Boom!!!! Judge in Manafort case says Mueller only wants to hurt Trump

[eagle1462010]

Are you talking about collusion?

How long this investigation is going, fifteen months?

It all smacks of a typical Trump plan and drive them insane over months with a latter-day version of the Chinese water torture. A long slow push of minimal moves to achieve the maximum outcome.

The net result is that instead of the investigation delegitimizing Trump, it’s the investigation itself which has been deligitimised. Mueller has spent a year on a political goose chase and has come up with precisely nothing, especially within the given mandate. The result we have so far is a sign of how successful Trump’s strategy of dealing with the whole situation has been that he’s now begun to openly taunt Mueller and the investigation on social media, calling it a witch hunt. Mueller is desperate, and looking for some way out. The recent FBI raid he ordered on Trump’s attorney was a unique and brutal violation of any notion of client attorney privilege whether you were a special counsel or not.

To quote Newt Gingrich’s reaction to it: “Setting up a precedent that a prosecutor is allowed to dig into your life until finding a crime is a threat to the rule of law and a threat to every American.”

It was Mueller’s one last gasp attempt to get out of his dilemma by provoking Trump to fire him, which Trump won’t oblige him by doing, since he’s now got him exactly where he always planned to have him.

Not everyone is taking the leftist bait.

^ That judge is as retarded as the trumpers who post here.
Obviously if Rosenstein has set boundaries, it then cannot be " unfettered power" by any measure.

Over 300 years they are shooting for. Are they trying Charles Manson if your old enough to remember that

No one is "shooting" for 300 years, dope. Those are just the possible maximum sentences.

As i said is he Charles Manson.

Manson has nothing to do with it. Prosecutors charge the maximum so there's room to deal if the defendant wants to plea.

You mean Sing.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

^ That judge is as retarded as the trumpers who post here.
Obviously if Rosenstein has set boundaries, it then cannot be " unfettered power" by any measure.

Over 300 years they are shooting for. Are they trying Charles Manson if your old enough to remember that

No one is "shooting" for 300 years, dope. Those are just the possible maximum sentences.

As i said is he Charles Manson.

Manson has nothing to do with it. Prosecutors charge the maximum so there's room to deal if the defendant wants to plea.

You mean Sing.

I meant what I said.

 

[eagle1462010]

Over 300 years they are shooting for. Are they trying Charles Manson if your old enough to remember that

No one is "shooting" for 300 years, dope. Those are just the possible maximum sentences.

As i said is he Charles Manson.

Manson has nothing to do with it. Prosecutors charge the maximum so there's room to deal if the defendant wants to plea.

You mean Sing.

I meant what I said.

So did the Judge

 

[dannyboys]

Unfreaking real. Awesome development.

"You don't really care about Mr. Manafort's bank fraud," District Judge T.S. Ellis said to prosecutor Michael Dreeben, at times losing his temper. Ellis said prosecutors were interested in Manafort because of his potential to provide material that would lead to Trump's "prosecution or impeachment," Ellis said.

"That's what you're really interested in," said Ellis, who was appointed by President Ronald Reagan.

He repeated his suspicion several times in the hour-long court hearing."

Judge in Manafort case says Mueller's aim is to hurt Trump - CNNPolitics

Manafort is getting get out of jail free.
Cohen is getting off.
Flynn looks like he's going to walk.
Obstruction is weak even Hillary knows it won't work.
Mueller is 0-4.

Damn, after being bitch slapped twice by two different courts his career maker case is looking like a sinking ship thats about to take its captain with it.

You know what wishful thinking is?

Are you talking about collusion?

How long this investigation is going, fifteen months?

It all smacks of a typical Trump plan and drive them insane over months with a latter-day version of the Chinese water torture. A long slow push of minimal moves to achieve the maximum outcome.

The net result is that instead of the investigation delegitimizing Trump, it’s the investigation itself which has been deligitimised. Mueller has spent a year on a political goose chase and has come up with precisely nothing, especially within the given mandate. The result we have so far is a sign of how successful Trump’s strategy of dealing with the whole situation has been that he’s now begun to openly taunt Mueller and the investigation on social media, calling it a witch hunt. Mueller is desperate, and looking for some way out. The recent FBI raid he ordered on Trump’s attorney was a unique and brutal violation of any notion of client attorney privilege whether you were a special counsel or not.

To quote Newt Gingrich’s reaction to it: “Setting up a precedent that a prosecutor is allowed to dig into your life until finding a crime is a threat to the rule of law and a threat to every American.”

It was Mueller’s one last gasp attempt to get out of his dilemma by provoking Trump to fire him, which Trump won’t oblige him by doing, since he’s now got him exactly where he always planned to have him.

Not everyone is taking the leftist bait.

^ That judge is as retarded as the trumpers who post here.
Obviously if Rosenstein has set boundaries, it then cannot be " unfettered power" by any measure.

I can't wait to read your posts after the SC throws the case in the toilet asshole!
Mueller KNOWS if he tries to sopena Trump there's a little thing called 'discovery'. The LAST thing Mueller wants is for all his bullshit corruption along with Comey/McCabe/Page/Struck/Struck's FISA court buddy judge/Clapper/Brennan/etc etc to be made public record.
Make no mistake these seditious traitors WILL be brought to justice!
The Clinton's aren't getting much sleep lately and neither is Obama.

 

[dannyboys]

Are you talking about collusion?

How long this investigation is going, fifteen months?

It all smacks of a typical Trump plan and drive them insane over months with a latter-day version of the Chinese water torture. A long slow push of minimal moves to achieve the maximum outcome.

The net result is that instead of the investigation delegitimizing Trump, it’s the investigation itself which has been deligitimised. Mueller has spent a year on a political goose chase and has come up with precisely nothing, especially within the given mandate. The result we have so far is a sign of how successful Trump’s strategy of dealing with the whole situation has been that he’s now begun to openly taunt Mueller and the investigation on social media, calling it a witch hunt. Mueller is desperate, and looking for some way out. The recent FBI raid he ordered on Trump’s attorney was a unique and brutal violation of any notion of client attorney privilege whether you were a special counsel or not.

To quote Newt Gingrich’s reaction to it: “Setting up a precedent that a prosecutor is allowed to dig into your life until finding a crime is a threat to the rule of law and a threat to every American.”

It was Mueller’s one last gasp attempt to get out of his dilemma by provoking Trump to fire him, which Trump won’t oblige him by doing, since he’s now got him exactly where he always planned to have him.

Not everyone is taking the leftist bait.

^ That judge is as retarded as the trumpers who post here.
Obviously if Rosenstein has set boundaries, it then cannot be " unfettered power" by any measure.

Over 300 years they are shooting for. Are they trying Charles Manson if your old enough to remember that

No one is "shooting" for 300 years, dope. Those are just the possible maximum sentences.

As i said is he Charles Manson.

Manson has nothing to do with it. Prosecutors charge the maximum so there's room to deal if the defendant wants to plea.

Don't forget to change hands once in a while dummy. You could put your back our.
When everything blows up in your face you can always claim somehow 'The Russians' and President Trump somehow 'got to' the entire Mueller witch hunters.
And you will.
Any luck selling all those boxes of 'Hands Up Don't Shoot' T shirts yet?

 

[dannyboys]

No one is "shooting" for 300 years, dope. Those are just the possible maximum sentences.

As i said is he Charles Manson.

Manson has nothing to do with it. Prosecutors charge the maximum so there's room to deal if the defendant wants to plea.

You mean Sing.

I meant what I said.

So did the Judge

'Judges'. LOL!
Watch Mueller trying to judge-shop his bullshit around the country.

 

[jc456]

TIME TO SAY BUH BYE TO NIKKIE HALEY


Nikki Haley says she won’t defend Trump’s ‘communication style’

and?

 

[edward37]

As i said is he Charles Manson.

Manson has nothing to do with it. Prosecutors charge the maximum so there's room to deal if the defendant wants to plea.

You mean Sing.

I meant what I said.

So did the Judge

'Judges'. LOL!
Watch Mueller trying to judge-shop his bullshit around the country.

Mueller is more respected by even republicans than the blabbermouthed pos trump is A war hero a republican and one of the, if not the best at what he's doing AND all the shit morons try to throw at him won't stop him ,,so keep it up

 

[westwall]

the fbi was already actively investigating all russian ties prior to the election

No, they weren't. Your hero, the obummer, told them to back off.

the fbi was already actively investigating all russian ties prior to the election

No, they weren't. Your hero, the obummer, told them to back off.

Mods ought not lie so blatantly.

Director Comey says otherwise.
Video in link.

Trump-Russia collusion is being investigated by FBI, Comey confirms

• The counter-intelligence investigation into Trump-Moscow links began in late July 2016 and is still ongoing
• More than one person associated with the Trump campaign is under investigation for their ties to the Russian government

Director comey has already PROVABLY lied to Congress. He has ZERO credibility. No DA would ever call him as a witness now because he is now a KNOWN perjurer which makes his testimony worthless.

 

[toomuchtime_]

28 CFR 600.4 - Jurisdiction.

§ 600.4 Jurisdiction.
(a)Original jurisdiction. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall be established by the Attorney General. The Special Counsel will be provided with a specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall also include the authority to investigate and prosecute federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel's investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses; and to conduct appeals arising out of the matter being investigated and/or prosecuted.

(b)Additional jurisdiction. If in the course of his or her investigation the Special Counsel concludes that additional jurisdiction beyond that specified in his or her original jurisdiction is necessary in order to fully investigate and resolve the matters assigned, or to investigate new matters that come to light in the course of his or her investigation, he or she shall consult with the Attorney General, who will determine whether to include the additional matters within the Special Counsel's jurisdiction or assign them elsewhere.

(c)Civil and administrative jurisdiction. If in the course of his or her investigation the Special Counsel determines that administrative remedies, civil sanctions or other governmental action outside the criminal justice system might be appropriate, he or she shall consult with the Attorney General with respect to the appropriate component to take any necessary action. A Special Counsel shall not have civil or administrative authority unless specifically granted such jurisdiction by the Attorney General.

Thanks. You just posted corroboration for my points and destroyed your own.

I think I'll let the Judge decide that.................His position on this matters.........whether you like it or not.

We will all wait on the judge, who will decide that Rosenstein is the one who delineates the scope of the investigation, not the judge.

No, the judge will find Rosenstein's letter of authorization was too broad and that even then Mueller went beyond the authority granted to him by the letter. The Inspector General will issue a report soon that will level similar criticisms, Rosenstein will be reassigned to whatever the Justice Department's version of traffic court is and will resign. Since this judge has accused Mueller of lying and bending the rules to illegitimate ends, he will open an investigation into all of Mueller's actions to date and that will effectively shut down the whole faux investigation. Adam Schiff will then have nothing to talk about but Stormy Daniels underpants.

No, the judge will find Rosenstein's letter of authorization was too broad and that even then Mueller went beyond the authority granted to him by the letter.

The judge cannot "find" that in any way.
Rosenstein decides how broad the investigation will be. Not the judge.

Mueller did exactly what he was authorized to do.

Prosecutors: Rosenstein gave Mueller OK to probe, indict Manafort

"The May 17, 2017 [appointment] order was worded categorically in order to permit its release without confirming specific investigations involving specific individuals," Rosenstein wrote in the Aug. 2, 2017 memo. "The following allegations were within the scope of the Investigation at the time of your appointment and are within the scope of the Order: ... Allegations that Paul Manafort: Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President of the United States, in violation of United States law. Committed a crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government before and during the tenure of President Viktor Yanukovych."

Your contention that Rod Rosenstein has the power to order an investigation into any American for any reason he chooses, even if there is no evidence a crime has been committed, is truly bizarre and certainly unAmerican. No one in the US government has the kind of unfettered power you want to give to Rosenstein and no one should. However, Mueller exceeded the authority given to him by Rosenstein's letter to go after Manifort. The letter allows him to pursue crimes he uncovers in pursuit of his search for Russian involvement in the election, but the Manifort indictment is based on an old investigation in which Justice Department had closed years ago because of insufficient evidence and was outside Mueller's purview.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

the fbi was already actively investigating all russian ties prior to the election

No, they weren't. Your hero, the obummer, told them to back off.

the fbi was already actively investigating all russian ties prior to the election

No, they weren't. Your hero, the obummer, told them to back off.

Mods ought not lie so blatantly.

Director Comey says otherwise.
Video in link.

Trump-Russia collusion is being investigated by FBI, Comey confirms

• The counter-intelligence investigation into Trump-Moscow links began in late July 2016 and is still ongoing
• More than one person associated with the Trump campaign is under investigation for their ties to the Russian government

Director comey has already PROVABLY lied to Congress. He has ZERO credibility. No DA would ever call him as a witness now because he is now a KNOWN perjurer which makes his testimony worthless.

You're the only proven liar.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Thanks. You just posted corroboration for my points and destroyed your own.

I think I'll let the Judge decide that.................His position on this matters.........whether you like it or not.

We will all wait on the judge, who will decide that Rosenstein is the one who delineates the scope of the investigation, not the judge.

No, the judge will find Rosenstein's letter of authorization was too broad and that even then Mueller went beyond the authority granted to him by the letter. The Inspector General will issue a report soon that will level similar criticisms, Rosenstein will be reassigned to whatever the Justice Department's version of traffic court is and will resign. Since this judge has accused Mueller of lying and bending the rules to illegitimate ends, he will open an investigation into all of Mueller's actions to date and that will effectively shut down the whole faux investigation. Adam Schiff will then have nothing to talk about but Stormy Daniels underpants.

No, the judge will find Rosenstein's letter of authorization was too broad and that even then Mueller went beyond the authority granted to him by the letter.

The judge cannot "find" that in any way.
Rosenstein decides how broad the investigation will be. Not the judge.

Mueller did exactly what he was authorized to do.

Prosecutors: Rosenstein gave Mueller OK to probe, indict Manafort

"The May 17, 2017 [appointment] order was worded categorically in order to permit its release without confirming specific investigations involving specific individuals," Rosenstein wrote in the Aug. 2, 2017 memo. "The following allegations were within the scope of the Investigation at the time of your appointment and are within the scope of the Order: ... Allegations that Paul Manafort: Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President of the United States, in violation of United States law. Committed a crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government before and during the tenure of President Viktor Yanukovych."

Your contention that Rod Rosenstein has the power to order an investigation into any American for any reason he chooses, even if there is no evidence a crime has been committed, is truly bizarre and certainly unAmerican. No one in the US government has the kind of unfettered power you want to give to Rosenstein and no one should. However, Mueller exceeded the authority given to him by Rosenstein's letter to go after Manifort. The letter allows him to pursue crimes he uncovers in pursuit of his search for Russian involvement in the election, but the Manifort indictment is based on an old investigation in which Justice Department had closed years ago because of insufficient evidence and was outside Mueller's purview.

Your contention that Rod Rosenstein has the power to order an investigation into any American for any reason he chooses, even if there is no evidence a crime has been committed, is truly bizarre and certainly unAmerican.

That was never my contention, liar.



Mueller exceeded nothing, fool.

Prosecutors: Rosenstein gave Mueller OK to probe, indict Manafort

"The May 17, 2017 [appointment] order was worded categorically in order to permit its release without confirming specific investigations involving specific individuals," Rosenstein wrote in the Aug. 2, 2017 memo. "The following allegations were within the scope of the Investigation at the time of your appointment and are within the scope of the Order: ... Allegations that Paul Manafort: Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President of the United States, in violation of United States law. Committed a crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government before and during the tenure of President Viktor Yanukovych."

 

[toomuchtime_]

I think I'll let the Judge decide that.................His position on this matters.........whether you like it or not.

We will all wait on the judge, who will decide that Rosenstein is the one who delineates the scope of the investigation, not the judge.

No, the judge will find Rosenstein's letter of authorization was too broad and that even then Mueller went beyond the authority granted to him by the letter. The Inspector General will issue a report soon that will level similar criticisms, Rosenstein will be reassigned to whatever the Justice Department's version of traffic court is and will resign. Since this judge has accused Mueller of lying and bending the rules to illegitimate ends, he will open an investigation into all of Mueller's actions to date and that will effectively shut down the whole faux investigation. Adam Schiff will then have nothing to talk about but Stormy Daniels underpants.

No, the judge will find Rosenstein's letter of authorization was too broad and that even then Mueller went beyond the authority granted to him by the letter.

The judge cannot "find" that in any way.
Rosenstein decides how broad the investigation will be. Not the judge.

Mueller did exactly what he was authorized to do.

Prosecutors: Rosenstein gave Mueller OK to probe, indict Manafort

"The May 17, 2017 [appointment] order was worded categorically in order to permit its release without confirming specific investigations involving specific individuals," Rosenstein wrote in the Aug. 2, 2017 memo. "The following allegations were within the scope of the Investigation at the time of your appointment and are within the scope of the Order: ... Allegations that Paul Manafort: Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President of the United States, in violation of United States law. Committed a crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government before and during the tenure of President Viktor Yanukovych."

Your contention that Rod Rosenstein has the power to order an investigation into any American for any reason he chooses, even if there is no evidence a crime has been committed, is truly bizarre and certainly unAmerican. No one in the US government has the kind of unfettered power you want to give to Rosenstein and no one should. However, Mueller exceeded the authority given to him by Rosenstein's letter to go after Manifort. The letter allows him to pursue crimes he uncovers in pursuit of his search for Russian involvement in the election, but the Manifort indictment is based on an old investigation in which Justice Department had closed years ago because of insufficient evidence and was outside Mueller's purview.

Your contention that Rod Rosenstein has the power to order an investigation into any American for any reason he chooses, even if there is no evidence a crime has been committed, is truly bizarre and certainly unAmerican.

That was never my contention, liar.

In fact it was, but perhaps you didn't understand what you were saying when you posted it. Instead of getting defensive now and trying to turn this into a name calling contest, perhaps you should take the opportunity to reexamine your post and learn something from this discussion.

 

[toomuchtime_]

I think I'll let the Judge decide that.................His position on this matters.........whether you like it or not.

We will all wait on the judge, who will decide that Rosenstein is the one who delineates the scope of the investigation, not the judge.

No, the judge will find Rosenstein's letter of authorization was too broad and that even then Mueller went beyond the authority granted to him by the letter. The Inspector General will issue a report soon that will level similar criticisms, Rosenstein will be reassigned to whatever the Justice Department's version of traffic court is and will resign. Since this judge has accused Mueller of lying and bending the rules to illegitimate ends, he will open an investigation into all of Mueller's actions to date and that will effectively shut down the whole faux investigation. Adam Schiff will then have nothing to talk about but Stormy Daniels underpants.

No, the judge will find Rosenstein's letter of authorization was too broad and that even then Mueller went beyond the authority granted to him by the letter.

The judge cannot "find" that in any way.
Rosenstein decides how broad the investigation will be. Not the judge.

Mueller did exactly what he was authorized to do.

Prosecutors: Rosenstein gave Mueller OK to probe, indict Manafort

"The May 17, 2017 [appointment] order was worded categorically in order to permit its release without confirming specific investigations involving specific individuals," Rosenstein wrote in the Aug. 2, 2017 memo. "The following allegations were within the scope of the Investigation at the time of your appointment and are within the scope of the Order: ... Allegations that Paul Manafort: Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President of the United States, in violation of United States law. Committed a crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government before and during the tenure of President Viktor Yanukovych."

Your contention that Rod Rosenstein has the power to order an investigation into any American for any reason he chooses, even if there is no evidence a crime has been committed, is truly bizarre and certainly unAmerican. No one in the US government has the kind of unfettered power you want to give to Rosenstein and no one should. However, Mueller exceeded the authority given to him by Rosenstein's letter to go after Manifort. The letter allows him to pursue crimes he uncovers in pursuit of his search for Russian involvement in the election, but the Manifort indictment is based on an old investigation in which Justice Department had closed years ago because of insufficient evidence and was outside Mueller's purview.

Your contention that Rod Rosenstein has the power to order an investigation into any American for any reason he chooses, even if there is no evidence a crime has been committed, is truly bizarre and certainly unAmerican.

That was never my contention, liar.



Mueller exceeded nothing, fool.

Prosecutors: Rosenstein gave Mueller OK to probe, indict Manafort

"The May 17, 2017 [appointment] order was worded categorically in order to permit its release without confirming specific investigations involving specific individuals," Rosenstein wrote in the Aug. 2, 2017 memo. "The following allegations were within the scope of the Investigation at the time of your appointment and are within the scope of the Order: ... Allegations that Paul Manafort: Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President of the United States, in violation of United States law. Committed a crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government before and during the tenure of President Viktor Yanukovych."

However, all the charges against Manifort concern actions from ove ten years ago, so they had nothing to do with Russian meddling in the election and were therefor out of bounds for the special counsel.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

We will all wait on the judge, who will decide that Rosenstein is the one who delineates the scope of the investigation, not the judge.

No, the judge will find Rosenstein's letter of authorization was too broad and that even then Mueller went beyond the authority granted to him by the letter. The Inspector General will issue a report soon that will level similar criticisms, Rosenstein will be reassigned to whatever the Justice Department's version of traffic court is and will resign. Since this judge has accused Mueller of lying and bending the rules to illegitimate ends, he will open an investigation into all of Mueller's actions to date and that will effectively shut down the whole faux investigation. Adam Schiff will then have nothing to talk about but Stormy Daniels underpants.

No, the judge will find Rosenstein's letter of authorization was too broad and that even then Mueller went beyond the authority granted to him by the letter.

The judge cannot "find" that in any way.
Rosenstein decides how broad the investigation will be. Not the judge.

Mueller did exactly what he was authorized to do.

Prosecutors: Rosenstein gave Mueller OK to probe, indict Manafort

"The May 17, 2017 [appointment] order was worded categorically in order to permit its release without confirming specific investigations involving specific individuals," Rosenstein wrote in the Aug. 2, 2017 memo. "The following allegations were within the scope of the Investigation at the time of your appointment and are within the scope of the Order: ... Allegations that Paul Manafort: Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President of the United States, in violation of United States law. Committed a crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government before and during the tenure of President Viktor Yanukovych."

Your contention that Rod Rosenstein has the power to order an investigation into any American for any reason he chooses, even if there is no evidence a crime has been committed, is truly bizarre and certainly unAmerican. No one in the US government has the kind of unfettered power you want to give to Rosenstein and no one should. However, Mueller exceeded the authority given to him by Rosenstein's letter to go after Manifort. The letter allows him to pursue crimes he uncovers in pursuit of his search for Russian involvement in the election, but the Manifort indictment is based on an old investigation in which Justice Department had closed years ago because of insufficient evidence and was outside Mueller's purview.

Your contention that Rod Rosenstein has the power to order an investigation into any American for any reason he chooses, even if there is no evidence a crime has been committed, is truly bizarre and certainly unAmerican.

That was never my contention, liar.

In fact it was, but perhaps you didn't understand what you were saying when you posted it. Instead of getting defensive now and trying to turn this into a name calling contest, perhaps you should take the opportunity to reexamine your post and learn something from this discussion.

In fact it wasn't , loser. Post up any quote where I said that.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

We will all wait on the judge, who will decide that Rosenstein is the one who delineates the scope of the investigation, not the judge.

No, the judge will find Rosenstein's letter of authorization was too broad and that even then Mueller went beyond the authority granted to him by the letter. The Inspector General will issue a report soon that will level similar criticisms, Rosenstein will be reassigned to whatever the Justice Department's version of traffic court is and will resign. Since this judge has accused Mueller of lying and bending the rules to illegitimate ends, he will open an investigation into all of Mueller's actions to date and that will effectively shut down the whole faux investigation. Adam Schiff will then have nothing to talk about but Stormy Daniels underpants.

No, the judge will find Rosenstein's letter of authorization was too broad and that even then Mueller went beyond the authority granted to him by the letter.

The judge cannot "find" that in any way.
Rosenstein decides how broad the investigation will be. Not the judge.

Mueller did exactly what he was authorized to do.

Prosecutors: Rosenstein gave Mueller OK to probe, indict Manafort

"The May 17, 2017 [appointment] order was worded categorically in order to permit its release without confirming specific investigations involving specific individuals," Rosenstein wrote in the Aug. 2, 2017 memo. "The following allegations were within the scope of the Investigation at the time of your appointment and are within the scope of the Order: ... Allegations that Paul Manafort: Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President of the United States, in violation of United States law. Committed a crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government before and during the tenure of President Viktor Yanukovych."

Your contention that Rod Rosenstein has the power to order an investigation into any American for any reason he chooses, even if there is no evidence a crime has been committed, is truly bizarre and certainly unAmerican. No one in the US government has the kind of unfettered power you want to give to Rosenstein and no one should. However, Mueller exceeded the authority given to him by Rosenstein's letter to go after Manifort. The letter allows him to pursue crimes he uncovers in pursuit of his search for Russian involvement in the election, but the Manifort indictment is based on an old investigation in which Justice Department had closed years ago because of insufficient evidence and was outside Mueller's purview.

Your contention that Rod Rosenstein has the power to order an investigation into any American for any reason he chooses, even if there is no evidence a crime has been committed, is truly bizarre and certainly unAmerican.

That was never my contention, liar.



Mueller exceeded nothing, fool.

Prosecutors: Rosenstein gave Mueller OK to probe, indict Manafort

"The May 17, 2017 [appointment] order was worded categorically in order to permit its release without confirming specific investigations involving specific individuals," Rosenstein wrote in the Aug. 2, 2017 memo. "The following allegations were within the scope of the Investigation at the time of your appointment and are within the scope of the Order: ... Allegations that Paul Manafort: Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President of the United States, in violation of United States law. Committed a crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government before and during the tenure of President Viktor Yanukovych."

However, all the charges against Manifort concern actions from ove ten years ago, so they had nothing to do with Russian meddling in the election and were therefor out of bounds for the special counsel.

The AG determines what is out of bounds, dope. Not you, any judge or rw pundit has any say in the matter.

 

[toomuchtime_]

No, the judge will find Rosenstein's letter of authorization was too broad and that even then Mueller went beyond the authority granted to him by the letter. The Inspector General will issue a report soon that will level similar criticisms, Rosenstein will be reassigned to whatever the Justice Department's version of traffic court is and will resign. Since this judge has accused Mueller of lying and bending the rules to illegitimate ends, he will open an investigation into all of Mueller's actions to date and that will effectively shut down the whole faux investigation. Adam Schiff will then have nothing to talk about but Stormy Daniels underpants.

No, the judge will find Rosenstein's letter of authorization was too broad and that even then Mueller went beyond the authority granted to him by the letter.

The judge cannot "find" that in any way.
Rosenstein decides how broad the investigation will be. Not the judge.

Mueller did exactly what he was authorized to do.

Prosecutors: Rosenstein gave Mueller OK to probe, indict Manafort

"The May 17, 2017 [appointment] order was worded categorically in order to permit its release without confirming specific investigations involving specific individuals," Rosenstein wrote in the Aug. 2, 2017 memo. "The following allegations were within the scope of the Investigation at the time of your appointment and are within the scope of the Order: ... Allegations that Paul Manafort: Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President of the United States, in violation of United States law. Committed a crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government before and during the tenure of President Viktor Yanukovych."

Your contention that Rod Rosenstein has the power to order an investigation into any American for any reason he chooses, even if there is no evidence a crime has been committed, is truly bizarre and certainly unAmerican. No one in the US government has the kind of unfettered power you want to give to Rosenstein and no one should. However, Mueller exceeded the authority given to him by Rosenstein's letter to go after Manifort. The letter allows him to pursue crimes he uncovers in pursuit of his search for Russian involvement in the election, but the Manifort indictment is based on an old investigation in which Justice Department had closed years ago because of insufficient evidence and was outside Mueller's purview.

Your contention that Rod Rosenstein has the power to order an investigation into any American for any reason he chooses, even if there is no evidence a crime has been committed, is truly bizarre and certainly unAmerican.

That was never my contention, liar.

In fact it was, but perhaps you didn't understand what you were saying when you posted it. Instead of getting defensive now and trying to turn this into a name calling contest, perhaps you should take the opportunity to reexamine your post and learn something from this discussion.

In fact it wasn't , loser. Post up any quote where I said that.

You said the judge, meaning the federal courts, had no power over anything Rosenstein did, and since it is the federal courts that interpret the Constitution and other federal laws in this country, that neither the Constitution nor other federal laws could limit Rosenstein's power, you did, but again, perhaps you were, and are, unable to understand what you were saying.

 

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No, the judge will find Rosenstein's letter of authorization was too broad and that even then Mueller went beyond the authority granted to him by the letter. The Inspector General will issue a report soon that will level similar criticisms, Rosenstein will be reassigned to whatever the Justice Department's version of traffic court is and will resign. Since this judge has accused Mueller of lying and bending the rules to illegitimate ends, he will open an investigation into all of Mueller's actions to date and that will effectively shut down the whole faux investigation. Adam Schiff will then have nothing to talk about but Stormy Daniels underpants.

No, the judge will find Rosenstein's letter of authorization was too broad and that even then Mueller went beyond the authority granted to him by the letter.

The judge cannot "find" that in any way.
Rosenstein decides how broad the investigation will be. Not the judge.

Mueller did exactly what he was authorized to do.

Prosecutors: Rosenstein gave Mueller OK to probe, indict Manafort

"The May 17, 2017 [appointment] order was worded categorically in order to permit its release without confirming specific investigations involving specific individuals," Rosenstein wrote in the Aug. 2, 2017 memo. "The following allegations were within the scope of the Investigation at the time of your appointment and are within the scope of the Order: ... Allegations that Paul Manafort: Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President of the United States, in violation of United States law. Committed a crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government before and during the tenure of President Viktor Yanukovych."

Your contention that Rod Rosenstein has the power to order an investigation into any American for any reason he chooses, even if there is no evidence a crime has been committed, is truly bizarre and certainly unAmerican. No one in the US government has the kind of unfettered power you want to give to Rosenstein and no one should. However, Mueller exceeded the authority given to him by Rosenstein's letter to go after Manifort. The letter allows him to pursue crimes he uncovers in pursuit of his search for Russian involvement in the election, but the Manifort indictment is based on an old investigation in which Justice Department had closed years ago because of insufficient evidence and was outside Mueller's purview.

Your contention that Rod Rosenstein has the power to order an investigation into any American for any reason he chooses, even if there is no evidence a crime has been committed, is truly bizarre and certainly unAmerican.

That was never my contention, liar.



Mueller exceeded nothing, fool.

Prosecutors: Rosenstein gave Mueller OK to probe, indict Manafort

"The May 17, 2017 [appointment] order was worded categorically in order to permit its release without confirming specific investigations involving specific individuals," Rosenstein wrote in the Aug. 2, 2017 memo. "The following allegations were within the scope of the Investigation at the time of your appointment and are within the scope of the Order: ... Allegations that Paul Manafort: Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President of the United States, in violation of United States law. Committed a crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government before and during the tenure of President Viktor Yanukovych."

However, all the charges against Manifort concern actions from ove ten years ago, so they had nothing to do with Russian meddling in the election and were therefor out of bounds for the special counsel.

The AG determines what is out of bounds, dope. Not you, any judge or rw pundit has any say in the matter.

Perhaps that was true in the Soviet Union, and perhaps it is even true in Russia today, but it is not the case in the US.

 

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Manson has nothing to do with it. Prosecutors charge the maximum so there's room to deal if the defendant wants to plea.

You mean Sing.

I meant what I said.

So did the Judge

'Judges'. LOL!
Watch Mueller trying to judge-shop his bullshit around the country.

Mueller is more respected by even republicans than the blabbermouthed pos trump is A war hero a republican and one of the, if not the best at what he's doing AND all the shit morons try to throw at him won't stop him ,,so keep it up

you really let your hate lead you around like a puppy dog following a bone.

3 judges so far have said this is out of bounds. if it wasn't for your hate of trump, you'd likely see it too but since you want trump out of office by literally any means possible, you simply don't care. give eddie what he wants and suddenly he can be "honest". til then, again, your hate guides you.

now - tell me i love trump cause i don't hate like you do. i mean, there are only 2 emotions in the world, right?

 

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Unfreaking real. Awesome development.

"You don't really care about Mr. Manafort's bank fraud," District Judge T.S. Ellis said to prosecutor Michael Dreeben, at times losing his temper. Ellis said prosecutors were interested in Manafort because of his potential to provide material that would lead to Trump's "prosecution or impeachment," Ellis said.

"That's what you're really interested in," said Ellis, who was appointed by President Ronald Reagan.

He repeated his suspicion several times in the hour-long court hearing."

Judge in Manafort case says Mueller's aim is to hurt Trump - CNNPolitics

Mueller....... Mueller.... Mueller.....