of the United States

"There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters. "
Noah Webster
American Lexicographer

"The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion."
Edmund Burke
British Statesman, 1784

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
Thomas Jefferson
to James Madison

"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben Franklin
American Statesman

Later Quotes on Gun Control
"The ruling class doesn't care about public safety. Having made it very difficult for States and localities to police themselves, having left ordinary citizens with no choice but to protect themselves as best they can, they now try to take our guns away. In fact they blame us and our guns for crime. This is so wrong that it cannot be an honest mistake."
Malcolm Wallop
former U.S. Sen. (R-WY)

All outdated rubbish, you may as well argue the trade deficit referencing the gold standard. And the only reason you would hunt when there is meat in the shops is the same reason as you owning a gun in the first place, because you enjoy it.

Owning a gun isn't some fucking higher calling, it's not you keeping your government honest and holding it to account: It's because you like guns. And all of the bleating about why should I give up my gun I'm responsible / It's my duty to keep tyranny at bay / I defend my family yada yada yada is all starting with the conclusion and looking for reasons for it. You have a gun because you like it, you don't want to give it up and you're prepared to let roughly 100,000 people get shot each year in order to keep it. Just admit it to yourself and stop this ceaseless pack of lies to yourself as much to everyone else.

that's all I needed to see

you are a useless waste of time to converse with, your hate for America was made clear in 3 words

 

[Manchester]

Why is EVERYTHING so apparent to you and yet you can't see that autos have a serious use that they are put to every day transporting people and things faster and further than they could ever go on foot where as guns are ONLY made for killing people? Why do you call everyone a moron and then display your own crushingly wilfull ignorance?

b/c guns are just made to kill people

fucking moron

Oh yeah, Cruz showed us you can cook fucking bacon with one as well. What the fuck else are they for? And don't give me some target shooting joke.

well you can hunt. ever heard of doing that?
No? what's it like living under a rock?

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Co-author of the Second Amendment
during Virginia's Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788

"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves …"
Richard Henry Lee
writing in Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republic, Letter XVIII, May, 1788.

"The people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full posession of them."
Zachariah Johnson
Elliot's Debates, vol. 3 "The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution."

"… the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms"
Philadelphia Federal Gazette
June 18, 1789, Pg. 2, Col. 2
Article on the Bill of Rights

"And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the Press, or the rights of Conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; …"
Samuel Adams
quoted in the Philadelphia Independent Gazetteer, August 20, 1789, "Propositions submitted to the Convention of this State"


The Founding Fathers on Arms
"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
George Washington
First President of the United States

"The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand arms, like laws, discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as property. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside … Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them."
Thomas Paine

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
Richard Henry Lee
American Statesman, 1788

"The great object is that every man be armed." and "Everyone who is able may have a gun."
Patrick Henry
American Patriot

"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?"
Patrick Henry
American Patriot

"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Thomas Jefferson
Third President of the United States

"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that … it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; … "
Thomas Jefferson
letter to Justice John Cartwright, June 5, 1824. ME 16:45.

"The best we can help for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."
Alexander Hamilton
The Federalist Papers at 184-8

The Founding Fathers on Maintaining Freedom
"The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution."
Thomas Jefferson
Third President of the United States

"There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters. "
Noah Webster
American Lexicographer

"The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion."
Edmund Burke
British Statesman, 1784

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
Thomas Jefferson
to James Madison

"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben Franklin
American Statesman

Later Quotes on Gun Control
"The ruling class doesn't care about public safety. Having made it very difficult for States and localities to police themselves, having left ordinary citizens with no choice but to protect themselves as best they can, they now try to take our guns away. In fact they blame us and our guns for crime. This is so wrong that it cannot be an honest mistake."
Malcolm Wallop
former U.S. Sen. (R-WY)

All outdated rubbish, you may as well argue the trade deficit referencing the gold standard. And the only reason you would hunt when there is meat in the shops is the same reason as you owning a gun in the first place, because you enjoy it.

Owning a gun isn't some fucking higher calling, it's not you keeping your government honest and holding it to account: It's because you like guns. And all of the bleating about why should I give up my gun I'm responsible / It's my duty to keep tyranny at bay / I defend my family yada yada yada is all starting with the conclusion and looking for reasons for it. You have a gun because you like it, you don't want to give it up and you're prepared to let roughly 100,000 people get shot each year in order to keep it. Just admit it to yourself and stop this ceaseless pack of lies to yourself as much to everyone else.

that's all I needed to see

you are a useless waste of time to converse with, your hate for America was made clear in 3 words

Ah the mantra of the right wing when defeated. "You hate America"

 

[oreo]

Sanders believes in gun regulations but not those that cross the line that infringes on the 2nd amendment. Rural Republicans in Vermont know he will stand up for their constitutional rights and have been voting for "commie" Sanders for years.

Sanders and Clinton Disagree on How to Solve America’s Gun Crisis

While he's standing up for the 2nd amendment--Donald Trump snaps off Sanders trigger finger he uses so much, in the 1st debate.

A vote for your nursing home candidate, Bernie Sanders is just another vote for Donald Trump. Sanders would get creamed in a national election. Just move the blue over to New Hampshire and Vermont and color the rest of this country RED.

Reagan v Mondale 1984