Big win for Civil Rights...and from left wing 9th Circuit Court of Appeals no less....

[daws101]

Freedom of choice the freedom that all other freedom is based on.
That's why.

I have two main problems with abortion.

1. How can it be murder if I kill a woman's fetus at X months old, but if she kills the same fetus at the same age it's choice? This isn't logical because the entire pro abortion movement is based on the belief that before Y a fetus isn't a human, and as we discussed earlier murder is the illegal killing of a human being, well if in the case of abortion you can declare that a fetus under X is NOT a human then later on you can't just change your mind and say "okay in this case it IS a human , so we're charging murder" laws are supposed to be consistent.

Of course both sides just agreeing that at X a fetus becomes a baby would end that debate right there, but no one in any position of power wants to end debates, that would leave the rest of us time to investigate THEIR activities.

2. I think it's completely unfair that men are put in the position of not having ANY choice about whether they would like their fetus to grow up to be a baby, but on the other hand if they do NOT want a baby they also have no choice but to support said child should the mother decide to allow it to become a baby.

Notice that neither of my arguments stems from morality.

1. You stopped the life the woman wished to have.

2. It may seem unfair but until you carry the child in your womb an equal amount of time it really isnt unfair.

1. Oops you admit it is a life, therefor that life should have rights.

2. It certainly is unfair. No man alive who's ever had kids would believe otherwise. Oh his political persuasion might demand that he deny that, but no man think it's fair that he has no choice in whether he becomes a father or not.

1. Why do you say oops? I never said it wasnt a life. It just doesnt have any rights since its literally living off of someone elses body.

2. I have 4 kids and I am under no illusions about fairness. Since I am not carrying the child I really dont have a say until the child is born.

1. If it's a human life it should of course have rights. Or are you suggesting that welfare recipients should have no rights since they live off of someone else?

2. The law is supposed to blind and fair. ALWAYS

Should and supposed both are subjective .

 

[Uncensored2008]

False! I'm stating fact .
murder is murder legal or moral
sometimes it's necessary.
end of story.

You're stating a falsehood, and a really stupid one.

But, you're really stupid so it fits.

"Murder" is a legal term, the unlawful killing of a human.

Abortion is legal, you fucking retard, ergo it is not murder.

{ the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought}
Definition of MURDER

 

[Uncensored2008]

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False comparison!

In what way, oh drooling derper?

 

[NYcarbineer]

That's the losing side of the argument.

Really?

Because you have no rational response? (not that you ever do.)

I know it's the losing side because I've won that argument a million times.

 

[daws101]

Early term abortion is as much a constitutional right as is owning a gun, your monkey jabber notwithstanding.

Your right, thats where sad, cause killing a baby should b a right as long as one feels like it.

Yes it should, your retarded rhetoric notwithstanding.

I'm not as nearly as smart as all u college educated folk, that's a fact, but explain to me why abortion should remain a right.

Freedom of choice the freedom that all other freedom is based on.
That's why.

I have two main problems with abortion.

1. How can it be murder if I kill a woman's fetus at X months old, but if she kills the same fetus at the same age it's choice? This isn't logical because the entire pro abortion movement is based on the belief that before Y a fetus isn't a human, and as we discussed earlier murder is the illegal killing of a human being, well if in the case of abortion you can declare that a fetus under X is NOT a human then later on you can't just change your mind and say "okay in this case it IS a human , so we're charging murder" laws are supposed to be consistent.

Of course both sides just agreeing that at X a fetus becomes a baby would end that debate right there, but no one in any position of power wants to end debates, that would leave the rest of us time to investigate THEIR activities.

2. I think it's completely unfair that men are put in the position of not having ANY choice about whether they would like their fetus to grow up to be a baby, but on the other hand if they do NOT want a baby they also have no choice but to support said child should the mother decide to allow it to become a baby.

Notice that neither of my arguments stems from morality.

They both do.

 

[daws101]

Your right, thats where sad, cause killing a baby should b a right as long as one feels like it.

could you make any less sense?

This is what happens when pregnant women use meth too frequently.

R u acting out again, poor nigga. Find ur daddy if it's possible n forgive him for never loving u. Its got to really fuck with u knowing how many men ur momma was fucking n she never had the decency to tell u Which one was daddy. Damn shame, Keep ur head up brotha.

Seems you never graduated grade school either.

Ninth grade education. My father was killed, my mother n I were forced to move back to the reservation. I got a job n the oilfeild, worked my way up n now make well over six digits a year. Just bought my mom a brand new house, pretty good for a month grade education eh.

You are a lying sack of shit.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Yes it should, your retarded rhetoric notwithstanding.

I'm not as nearly as smart as all u college educated folk, that's a fact, but explain to me why abortion should remain a right.

Because its their body for starters. Do you think you have a right to have cancer cut from your body?

The body of the baby is not their body......cancer actually is their body and cancer is not a human being...twit.

That's the losing side of the argument.

Yes....and so was the humanity of the Jews in socialist Germany......

The Nazis were anti-abortion.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I know it's the losing side because I've won that argument a million times.

Holding your breath is not "winning" sploogy.

 

[daws101]

Freedom of choice the freedom that all other freedom is based on.
That's why.

Especially the "right" to kill another, right duhs, you drooling fucking retard?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Freedom of choice the freedom that all other freedom is based on.
That's why.

Especially the "right" to kill another, right duhs, you drooling fucking retard?

Ah, so that is the soundtrack of all of the mental processes that occur in your empty skull!

 

[daws101]

False! I'm stating fact .
murder is murder legal or moral
sometimes it's necessary.
end of story.

You're stating a falsehood, and a really stupid one.

But, you're really stupid so it fits.

"Murder" is a legal term, the unlawful killing of a human.

Abortion is legal, you fucking retard, ergo it is not murder.

{ the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought}
Definition of MURDER

 

[Uncensored2008]

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The Nazis were anti-abortion.

Oooh, lying.

How clever.

 

[daws101]

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The Nazis were anti-abortion.

Oooh, lying.

How clever.

Abortion and Nazism - RationalWiki.
Phase one of tantrum is underway.

 

[Uncensored2008]

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The Nazis were anti-abortion.

Oooh, lying.

How clever.

Abortion and Nazism - RationalWiki.
Phase one of tantrum is underway.

Jews
Poles
Gypsies
Slavics

All subject to forced abortion as part of the Sanger eugenics program.

You scum are so cute when you lie through your fucking teeth.

 

[Liberty777]

There is a life at the moment of conception. No timeframe or law changes the fact u r murdering a baby.

If that were true why dont they imprison moms that have abortions like Trump wants to do?

Are cells not life?

 

[daws101]

[

The Nazis were anti-abortion.

Oooh, lying.

How clever.

Abortion and Nazism - RationalWiki.
Phase one of tantrum is underway.

Jews
Poles
Gypsies
Slavics

All subject to forced abortion as part of the Sanger eugenics program.

You scum are so cute when you lie through your fucking teeth.

They didn't count.
False context much.

 

[daws101]

There is a life at the moment of conception. No timeframe or law changes the fact u r murdering a baby.

If that were true why dont they imprison moms that have abortions like Trump wants to do?

Are cells not life?

All cells are life .
Your point?

 

[Uncensored2008]

They didn't count.

I know that's your position.

False context much.

Get caught lying much?

 

[Liberty777]

could you make any less sense?

This is what happens when pregnant women use meth too frequently.

R u acting out again, poor nigga. Find ur daddy if it's possible n forgive him for never loving u. Its got to really fuck with u knowing how many men ur momma was fucking n she never had the decency to tell u Which one was daddy. Damn shame, Keep ur head up brotha.

Seems you never graduated grade school either.

Ninth grade education. My father was killed, my mother n I were forced to move back to the reservation. I got a job n the oilfeild, worked my way up n now make well over six digits a year. Just bought my mom a brand new house, pretty good for a month grade education eh.

You are a lying sack of shit.

Now my feelings are hurt. I know it hurts u spent all that money on a college degree n a dumbass like me is more successful. If u apologize I 'll think bout getting u a job as a gopher as soon as these oil prices go back up

 

[Liberty777]

There is a life at the moment of conception. No timeframe or law changes the fact u r murdering a baby.

If that were true why dont they imprison moms that have abortions like Trump wants to do?

Are cells not life?

All cells are life .
Your point?

Good, u agree it's murder to take an innocent life for no reason