Boy in critical condition after being shot in London....but...gun control...right?

[2aguy]

Yep...another shooting on an island that has extreme gun control and banned guns....

Shooting a 16 year old.....british criminals are getting less picky about pulling those triggers on their illegal guns......

Boy, 16, fighting for his life after shooting in London

A 16-year-old boy is in a ‘critical’ condition after he was shot in Leyton, east London, early this morning.

The teenager was found by police at 3.10am suffering from a gunshot wound.

 

[Conservative65]

Yep...another shooting on an island that has extreme gun control and banned guns....

Boy, 16, fighting for his life after shooting in London

All these examples coming from places with strict gun laws or gun bans isn't presenting a strong case for the gun haters here.

 

[TheOldSchool]

What's London's murder rate again?

 

[2aguy]

What's London's murder rate again?

Whatever the criminals with guns decide they want it to be.....since they obviously have guns and are willing to shoot people when they want to.....

And what British gun control laws stopped these shootings?

 

[TheOldSchool]

What's London's murder rate again?

Whatever the criminals with guns decide they want it to be.....since they obviously have guns and are willing to shoot people when they want to.....

And what British gun control laws stopped these shootings?

They obviously all have guns? Nah because then the gun crime rate wouldn't be so much dramatically lower than it is here in the U.S. Unless they're really dumb and haven't realized that a gun is a criminal's best tool.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

What's London's murder rate again?

Whatever the criminals with guns decide they want it to be.....since they obviously have guns and are willing to shoot people when they want to.....

And what British gun control laws stopped these shootings?

They obviously all have guns? Nah because then the gun crime rate wouldn't be so much dramatically lower than it is here in the U.S. Unless they're really dumb and haven't realized that a gun is a criminal's best tool.

Oh, the UK had a lower crime rate than America? I'm sure that's quite the accomplishme- oh wait. The UK is just a little smaller than California and they have more than double their police force. Gee, wonder why the crime rate is lower.

United States UK size comparison

Australia tried the same thing. They banned assault weapons, the crime rate spiked, they started rapidly hiring more police and it started going down... except for sexual assault. Then the police force started decreasing in size and the crime rate started increasing. How strange that the police force and population effects the crime rate.

 

[Blackrook]

I don't carry a gun, but I'm a big guy and I live in a safe neighborhood, so I don't feel the need.

If I was a small man, or a woman, living in a high crime neighborhood, I would definitely want to carry a gun.

Ironically, the most dangerous cities tend to have the strictest laws against citizens carrying guns for self defense.

 

[JakeStarkey]

yet the shootings about 1/8th of ours when adjusted per capita so

you are full of crap as usual

run along

 

[TheOldSchool]

What's London's murder rate again?

Whatever the criminals with guns decide they want it to be.....since they obviously have guns and are willing to shoot people when they want to.....

And what British gun control laws stopped these shootings?

They obviously all have guns? Nah because then the gun crime rate wouldn't be so much dramatically lower than it is here in the U.S. Unless they're really dumb and haven't realized that a gun is a criminal's best tool.

Oh, the UK had a lower crime rate than America? I'm sure that's quite the accomplishme- oh wait. The UK is just a little smaller than California and they have more than double their police force. Gee, wonder why the crime rate is lower.

United States UK size comparison

Australia tried the same thing. They banned assault weapons, the crime rate spiked, they started rapidly hiring more police and it started going down... except for sexual assault. Then the police force started decreasing in size and the crime rate started increasing. How strange that the police force and population effects the crime rate.

Their violent crime rate is much higher. But somehow, that violence isn't reflected in the murder rate. Hmmm..... what variable is missing........ HMMMMMMMM

 

[2aguy]

What's London's murder rate again?

Whatever the criminals with guns decide they want it to be.....since they obviously have guns and are willing to shoot people when they want to.....

And what British gun control laws stopped these shootings?

They obviously all have guns? Nah because then the gun crime rate wouldn't be so much dramatically lower than it is here in the U.S. Unless they're really dumb and haven't realized that a gun is a criminal's best tool.

Oh, the UK had a lower crime rate than America? I'm sure that's quite the accomplishme- oh wait. The UK is just a little smaller than California and they have more than double their police force. Gee, wonder why the crime rate is lower.

United States UK size comparison

Australia tried the same thing. They banned assault weapons, the crime rate spiked, they started rapidly hiring more police and it started going down... except for sexual assault. Then the police force started decreasing in size and the crime rate started increasing. How strange that the police force and population effects the crime rate.

Their violent crime rate is much higher. But somehow, that violence isn't reflected in the murder rate. Hmmm..... what variable is missing........ HMMMMMMMM

Well...their criminals have guns...as was shown in post after post about their criminals having guns and the number of guns increasing on British streets, and gun crime going up......

So....they have guns...

they just don't have as much gun murder...so what is lacking? The will to murder other people in order to complete a crime....

there..solved that for you....

 

[TheOldSchool]

What's London's murder rate again?

Whatever the criminals with guns decide they want it to be.....since they obviously have guns and are willing to shoot people when they want to.....

And what British gun control laws stopped these shootings?

They obviously all have guns? Nah because then the gun crime rate wouldn't be so much dramatically lower than it is here in the U.S. Unless they're really dumb and haven't realized that a gun is a criminal's best tool.

Oh, the UK had a lower crime rate than America? I'm sure that's quite the accomplishme- oh wait. The UK is just a little smaller than California and they have more than double their police force. Gee, wonder why the crime rate is lower.

United States UK size comparison

Australia tried the same thing. They banned assault weapons, the crime rate spiked, they started rapidly hiring more police and it started going down... except for sexual assault. Then the police force started decreasing in size and the crime rate started increasing. How strange that the police force and population effects the crime rate.

Their violent crime rate is much higher. But somehow, that violence isn't reflected in the murder rate. Hmmm..... what variable is missing........ HMMMMMMMM

Well...their criminals have guns...as was shown in post after post about their criminals having guns and the number of guns increasing on British streets, and gun crime going up......

So....they have guns...

they just don't have as much gun murder...so what is lacking? The will to murder other people in order to complete a crime....

there..solved that for you....

A minority of their criminals have guns, and that's reflected by how their gun crime rate is a fraction of ours. It's why even though they are a very violent society, they don't kill each other as often. Because when the violence erupts, nobody has a gun.

 

[2aguy]

Whatever the criminals with guns decide they want it to be.....since they obviously have guns and are willing to shoot people when they want to.....

And what British gun control laws stopped these shootings?

They obviously all have guns? Nah because then the gun crime rate wouldn't be so much dramatically lower than it is here in the U.S. Unless they're really dumb and haven't realized that a gun is a criminal's best tool.

Oh, the UK had a lower crime rate than America? I'm sure that's quite the accomplishme- oh wait. The UK is just a little smaller than California and they have more than double their police force. Gee, wonder why the crime rate is lower.

United States UK size comparison

Australia tried the same thing. They banned assault weapons, the crime rate spiked, they started rapidly hiring more police and it started going down... except for sexual assault. Then the police force started decreasing in size and the crime rate started increasing. How strange that the police force and population effects the crime rate.

Their violent crime rate is much higher. But somehow, that violence isn't reflected in the murder rate. Hmmm..... what variable is missing........ HMMMMMMMM

Well...their criminals have guns...as was shown in post after post about their criminals having guns and the number of guns increasing on British streets, and gun crime going up......

So....they have guns...

they just don't have as much gun murder...so what is lacking? The will to murder other people in order to complete a crime....

there..solved that for you....

A minority of their criminals have guns, and that's reflected by how their gun crime rate is a fraction of ours. It's why even though they are a very violent society, they don't kill each other as often. Because when the violence erupts, nobody has a gun.

Nope....their criminals get guns when they want or need them...I have linked to the articles showing that criminals get the guns and use them.....

They don't kill each other as often because it is not part of their criminal culture to do so......just as it is not in the general culture of Japanese criminals.......

The violent gun crime rate went up 4% last year, they are now having to arm more police, and they are conducting armed patrols in high gun crime areas of Britain........so your belief about guns is again, wrong.

 

[2aguy]

What's London's murder rate again?

Whatever the criminals with guns decide they want it to be.....since they obviously have guns and are willing to shoot people when they want to.....

And what British gun control laws stopped these shootings?

They obviously all have guns? Nah because then the gun crime rate wouldn't be so much dramatically lower than it is here in the U.S. Unless they're really dumb and haven't realized that a gun is a criminal's best tool.

Oh, the UK had a lower crime rate than America? I'm sure that's quite the accomplishme- oh wait. The UK is just a little smaller than California and they have more than double their police force. Gee, wonder why the crime rate is lower.

United States UK size comparison

Australia tried the same thing. They banned assault weapons, the crime rate spiked, they started rapidly hiring more police and it started going down... except for sexual assault. Then the police force started decreasing in size and the crime rate started increasing. How strange that the police force and population effects the crime rate.

Their violent crime rate is much higher. But somehow, that violence isn't reflected in the murder rate. Hmmm..... what variable is missing........ HMMMMMMMM

and there are more guns hitting the streets in Britain.....they have been behind the times because of World War 2...but their criminals have been imported from other countries...to do the shooting and killing British people just won't do....

Rise in UK firearms trade may provide terrorists with weapons, say police

The Metropolitan police commissioner, Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, announced a crackdown after the increase in firearms supply was coupled with a spike in shooting incidents in the last three months in London.

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Hogan-Howe said there were more illegal guns on the streets and said the rise in shootings in the last three months was significant: “The fact that we’re seeing it across the country in the big cities probably indicates that we’re talking about more supply.” Nationally, there has been an increase of around 19% in firearms discharges since 2013-14, with London also experiencing roughly that level of increase.

 

[TheOldSchool]

They obviously all have guns? Nah because then the gun crime rate wouldn't be so much dramatically lower than it is here in the U.S. Unless they're really dumb and haven't realized that a gun is a criminal's best tool.

Oh, the UK had a lower crime rate than America? I'm sure that's quite the accomplishme- oh wait. The UK is just a little smaller than California and they have more than double their police force. Gee, wonder why the crime rate is lower.

United States UK size comparison

Australia tried the same thing. They banned assault weapons, the crime rate spiked, they started rapidly hiring more police and it started going down... except for sexual assault. Then the police force started decreasing in size and the crime rate started increasing. How strange that the police force and population effects the crime rate.

Their violent crime rate is much higher. But somehow, that violence isn't reflected in the murder rate. Hmmm..... what variable is missing........ HMMMMMMMM

Well...their criminals have guns...as was shown in post after post about their criminals having guns and the number of guns increasing on British streets, and gun crime going up......

So....they have guns...

they just don't have as much gun murder...so what is lacking? The will to murder other people in order to complete a crime....

there..solved that for you....

A minority of their criminals have guns, and that's reflected by how their gun crime rate is a fraction of ours. It's why even though they are a very violent society, they don't kill each other as often. Because when the violence erupts, nobody has a gun.

Nope....their criminals get guns when they want or need them...I have linked to the articles showing that criminals get the guns and use them.....

They don't kill each other as often because it is not part of their criminal culture to do so......just as it is not in the general culture of Japanese criminals.......

The violent gun crime rate went up 4% last year, they are now having to arm more police, and they are conducting armed patrols in high gun crime areas of Britain........so your belief about guns is again, wrong.

If those criminals already had guns, and just went out into the streets and decided to commit a crime, the murder rate would be much higher; because they are a violent society, and if they all had guns they'd be putting each other in coffins instead giving each other black eyes. Fortunately, the UK has gun control and is a society that frowns on people owning guns.

Our criminals don't want to go to jail for murder, they just easily got their hands on one of the 400 million+ guns in this country, things got crazy, and they murdered someone. That doesn't happen in the UK.

 

[2aguy]

Oh, the UK had a lower crime rate than America? I'm sure that's quite the accomplishme- oh wait. The UK is just a little smaller than California and they have more than double their police force. Gee, wonder why the crime rate is lower.

United States UK size comparison

Australia tried the same thing. They banned assault weapons, the crime rate spiked, they started rapidly hiring more police and it started going down... except for sexual assault. Then the police force started decreasing in size and the crime rate started increasing. How strange that the police force and population effects the crime rate.

Their violent crime rate is much higher. But somehow, that violence isn't reflected in the murder rate. Hmmm..... what variable is missing........ HMMMMMMMM

Well...their criminals have guns...as was shown in post after post about their criminals having guns and the number of guns increasing on British streets, and gun crime going up......

So....they have guns...

they just don't have as much gun murder...so what is lacking? The will to murder other people in order to complete a crime....

there..solved that for you....

A minority of their criminals have guns, and that's reflected by how their gun crime rate is a fraction of ours. It's why even though they are a very violent society, they don't kill each other as often. Because when the violence erupts, nobody has a gun.

Nope....their criminals get guns when they want or need them...I have linked to the articles showing that criminals get the guns and use them.....

They don't kill each other as often because it is not part of their criminal culture to do so......just as it is not in the general culture of Japanese criminals.......

The violent gun crime rate went up 4% last year, they are now having to arm more police, and they are conducting armed patrols in high gun crime areas of Britain........so your belief about guns is again, wrong.

If those criminals already had guns, and just went out into the streets and decided to commit a crime, the murder rate would be much higher; because they are a violent society, and if they all had guns they'd be putting each other in coffins instead giving each other black eyes. Fortunately, the UK has gun control and is a society that frowns on people owning guns.

Our criminals don't want to go to jail for murder, they just easily got their hands on one of the 400 million+ guns in this country, things got crazy, and they murdered someone. That doesn't happen in the UK.

Wrong.....they use guns against a passive and compliant victim population.........there was that one story where they put a hot clothes iron on the stomach of a woman they were robbing...and she was worried that she would get in trouble with the police......it is also against the law to fight back against a criminal in Britain...you can be the one arrested if you injure your attacker........

They feel no need to murder their victims.....a completely different criminal culture....

 

[2aguy]

Oh, the UK had a lower crime rate than America? I'm sure that's quite the accomplishme- oh wait. The UK is just a little smaller than California and they have more than double their police force. Gee, wonder why the crime rate is lower.

United States UK size comparison

Australia tried the same thing. They banned assault weapons, the crime rate spiked, they started rapidly hiring more police and it started going down... except for sexual assault. Then the police force started decreasing in size and the crime rate started increasing. How strange that the police force and population effects the crime rate.

Their violent crime rate is much higher. But somehow, that violence isn't reflected in the murder rate. Hmmm..... what variable is missing........ HMMMMMMMM

Well...their criminals have guns...as was shown in post after post about their criminals having guns and the number of guns increasing on British streets, and gun crime going up......

So....they have guns...

they just don't have as much gun murder...so what is lacking? The will to murder other people in order to complete a crime....

there..solved that for you....

A minority of their criminals have guns, and that's reflected by how their gun crime rate is a fraction of ours. It's why even though they are a very violent society, they don't kill each other as often. Because when the violence erupts, nobody has a gun.

Nope....their criminals get guns when they want or need them...I have linked to the articles showing that criminals get the guns and use them.....

They don't kill each other as often because it is not part of their criminal culture to do so......just as it is not in the general culture of Japanese criminals.......

The violent gun crime rate went up 4% last year, they are now having to arm more police, and they are conducting armed patrols in high gun crime areas of Britain........so your belief about guns is again, wrong.

If those criminals already had guns, and just went out into the streets and decided to commit a crime, the murder rate would be much higher; because they are a violent society, and if they all had guns they'd be putting each other in coffins instead giving each other black eyes. Fortunately, the UK has gun control and is a society that frowns on people owning guns.

Our criminals don't want to go to jail for murder, they just easily got their hands on one of the 400 million+ guns in this country, things got crazy, and they murdered someone. That doesn't happen in the UK.

This is one reason why British criminals don't have to commit murder with guns.....they have a population that will be arrested if they resist a criminal attack....

Myleene Klass warned by police after scaring off intruders with knife

The youths approached the kitchen window, before attempting to break into her garden shed, prompting Miss Klass to wave a kitchen knife to scare them away.

Miss Klass, 31, who was alone in her house in Potters Bar, Herts, with her two-year-old daughter, Ava, called the police. When they arrived at her house they informed her that she should not have used a knife to scare off the youths because carrying an "offensive weapon" – even in her own home – was illegal.

 

[idb]

Yep...another shooting on an island that has extreme gun control and banned guns....

Shooting a 16 year old.....british criminals are getting less picky about pulling those triggers on their illegal guns......

Boy, 16, fighting for his life after shooting in London

A 16-year-old boy is in a ‘critical’ condition after he was shot in Leyton, east London, early this morning.

The teenager was found by police at 3.10am suffering from a gunshot wound.

Could it be news for the simple fact that it's such a rare occurrence?
Hmmm...I wonder...

 

[TheOldSchool]

Their violent crime rate is much higher. But somehow, that violence isn't reflected in the murder rate. Hmmm..... what variable is missing........ HMMMMMMMM

Well...their criminals have guns...as was shown in post after post about their criminals having guns and the number of guns increasing on British streets, and gun crime going up......

So....they have guns...

they just don't have as much gun murder...so what is lacking? The will to murder other people in order to complete a crime....

there..solved that for you....

A minority of their criminals have guns, and that's reflected by how their gun crime rate is a fraction of ours. It's why even though they are a very violent society, they don't kill each other as often. Because when the violence erupts, nobody has a gun.

Nope....their criminals get guns when they want or need them...I have linked to the articles showing that criminals get the guns and use them.....

They don't kill each other as often because it is not part of their criminal culture to do so......just as it is not in the general culture of Japanese criminals.......

The violent gun crime rate went up 4% last year, they are now having to arm more police, and they are conducting armed patrols in high gun crime areas of Britain........so your belief about guns is again, wrong.

If those criminals already had guns, and just went out into the streets and decided to commit a crime, the murder rate would be much higher; because they are a violent society, and if they all had guns they'd be putting each other in coffins instead giving each other black eyes. Fortunately, the UK has gun control and is a society that frowns on people owning guns.

Our criminals don't want to go to jail for murder, they just easily got their hands on one of the 400 million+ guns in this country, things got crazy, and they murdered someone. That doesn't happen in the UK.

Wrong.....they use guns against a passive and compliant victim population.........there was that one story where they put a hot clothes iron on the stomach of a woman they were robbing...and she was worried that she would get in trouble with the police......it is also against the law to fight back against a criminal in Britain...you can be the one arrested if you injure your attacker........

They feel no need to murder their victims.....a completely different criminal culture....

Neither do the majority of American criminals. But they already had a gun anyways because they're scattered around everywhere, and they brought it along on the crime because it vastly increases their chance of success, and people just happened to get murdered along the way because crime usually gets messy. Unless you think American criminals want to be hunted down and arrested for murder?

Anyways that's what happens in a gun-slinging, gun-worshiping culture.

 

[2aguy]

Well...their criminals have guns...as was shown in post after post about their criminals having guns and the number of guns increasing on British streets, and gun crime going up......

So....they have guns...

they just don't have as much gun murder...so what is lacking? The will to murder other people in order to complete a crime....

there..solved that for you....

A minority of their criminals have guns, and that's reflected by how their gun crime rate is a fraction of ours. It's why even though they are a very violent society, they don't kill each other as often. Because when the violence erupts, nobody has a gun.

Nope....their criminals get guns when they want or need them...I have linked to the articles showing that criminals get the guns and use them.....

They don't kill each other as often because it is not part of their criminal culture to do so......just as it is not in the general culture of Japanese criminals.......

The violent gun crime rate went up 4% last year, they are now having to arm more police, and they are conducting armed patrols in high gun crime areas of Britain........so your belief about guns is again, wrong.

If those criminals already had guns, and just went out into the streets and decided to commit a crime, the murder rate would be much higher; because they are a violent society, and if they all had guns they'd be putting each other in coffins instead giving each other black eyes. Fortunately, the UK has gun control and is a society that frowns on people owning guns.

Our criminals don't want to go to jail for murder, they just easily got their hands on one of the 400 million+ guns in this country, things got crazy, and they murdered someone. That doesn't happen in the UK.

Wrong.....they use guns against a passive and compliant victim population.........there was that one story where they put a hot clothes iron on the stomach of a woman they were robbing...and she was worried that she would get in trouble with the police......it is also against the law to fight back against a criminal in Britain...you can be the one arrested if you injure your attacker........

They feel no need to murder their victims.....a completely different criminal culture....

Neither do the majority of American criminals. But they already had a gun anyways because they're scattered around everywhere, and they brought it along on the crime because it vastly increases their chance of success, and people just happened to get murdered along the way because crime usually gets messy. Unless you think American criminals want to be hunted down and arrested for murder?

Anyways that's what happens in a gun-slinging, gun-worshiping culture.

American criminals murder 9 year old boys to get revenge on the boys gang banger father.........murder has become easy for inner city criminals in the United States..and it is getting easier in Europe....

 

[TheOldSchool]

Their violent crime rate is much higher. But somehow, that violence isn't reflected in the murder rate. Hmmm..... what variable is missing........ HMMMMMMMM

Well...their criminals have guns...as was shown in post after post about their criminals having guns and the number of guns increasing on British streets, and gun crime going up......

So....they have guns...

they just don't have as much gun murder...so what is lacking? The will to murder other people in order to complete a crime....

there..solved that for you....

A minority of their criminals have guns, and that's reflected by how their gun crime rate is a fraction of ours. It's why even though they are a very violent society, they don't kill each other as often. Because when the violence erupts, nobody has a gun.

Nope....their criminals get guns when they want or need them...I have linked to the articles showing that criminals get the guns and use them.....

They don't kill each other as often because it is not part of their criminal culture to do so......just as it is not in the general culture of Japanese criminals.......

The violent gun crime rate went up 4% last year, they are now having to arm more police, and they are conducting armed patrols in high gun crime areas of Britain........so your belief about guns is again, wrong.

If those criminals already had guns, and just went out into the streets and decided to commit a crime, the murder rate would be much higher; because they are a violent society, and if they all had guns they'd be putting each other in coffins instead giving each other black eyes. Fortunately, the UK has gun control and is a society that frowns on people owning guns.

Our criminals don't want to go to jail for murder, they just easily got their hands on one of the 400 million+ guns in this country, things got crazy, and they murdered someone. That doesn't happen in the UK.

This is one reason why British criminals don't have to commit murder with guns.....they have a population that will be arrested if they resist a criminal attack....

Myleene Klass warned by police after scaring off intruders with knife

The youths approached the kitchen window, before attempting to break into her garden shed, prompting Miss Klass to wave a kitchen knife to scare them away.

Miss Klass, 31, who was alone in her house in Potters Bar, Herts, with her two-year-old daughter, Ava, called the police. When they arrived at her house they informed her that she should not have used a knife to scare off the youths because carrying an "offensive weapon" – even in her own home – was illegal.

So now you're suggesting that banning resisting criminals will lead to a lower murder rate?