"Black" Names

[harmonica]

Malik. LaShonda. Trayvon. LaToya. Names with mis-placed capital letters, and apostrophes.

Like McConnell? Or McDonald?

isn't Donovan McNabb Irish?

Scottish, laddie.

he's very Scottish, alright

 

[katsteve2012]

I have written in this space previously that much of Black "inequality" can be reasonably attributed to voluntary behaviors by individual Blacks - mainly bastardy, school drop-out tendency, and petty criminality - and I have recently come upon another one, also a total mystery to me.

It is "common knowledge" in the Black community that having a "Black" name can often lead to, for example, employment applications being discarded, and other similar forms of discrimination. Indeed, I have read some first-person accounts of white people having Black-sounding names (e.g., "Jamal") and experiencing such discrimination "unfairly"(?).

And yet, the trend toward bizarre Christian names among Blacks seems to be increasing as time goes by.

Malik. LaShonda. Trayvon. LaToya. Names with mis-placed capital letters, and apostrophes. I pity the inner-city Kindergarten teacher who must address these children in school for the first time, trying to figure out how to pronounce some of these bizarre names, and to do so without laughing. I have occasionally thought that mothers invent them in the hope that one day the child will be a mega-super-star of one form or another who can be known simply by that first name. Shaquille. OJ. Michael. Et cetera. (Oops. Has anybody used that one?)

But seriously, is this not an utterly stupid thing to do? Why would you - even potentially - saddle your kid with a name that will label him/her as Black, sight unseen, for the rest of his or her life, knowing that it is likely that the name will result in negative discrimination in at least some circumstances? You might as well put a tattoo on your child's forehead saying, "My Mother is an Idiot."

Were I a Black parent, I would go to the other extreme, naming my kid with the most Wasp-ish name I could imagine ("Chatsworth Osborne Smith"), in the hope that it might open a door somewhere in the future. If you want to CALL your kid something more creative, knock yourself out. But to put "D'boneHead" on a Birth Certificate is almost criminally stupid.

Here we have another white person trying to tell blacks what to do. First off, the root cause of the problems we face are rooted in racist beliefs and behavior of whites. Blacks don't need to name our kids as whites tell us to. Whites like the OP need to stop being racists.

Doesn't this thread sort of go against the prevailing belief of the majority of white posters here that there is ""Black Privilege"?

Afterall, none of these "noble, non racist" individuals here would discriminate against a black person who they think is black just based on their name, would they?

SMGDH

Discriminating against names doesnt come out of thin air. There is a reason people have trust issues with dudes named Malik. Is it fair? No, certainly not, but human beings are instinctually cautious, and when every mugger, car jacker, home invasion committing murderer has one of those names, it presents a pattern that one cannot ignore. People who give children these names have a long track record of terrible parenting. They frequently produce children who are problems. Its simply a fact.

That is a generalization. And quite an ignorant one.

 

[rightwinger]

So why are whites so intimidated by blacks choosing non traditional names?

That's a racist stereotype.

Blacks make up silly sounding names to make themselves stick out. Instead of being wallflowers they peacock.

Sounds right

They want their children to be unique rather than adopt vanilla names

 

[Meathead]

So why are whites so intimidated by blacks choosing non traditional names?

That's a racist stereotype.

Blacks make up silly sounding names to make themselves stick out. Instead of being wallflowers they peacock.

Sounds right

They want their children to be unique rather than adopt vanilla names

Well, it sure makes it easier to discern the race of thugs and thugettes from the news.

 

[harmonica]

So why are whites so intimidated by blacks choosing non traditional names?

That's a racist stereotype.

Blacks make up silly sounding names to make themselves stick out. Instead of being wallflowers they peacock.

Sounds right

They want their children to be unique rather than adopt vanilla names

.....they don't want to be like white people--who graduate and commit crimes at lower rates

 

[katsteve2012]

So why are whites so intimidated by blacks choosing non traditional names?

That's a racist stereotype.

Blacks make up silly sounding names to make themselves stick out. Instead of being wallflowers they peacock.

Sounds right

They want their children to be unique rather than adopt vanilla names

.....they don't want to be like white people--who graduate and commit crimes at lower rates

You're white, and I sure as hell, would not want to be "like you".

 

[mudwhistle]

So why are whites so intimidated by blacks choosing non traditional names?

That's a racist stereotype.

Blacks make up silly sounding names to make themselves stick out. Instead of being wallflowers they peacock.

Sounds right

They want their children to be unique rather than adopt vanilla names

.....they don't want to be like white people--who graduate and commit crimes at lower rates

You're white, and I sure as hell, would not want to be "like you".

Not much chance of that.

 

[Pogo]

So why are whites so intimidated by blacks choosing non traditional names?

That's a racist stereotype.

Blacks make up silly sounding names to make themselves stick out. Instead of being wallflowers they peacock.

You mean you notice names that "stick out" and don't notice those that blend in. Weird how that works.

Picabo Street, River Phoenix, Armand Hammer, Zolio Versailles, Sting, Jewel, Madonna, Elvis Costello, Frank Zappa, David Rockola, Ariel Bender, Blossom Dearie, Grover Cleveland Alexander, Tris Speaker, Eppa Rixey and Wolf Blitzer would agree.

When I was growing up I recall a baseball pitcher named Calvin Coolidige Julius Caesar Tuscahoma McLish. And I remember years ago when Saturday Night Live ended we would watch the credits waiting for the name of Jennie Ng. Then one day she must have got married because she changed to Jennie Ng Zletz. Yet I can't remember anybody else's name from that credit roll.

 

[rightwinger]

So why are whites so intimidated by blacks choosing non traditional names?

That's a racist stereotype.

Blacks make up silly sounding names to make themselves stick out. Instead of being wallflowers they peacock.

Sounds right

They want their children to be unique rather than adopt vanilla names

.....they don't want to be like white people--who graduate and commit crimes at lower rates

The very white people who persecuted them for hundreds of years

“I want my child to have a nice, white name”

 

[Carl in Michigan]

So why are whites so intimidated by blacks choosing non traditional names?

That's a racist stereotype.

Blacks make up silly sounding names to make themselves stick out. Instead of being wallflowers they peacock.

Sounds right

They want their children to be unique rather than adopt vanilla names

.....they don't want to be like white people--who graduate and commit crimes at lower rates

MUCH lower rates

 

[Carl in Michigan]

So why are whites so intimidated by blacks choosing non traditional names?

That's a racist stereotype.

Blacks make up silly sounding names to make themselves stick out. Instead of being wallflowers they peacock.

You mean you notice names that "stick out" and don't notice those that blend in. Weird how that works.

Picabo Street, River Phoenix, Armand Hammer, Zolio Versailles, Sting, Jewel, Madonna, Elvis Costello, Frank Zappa, David Rockola, Ariel Bender, Blossom Dearie, Grover Cleveland Alexander, Tris Speaker, Eppa Rixey and Wolf Blitzer would agree.

When I was growing up I recall a baseball pitcher named Calvin Coolidige Julius Caesar Tuscahoma McLish. And I remember years ago when Saturday Night Live ended we would watch the credits waiting for the name of Jennie Ng. Then one day she must have got married because she changed to Jennie Ng Zletz. Yet I can't remember anybody else's name from that credit roll.

And they all committed petty (and not so petty) crimes?

 

[IM2]

I have written in this space previously that much of Black "inequality" can be reasonably attributed to voluntary behaviors by individual Blacks - mainly bastardy, school drop-out tendency, and petty criminality - and I have recently come upon another one, also a total mystery to me.

It is "common knowledge" in the Black community that having a "Black" name can often lead to, for example, employment applications being discarded, and other similar forms of discrimination. Indeed, I have read some first-person accounts of white people having Black-sounding names (e.g., "Jamal") and experiencing such discrimination "unfairly"(?).

And yet, the trend toward bizarre Christian names among Blacks seems to be increasing as time goes by.

Malik. LaShonda. Trayvon. LaToya. Names with mis-placed capital letters, and apostrophes. I pity the inner-city Kindergarten teacher who must address these children in school for the first time, trying to figure out how to pronounce some of these bizarre names, and to do so without laughing. I have occasionally thought that mothers invent them in the hope that one day the child will be a mega-super-star of one form or another who can be known simply by that first name. Shaquille. OJ. Michael. Et cetera. (Oops. Has anybody used that one?)

But seriously, is this not an utterly stupid thing to do? Why would you - even potentially - saddle your kid with a name that will label him/her as Black, sight unseen, for the rest of his or her life, knowing that it is likely that the name will result in negative discrimination in at least some circumstances? You might as well put a tattoo on your child's forehead saying, "My Mother is an Idiot."

Were I a Black parent, I would go to the other extreme, naming my kid with the most Wasp-ish name I could imagine ("Chatsworth Osborne Smith"), in the hope that it might open a door somewhere in the future. If you want to CALL your kid something more creative, knock yourself out. But to put "D'boneHead" on a Birth Certificate is almost criminally stupid.

Here we have another white person trying to tell blacks what to do. First off, the root cause of the problems we face are rooted in racist beliefs and behavior of whites. Blacks don't need to name our kids as whites tell us to. Whites like the OP need to stop being racists.

Doesn't this thread sort of go against the prevailing belief of the majority of white posters here that there is ""Black Privilege"?

Afterall, none of these "noble, non racist" individuals here would discriminate against a black person who they think is black just based on their name, would they?

SMGDH

Discriminating against names doesnt come out of thin air. There is a reason people have trust issues with dudes named Malik. Is it fair? No, certainly not, but human beings are instinctually cautious, and when every mugger, car jacker, home invasion committing murderer has one of those names, it presents a pattern that one cannot ignore. People who give children these names have a long track record of terrible parenting. They frequently produce children who are problems. Its simply a fact.

Every mugger, car jacker or home invasion murderers have those names. Most of these people are named Sam, Dick, Tom and John. And they are white with parents having long records of terrible parenting. They frequently produce children who are problems. That is a fact. But you racists are delusional nut bags that ignore these problems in your own race to such an extent that little Larry grows up to be a doctor that rapes almost 200 little girls.

 

[IM2]

So why are whites so intimidated by blacks choosing non traditional names?

That's a racist stereotype.

Blacks make up silly sounding names to make themselves stick out. Instead of being wallflowers they peacock.

Sounds right

They want their children to be unique rather than adopt vanilla names

.....they don't want to be like white people--who graduate and commit crimes at lower rates

MUCH lower rates

Whites commit more crime.

 

[Pogo]

So why are whites so intimidated by blacks choosing non traditional names?

That's a racist stereotype.

Blacks make up silly sounding names to make themselves stick out. Instead of being wallflowers they peacock.

You mean you notice names that "stick out" and don't notice those that blend in. Weird how that works.

Picabo Street, River Phoenix, Armand Hammer, Zolio Versailles, Sting, Jewel, Madonna, Elvis Costello, Frank Zappa, David Rockola, Ariel Bender, Blossom Dearie, Grover Cleveland Alexander, Tris Speaker, Eppa Rixey and Wolf Blitzer would agree.

When I was growing up I recall a baseball pitcher named Calvin Coolidige Julius Caesar Tuscahoma McLish. And I remember years ago when Saturday Night Live ended we would watch the credits waiting for the name of Jennie Ng. Then one day she must have got married because she changed to Jennie Ng Zletz. Yet I can't remember anybody else's name from that credit roll.

And they all committed petty (and not so petty) crimes?

Uh --- what?

Some of 'em did. Who said jack shit about "crimes"?

Let's go back to the post I quoted. Roll tape.

Blacks make up silly sounding names to make themselves stick out. Instead of being wallflowers they peacock.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

So why are whites so intimidated by blacks choosing non traditional names?

That's a racist stereotype.

Blacks make up silly sounding names to make themselves stick out. Instead of being wallflowers they peacock.

Sounds right

They want their children to be unique rather than adopt vanilla names

.....they don't want to be like white people--who graduate and commit crimes at lower rates

MUCH lower rates

Whites commit more crime.

Blacks cant grast "per capita." Not sure why, they're just happy in their ignorance

 

[harmonica]

So why are whites so intimidated by blacks choosing non traditional names?

That's a racist stereotype.

Blacks make up silly sounding names to make themselves stick out. Instead of being wallflowers they peacock.

Sounds right

They want their children to be unique rather than adopt vanilla names

.....they don't want to be like white people--who graduate and commit crimes at lower rates

The very white people who persecuted them for hundreds of years

“I want my child to have a nice, white name”

..most whites IN THE SOUTH did not own slaves
most whites never had anything to do with blacks
..but if the blacks want to keep failing, that's up to them

 

[harmonica]

So why are whites so intimidated by blacks choosing non traditional names?

That's a racist stereotype.

Blacks make up silly sounding names to make themselves stick out. Instead of being wallflowers they peacock.

Sounds right

They want their children to be unique rather than adopt vanilla names

.....they don't want to be like white people--who graduate and commit crimes at lower rates

You're white, and I sure as hell, would not want to be "like you".

I'm native American

 

[katsteve2012]

So why are whites so intimidated by blacks choosing non traditional names?

That's a racist stereotype.

Blacks make up silly sounding names to make themselves stick out. Instead of being wallflowers they peacock.

Sounds right

They want their children to be unique rather than adopt vanilla names

.....they don't want to be like white people--who graduate and commit crimes at lower rates

You're white, and I sure as hell, would not want to be "like you".

I'm native American

And I'm Chinese.

 

[harmonica]

That's a racist stereotype.

Blacks make up silly sounding names to make themselves stick out. Instead of being wallflowers they peacock.

Sounds right

They want their children to be unique rather than adopt vanilla names

.....they don't want to be like white people--who graduate and commit crimes at lower rates

You're white, and I sure as hell, would not want to be "like you".

I'm native American

And I'm Chinese.

you don't believe me??!!

 

[Pogo]

So why are whites so intimidated by blacks choosing non traditional names?

That's a racist stereotype.

Blacks make up silly sounding names to make themselves stick out. Instead of being wallflowers they peacock.

Sounds right

They want their children to be unique rather than adopt vanilla names

.....they don't want to be like white people--who graduate and commit crimes at lower rates

You're white, and I sure as hell, would not want to be "like you".

I'm native American

Yeah I was born here too. What are the chances.