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No I get that (I think OKTexas was pointing it out too), but my question was more around exploring the idea that Christians (in my view) tend to fixate on not wanting to participate in anything that has to do with gay marriage/gay lifestyle (and will go to the length to maybe turn down a wedding photography job, or cake job), but are fine allowing themselves to participate in a wedding where a man and woman are remarrying for the 2 and 3 times (respectively).
Maybe it does happen and people refuse to participate in remarriages under religious grounds and it simply doesn't get covered in the news. However, in my view, it seems the gay lifestyle (and all the sins that come with it) tends to get the most notice - why?
This is probably more of a religious question than anything; I'm fine with businesses refusing service - to be honest - from a legal standpoint.
I dont think that second and third weddings are a sin tbh. OK pointed that out btw.
Can you think of another sin that religious people are asked to directly participate in but have not fought against it?
The only other one that I can think of is abortion and they HAVE been railing against that as well.
But divorce - FA_Q2 - that is a sin. You can remarry if your significant other passes away, but if you divorce and do not annul I believe that to remarry is a major sin. Is that not right?
And I don't know, maybe Christians are refusing these types of people services and my assumptions are wrong - I don't know. Just sorta throwing some questions out there..
You need to prove that they were motivated by hate, you have made the charge.
A thing is not hate just because YOU don't like it.
You see the Left ALWAYS thinks that they can marginalize dissent by labeling it something....that only works on you low information voters.
How does one person's statement reflect what millions may think?
Hate, disassociation, repugnance, call it what you want. But if you don't like something then you hate it. Christians are taught to love the sinner but hate the sin.
And leftist twerps teach that if you don't applaud the sin, you obviously hate the sinner. Which may be why no one whatsoever is looking to you fools for religious wisdom.
You can exercise your right to worship at any church of your choosing. It does NOT mean you can use it as a weapon against fellow citizens.
You people are truly sub human cretins.
If the Constitution is only defending "the right to worship in church", how comes it doesn't say that, and instead says, "free exercise" of religion? It's almost like the Founding Fathers thought there was more to exercising one's religion than just sitting in a pew, huh?
By the way, Mr. "Weapon against fellow citizens", please don't think I didn't notice how you utterly ran away from answering my question as to whether or not my revulsion toward you is somehow "harming" you. I can only assume it was because any attempt to answer that would have shown you for the ignorant butt-nugget you are, and would have prevented you from trotting out this exciting and amusing new trope.
So when I tell you that I'd rather die than spend ten minutes in the same room with you, you actually consider that the same thing as pointing a gun or brandishing a knife at you? Really? I'd say I'm flattered, except that would imply that you're not utterly insane.
You are as far from any Christian teaching I ever learned, and you are created in the very image of Satin.
You are mentally and emotionally devoid of what sets humans apart from animals. I would not wish to spend a second with dirt like you, so your insults actually warm my heart. You are repulsive, ignorant and an asshole to boot.
moonglow, do you hate christians?
no. I was raised as one. I also know the bible like the back of me hand. Was in choir for many years as my grandmother was the music director for 55 years and a theologian.i was taught what true love of god was and how to be a nice person to all peoples on the earth.
if you think christianity is all about being nice and tolerating anything people choose to do so they won't feel offended, then you don't know anything about the bible, and someone ought to go back in time and slap the snot out of your grandmother.
Please tell me what part of Cecilie1200's declaration you disagree with?
America was founded on the tenets of the Declaration of Independence. Now we have the Declaration of Discrimination.
Dude do you have ANY idea how easy it is to yank your chain and make you dance?
But hey YOU have declared not selling a cake to someone is a "weapon".....
YOU have declared that you support ONLY enforcing the parts of the Bill of Rights and Constitution that YOU agree with.
YOU have declared that "freedom" is a zero sum game....and that the ONLY way to "increase" someone's "freedom" is to "restrict" someone else's....
YOU have asserted the same totalitarian approach to things that ALL Lefty's do.....silencing and shutting down all dissent.
Never mind that there is NO logic at all to any of your positions....you believe them therefore they are "right"
You know full well that they were "free" to choose another bakery but they wanted to get their 15 minutes of fame.
I completely understand your position now, thanks to Cecilie1200's honest and succinct statement:
Cecilie1200 said:No, we're defending THE RIGHT to discriminate.
And take solace, America has seen your ilk before in our history.
And back then, your ilk said those '*******' are "free" to choose another bakery.
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Hey, I found a picture of Antares, Cecilie and OKTexas
Still running like a little girl from my questions in post #135, you want to tell the class why?
no. I was raised as one. I also know the bible like the back of me hand. Was in choir for many years as my grandmother was the music director for 55 years and a theologian.i was taught what true love of god was and how to be a nice person to all peoples on the earth.
if you think christianity is all about being nice and tolerating anything people choose to do so they won't feel offended, then you don't know anything about the bible, and someone ought to go back in time and slap the snot out of your grandmother.
gfy
Please tell me what part of Cecilie1200's declaration you disagree with?
America was founded on the tenets of the Declaration of Independence. Now we have the Declaration of Discrimination.
There has always been a declaration of discrimination against human BEHAVIORS. Race is a completely different issue than the cult of LGBT. Learn the difference. To allow a precedent for behaviors to enjoy special protection would upset all local penal and civil codes that are set by the People in discreet communities to regulate and govern themselves and what people are allowed to DO, as opposed to race.
What LGBTs are really asking for is official sanction on rainbow fascism.
@ Moonglow
You worship a false jesus.
I completely understand your position now, thanks to Cecilie1200's honest and succinct statement:
And take solace, America has seen your ilk before in our history.
And back then, your ilk said those '*******' are "free" to choose another bakery.
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Hey, I found a picture of Antares, Cecilie and OKTexas
Still running like a little girl from my questions in post #135, you want to tell the class why?
I answered your question(s). It is the SAME as my reply to post 124.
People are basically able to discriminate, but it should not be sanctioned and codified by any law.
Who is this Satin character? The gay devil with his velvet horn?You are as far from any Christian teaching I ever learned, and you are created in the very image of Satin.
if you think christianity is all about being nice and tolerating anything people choose to do so they won't feel offended, then you don't know anything about the bible, and someone ought to go back in time and slap the snot out of your grandmother.
gfy
"Go Fuck Yourself" spoken just like your jesus would say it.
Your daddy would be proud.
The Good Word commands us to love each other, why do you forget that and only try to twist the debate to your corner? Name me one group I hate, when I clearly stated that if I ran a business I would sell to anyone that wants to buy my products or services.
First, take a look at who I was addressing and why.
Second I am not twisting anything....I am merely stating that because YOU do or do not do a thing in no way proves or disproves anything.
It is simply the way YOU do it, it in no way means that BECAUSE you do it it is the way a thing should be.
How many times did Christ deny his services because they were gay?
@ Moonglow
You worship a false jesus.
I don't worship any deities.
"Go Fuck Yourself" spoken just like your jesus would say it.
Your daddy would be proud.
I was a hell of a lot nicer than what my Dad would say.
First, take a look at who I was addressing and why.
Second I am not twisting anything....I am merely stating that because YOU do or do not do a thing in no way proves or disproves anything.
It is simply the way YOU do it, it in no way means that BECAUSE you do it it is the way a thing should be.
How many times did Christ deny his services because they were gay?
Anyone whose religious granny knew her Bible from her left asscheek would know what a ridiculous question this was, since homosexuals were routinely killed in Christ's day.
Also, I doubt He was asked to cater a lot of weddings, since He was a carpenter.
Still running like a little girl from my questions in post #135, you want to tell the class why?
I answered your question(s). It is the SAME as my reply to post 124.
People are basically able to discriminate, but it should not be sanctioned and codified by any law.
How about you address them one at a time like they were asked? Here they are again for your convenience.
What about the gay printer who is asked to print posters saying Gays are degenerates and unnatural pieces of shit. Should they be compelled to fill that order?
Or the black baker who is approached to bake a cake for the KKK with the confederate stars and bars and a burning cross. Can they legally discriminate?
Here's a good one, should a Jewish photographer be required to provide their service to a Nazi group wanting to reenact gassing people in Poland?
Tell me, where does the right of the public end when it comes to dictating if a business man has the freedom to pursue a living in a manner of his choice?
Once again it will be fun to see how you attempt to deflect and change the subject on this one.