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So tell us the difference between Biden's documents and Trump's documents.Xiden didn't give anything up....someone he paid to clean out his office discovered the top secret documents and called the law....had someone not snitched, we wouldn't be having this discussion today
xiden stole his and hide them for over half a decadeSo tell us the difference between Biden's documents and Trump's documents.
xiden stole his and hide them for over half a decade
Wrong.
GW and Obama had EOs still in effect that automatically declassified documents when POTUS took them out of the White House. POTUS can declassify without asking anyone about it, he needs no one's approval.
Øbama had numerous classified documents after he left office stored in an unsecured warehouse. The Obama Foundation had to pay the Archive to remove them to a safe storage location.
other then the amount and xiden obvious lie that he was surprised there were classified documents in his office, in his garage and his study…the lies tend to show his intent to cover up because he knows what he did was illegalGraphics: How Biden's case differs from Trump's classified documents seized at Mar-a-Lago
Republicans decried a "two-tier" justice system despite significant differences between classified-document cases involving Trump and Biden.www.usatoday.com
it just further highlights how he thinks his rules are for other people not for himWhy the hell does Biden has a gas guzzling V-8?
That hypocrite should immediately sell that carbon burner and get a Prius.
I quote above douche simply to make point, he has no idea what he is talking about, its not necessary that Trump "prove" anything, he was the president of the United States, this is irrefutable, there is no higher authority in the classification game, period! Biden was NOT president, he was the vice president, and his authority to declassify whilst VP doesn't exist, this is also irrefutable.where is the proof that Trump declassified these documents. in hind site he may claim he declassify them but where is the proof . Why would he declassify these documents in his last days in office other than to take them home There were at least three Top Secret documents.
Three Federal Appeals court judges noted in a court ruling Sept. 21, 2022, there was no evidence that any of these documents were ever declassified.
in a Fox News interview with Sean Hannity , Trump said it didn't matter that there was no formal record of him having declassified the documents when he was still in office. "If you're the president of the United States you can declassify just by saying 'It's declassified.' Even by thinking about it," Trump said.
Well he pretty much admitted that he did not tell anyone to declassify these documents. It was just a thought in his head. A convenient excuse when caught with the goods. Yet how is anyone else suppose to know if the documents are declassified unless the tells them using a memorandum which is proof.
Well ;you didn't comment on that the documents are still government documents and thus Trump has no right to take them home. They belong to the government and are suppose to be turn over to the National Archives and they had asked for them but he refused to release them. yeah if he did claims to declassify them after being told to turn them over then that is clearly a problem
Top Secret documents
2020 federal appeals court decision, in which the judges noted that "declassification, even by the President, must follow established procedures." the normal practice seems to be that the president records the declassification decision in an official memorandum. This the accepted way to do it.
Trump does not think things thru, he just makes assumptions.
You might be referring to information that originates from the incumbent President for declassification which just means there is no review of this info before being declassified if they want to declassify. Its a limit exception and would not apply in this case with top secret information and the other two as they originate from other government sources who wish to classify the information.
So trump might have a case for stuff that he said and did while in office but that with the classification. He still would have to turn it over when he left.
But hey with Biden he does have the same ability to view security documents while VP as the current President.
Still it does not apply to what was found in Trumps possession . If he initiated it then yeah he has a better case. But Top secret stuff does not original from the Presidents office. Yeah I am sure he would love to declare it top secret.
The EO also states
Sec. 1.7. Classification Prohibitions and Limitations.
(a) In no case shall information be classified, continue to be maintained as classified, or fail to be declassified in order to:
(1) conceal violations of law, inefficiency, or administrative error;
(2) prevent embarrassment to a person, organization, or agency;
You're kidding, right?I'll present the unspeakable before leaving the discussion:
Was Biden subpoenaed and presented with a search warrant before surrendering 'his' stolen documents?
Or is Biden pretending to give his documents up willingly?
www.usmessageboard.com
Sec. 1.3. Classification Authority. (a) The authority to classify information originally may be exercised only by:POTUS is classification, he can classify or declassify whatever he wants.
VPOTUS has no declassification authority.
Americans always have struck me as people who wish fairness for all.Yeah, I haven't seen any msm coverage of FBI swat raids on Biden's home. Hypocrisy is rampant in the US government during the past seven years. First Hilarity and her insecure emails and now Biden.
I agree 100% with everything in your post.Americans always have struck me as people who wish fairness for all.
Of course today we hear that everybody and everything is racist but I see that as just Democratic propaganda. I still believe Americans want fairness for all. Obama was elected twice to be President. That would never happen in a truly racist nation.
That’s why I have a hard time figuring out why people today are not more upset at how differently Trump and Biden are treated.
Perhaps once again the propaganda from the liberal media that keeps saying how terrible Trump is still works. Perhaps they lack the ability to question why if Trump is so bad why can’t all the prosecutors find something to change him with or how Joe Biden got so damn rich on a Senators’s salary.
Wrong the EO does not automatically declassify documents when POTUS takes them out of the White House. That makes no sense whatsoever. The president has to send a memo to the originating entity that initiated the classification as stated in the EO. If the white house did the classification in the first place then yes they can declassify on their own initiative. Otherwise the initiating entity must be notified. They can agree or disagree. The white house can declassify there own documents if they are the ones who placed the original classification. This is not the case as the classified documents are originated by another entity and not the president. The EO clearly states that the president must sent a memorandum to the originating agency that he wants to declassify. They have an opportunity to disagree and present there reasons.Wrong.
GW and Obama had EOs still in effect that automatically declassified documents when POTUS took them out of the White House. POTUS can declassify without asking anyone about it, he needs no one's approval.
Øbama had numerous classified documents after he left office stored in an unsecured warehouse. The Obama Foundation had to pay the Archive to remove them to a safe storage location.
So tell us the difference between Biden's documents and Trump's documents.
