Big boy Ted

[TNHarley]

Consider he voted yes to give the president fast track trade authority, supports the corporate whore TPP, didn't even bother showing up to vote on auditing the FED despite his MASSIVE rhetoric and he tried his best to work for Bush. Why would an "anti-establishment" person try to boost their career working for them?(I only said that because apparently people cant change)
Just something to think about..

 

[TNHarley]

Maybe you guys should consider that when you say conservatives are throwing away their beliefs for trump.

 

[g5000]

If the TPP was not fast-tracked, it would never pass. Simple as that. It would be hostage to a handful of heavily bribed Congressmen.

 

[TNHarley]

If the TPP was not fast-tracked, it would never pass. Simple as that. It would be hostage to a handful of heavily bribed Congressmen.

so one person having that power is better? Hell, NOT having the TPP sounds good to me.
The TPP establishes environmental and labor regulations for other countries, The Economic Policy Institute estimates that under the TPP we stand to lose more than 130,000 jobs to Vietnam and Japan alone, with American workers having to compete with their counterparts in Vietnam, where the minimum wage is just 56 cents an hour, it threatens internet freedoms, collective bargaining rights, how many corporations had a seta at the negotiation table?, deregulation and many others.
Perot was right about NAFTA and many people will be right about this abomination.
But hey, the good news is we will have to have higher artificial wages! lol

 

[jasonnfree]

If the TPP was not fast-tracked, it would never pass. Simple as that. It would be hostage to a handful of heavily bribed Congressmen.

so one person having that power is better? Hell, NOT having the TPP sounds good to me.
The TPP establishes environmental and labor regulations for other countries, The Economic Policy Institute estimates that under the TPP we stand to lose more than 130,000 jobs to Vietnam and Japan alone, with American workers having to compete with their counterparts in Vietnam, where the minimum wage is just 56 cents an hour, it threatens internet freedoms, collective bargaining rights, how many corporations had a seta at the negotiation table?, deregulation and many others.
Perot was right about NAFTA and many people will be right about this abomination.
But hey, the good news is we will have to have higher artificial wages! lol

The fact that the TPP has been kept pretty much top secret to where even congress can't investigate it or debate it, should be enough to be against it.

 

[TNHarley]

If the TPP was not fast-tracked, it would never pass. Simple as that. It would be hostage to a handful of heavily bribed Congressmen.

so one person having that power is better? Hell, NOT having the TPP sounds good to me.
The TPP establishes environmental and labor regulations for other countries, The Economic Policy Institute estimates that under the TPP we stand to lose more than 130,000 jobs to Vietnam and Japan alone, with American workers having to compete with their counterparts in Vietnam, where the minimum wage is just 56 cents an hour, it threatens internet freedoms, collective bargaining rights, how many corporations had a seta at the negotiation table?, deregulation and many others.
Perot was right about NAFTA and many people will be right about this abomination.
But hey, the good news is we will have to have higher artificial wages! lol

The fact that the TPP has been kept pretty much top secret to where even congress can't investigate it or debate it, should be enough to be against it.

like ACA? lol
Yea, that should be enough.. Not to mention the amount of lobbyists and corporations at the negotiation table.. Kinda fuckin obvious lol

 

[TNHarley]

Grampa Murked U Weatherman2020

 

[Weatherman2020]

Doesn't mean Republicans should elect Obama II.

 

[TNHarley]

Doesn't mean Republicans should elect Obama II.

Well no. lol but that's not my point.
Basically, if you say all that crap about trump, and talk good about Cruz, you are just pissing in the wind. Im not saying you are wanting cruz, im JS. lol
I just wanted your insight bro..

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Grampa Murked U Weatherman2020

Is this your strategy?

If you're supporting Trump surely he has some substantive things you can stand on. Pointing out a couple flaws in one candidate does not make another qualified.

Bottom line is with Trump all you have is his word that he is no longer a democrat. I don't believe him. In fact I don't believe he has ANY core values that are principled stands. None

If you want to build Trump let's see you do it without blaming someone else. I stand ONE HUNDRED PERCENT behind my thread.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Maybe you guys should consider that when you say conservatives are throwing away their beliefs for trump.

Trump stands for nothing but Trump. Cruz may have a couple questionable votes along the way but name one politician that doesn't. We have the choices we have, pretending they are something they CLEARLY aren't doesn't change anything.

Trump is fooling a lot of people and after our experience with Obama I am flabbergasted that anyone would even give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[TNHarley]

Grampa Murked U Weatherman2020

Is this your strategy?

If you're supporting Trump surely he has some substantive things you can stand on. Pointing out a couple flaws in one candidate does not make another qualified.

Bottom line is with Trump all you have is his word that he is no longer a democrat. I don't believe him. In fact I don't believe he has ANY core values that are principled stands. None

If you want to build Trump let's see you do it without blaming someone else. I stand ONE HUNDRED PERCENT behind my thread.

I am voting for paul in the primaries.
You said cruz was a good conservative. What about this? Do you think these things follow the "conservative" brand?
Also, D or R mean nothing to me.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Doesn't mean Republicans should elect Obama II.

Well no. lol but that's not my point.
Basically, if you say all that crap about trump, and talk good about Cruz, you are just pissing in the wind. Im not saying you are wanting cruz, im JS. lol
I just wanted your insight bro..

Never even hinted there is a perfect candidate out there. Never was, never will be. People are people. Just saying we don't need another left wing big government egomanic who pisses on the separation of powers in office again.

 

[TNHarley]

Maybe you guys should consider that when you say conservatives are throwing away their beliefs for trump.

Trump stands for nothing but Trump. Cruz may have a couple questionable votes along the way but name one politician that doesn't. We have the choices we have, pretending they are something they CLEARLY aren't doesn't change anything.

Trump is fooling a lot of people and after our experience with Obama I am flabbergasted that anyone would even give him the benefit of the doubt.

"name one politician that doesn't"
HMMMM
If you take away Trump's half dozen hot topic talking points what's left?
If you remove teds anti establishment and FED rhetoric, whats left? crony capitalism?
I have already shown you teds integrity means nothing. With trump it is just "what if"

 

[jillian]

If the TPP was not fast-tracked, it would never pass. Simple as that. It would be hostage to a handful of heavily bribed Congressmen.

so one person having that power is better? Hell, NOT having the TPP sounds good to me.
The TPP establishes environmental and labor regulations for other countries, The Economic Policy Institute estimates that under the TPP we stand to lose more than 130,000 jobs to Vietnam and Japan alone, with American workers having to compete with their counterparts in Vietnam, where the minimum wage is just 56 cents an hour, it threatens internet freedoms, collective bargaining rights, how many corporations had a seta at the negotiation table?, deregulation and many others.
Perot was right about NAFTA and many people will be right about this abomination.
But hey, the good news is we will have to have higher artificial wages! lol

i'm impressed. you sound like a liberal.

 

[jillian]

Doesn't mean Republicans should elect Obama II.

Well no. lol but that's not my point.
Basically, if you say all that crap about trump, and talk good about Cruz, you are just pissing in the wind. Im not saying you are wanting cruz, im JS. lol
I just wanted your insight bro..

Never even hinted there is a perfect candidate out there. Never was, never will be. People are people. Just saying we don't need another left wing big government egomanic who pisses on the separation of powers in office again.

yah... you hate the gubmint except when it imposes Christian dogma on the rest of us.

 

[TNHarley]

If the TPP was not fast-tracked, it would never pass. Simple as that. It would be hostage to a handful of heavily bribed Congressmen.

so one person having that power is better? Hell, NOT having the TPP sounds good to me.
The TPP establishes environmental and labor regulations for other countries, The Economic Policy Institute estimates that under the TPP we stand to lose more than 130,000 jobs to Vietnam and Japan alone, with American workers having to compete with their counterparts in Vietnam, where the minimum wage is just 56 cents an hour, it threatens internet freedoms, collective bargaining rights, how many corporations had a seta at the negotiation table?, deregulation and many others.
Perot was right about NAFTA and many people will be right about this abomination.
But hey, the good news is we will have to have higher artificial wages! lol

i'm impressed. you sound like a liberal.

A REAL liberal, and not the Marxist version so many people brand themselves with, yes.
Besides that, you "liberals" like higher artificial wages, remember? Its the band aid you guys put forth from the terrible economic decisions the duopoly has made..

 

[jillian]

If the TPP was not fast-tracked, it would never pass. Simple as that. It would be hostage to a handful of heavily bribed Congressmen.

so one person having that power is better? Hell, NOT having the TPP sounds good to me.
The TPP establishes environmental and labor regulations for other countries, The Economic Policy Institute estimates that under the TPP we stand to lose more than 130,000 jobs to Vietnam and Japan alone, with American workers having to compete with their counterparts in Vietnam, where the minimum wage is just 56 cents an hour, it threatens internet freedoms, collective bargaining rights, how many corporations had a seta at the negotiation table?, deregulation and many others.
Perot was right about NAFTA and many people will be right about this abomination.
But hey, the good news is we will have to have higher artificial wages! lol

i'm impressed. you sound like a liberal.

A REAL liberal, and not the Marxist version so many people brand themselves with, yes.
Besides that, you "liberals" like higher artificial wages, remember? Its the band aid you guys put forth from the terrible economic decisions the duopoly has made..

I wouldn't know... i'm not a Marxist. or a socialist for that matter.

ftr, I wouldn't have supported TPP. but no one asked me.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Maybe you guys should consider that when you say conservatives are throwing away their beliefs for trump.

Trump stands for nothing but Trump. Cruz may have a couple questionable votes along the way but name one politician that doesn't. We have the choices we have, pretending they are something they CLEARLY aren't doesn't change anything.

Trump is fooling a lot of people and after our experience with Obama I am flabbergasted that anyone would even give him the benefit of the doubt.

"name one politician that doesn't"
HMMMM
If you take away Trump's half dozen hot topic talking points what's left?
If you remove teds anti establishment and FED rhetoric, whats left? crony capitalism?

I'll take someone who believes in Christian values, thinks he/she is accountable to a much higher authority, and can ask his staff that it's SECOND Corinthians, not TWO Corinthians.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Doesn't mean Republicans should elect Obama II.

Well no. lol but that's not my point.
Basically, if you say all that crap about trump, and talk good about Cruz, you are just pissing in the wind. Im not saying you are wanting cruz, im JS. lol
I just wanted your insight bro..

Never even hinted there is a perfect candidate out there. Never was, never will be. People are people. Just saying we don't need another left wing big government egomanic who pisses on the separation of powers in office again.

yah... you hate the gubmint except when it imposes Christian dogma on the rest of us.

Yes, I prefer a government that lives by Love your neighbor as yourself. Is your hatred of your fellow man so deep this disgusts you?