Both sad and ridiculous

[yidnar]

Voting by mail works. Just ask any military member who is deployed overseas.

Better check with USPS, they informed 46 states they can't guarantee ballots will be arrived on time.

USPS: Blockbuster Video in the Netflix era.

You are fond of telling everyone how your family served in the military. Wanna ask one of them how voting by mail works?

why dont you tell us how mail in voting is exactly the same as voting by absentee ballot !

 

[Maxdeath]

I have shown many instances of cheating by both sides. Go back to school.

Well, you claim to but NO ONE has actually seen it.
btw, one million illegals requires how many bus loads ? No one noticed those 25, 000 busses.
you guys are absolute idiots. 25,000 bus drivers committing felonies and not one fking republican poll worker noticed..,how stupid are you guys.

As I pointed out I never once even hinted at millions of illegals voting. Why do you even pretend that you are talking facts if your going to lie what is being talked about?

 

[bendog]

A distinction without a difference. You're assuming the voter rolls are not accurate and that any inaccuacies will end with fraud. IOW.....you're imagining a problem that you don't know exists.

No, we KNOW the voter registration rolls are wrong.

No, we KNOW the voter registration rolls are wrong

LOL...
No you don't. You imagine they are and that any inaccuracies result in fraud and that fraud is perpetrated by and for the benefit of Dems only.

You have nothing but dopey suppositions and paranoid delusions.

We have already seen the disaster that mail in voting can be. It has been tried and failed. There was even a news crew that tried it with fake ballots. In one instance 3% were lost in the mail, even though the news crew mailed them. In another instance almost all disappeared.
those wanting mail in voting obviously have never dealt with the post office or have a plan to cheat. Nothing like having votes disappear or having six ballots shoved into one mail box.

six ballots shoved into one mail box.
if those 6 ballots all had the same address then thats where they go...

Yeah right. In a single family apartment with only two people living there. Damn do you ever stop? You do realize that people move right or don’t they explain thing like that in Beijing?

well then the carrier will forward the ones who dont live there....dont you ever stop with your bullshit?...try making up more scenarios you are good at it....

So where does he forward them to if no forwarding address or they have died Kreskin?

they get returned to sender with an explanation .....you live here and i have to explain that to you?...geezus....

So your claim is every post office employee knows that the people listed on that ballot is living there? They know that any ballot that is addressed to a certain address is only for those at that address? When a piece of mail is returned it usually returned by the person at the address not by the postman. So If that person decides to fill out that ballot that is ok with you right? If the post office does not get your vote in in time to be counted that is fine with you? If the postman does not feel like completing their rounds that day your fine with that? If your ballot gets lost your fine with that?

So your claim is every post office employee knows that the people listed on that ballot is living there?
not every employee....the carrier of that route.....i knew every name on my route and if it was one i wasnt sure of, i put a question mark on it and let them tell me,if they didnt know they usually wrote "not here" on it and it would be returned to sender unknown.....
When a piece of mail is returned it usually returned by the person at the address not by the postman.
with political mail like ballots,federal law says if you are not sure you have to attempt delivery,which i described above.....if the person does what you think everyone does with mail that is not theirs that isnt on me, i did what i am obligated to do, i attempted it.....its up to the register of voters to keep up with their voter rolls....not the PO....
If the postman does not feel like completing their rounds that day your fine with that?
lol....it dont work that way.....you think this is like that guy on cheers?...we could not just say "im done for today i will do the rest of the route tomorrow."..when you are done with the route is when you come back to the office....if for some reason you cant get done,like a vehical break down,they will send carriers out to help you get it done......
If your ballot gets lost your fine with that?
if your ballot got lost it wasnt because of me,if i have it when i leave the office you will get it that day.....but if it isnt in my hands i have no control over it....once i deliver it i did my part....

So you think no one has every delivered mail to a wrong address? I have gotten mail many times in my box that was for someone that I have never heard of, for someone three blocks over.
So you have no problem if someone fills out two, three or more ballots?
So here is just one of many Postal carrier hoarded 40,000 pieces of undelivered mail
but it never happens right?
I take it you have never worked behind the counter at a post office nor have you ever had a letter or package mysteriously go missing from the time it is mailed by the time it is supposed to be delivered.

]I plan to. Vote by mail is OK for people that have to contend with long, long lines due all the closed polling places done away with by republicans to control the vote or people that worried of standing in long, long lines during a pandemic that has already killed over 171,000 Americans, just as vote by mail is used regularly by Donny himself. I vote early and at time of my convenience and have for years. I will mask, glove and shield or even wear a disposable protective suit if necessary to vote early, in person and make sure my vote for the Biden/Harris ticket counts to put an end to trump's subversion of our government.

No. Vote by mail is fine ONLY for those who medically cannot reach the polling place or who are truly out of town... Like the POTUS, who maintains a permanent residence in FL.

COVID-19 and long lines are NOT acceptable reasons. I will walk into my polling place with no mask or any other “protective” device other than my knife. Then I’ll go to the range and the dojo I train at before returning home to prepare for the Revolutionary Conservative Resistance.

If good enough for trump, who thinks nothing of jetting down to his home for golf, it is good enough for everybody that wants to vote that way, unless trump sabotages the mail just in time for election.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same

LOL...
They're the same ballot and they're processed and counted in the exact same way. What do you imagine is different?

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

A distinction without a difference. You're assuming the voter rolls are not accurate and that any inaccuacies will end with fraud. IOW.....you're imagining a problem that you don't know exists.

no what I am imagining is that millions of ballots will be lost, considered not eligible or otherwise not counted. Some will indeed create fraud with mail in ballots just has been done in the past. We have had people for years that have indeed been prosecuted for voter fraud. If you think that voter rolls are up to date you are seriously deluded.

no what I am imagining is that millions of ballots will be lost, considered not eligible or otherwise not counted. Some will indeed create fraud with mail in ballots just has been done in the past. We have had people for years that have indeed been prosecuted for voter fraud. If you think that voter rolls are up to date you are seriously deluded

Like I said. It's in your imagimation.

yeah in my imagination, that’s why it is written about by news organizations and shown in the news. Millions of mail-in ballots went missing in 2018: Report

yeah in my imagination

Yes. In your imagination.
Your "report" didn't identify a single instance of fraud.

So you want voter fraud? Voter Fraud Map: Election Fraud Database | The Heritage Foundation
theses are only the cases that have been prosecuted. Actual numbers are that are not caught or not prosecuted are higher

So you want voter fraud? Voter Fraud Map: Election Fraud Database | The Heritage Foundation
theses are only the cases that have been prosecuted. Actual numbers are that are not caught or not prosecuted are higher

LOL...
You just admitted and documented there is no fraud of consequence. Good job, loser.

I take it you need to have someone read for you. The web page I pointed you to, the very first word is a ” sampling” .
it is no where near complete. And you can bet that only some of the instances are never found and some that are found out are probably never prosecute.

take it you need to have someone read for you. The web page I pointed you to, the very first word is a ” sampling” .
it is no where near complete. And you can bet that only some of the instances are never found and some that are found out are probably never prosecute.

Even a number 10x what you posted would be inconsequential.

You still have nothing.

Most would say that even one instance is too much but of course the left sees nothing wrong in cheating. They know they have no other choice.

Most would say that even one instance is too much but of course the left sees nothing wrong in cheating. They know they have no other choice.

I certainly don't see millions of illegals voting illegally.

Oh as long as millions are not voting illegally or millions of ballots are not being changed you are fine with it. But when things don’t go the lefts way no matter whether they cheat or not. They go crazy, claim Russia and try every underhanded thing they can to erase the election because they can’t accept it.

Oh as long as millions are not voting illegally or millions of ballots are not being changed you are fine with it

Umm....yeah. You're not cool with a clean election?

You seem to have the problem with a clean election. You are the one that doesn’t mind cheating. But I understand that, the left knows the need to cheat and understand that they need to win any way they can

Max cheating to any big degree that makes any difference at all is NON EXISTENT It's just republican bs trying to keep voting down so trump has a chance ,,,Forget about it That ship has already sailed IF Trump wins the fix was in

And you can bet if the Democrats get mass mailings of ballots and win everyone will say they got it by cheating.

You leader already is on record for saying if he loses Dems cheated What a fn pos... A gd traitor The pos needs to sow doubt into the minds of our country?? Is nothing to low for him?

Of course you'll accept the results if he wins, correct?

If he wins with no Russian support Of course I'd accept the results BUT do I have to like them too??

Why would any Trump reelection be legit after the states suppressed minority votes and Trump tried to not count mailins? We need federally standardized national elections.

Legal doesn't mean right

Why would any Biden election be legit after Democrats tried to change voting systems to something that would require years of planning and preparation just a couple of months before the election?

We need leftists to stop trying to rig elections.

The end doesn't justify the means.

What t was change?

 

[kaz]

I don't see a problem with the 1200 or so you cited. If that's all that could be found out of hundreds of millions of ballots, then any fraud that does exist is not game changing.

Once again it is a partial list. Do you understand the word partial?
I would prefer an election with not one ballot not counted, one ballot not changed. No cheating at all. But I guess you think cheating is perfectly okay.
I would prefer voter ID. I know the left claims that minorities are not smart enough to get or keep on. But I know minoritieshave and keep driver’s license, social security, ACA some even have SNAP and other forms of assistance.
I would like voters rolls to be merged into a national database so we know that John Doe has not crossed county or state lines to vote numerous times. I would like to know that Jos Guatemala that was smuggled across the border last week is not voting.

You say there was not enough to matter I am sure you don’t remember the 2000 election.

LOL I remember 2000 election well ...I voted for GWB ,my last republican vote

And so your story changes ... again ...

You never voted for a Republican in your life. Be honest

Now, now. It's entirely possible he sustained a traumatic brain injury at some point. In fact, I wouldn't be at all surprised.

Anyone who believes eddiew was ever a Republican has a traumatic brain injury

I tend to doubt it myself. That level of stupid tends to be lifelong.

Since when is it considered being stupid to believe in science and facts. The stupid people are those who pray for a good job instead of getting a better education and working for it.

The last thing Democrats pay attention to are science or facts. For you it's all about ...



And more specifically, all you care is about how YOU feel. You don't care about other people even when you destroy them as long as you can feel smug and superior while you do it

Seriously, you believe in AGW as a Democrat does ? . Cause if you don’t you don’t know science.

Democrats don't believe in AGW. There are two things we could do today that would have a major impact on reducing emissions without harming our economy. Those are nuclear power and fracking for natural gas.

Democrats oppose both of those.

It's a political hammer to them. So if you actually do believe in AGW, you're not like the Democrats

 

[kaz]

And more specifically, all you care is about how YOU feel. You don't care about other people even when you destroy them as long as you can feel smug and superior while you do it

Wow, from science to “ feelings”, that’s a jump. If you feel destroyed because the facts prove you wrong, that’s your problem. Learn to deal with it.

Now you're just making shit up. You didn't present any "facts." You're just providing exactly what I said, feelings

 

[Dagosa]

I don't see a problem with the 1200 or so you cited. If that's all that could be found out of hundreds of millions of ballots, then any fraud that does exist is not game changing.

Once again it is a partial list. Do you understand the word partial?
I would prefer an election with not one ballot not counted, one ballot not changed. No cheating at all. But I guess you think cheating is perfectly okay.
I would prefer voter ID. I know the left claims that minorities are not smart enough to get or keep on. But I know minoritieshave and keep driver’s license, social security, ACA some even have SNAP and other forms of assistance.
I would like voters rolls to be merged into a national database so we know that John Doe has not crossed county or state lines to vote numerous times. I would like to know that Jos Guatemala that was smuggled across the border last week is not voting.

You say there was not enough to matter I am sure you don’t remember the 2000 election.

LOL I remember 2000 election well ...I voted for GWB ,my last republican vote

And so your story changes ... again ...

You never voted for a Republican in your life. Be honest

Now, now. It's entirely possible he sustained a traumatic brain injury at some point. In fact, I wouldn't be at all surprised.

Anyone who believes eddiew was ever a Republican has a traumatic brain injury

I tend to doubt it myself. That level of stupid tends to be lifelong.

Since when is it considered being stupid to believe in science and facts. The stupid people are those who pray for a good job instead of getting a better education and working for it.

The last thing Democrats pay attention to are science or facts. For you it's all about ...



And more specifically, all you care is about how YOU feel. You don't care about other people even when you destroy them as long as you can feel smug and superior while you do it

Seriously, you believe in AGW as a Democrat does ? . Cause if you don’t you don’t know science.

Democrats don't believe in AGW. There are two things we could do today that would have a major impact on reducing emissions without harming our economy. Those are nuclear power and fracking for natural gas.

Democrats oppose both of those.

It's a political hammer to them. So if you actually do believe in AGW, you're not like the Democrats

no, I believe in science. AGW is real, not a political hammer. That you pretend you‘re smarter then everyother govt. major Corp or university and climate research facility is hilarious. Pick another science topic and not AGW to doubt. It makes you a fool.

 

[Dagosa]

I have shown many instances of cheating by both sides. Go back to school.

Well, you claim to but NO ONE has actually seen it.
btw, one million illegals requires how many bus loads ? No one noticed those 25, 000 busses.
you guys are absolute idiots. 25,000 bus drivers committing felonies and not one fking republican poll worker noticed..,how stupid are you guys.

As I pointed out I never once even hinted at millions of illegals voting. Why do you even pretend that you are talking facts if your going to lie what is being talked about?

You hang with that crowd. Live with it.

 

[Dagosa]

Voting by mail works. Just ask any military member who is deployed overseas.

Better check with USPS, they informed 46 states they can't guarantee ballots will be arrived on time.

USPS: Blockbuster Video in the Netflix era.

You are fond of telling everyone how your family served in the military. Wanna ask one of them how voting by mail works?

why dont you tell us how mail in voting is exactly the same as voting by absentee ballot !

Why don’t you tell us why it isn’t .
Tell us exactly how people steal ballots then vote with them.

 

[kaz]

I don't see a problem with the 1200 or so you cited. If that's all that could be found out of hundreds of millions of ballots, then any fraud that does exist is not game changing.

Once again it is a partial list. Do you understand the word partial?
I would prefer an election with not one ballot not counted, one ballot not changed. No cheating at all. But I guess you think cheating is perfectly okay.
I would prefer voter ID. I know the left claims that minorities are not smart enough to get or keep on. But I know minoritieshave and keep driver’s license, social security, ACA some even have SNAP and other forms of assistance.
I would like voters rolls to be merged into a national database so we know that John Doe has not crossed county or state lines to vote numerous times. I would like to know that Jos Guatemala that was smuggled across the border last week is not voting.

You say there was not enough to matter I am sure you don’t remember the 2000 election.

LOL I remember 2000 election well ...I voted for GWB ,my last republican vote

And so your story changes ... again ...

You never voted for a Republican in your life. Be honest

Now, now. It's entirely possible he sustained a traumatic brain injury at some point. In fact, I wouldn't be at all surprised.

Anyone who believes eddiew was ever a Republican has a traumatic brain injury

I tend to doubt it myself. That level of stupid tends to be lifelong.

Since when is it considered being stupid to believe in science and facts. The stupid people are those who pray for a good job instead of getting a better education and working for it.

The last thing Democrats pay attention to are science or facts. For you it's all about ...



And more specifically, all you care is about how YOU feel. You don't care about other people even when you destroy them as long as you can feel smug and superior while you do it

Seriously, you believe in AGW as a Democrat does ? . Cause if you don’t you don’t know science.

Democrats don't believe in AGW. There are two things we could do today that would have a major impact on reducing emissions without harming our economy. Those are nuclear power and fracking for natural gas.

Democrats oppose both of those.

It's a political hammer to them. So if you actually do believe in AGW, you're not like the Democrats

no, I believe in science. AGW is real, not a political hammer. That you pretend you‘re smarter then everyother govt. major Corp or university and climate research facility is hilarious. Pick another science topic and not AGW to doubt. It makes you a fool.

So you can't address what I said, huh? Of course you can't. You're a mindless Democrat

 

[Maxdeath]

I have shown many instances of cheating by both sides. Go back to school.

Well, you claim to but NO ONE has actually seen it.
btw, one million illegals requires how many bus loads ? No one noticed those 25, 000 busses.
you guys are absolute idiots. 25,000 bus drivers committing felonies and not one fking republican poll worker noticed..,how stupid are you guys.

As I pointed out I never once even hinted at millions of illegals voting. Why do you even pretend that you are talking facts if your going to lie what is being talked about?

You hang with that crowd. Live with it.

You really are stupid. I have said that I want to make sure that no one is able to cheat in any election. But you seem to reveal in the idea of cheating

 

[Maxdeath]

I don't see a problem with the 1200 or so you cited. If that's all that could be found out of hundreds of millions of ballots, then any fraud that does exist is not game changing.

Once again it is a partial list. Do you understand the word partial?
I would prefer an election with not one ballot not counted, one ballot not changed. No cheating at all. But I guess you think cheating is perfectly okay.
I would prefer voter ID. I know the left claims that minorities are not smart enough to get or keep on. But I know minoritieshave and keep driver’s license, social security, ACA some even have SNAP and other forms of assistance.
I would like voters rolls to be merged into a national database so we know that John Doe has not crossed county or state lines to vote numerous times. I would like to know that Jos Guatemala that was smuggled across the border last week is not voting.

You say there was not enough to matter I am sure you don’t remember the 2000 election.

LOL I remember 2000 election well ...I voted for GWB ,my last republican vote

And so your story changes ... again ...

You never voted for a Republican in your life. Be honest

Now, now. It's entirely possible he sustained a traumatic brain injury at some point. In fact, I wouldn't be at all surprised.

Anyone who believes eddiew was ever a Republican has a traumatic brain injury

I tend to doubt it myself. That level of stupid tends to be lifelong.

Since when is it considered being stupid to believe in science and facts. The stupid people are those who pray for a good job instead of getting a better education and working for it.

The last thing Democrats pay attention to are science or facts. For you it's all about ...



And more specifically, all you care is about how YOU feel. You don't care about other people even when you destroy them as long as you can feel smug and superior while you do it

Seriously, you believe in AGW as a Democrat does ? . Cause if you don’t you don’t know science.

Democrats don't believe in AGW. There are two things we could do today that would have a major impact on reducing emissions without harming our economy. Those are nuclear power and fracking for natural gas.

Democrats oppose both of those.

It's a political hammer to them. So if you actually do believe in AGW, you're not like the Democrats

no, I believe in science. AGW is real, not a political hammer. That you pretend you‘re smarter then everyother govt. major Corp or university and climate research facility is hilarious. Pick another science topic and not AGW to doubt. It makes you a fool.

So you can't address what I said, huh? Of course you can't. You're a mindless Democrat

The guy is a fool. He tells nothing but lies. I am guessing that he works in Beijing.

 

[Dagosa]

I have shown many instances of cheating by both sides. Go back to school.

Well, you claim to but NO ONE has actually seen it.
btw, one million illegals requires how many bus loads ? No one noticed those 25, 000 busses.
you guys are absolute idiots. 25,000 bus drivers committing felonies and not one fking republican poll worker noticed..,how stupid are you guys.

As I pointed out I never once even hinted at millions of illegals voting. Why do you even pretend that you are talking facts if your going to lie what is being talked about?

You hang with that crowd. Live with it.

You really are stupid. I have said that I want to make sure that no one is able to cheat in any election. But you seem to reveal in the idea of cheating

You’re the stupid one. You’ve yet to show there is any election fraud going on. Nothing has been found between both the Trump and Bush commissions. NOTHING. But you seem to still believe in lies. Why ? I think you and your conspiracy laden friends Just want to negate the black and brown vote. This is a move of bigots.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, they claim that there is rampant voter fraud, but when it comes time to prove it, they can't. Voter fraud happens less than a tenth of one percent of the total vote, meaning it's not enough to worry about.

 

[Dagosa]

A distinction without a difference. You're assuming the voter rolls are not accurate and that any inaccuacies will end with fraud. IOW.....you're imagining a problem that you don't know exists.

No, we KNOW the voter registration rolls are wrong.

No, we KNOW the voter registration rolls are wrong

LOL...
No you don't. You imagine they are and that any inaccuracies result in fraud and that fraud is perpetrated by and for the benefit of Dems only.

You have nothing but dopey suppositions and paranoid delusions.

We have already seen the disaster that mail in voting can be. It has been tried and failed. There was even a news crew that tried it with fake ballots. In one instance 3% were lost in the mail, even though the news crew mailed them. In another instance almost all disappeared.
those wanting mail in voting obviously have never dealt with the post office or have a plan to cheat. Nothing like having votes disappear or having six ballots shoved into one mail box.

six ballots shoved into one mail box.
if those 6 ballots all had the same address then thats where they go...

Yeah right. In a single family apartment with only two people living there. Damn do you ever stop? You do realize that people move right or don’t they explain thing like that in Beijing?

well then the carrier will forward the ones who dont live there....dont you ever stop with your bullshit?...try making up more scenarios you are good at it....

So where does he forward them to if no forwarding address or they have died Kreskin?

they get returned to sender with an explanation .....you live here and i have to explain that to you?...geezus....

So your claim is every post office employee knows that the people listed on that ballot is living there? They know that any ballot that is addressed to a certain address is only for those at that address? When a piece of mail is returned it usually returned by the person at the address not by the postman. So If that person decides to fill out that ballot that is ok with you right? If the post office does not get your vote in in time to be counted that is fine with you? If the postman does not feel like completing their rounds that day your fine with that? If your ballot gets lost your fine with that?

So your claim is every post office employee knows that the people listed on that ballot is living there?
not every employee....the carrier of that route.....i knew every name on my route and if it was one i wasnt sure of, i put a question mark on it and let them tell me,if they didnt know they usually wrote "not here" on it and it would be returned to sender unknown.....
When a piece of mail is returned it usually returned by the person at the address not by the postman.
with political mail like ballots,federal law says if you are not sure you have to attempt delivery,which i described above.....if the person does what you think everyone does with mail that is not theirs that isnt on me, i did what i am obligated to do, i attempted it.....its up to the register of voters to keep up with their voter rolls....not the PO....
If the postman does not feel like completing their rounds that day your fine with that?
lol....it dont work that way.....you think this is like that guy on cheers?...we could not just say "im done for today i will do the rest of the route tomorrow."..when you are done with the route is when you come back to the office....if for some reason you cant get done,like a vehical break down,they will send carriers out to help you get it done......
If your ballot gets lost your fine with that?
if your ballot got lost it wasnt because of me,if i have it when i leave the office you will get it that day.....but if it isnt in my hands i have no control over it....once i deliver it i did my part....

So you think no one has every delivered mail to a wrong address? I have gotten mail many times in my box that was for someone that I have never heard of, for someone three blocks over.
So you have no problem if someone fills out two, three or more ballots?
So here is just one of many Postal carrier hoarded 40,000 pieces of undelivered mail
but it never happens right?
I take it you have never worked behind the counter at a post office nor have you ever had a letter or package mysteriously go missing from the time it is mailed by the time it is supposed to be delivered.

]I plan to. Vote by mail is OK for people that have to contend with long, long lines due all the closed polling places done away with by republicans to control the vote or people that worried of standing in long, long lines during a pandemic that has already killed over 171,000 Americans, just as vote by mail is used regularly by Donny himself. I vote early and at time of my convenience and have for years. I will mask, glove and shield or even wear a disposable protective suit if necessary to vote early, in person and make sure my vote for the Biden/Harris ticket counts to put an end to trump's subversion of our government.

No. Vote by mail is fine ONLY for those who medically cannot reach the polling place or who are truly out of town... Like the POTUS, who maintains a permanent residence in FL.

COVID-19 and long lines are NOT acceptable reasons. I will walk into my polling place with no mask or any other “protective” device other than my knife. Then I’ll go to the range and the dojo I train at before returning home to prepare for the Revolutionary Conservative Resistance.

If good enough for trump, who thinks nothing of jetting down to his home for golf, it is good enough for everybody that wants to vote that way, unless trump sabotages the mail just in time for election.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same

LOL...
They're the same ballot and they're processed and counted in the exact same way. What do you imagine is different?

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

A distinction without a difference. You're assuming the voter rolls are not accurate and that any inaccuacies will end with fraud. IOW.....you're imagining a problem that you don't know exists.

no what I am imagining is that millions of ballots will be lost, considered not eligible or otherwise not counted. Some will indeed create fraud with mail in ballots just has been done in the past. We have had people for years that have indeed been prosecuted for voter fraud. If you think that voter rolls are up to date you are seriously deluded.

no what I am imagining is that millions of ballots will be lost, considered not eligible or otherwise not counted. Some will indeed create fraud with mail in ballots just has been done in the past. We have had people for years that have indeed been prosecuted for voter fraud. If you think that voter rolls are up to date you are seriously deluded

Like I said. It's in your imagimation.

yeah in my imagination, that’s why it is written about by news organizations and shown in the news. Millions of mail-in ballots went missing in 2018: Report

yeah in my imagination

Yes. In your imagination.
Your "report" didn't identify a single instance of fraud.

So you want voter fraud? Voter Fraud Map: Election Fraud Database | The Heritage Foundation
theses are only the cases that have been prosecuted. Actual numbers are that are not caught or not prosecuted are higher

So you want voter fraud? Voter Fraud Map: Election Fraud Database | The Heritage Foundation
theses are only the cases that have been prosecuted. Actual numbers are that are not caught or not prosecuted are higher

LOL...
You just admitted and documented there is no fraud of consequence. Good job, loser.

I take it you need to have someone read for you. The web page I pointed you to, the very first word is a ” sampling” .
it is no where near complete. And you can bet that only some of the instances are never found and some that are found out are probably never prosecute.

take it you need to have someone read for you. The web page I pointed you to, the very first word is a ” sampling” .
it is no where near complete. And you can bet that only some of the instances are never found and some that are found out are probably never prosecute.

Even a number 10x what you posted would be inconsequential.

You still have nothing.

Most would say that even one instance is too much but of course the left sees nothing wrong in cheating. They know they have no other choice.

Most would say that even one instance is too much but of course the left sees nothing wrong in cheating. They know they have no other choice.

I certainly don't see millions of illegals voting illegally.

Oh as long as millions are not voting illegally or millions of ballots are not being changed you are fine with it. But when things don’t go the lefts way no matter whether they cheat or not. They go crazy, claim Russia and try every underhanded thing they can to erase the election because they can’t accept it.

Oh as long as millions are not voting illegally or millions of ballots are not being changed you are fine with it

Umm....yeah. You're not cool with a clean election?

You seem to have the problem with a clean election. You are the one that doesn’t mind cheating. But I understand that, the left knows the need to cheat and understand that they need to win any way they can

You seem to have the problem with a clean election. You are the one that doesn’t mind cheating. But I understand that, the left knows the need to cheat and understand that they need to win any way they can

I don't see a problem with the 1200 or so you cited. If that's all that could be found out of hundreds of millions of ballots, then any fraud that does exist is not game changing.

“But I guess you think cheating is perfectly okay.”
About as much as you think it’s not cheating COLLUDING with Russia, screwing up the mail delivery and lying every fking day of the week about the virus. Somehow, pretending that black and brown people should be discriminated agaisnt so your kkk friends can all gov a country with a white minority excusses supporting the biggest imbecile and traitor this country has ever known....is fine.,

 

[Maxdeath]

I have shown many instances of cheating by both sides. Go back to school.

Well, you claim to but NO ONE has actually seen it.
btw, one million illegals requires how many bus loads ? No one noticed those 25, 000 busses.
you guys are absolute idiots. 25,000 bus drivers committing felonies and not one fking republican poll worker noticed..,how stupid are you guys.

As I pointed out I never once even hinted at millions of illegals voting. Why do you even pretend that you are talking facts if your going to lie what is being talked about?

You hang with that crowd. Live with it.

You really are stupid. I have said that I want to make sure that no one is able to cheat in any election. But you seem to reveal in the idea of cheating

You’re the stupid one. You’ve yet to show there is any election fraud going on. Nothing has been found between both the Trump and Bush commissions. NOTHING. But you seem to still believe in lies. Why ? I think you and your conspiracy laden friends Just want to negate the black and brown vote. This is a move of bigots.

Go beach through my posts. You will find a link to the Heritage Foundation that gives a sampling of the election fraud that has been prosecuted. It is not a complete list nor does it claim to show the cheating that has not been found nor does it bother with cases that were not prosecuted.
I take it you were not working for your Chinese bosses when Trump tried to do an election commission. The crazy left went ballistic. Blue states refused to give them any information. So the commission was disbanded with no findings because they had no information from blue states. Makes one wonder what they are hiding?
the only ones that want legal minorities to not vote is the democrats if they don’t vote for them. Biden said you aren’t black if you don’t vote for me. So what race are those that don’t vote for him? A black Trump voter was recently killed. Why do you think that was?

 

[Maxdeath]

A distinction without a difference. You're assuming the voter rolls are not accurate and that any inaccuacies will end with fraud. IOW.....you're imagining a problem that you don't know exists.

No, we KNOW the voter registration rolls are wrong.

No, we KNOW the voter registration rolls are wrong

LOL...
No you don't. You imagine they are and that any inaccuracies result in fraud and that fraud is perpetrated by and for the benefit of Dems only.

You have nothing but dopey suppositions and paranoid delusions.

We have already seen the disaster that mail in voting can be. It has been tried and failed. There was even a news crew that tried it with fake ballots. In one instance 3% were lost in the mail, even though the news crew mailed them. In another instance almost all disappeared.
those wanting mail in voting obviously have never dealt with the post office or have a plan to cheat. Nothing like having votes disappear or having six ballots shoved into one mail box.

six ballots shoved into one mail box.
if those 6 ballots all had the same address then thats where they go...

Yeah right. In a single family apartment with only two people living there. Damn do you ever stop? You do realize that people move right or don’t they explain thing like that in Beijing?

well then the carrier will forward the ones who dont live there....dont you ever stop with your bullshit?...try making up more scenarios you are good at it....

So where does he forward them to if no forwarding address or they have died Kreskin?

they get returned to sender with an explanation .....you live here and i have to explain that to you?...geezus....

So your claim is every post office employee knows that the people listed on that ballot is living there? They know that any ballot that is addressed to a certain address is only for those at that address? When a piece of mail is returned it usually returned by the person at the address not by the postman. So If that person decides to fill out that ballot that is ok with you right? If the post office does not get your vote in in time to be counted that is fine with you? If the postman does not feel like completing their rounds that day your fine with that? If your ballot gets lost your fine with that?

So your claim is every post office employee knows that the people listed on that ballot is living there?
not every employee....the carrier of that route.....i knew every name on my route and if it was one i wasnt sure of, i put a question mark on it and let them tell me,if they didnt know they usually wrote "not here" on it and it would be returned to sender unknown.....
When a piece of mail is returned it usually returned by the person at the address not by the postman.
with political mail like ballots,federal law says if you are not sure you have to attempt delivery,which i described above.....if the person does what you think everyone does with mail that is not theirs that isnt on me, i did what i am obligated to do, i attempted it.....its up to the register of voters to keep up with their voter rolls....not the PO....
If the postman does not feel like completing their rounds that day your fine with that?
lol....it dont work that way.....you think this is like that guy on cheers?...we could not just say "im done for today i will do the rest of the route tomorrow."..when you are done with the route is when you come back to the office....if for some reason you cant get done,like a vehical break down,they will send carriers out to help you get it done......
If your ballot gets lost your fine with that?
if your ballot got lost it wasnt because of me,if i have it when i leave the office you will get it that day.....but if it isnt in my hands i have no control over it....once i deliver it i did my part....

So you think no one has every delivered mail to a wrong address? I have gotten mail many times in my box that was for someone that I have never heard of, for someone three blocks over.
So you have no problem if someone fills out two, three or more ballots?
So here is just one of many Postal carrier hoarded 40,000 pieces of undelivered mail
but it never happens right?
I take it you have never worked behind the counter at a post office nor have you ever had a letter or package mysteriously go missing from the time it is mailed by the time it is supposed to be delivered.

]I plan to. Vote by mail is OK for people that have to contend with long, long lines due all the closed polling places done away with by republicans to control the vote or people that worried of standing in long, long lines during a pandemic that has already killed over 171,000 Americans, just as vote by mail is used regularly by Donny himself. I vote early and at time of my convenience and have for years. I will mask, glove and shield or even wear a disposable protective suit if necessary to vote early, in person and make sure my vote for the Biden/Harris ticket counts to put an end to trump's subversion of our government.

No. Vote by mail is fine ONLY for those who medically cannot reach the polling place or who are truly out of town... Like the POTUS, who maintains a permanent residence in FL.

COVID-19 and long lines are NOT acceptable reasons. I will walk into my polling place with no mask or any other “protective” device other than my knife. Then I’ll go to the range and the dojo I train at before returning home to prepare for the Revolutionary Conservative Resistance.

If good enough for trump, who thinks nothing of jetting down to his home for golf, it is good enough for everybody that wants to vote that way, unless trump sabotages the mail just in time for election.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same

LOL...
They're the same ballot and they're processed and counted in the exact same way. What do you imagine is different?

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

A distinction without a difference. You're assuming the voter rolls are not accurate and that any inaccuacies will end with fraud. IOW.....you're imagining a problem that you don't know exists.

no what I am imagining is that millions of ballots will be lost, considered not eligible or otherwise not counted. Some will indeed create fraud with mail in ballots just has been done in the past. We have had people for years that have indeed been prosecuted for voter fraud. If you think that voter rolls are up to date you are seriously deluded.

no what I am imagining is that millions of ballots will be lost, considered not eligible or otherwise not counted. Some will indeed create fraud with mail in ballots just has been done in the past. We have had people for years that have indeed been prosecuted for voter fraud. If you think that voter rolls are up to date you are seriously deluded

Like I said. It's in your imagimation.

yeah in my imagination, that’s why it is written about by news organizations and shown in the news. Millions of mail-in ballots went missing in 2018: Report

yeah in my imagination

Yes. In your imagination.
Your "report" didn't identify a single instance of fraud.

So you want voter fraud? Voter Fraud Map: Election Fraud Database | The Heritage Foundation
theses are only the cases that have been prosecuted. Actual numbers are that are not caught or not prosecuted are higher

So you want voter fraud? Voter Fraud Map: Election Fraud Database | The Heritage Foundation
theses are only the cases that have been prosecuted. Actual numbers are that are not caught or not prosecuted are higher

LOL...
You just admitted and documented there is no fraud of consequence. Good job, loser.

I take it you need to have someone read for you. The web page I pointed you to, the very first word is a ” sampling” .
it is no where near complete. And you can bet that only some of the instances are never found and some that are found out are probably never prosecute.

take it you need to have someone read for you. The web page I pointed you to, the very first word is a ” sampling” .
it is no where near complete. And you can bet that only some of the instances are never found and some that are found out are probably never prosecute.

Even a number 10x what you posted would be inconsequential.

You still have nothing.

Most would say that even one instance is too much but of course the left sees nothing wrong in cheating. They know they have no other choice.

Most would say that even one instance is too much but of course the left sees nothing wrong in cheating. They know they have no other choice.

I certainly don't see millions of illegals voting illegally.

Oh as long as millions are not voting illegally or millions of ballots are not being changed you are fine with it. But when things don’t go the lefts way no matter whether they cheat or not. They go crazy, claim Russia and try every underhanded thing they can to erase the election because they can’t accept it.

Oh as long as millions are not voting illegally or millions of ballots are not being changed you are fine with it

Umm....yeah. You're not cool with a clean election?

You seem to have the problem with a clean election. You are the one that doesn’t mind cheating. But I understand that, the left knows the need to cheat and understand that they need to win any way they can

You seem to have the problem with a clean election. You are the one that doesn’t mind cheating. But I understand that, the left knows the need to cheat and understand that they need to win any way they can

I don't see a problem with the 1200 or so you cited. If that's all that could be found out of hundreds of millions of ballots, then any fraud that does exist is not game changing.

“But I guess you think cheating is perfectly okay.”
About as much as you think it’s not cheating COLLUDING with Russia, screwing up the mail delivery and lying every fking day of the week about the virus. Somehow, pretending that black and brown people should be discriminated agaisnt so your kkk friends can all gov a country with a white minority excusses supporting the biggest imbecile and traitor this country has ever known....is fine.,

Man are you still holding on to all those disproved conspiracy theories? Well I guess they don’t allow any thing but in China.

 

[Maxdeath]

You know, they claim that there is rampant voter fraud, but when it comes time to prove it, they can't. Voter fraud happens less than a tenth of one percent of the total vote, meaning it's not enough to worry about.

So you don’t mind fraud? You don’t worry about anyone changing your vote? You wouldn’t mind if your vote was thrown out?

 

[Cecilie1200]

You know, they claim that there is rampant voter fraud, but when it comes time to prove it, they can't. Voter fraud happens less than a tenth of one percent of the total vote, meaning it's not enough to worry about.

So you don’t mind fraud? You don’t worry about anyone changing your vote? You wouldn’t mind if your vote was thrown out?

That'll work out well for him if he buys into the Dems insane "universal mail in voting" scheme, since as things stand now, it's likely that a lot of votes simply won't count.

 

[Dagosa]

A distinction without a difference. You're assuming the voter rolls are not accurate and that any inaccuacies will end with fraud. IOW.....you're imagining a problem that you don't know exists.

No, we KNOW the voter registration rolls are wrong.

No, we KNOW the voter registration rolls are wrong

LOL...
No you don't. You imagine they are and that any inaccuracies result in fraud and that fraud is perpetrated by and for the benefit of Dems only.

You have nothing but dopey suppositions and paranoid delusions.

We have already seen the disaster that mail in voting can be. It has been tried and failed. There was even a news crew that tried it with fake ballots. In one instance 3% were lost in the mail, even though the news crew mailed them. In another instance almost all disappeared.
those wanting mail in voting obviously have never dealt with the post office or have a plan to cheat. Nothing like having votes disappear or having six ballots shoved into one mail box.

six ballots shoved into one mail box.
if those 6 ballots all had the same address then thats where they go...

Yeah right. In a single family apartment with only two people living there. Damn do you ever stop? You do realize that people move right or don’t they explain thing like that in Beijing?

well then the carrier will forward the ones who dont live there....dont you ever stop with your bullshit?...try making up more scenarios you are good at it....

So where does he forward them to if no forwarding address or they have died Kreskin?

they get returned to sender with an explanation .....you live here and i have to explain that to you?...geezus....

So your claim is every post office employee knows that the people listed on that ballot is living there? They know that any ballot that is addressed to a certain address is only for those at that address? When a piece of mail is returned it usually returned by the person at the address not by the postman. So If that person decides to fill out that ballot that is ok with you right? If the post office does not get your vote in in time to be counted that is fine with you? If the postman does not feel like completing their rounds that day your fine with that? If your ballot gets lost your fine with that?

So your claim is every post office employee knows that the people listed on that ballot is living there?
not every employee....the carrier of that route.....i knew every name on my route and if it was one i wasnt sure of, i put a question mark on it and let them tell me,if they didnt know they usually wrote "not here" on it and it would be returned to sender unknown.....
When a piece of mail is returned it usually returned by the person at the address not by the postman.
with political mail like ballots,federal law says if you are not sure you have to attempt delivery,which i described above.....if the person does what you think everyone does with mail that is not theirs that isnt on me, i did what i am obligated to do, i attempted it.....its up to the register of voters to keep up with their voter rolls....not the PO....
If the postman does not feel like completing their rounds that day your fine with that?
lol....it dont work that way.....you think this is like that guy on cheers?...we could not just say "im done for today i will do the rest of the route tomorrow."..when you are done with the route is when you come back to the office....if for some reason you cant get done,like a vehical break down,they will send carriers out to help you get it done......
If your ballot gets lost your fine with that?
if your ballot got lost it wasnt because of me,if i have it when i leave the office you will get it that day.....but if it isnt in my hands i have no control over it....once i deliver it i did my part....

So you think no one has every delivered mail to a wrong address? I have gotten mail many times in my box that was for someone that I have never heard of, for someone three blocks over.
So you have no problem if someone fills out two, three or more ballots?
So here is just one of many Postal carrier hoarded 40,000 pieces of undelivered mail
but it never happens right?
I take it you have never worked behind the counter at a post office nor have you ever had a letter or package mysteriously go missing from the time it is mailed by the time it is supposed to be delivered.

]I plan to. Vote by mail is OK for people that have to contend with long, long lines due all the closed polling places done away with by republicans to control the vote or people that worried of standing in long, long lines during a pandemic that has already killed over 171,000 Americans, just as vote by mail is used regularly by Donny himself. I vote early and at time of my convenience and have for years. I will mask, glove and shield or even wear a disposable protective suit if necessary to vote early, in person and make sure my vote for the Biden/Harris ticket counts to put an end to trump's subversion of our government.

No. Vote by mail is fine ONLY for those who medically cannot reach the polling place or who are truly out of town... Like the POTUS, who maintains a permanent residence in FL.

COVID-19 and long lines are NOT acceptable reasons. I will walk into my polling place with no mask or any other “protective” device other than my knife. Then I’ll go to the range and the dojo I train at before returning home to prepare for the Revolutionary Conservative Resistance.

If good enough for trump, who thinks nothing of jetting down to his home for golf, it is good enough for everybody that wants to vote that way, unless trump sabotages the mail just in time for election.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same.

You do understand that he is doing absentee ballot and not mass mailing? you seem to be under the impression that they are one and the same

LOL...
They're the same ballot and they're processed and counted in the exact same way. What do you imagine is different?

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

For one an absentee ballot is requested by a person. That person gives an address where to send it.
it is not mass mailed offsome outdated voter registration form.

A distinction without a difference. You're assuming the voter rolls are not accurate and that any inaccuacies will end with fraud. IOW.....you're imagining a problem that you don't know exists.

no what I am imagining is that millions of ballots will be lost, considered not eligible or otherwise not counted. Some will indeed create fraud with mail in ballots just has been done in the past. We have had people for years that have indeed been prosecuted for voter fraud. If you think that voter rolls are up to date you are seriously deluded.

no what I am imagining is that millions of ballots will be lost, considered not eligible or otherwise not counted. Some will indeed create fraud with mail in ballots just has been done in the past. We have had people for years that have indeed been prosecuted for voter fraud. If you think that voter rolls are up to date you are seriously deluded

Like I said. It's in your imagimation.

yeah in my imagination, that’s why it is written about by news organizations and shown in the news. Millions of mail-in ballots went missing in 2018: Report

yeah in my imagination

Yes. In your imagination.
Your "report" didn't identify a single instance of fraud.

So you want voter fraud? Voter Fraud Map: Election Fraud Database | The Heritage Foundation
theses are only the cases that have been prosecuted. Actual numbers are that are not caught or not prosecuted are higher

So you want voter fraud? Voter Fraud Map: Election Fraud Database | The Heritage Foundation
theses are only the cases that have been prosecuted. Actual numbers are that are not caught or not prosecuted are higher

LOL...
You just admitted and documented there is no fraud of consequence. Good job, loser.

I take it you need to have someone read for you. The web page I pointed you to, the very first word is a ” sampling” .
it is no where near complete. And you can bet that only some of the instances are never found and some that are found out are probably never prosecute.

take it you need to have someone read for you. The web page I pointed you to, the very first word is a ” sampling” .
it is no where near complete. And you can bet that only some of the instances are never found and some that are found out are probably never prosecute.

Even a number 10x what you posted would be inconsequential.

You still have nothing.

Most would say that even one instance is too much but of course the left sees nothing wrong in cheating. They know they have no other choice.

Most would say that even one instance is too much but of course the left sees nothing wrong in cheating. They know they have no other choice.

I certainly don't see millions of illegals voting illegally.

Oh as long as millions are not voting illegally or millions of ballots are not being changed you are fine with it. But when things don’t go the lefts way no matter whether they cheat or not. They go crazy, claim Russia and try every underhanded thing they can to erase the election because they can’t accept it.

Oh as long as millions are not voting illegally or millions of ballots are not being changed you are fine with it

Umm....yeah. You're not cool with a clean election?

You seem to have the problem with a clean election. You are the one that doesn’t mind cheating. But I understand that, the left knows the need to cheat and understand that they need to win any way they can

You seem to have the problem with a clean election. You are the one that doesn’t mind cheating. But I understand that, the left knows the need to cheat and understand that they need to win any way they can

I don't see a problem with the 1200 or so you cited. If that's all that could be found out of hundreds of millions of ballots, then any fraud that does exist is not game changing.

“But I guess you think cheating is perfectly okay.”
About as much as you think it’s not cheating COLLUDING with Russia, screwing up the mail delivery and lying every fking day of the week about the virus. Somehow, pretending that black and brown people should be discriminated agaisnt so your kkk friends can all gov a country with a white minority excusses supporting the biggest imbecile and traitor this country has ever known....is fine.,

Man are you still holding on to all those disproved conspiracy theories? Well I guess they don’t allow any thing but in China.

“Disproven” by Trump and lackey Barr. And, Only because his followers are ignorant. Everyone else with half a brain knows Trump is a Russian asset and Putin Butt boy. Trump is a traitor to the US constitution and our govt, in general. The gop in general is guilty by association and right at the door as well.

 

[Markle]

Voting by mail works. Just ask any military member who is deployed overseas.

Better check with USPS, they informed 46 states they can't guarantee ballots will be arrived on time.

USPS: Blockbuster Video in the Netflix era.

You are fond of telling everyone how your family served in the military. Wanna ask one of them how voting by mail works?

why dont you tell us how mail in voting is exactly the same as voting by absentee ballot !

Why don’t you tell us why it isn’t .
Tell us exactly how people steal ballots then vote with them.

You were asked how mail-in voting is exactly the same as voting absentee and you cannot. Why does that place the burden on anyone else?