Boy...14, shoots man to death...in Britain..

[2aguy]

But...they banned and confiscated guns....and then their gun crime went up 89% and their gun murder rate went up 104%.....and is still going up, along with their violent crime rate....London is now more violent than New York city.......

And which British gun control law kept this 14 year old from going to his school and murdering more people?

Dumb luck and a lack of follow through does not mean your gun control laws work....

Boy, 14, held over gunshot death of man killed 'during bullying chat'

 

[MyParentsAreProud]

Everyone knows that more guns equals less crime.

 

[BULLDOG]

The UK is doing it right. We should be more like them.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

The UK is doing it right. We should be more like them.

You're still here? We won't be going that way.

 

[2aguy]

The UK is doing it right. We should be more like them.

What are they doing right? They had cultural delay in the collapse of their social system because of World War 2...now that they have recovered, and their social system is creating young male sociaopaths at greater rates...their violent crime is going through the roof, as is their murder rate.........

We have about 1,200 innocent people murdered with guns each year.....the rest are criminals murdering other criminals...in a country of over 320 million people....the British are about to learn the hard lesson that taking guns away from normal people, is just going to get them murdered by criminals....

Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Daily Mail Online

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .




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Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

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Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

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He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

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Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

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Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

Violent crime on the rise in every corner of the country, figures suggest

But analysis of the figures force by force, showed the full extent of the problem, with only one constabulary, Nottinghamshire, recording a reduction in violent offences.

The vast majority of police forces actually witnessed double digit rises in violent crime, with Northumbria posting a 95 per cent increase year on year.

Of the other forces, Durham Police recorded a 73 per cent rise; West Yorkshire was up 48 per cent; Avon and Somerset 45 per cent; Dorset 39 per cent and Warwickshire 37 per cent.

Elsewhere Humberside, South Yorkshire, Staffordshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, Wiltshire and Dyfed Powys all saw violence rise by more than a quarter year on year.




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Two men stabbed dead within hours as violent crime soars in London

The shocking attacks come as new figures revealed crime overall in London is rising, with significant increases in cases of youth violence.


A total of 35 young people under the age of 25 have been murdered in the capital in the last 12 months, an 84 per cent rise on the same period last year.

The number of cases of serious youth violence - a measure of gang activity - also rose by 18 per cent.

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as well as a 16 per cent rise in the number of rapes.

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Gun crime rose by nearly 19 per cent and the number of shootings was up by 11 per cent to 338.

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London now more dangerous than New York City, crime stats suggest

While both London and New York have populations of around 8 million, figures suggest you are almost six times more likely to be burgled in the British capital than in the US city, and one and a half times more likely to fall victim to a robbery.

London has almost three times the number of reported rapes and while the murder rate in New York remains higher, the gap is narrowing dramatically.


The change in fortunes of the two global cities has been put down largely to the difference in tactics adopted by the two police forces.

Both Scotland Yard and the New York City Police Department (NYPD) have just over 30,000 officers each and budgets of around £3 billion a year.

But in the mid-1990s spiralling crime rates in New York - sparked by the crack cocaine epidemic - resulted in radical a new approach being adopted by the city's police department.

Under the leadership of Mayor Rudy Giuliani, and police commissioner, Bill Bratton, the NYPD introduced a zero tolerance approach to low level crime and flooded problem areas with patrols.

The force also put a huge amount of emphasis on community policing in order to build bridges between the police and members of the public.

As a result the murder plummeted from a high in 1990 of over 2,000 to a record low of 335 last year.

That figure is expected to fall even lower this year, and is currently in line to dip below 240.

 

[2aguy]

The UK is doing it right. We should be more like them.

Yeah...that school shooting incident....that is also a lie....if you actually track those down, they include gangs shooting at each other "near" schools, people committing suicide in school parking lots.....

The anti gunners always lie......

 

[rightwinger]

So children.....the lesson is....If you can't stop ALL gun crime, you shouldn't try to stop any

 

[MyParentsAreProud]

The UK is doing it right. We should be more like them.

In America gun free zones are the most gun violent.

 

[BULLDOG]

The UK is doing it right. We should be more like them.

Yeah...that school shooting incident....that is also a lie....if you actually track those down, they include gangs shooting at each other "near" schools, people committing suicide in school parking lots.....

The anti gunners always lie......

You can argue numbers all you want. We kill massively more per capita than they do. You can't see that?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

So children.....the lesson is....If you can't stop ALL gun crime, you shouldn't try to stop any

Kill gang and cartel members and jihadis upon detection. Stop some gun crime.

 

[BULLDOG]

The UK is doing it right. We should be more like them.

In America gun free zones are the most gun violent.

Proof?

 

[MyParentsAreProud]

Proof?

Column: Gun-free zones provide false sense of security

Preventing the next attack: Why gun-free zones don't work and combat profiling does

A Look at the Facts on Gun-Free Zones

 

[rightwinger]

Proof?

Column: Gun-free zones provide false sense of security

Preventing the next attack: Why gun-free zones don't work and combat profiling does

A Look at the Facts on Gun-Free Zones

Should a bar be a gun free zone?
How about a sporting event?

 

[The Irish Ram]

Our violent gun crimes have dropped by 50%. That decline was not due to confiscating our guns. Which means you need to look elsewhere for the cause of violence.
While you are at it, ponder why the UN is pushing for the disarming of Hemisphere 1....

 

[rightwinger]

Our violent gun crimes have dropped by 50%. That decline was not due to confiscating our guns. Which means you need to look elsewhere for the cause of violence.
Then ponder why the UN is pushing for the disarming of Hemisphere 1....

It was not due to confiscation or more guns

It was due to the end of drug wars in the 90s

 

[TheOldSchool]

But...they banned and confiscated guns....and then their gun crime went up 89% and their gun murder rate went up 104%.....and is still going up, along with their violent crime rate....London is now more violent than New York city.......

And which British gun control law kept this 14 year old from going to his school and murdering more people?

Dumb luck and a lack of follow through does not mean your gun control laws work....

Boy, 14, held over gunshot death of man killed 'during bullying chat'

What’s the murder rate in Britain?

 

[MyParentsAreProud]

Proof?

Column: Gun-free zones provide false sense of security

Preventing the next attack: Why gun-free zones don't work and combat profiling does

A Look at the Facts on Gun-Free Zones

Should a bar be a gun free zone?
How about a sporting event?

No place should be a gun free zone unless you want a mass shooting to take place there.

Mass gun shooting tend to only happen in gun free zones.

 

[BULLDOG]

Proof?

Column: Gun-free zones provide false sense of security

Preventing the next attack: Why gun-free zones don't work and combat profiling does

A Look at the Facts on Gun-Free Zones

Which of the three propaganda pieces do you think proves that "In America gun free zones are the most gun violent."?

 

[MyParentsAreProud]

Proof?

Column: Gun-free zones provide false sense of security

Preventing the next attack: Why gun-free zones don't work and combat profiling does

A Look at the Facts on Gun-Free Zones

Which of the three propaganda pieces do you think proves that "In America gun free zones are the most gun violent."?

I didn't post any propaganda pieces.

 

[BULLDOG]

Proof?

Column: Gun-free zones provide false sense of security

Preventing the next attack: Why gun-free zones don't work and combat profiling does

A Look at the Facts on Gun-Free Zones

Which of the three propaganda pieces do you think proves that "In America gun free zones are the most gun violent."?

I didn't post any propaganda pieces.

You didn't post any proof that "In America gun free zones are the most gun violent." either.