Boycott Israel

[RoccoR]

RE: Boycott Israel
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

What!

Remember that the original claim was: → "Why do the Palestinians have to define or redefine their borders. They have had undisputed, international borders since 1924?" As previously stated as a comment-in-response, "There was a legal entity called Palestine that was under the exclusive control by the British High Commissioner."

That does not refute my premise. The British had no authority to change Palestine's international borders and they did not.

(COMMENT)

Anything the British can create, they can Alter, Fold, Spindle or Mutilate, partition, and rip apart. Remember: the Allied Powers: have agreed, to entrust to a Mandatory the administration of the territory of Palestine, which formerly belonged to the Turkish Empire, within such boundaries as may be fixed by them;

(REMEMBER)

The Treaty of Lausanne essentially said that Turkey renounces all rights and title to these territories and the future of these territories being settled or to be settled by the parties concerned (ie the Allied Powers). It would be interesting to hear from you just who you think had the authority?


Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Boycott Israel
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

You are pulling one of those blind arguments by → "assertion" that you pull quite frequently.

Holy obfuscation, Batman!
How about refuting anything in my post?

(COMMENT)

You pretend that someone does not refute your posting, when in fact each key point was answered directly. This is a demonstration of being Blind to Answer or Comment. Each point was marked by a "specific" comment-in-response.

You are exhibiting the symptoms of someone who does not acknowledge the truth of a concept or proposition that is supported by the historical evidence to the "contrary." The facts, as I have presented them, dispute or refute your claim.

You exhibit "denialism" is a person's choice to deny reality as a way to avoid a psychologically uncomfortable truth.

There was no State of Palestine at all.

Unsubstantiated Israeli talking point.

(COMMENT)

√ You periodically reply using this "Israeli Talking Point" gimmick; as if a topic that invites discussion or argument (a "Talking Point") of any kind is invalid. (One can only wonder just where you went to school.)

√ I have provided independent (of Israel) documentation (Memorandum "A") that defined the territory as a "legal entity;" and that as of 25 February 1948 "Palestine" was a "legal entity" and "not a sovereign state."

legal entity. (18c) A body, other than a natural person, that can function legally, sue or be sued, and make decisions through agents.• A typical example is a corporation. (Black's Law Dictionary)

See Hall, A Treatise on International Law, pp. 82--83. See also Oppenheim, International Law, p. 116. ‘For every State that is not already but wants to be, a member, recognition is therefore necessary. A State is and becomes an International Person through recognition, only and exclusively.’ (SOURCE: Colonialism in Nineteenth-Century International Law. pp 75)
​

Remember that the original claim was: → "Why do the Palestinians have to define or redefine their borders. They have had undisputed, international borders since 1924?" As previously stated as a comment-in-response, "There was a legal entity called Palestine that was under the exclusive control by the British High Commissioner."

Documentation has been rendered. In support of the documentation is the 1924 Treaty wherein, Turkey relinquished the entirety of the territory.

You just cannot get any more real than that..


Most Respectfully,
R

Remember that the original claim was: → "Why do the Palestinians have to define or redefine their borders. They have had undisputed, international borders since 1924?" As previously stated as a comment-in-response, "There was a legal entity called Palestine that was under the exclusive control by the British High Commissioner."

That does not refute my premise. The British had no authority to change Palestine's international borders and they did not.

Except that they did:

That division was in 1922. They did not have international borders until 1924.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Boycott Israel
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

You are pulling one of those blind arguments by → "assertion" that you pull quite frequently.

Holy obfuscation, Batman!
How about refuting anything in my post?

(COMMENT)

You pretend that someone does not refute your posting, when in fact each key point was answered directly. This is a demonstration of being Blind to Answer or Comment. Each point was marked by a "specific" comment-in-response.

You are exhibiting the symptoms of someone who does not acknowledge the truth of a concept or proposition that is supported by the historical evidence to the "contrary." The facts, as I have presented them, dispute or refute your claim.

You exhibit "denialism" is a person's choice to deny reality as a way to avoid a psychologically uncomfortable truth.

There was no State of Palestine at all.

Unsubstantiated Israeli talking point.

(COMMENT)

√ You periodically reply using this "Israeli Talking Point" gimmick; as if a topic that invites discussion or argument (a "Talking Point") of any kind is invalid. (One can only wonder just where you went to school.)

√ I have provided independent (of Israel) documentation (Memorandum "A") that defined the territory as a "legal entity;" and that as of 25 February 1948 "Palestine" was a "legal entity" and "not a sovereign state."

legal entity. (18c) A body, other than a natural person, that can function legally, sue or be sued, and make decisions through agents.• A typical example is a corporation. (Black's Law Dictionary)

See Hall, A Treatise on International Law, pp. 82--83. See also Oppenheim, International Law, p. 116. ‘For every State that is not already but wants to be, a member, recognition is therefore necessary. A State is and becomes an International Person through recognition, only and exclusively.’ (SOURCE: Colonialism in Nineteenth-Century International Law. pp 75)
​

Remember that the original claim was: → "Why do the Palestinians have to define or redefine their borders. They have had undisputed, international borders since 1924?" As previously stated as a comment-in-response, "There was a legal entity called Palestine that was under the exclusive control by the British High Commissioner."

Documentation has been rendered. In support of the documentation is the 1924 Treaty wherein, Turkey relinquished the entirety of the territory.

You just cannot get any more real than that..


Most Respectfully,
R

Remember that the original claim was: → "Why do the Palestinians have to define or redefine their borders. They have had undisputed, international borders since 1924?" As previously stated as a comment-in-response, "There was a legal entity called Palestine that was under the exclusive control by the British High Commissioner."

That does not refute my premise. The British had no authority to change Palestine's international borders and they did not.

Except that they did:

That division was in 1922. They did not have international borders until 1924.

“They” being the Arabs-Moslems who magically became citizens of the “Magical Kingdom of Disneyland Pally’land” which was invented by the Treaty of Lausanne, right?

Remarkable that you still press that nonsense.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Boycott Israel
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Again!

That division was in 1922. They did not have international borders until 1924.

(COMMENT)

Well, if I implied a date --- it would be 1924. But in reality, the boundaries of which the Mandate for Palestine applied were the same in 1924 as they were in 1922 and the same as far back as 1920 (with minor adjustments when the administration of the Occupied Enemy Territory ended).

The template on the Mandate for Palestine was drawn up in 1920 at the San Remo Convention. The Mandate was adopted by the League of Nations on 12 August 1922 and went into effect on 29 September 1923. It established British authority over a large expanse of the Levant (the region that comprises all the territory from the Mediterranean in the East to the frontier of Persia in the West). The Mandate also gave Britain the responsibility for creating a Jewish national homeland in the territory.

What do you have to support your claim?

The Reminder in Posting #7581 refers to the Treaty of Lausanne concluded in 1923 (the treaty went into force on 6 August 1924, when the instruments of ratification were officially deposited in Paris). In that Treaty, while the name of Palestine is not specifically mentioned, one of the territories mentioned includes that from the Mediterranean to the frontier of Persia and the frontier of Turkey as described in Article 3. Essentially, the territory considered covered by the Mandate for Palestine was included in the Article portion of the Levant.


Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Boycott Israel
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

You are pulling one of those blind arguments by → "assertion" that you pull quite frequently.

Holy obfuscation, Batman!
How about refuting anything in my post?

(COMMENT)

You pretend that someone does not refute your posting, when in fact each key point was answered directly. This is a demonstration of being Blind to Answer or Comment. Each point was marked by a "specific" comment-in-response.

You are exhibiting the symptoms of someone who does not acknowledge the truth of a concept or proposition that is supported by the historical evidence to the "contrary." The facts, as I have presented them, dispute or refute your claim.

You exhibit "denialism" is a person's choice to deny reality as a way to avoid a psychologically uncomfortable truth.

There was no State of Palestine at all.

Unsubstantiated Israeli talking point.

(COMMENT)

√ You periodically reply using this "Israeli Talking Point" gimmick; as if a topic that invites discussion or argument (a "Talking Point") of any kind is invalid. (One can only wonder just where you went to school.)

√ I have provided independent (of Israel) documentation (Memorandum "A") that defined the territory as a "legal entity;" and that as of 25 February 1948 "Palestine" was a "legal entity" and "not a sovereign state."

legal entity. (18c) A body, other than a natural person, that can function legally, sue or be sued, and make decisions through agents.• A typical example is a corporation. (Black's Law Dictionary)

See Hall, A Treatise on International Law, pp. 82--83. See also Oppenheim, International Law, p. 116. ‘For every State that is not already but wants to be, a member, recognition is therefore necessary. A State is and becomes an International Person through recognition, only and exclusively.’ (SOURCE: Colonialism in Nineteenth-Century International Law. pp 75)
​

Remember that the original claim was: → "Why do the Palestinians have to define or redefine their borders. They have had undisputed, international borders since 1924?" As previously stated as a comment-in-response, "There was a legal entity called Palestine that was under the exclusive control by the British High Commissioner."

Documentation has been rendered. In support of the documentation is the 1924 Treaty wherein, Turkey relinquished the entirety of the territory.

You just cannot get any more real than that..


Most Respectfully,
R

√ I have provided independent (of Israel) documentation (Memorandum "A") that defined the territory as a "legal entity;" and that as of 25 February 1948 "Palestine" was a "legal entity" and "not a sovereign state."

Defined by the same people who prevented Palestinian self government for three decades. When Britain changed from a military occupation to a Mandate, for them, it was merely a name change. They still ruled Palestine with military force. And, none of the provisions in article 22 of the LoN Covenant were followed.

At that time Britain was handing Palestine over to be a trust territory of the UN. It was a non self governing territory. The UN dropped the ball and that transfer never happened.

Palestine was considered a state all during the Mandate period. A LoN arbitration found that Transjordan and Palestine were newly created states according to post war treaties.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Boycott Israel
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Again!

That division was in 1922. They did not have international borders until 1924.

(COMMENT)

Well, if I implied a date --- it would be 1924. But in reality, the boundaries of which the Mandate for Palestine applied were the same in 1924 as they were in 1922 and the same as far back as 1920 (with minor adjustments when the administration of the Occupied Enemy Territory ended).

The template on the Mandate for Palestine was drawn up in 1920 at the San Remo Convention. The Mandate was adopted by the League of Nations on 12 August 1922 and went into effect on 29 September 1923. It established British authority over a large expanse of the Levant (the region that comprises all the territory from the Mediterranean in the East to the frontier of Persia in the West). The Mandate also gave Britain the responsibility for creating a Jewish national homeland in the territory.

What do you have to support your claim?

The Reminder in Posting #7581 refers to the Treaty of Lausanne concluded in 1923 (the treaty went into force on 6 August 1924, when the instruments of ratification were officially deposited in Paris). In that Treaty, while the name of Palestine is not specifically mentioned, one of the territories mentioned includes that from the Mediterranean to the frontier of Persia and the frontier of Turkey as described in Article 3. Essentially, the territory considered covered by the Mandate for Palestine was included in the Article portion of the Levant.


Most Respectfully,
R

Britain received a Mandate for Iraq and a Mandate for Palestine that included Transjordan. In article 25 of the Mandate there was a provision to split the Mandate into Transjordan and Palestine. This happened on September 16, 1922 establishing Palestine's final international border. The Mandate went into effect on 29 September 1923 about 3 months after the signing of the Treaty of Lausanne. Palestine had to exist before the Mandate for Palestine could commence.

The plan for the Jewish homeland was for immigrating Jew to obtain Palestinians citizenship and live along side of the existing Palestinian citizens. There was no intent in creating a separate Jewish state.

The creation of Israel was a unilateral military conquest of Palestine that had nothing to do with the Mandate or resolution 181.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Boycott Israel
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Again!

That division was in 1922. They did not have international borders until 1924.

(COMMENT)

Well, if I implied a date --- it would be 1924. But in reality, the boundaries of which the Mandate for Palestine applied were the same in 1924 as they were in 1922 and the same as far back as 1920 (with minor adjustments when the administration of the Occupied Enemy Territory ended).

The template on the Mandate for Palestine was drawn up in 1920 at the San Remo Convention. The Mandate was adopted by the League of Nations on 12 August 1922 and went into effect on 29 September 1923. It established British authority over a large expanse of the Levant (the region that comprises all the territory from the Mediterranean in the East to the frontier of Persia in the West). The Mandate also gave Britain the responsibility for creating a Jewish national homeland in the territory.

What do you have to support your claim?

The Reminder in Posting #7581 refers to the Treaty of Lausanne concluded in 1923 (the treaty went into force on 6 August 1924, when the instruments of ratification were officially deposited in Paris). In that Treaty, while the name of Palestine is not specifically mentioned, one of the territories mentioned includes that from the Mediterranean to the frontier of Persia and the frontier of Turkey as described in Article 3. Essentially, the territory considered covered by the Mandate for Palestine was included in the Article portion of the Levant.


Most Respectfully,
R

Britain received a Mandate for Iraq and a Mandate for Palestine that included Transjordan. In article 25 of the Mandate there was a provision to split the Mandate into Transjordan and Palestine. This happened on September 16, 1922 establishing Palestine's final international border. The Mandate went into effect on 29 September 1923 about 3 months after the signing of the Treaty of Lausanne. Palestine had to exist before the Mandate for Palestine could commence.

The plan for the Jewish homeland was for immigrating Jew to obtain Palestinians citizenship and live along side of the existing Palestinian citizens. There was no intent in creating a separate Jewish state.

The creation of Israel was a unilateral military conquest of Palestine that had nothing to do with the Mandate or resolution 181.

There were never existing Pal'istanian citizens. Your invention of a "country of Pal'istan" that never existed and inhabited by citizens who never existed in that imaginary "country" is laughable.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Boycott Israel
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Again!

That division was in 1922. They did not have international borders until 1924.

(COMMENT)

Well, if I implied a date --- it would be 1924. But in reality, the boundaries of which the Mandate for Palestine applied were the same in 1924 as they were in 1922 and the same as far back as 1920 (with minor adjustments when the administration of the Occupied Enemy Territory ended).

The template on the Mandate for Palestine was drawn up in 1920 at the San Remo Convention. The Mandate was adopted by the League of Nations on 12 August 1922 and went into effect on 29 September 1923. It established British authority over a large expanse of the Levant (the region that comprises all the territory from the Mediterranean in the East to the frontier of Persia in the West). The Mandate also gave Britain the responsibility for creating a Jewish national homeland in the territory.

What do you have to support your claim?

The Reminder in Posting #7581 refers to the Treaty of Lausanne concluded in 1923 (the treaty went into force on 6 August 1924, when the instruments of ratification were officially deposited in Paris). In that Treaty, while the name of Palestine is not specifically mentioned, one of the territories mentioned includes that from the Mediterranean to the frontier of Persia and the frontier of Turkey as described in Article 3. Essentially, the territory considered covered by the Mandate for Palestine was included in the Article portion of the Levant.


Most Respectfully,
R

Britain received a Mandate for Iraq and a Mandate for Palestine that included Transjordan. In article 25 of the Mandate there was a provision to split the Mandate into Transjordan and Palestine. This happened on September 16, 1922 establishing Palestine's final international border. The Mandate went into effect on 29 September 1923 about 3 months after the signing of the Treaty of Lausanne. Palestine had to exist before the Mandate for Palestine could commence.

The plan for the Jewish homeland was for immigrating Jew to obtain Palestinians citizenship and live along side of the existing Palestinian citizens. There was no intent in creating a separate Jewish state.

The creation of Israel was a unilateral military conquest of Palestine that had nothing to do with the Mandate or resolution 181.

The "country of Pal'istan" invented by the Treaty of Lausanne?

There is no mention of a "country of Pal'istan" in the Treaty.

Why are you trying to re-write history?

 

[Hollie]

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Boycott Israel
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Again!

That division was in 1922. They did not have international borders until 1924.

(COMMENT)

Well, if I implied a date --- it would be 1924. But in reality, the boundaries of which the Mandate for Palestine applied were the same in 1924 as they were in 1922 and the same as far back as 1920 (with minor adjustments when the administration of the Occupied Enemy Territory ended).

The template on the Mandate for Palestine was drawn up in 1920 at the San Remo Convention. The Mandate was adopted by the League of Nations on 12 August 1922 and went into effect on 29 September 1923. It established British authority over a large expanse of the Levant (the region that comprises all the territory from the Mediterranean in the East to the frontier of Persia in the West). The Mandate also gave Britain the responsibility for creating a Jewish national homeland in the territory.

What do you have to support your claim?

The Reminder in Posting #7581 refers to the Treaty of Lausanne concluded in 1923 (the treaty went into force on 6 August 1924, when the instruments of ratification were officially deposited in Paris). In that Treaty, while the name of Palestine is not specifically mentioned, one of the territories mentioned includes that from the Mediterranean to the frontier of Persia and the frontier of Turkey as described in Article 3. Essentially, the territory considered covered by the Mandate for Palestine was included in the Article portion of the Levant.


Most Respectfully,
R

Britain received a Mandate for Iraq and a Mandate for Palestine that included Transjordan. In article 25 of the Mandate there was a provision to split the Mandate into Transjordan and Palestine. This happened on September 16, 1922 establishing Palestine's final international border. The Mandate went into effect on 29 September 1923 about 3 months after the signing of the Treaty of Lausanne. Palestine had to exist before the Mandate for Palestine could commence.

The plan for the Jewish homeland was for immigrating Jew to obtain Palestinians citizenship and live along side of the existing Palestinian citizens. There was no intent in creating a separate Jewish state.

The creation of Israel was a unilateral military conquest of Palestine that had nothing to do with the Mandate or resolution 181.

There were never existing Pal'istanian citizens. Your invention of a "country of Pal'istan" that never existed and inhabited by citizens who never existed in that imaginary "country" is laughable.

Link?

Why do you post here when you know so little?

 

[ForeverYoung436]

RE: Boycott Israel
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Again!

That division was in 1922. They did not have international borders until 1924.

(COMMENT)

Well, if I implied a date --- it would be 1924. But in reality, the boundaries of which the Mandate for Palestine applied were the same in 1924 as they were in 1922 and the same as far back as 1920 (with minor adjustments when the administration of the Occupied Enemy Territory ended).

The template on the Mandate for Palestine was drawn up in 1920 at the San Remo Convention. The Mandate was adopted by the League of Nations on 12 August 1922 and went into effect on 29 September 1923. It established British authority over a large expanse of the Levant (the region that comprises all the territory from the Mediterranean in the East to the frontier of Persia in the West). The Mandate also gave Britain the responsibility for creating a Jewish national homeland in the territory.

What do you have to support your claim?

The Reminder in Posting #7581 refers to the Treaty of Lausanne concluded in 1923 (the treaty went into force on 6 August 1924, when the instruments of ratification were officially deposited in Paris). In that Treaty, while the name of Palestine is not specifically mentioned, one of the territories mentioned includes that from the Mediterranean to the frontier of Persia and the frontier of Turkey as described in Article 3. Essentially, the territory considered covered by the Mandate for Palestine was included in the Article portion of the Levant.


Most Respectfully,
R

Britain received a Mandate for Iraq and a Mandate for Palestine that included Transjordan. In article 25 of the Mandate there was a provision to split the Mandate into Transjordan and Palestine. This happened on September 16, 1922 establishing Palestine's final international border. The Mandate went into effect on 29 September 1923 about 3 months after the signing of the Treaty of Lausanne. Palestine had to exist before the Mandate for Palestine could commence.

The plan for the Jewish homeland was for immigrating Jew to obtain Palestinians citizenship and live along side of the existing Palestinian citizens. There was no intent in creating a separate Jewish state.

The creation of Israel was a unilateral military conquest of Palestine that had nothing to do with the Mandate or resolution 181.

Meanwhile, my relatives in Israel are leading productive lives as doctors, social workers, architects and teachers, while you keep on debating about the 1920's.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Boycott Israel
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Again!

That division was in 1922. They did not have international borders until 1924.

(COMMENT)

Well, if I implied a date --- it would be 1924. But in reality, the boundaries of which the Mandate for Palestine applied were the same in 1924 as they were in 1922 and the same as far back as 1920 (with minor adjustments when the administration of the Occupied Enemy Territory ended).

The template on the Mandate for Palestine was drawn up in 1920 at the San Remo Convention. The Mandate was adopted by the League of Nations on 12 August 1922 and went into effect on 29 September 1923. It established British authority over a large expanse of the Levant (the region that comprises all the territory from the Mediterranean in the East to the frontier of Persia in the West). The Mandate also gave Britain the responsibility for creating a Jewish national homeland in the territory.

What do you have to support your claim?

The Reminder in Posting #7581 refers to the Treaty of Lausanne concluded in 1923 (the treaty went into force on 6 August 1924, when the instruments of ratification were officially deposited in Paris). In that Treaty, while the name of Palestine is not specifically mentioned, one of the territories mentioned includes that from the Mediterranean to the frontier of Persia and the frontier of Turkey as described in Article 3. Essentially, the territory considered covered by the Mandate for Palestine was included in the Article portion of the Levant.


Most Respectfully,
R

Britain received a Mandate for Iraq and a Mandate for Palestine that included Transjordan. In article 25 of the Mandate there was a provision to split the Mandate into Transjordan and Palestine. This happened on September 16, 1922 establishing Palestine's final international border. The Mandate went into effect on 29 September 1923 about 3 months after the signing of the Treaty of Lausanne. Palestine had to exist before the Mandate for Palestine could commence.

The plan for the Jewish homeland was for immigrating Jew to obtain Palestinians citizenship and live along side of the existing Palestinian citizens. There was no intent in creating a separate Jewish state.

The creation of Israel was a unilateral military conquest of Palestine that had nothing to do with the Mandate or resolution 181.

Meanwhile, my relatives in Israel are leading productive lives as doctors, social workers, architects and teachers, while you keep on debating about the 1920's.

The Palestinians who are not under Israel's boot are quite successful.

Nice deflection though.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Boycott Israel
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Again!

That division was in 1922. They did not have international borders until 1924.

(COMMENT)

Well, if I implied a date --- it would be 1924. But in reality, the boundaries of which the Mandate for Palestine applied were the same in 1924 as they were in 1922 and the same as far back as 1920 (with minor adjustments when the administration of the Occupied Enemy Territory ended).

The template on the Mandate for Palestine was drawn up in 1920 at the San Remo Convention. The Mandate was adopted by the League of Nations on 12 August 1922 and went into effect on 29 September 1923. It established British authority over a large expanse of the Levant (the region that comprises all the territory from the Mediterranean in the East to the frontier of Persia in the West). The Mandate also gave Britain the responsibility for creating a Jewish national homeland in the territory.

What do you have to support your claim?

The Reminder in Posting #7581 refers to the Treaty of Lausanne concluded in 1923 (the treaty went into force on 6 August 1924, when the instruments of ratification were officially deposited in Paris). In that Treaty, while the name of Palestine is not specifically mentioned, one of the territories mentioned includes that from the Mediterranean to the frontier of Persia and the frontier of Turkey as described in Article 3. Essentially, the territory considered covered by the Mandate for Palestine was included in the Article portion of the Levant.


Most Respectfully,
R

Britain received a Mandate for Iraq and a Mandate for Palestine that included Transjordan. In article 25 of the Mandate there was a provision to split the Mandate into Transjordan and Palestine. This happened on September 16, 1922 establishing Palestine's final international border. The Mandate went into effect on 29 September 1923 about 3 months after the signing of the Treaty of Lausanne. Palestine had to exist before the Mandate for Palestine could commence.

The plan for the Jewish homeland was for immigrating Jew to obtain Palestinians citizenship and live along side of the existing Palestinian citizens. There was no intent in creating a separate Jewish state.

The creation of Israel was a unilateral military conquest of Palestine that had nothing to do with the Mandate or resolution 181.

Meanwhile, my relatives in Israel are leading productive lives as doctors, social workers, architects and teachers, while you keep on debating about the 1920's.

The Palestinians who are not under Israel's boot are quite successful.

Nice deflection though.

The Arabs-Moslems can't pay their electric bill in spite of the welfare payments they receive..

You have an odd definition of successful.

 

[Hollie]

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Boycott Israel
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Again!

That division was in 1922. They did not have international borders until 1924.

(COMMENT)

Well, if I implied a date --- it would be 1924. But in reality, the boundaries of which the Mandate for Palestine applied were the same in 1924 as they were in 1922 and the same as far back as 1920 (with minor adjustments when the administration of the Occupied Enemy Territory ended).

The template on the Mandate for Palestine was drawn up in 1920 at the San Remo Convention. The Mandate was adopted by the League of Nations on 12 August 1922 and went into effect on 29 September 1923. It established British authority over a large expanse of the Levant (the region that comprises all the territory from the Mediterranean in the East to the frontier of Persia in the West). The Mandate also gave Britain the responsibility for creating a Jewish national homeland in the territory.

What do you have to support your claim?

The Reminder in Posting #7581 refers to the Treaty of Lausanne concluded in 1923 (the treaty went into force on 6 August 1924, when the instruments of ratification were officially deposited in Paris). In that Treaty, while the name of Palestine is not specifically mentioned, one of the territories mentioned includes that from the Mediterranean to the frontier of Persia and the frontier of Turkey as described in Article 3. Essentially, the territory considered covered by the Mandate for Palestine was included in the Article portion of the Levant.


Most Respectfully,
R

Britain received a Mandate for Iraq and a Mandate for Palestine that included Transjordan. In article 25 of the Mandate there was a provision to split the Mandate into Transjordan and Palestine. This happened on September 16, 1922 establishing Palestine's final international border. The Mandate went into effect on 29 September 1923 about 3 months after the signing of the Treaty of Lausanne. Palestine had to exist before the Mandate for Palestine could commence.

The plan for the Jewish homeland was for immigrating Jew to obtain Palestinians citizenship and live along side of the existing Palestinian citizens. There was no intent in creating a separate Jewish state.

The creation of Israel was a unilateral military conquest of Palestine that had nothing to do with the Mandate or resolution 181.

Meanwhile, my relatives in Israel are leading productive lives as doctors, social workers, architects and teachers, while you keep on debating about the 1920's.

The Palestinians who are not under Israel's boot are quite successful.

Nice deflection though.

The Arabs-Moslems can't pay their electric bill in spite of the welfare payments they receive..

You have an odd definition of successful.

That's what I said. They are under Israel's boot.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

RE: Boycott Israel
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Again!

That division was in 1922. They did not have international borders until 1924.

(COMMENT)

Well, if I implied a date --- it would be 1924. But in reality, the boundaries of which the Mandate for Palestine applied were the same in 1924 as they were in 1922 and the same as far back as 1920 (with minor adjustments when the administration of the Occupied Enemy Territory ended).

The template on the Mandate for Palestine was drawn up in 1920 at the San Remo Convention. The Mandate was adopted by the League of Nations on 12 August 1922 and went into effect on 29 September 1923. It established British authority over a large expanse of the Levant (the region that comprises all the territory from the Mediterranean in the East to the frontier of Persia in the West). The Mandate also gave Britain the responsibility for creating a Jewish national homeland in the territory.

What do you have to support your claim?

The Reminder in Posting #7581 refers to the Treaty of Lausanne concluded in 1923 (the treaty went into force on 6 August 1924, when the instruments of ratification were officially deposited in Paris). In that Treaty, while the name of Palestine is not specifically mentioned, one of the territories mentioned includes that from the Mediterranean to the frontier of Persia and the frontier of Turkey as described in Article 3. Essentially, the territory considered covered by the Mandate for Palestine was included in the Article portion of the Levant.


Most Respectfully,
R

Britain received a Mandate for Iraq and a Mandate for Palestine that included Transjordan. In article 25 of the Mandate there was a provision to split the Mandate into Transjordan and Palestine. This happened on September 16, 1922 establishing Palestine's final international border. The Mandate went into effect on 29 September 1923 about 3 months after the signing of the Treaty of Lausanne. Palestine had to exist before the Mandate for Palestine could commence.

The plan for the Jewish homeland was for immigrating Jew to obtain Palestinians citizenship and live along side of the existing Palestinian citizens. There was no intent in creating a separate Jewish state.

The creation of Israel was a unilateral military conquest of Palestine that had nothing to do with the Mandate or resolution 181.

Meanwhile, my relatives in Israel are leading productive lives as doctors, social workers, architects and teachers, while you keep on debating about the 1920's.

The Palestinians who are not under Israel's boot are quite successful.

Nice deflection though.

I wasn't really speaking of Palestinians vs. Israelis, but how my relatives in Israel would be surprised about how ppl in America spend their time fixated on them.

Since you mentioned Palestinians though, and how they are supposedly "under the boot of Israel", they could've had complete independence in the year 2000, but instead ruined it with the Second Intifada, which they launched as a response to Ehud Barak's generous offer. Those suicide bombings scarred many Israelis for life and hardened all their stances, so that now a complete resolution of the conflict is virtually impossible. They have no one to blame but themselves.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Boycott Israel
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Again!

(COMMENT)

Well, if I implied a date --- it would be 1924. But in reality, the boundaries of which the Mandate for Palestine applied were the same in 1924 as they were in 1922 and the same as far back as 1920 (with minor adjustments when the administration of the Occupied Enemy Territory ended).

The template on the Mandate for Palestine was drawn up in 1920 at the San Remo Convention. The Mandate was adopted by the League of Nations on 12 August 1922 and went into effect on 29 September 1923. It established British authority over a large expanse of the Levant (the region that comprises all the territory from the Mediterranean in the East to the frontier of Persia in the West). The Mandate also gave Britain the responsibility for creating a Jewish national homeland in the territory.

What do you have to support your claim?

The Reminder in Posting #7581 refers to the Treaty of Lausanne concluded in 1923 (the treaty went into force on 6 August 1924, when the instruments of ratification were officially deposited in Paris). In that Treaty, while the name of Palestine is not specifically mentioned, one of the territories mentioned includes that from the Mediterranean to the frontier of Persia and the frontier of Turkey as described in Article 3. Essentially, the territory considered covered by the Mandate for Palestine was included in the Article portion of the Levant.


Most Respectfully,
R

Britain received a Mandate for Iraq and a Mandate for Palestine that included Transjordan. In article 25 of the Mandate there was a provision to split the Mandate into Transjordan and Palestine. This happened on September 16, 1922 establishing Palestine's final international border. The Mandate went into effect on 29 September 1923 about 3 months after the signing of the Treaty of Lausanne. Palestine had to exist before the Mandate for Palestine could commence.

The plan for the Jewish homeland was for immigrating Jew to obtain Palestinians citizenship and live along side of the existing Palestinian citizens. There was no intent in creating a separate Jewish state.

The creation of Israel was a unilateral military conquest of Palestine that had nothing to do with the Mandate or resolution 181.

Meanwhile, my relatives in Israel are leading productive lives as doctors, social workers, architects and teachers, while you keep on debating about the 1920's.

The Palestinians who are not under Israel's boot are quite successful.

Nice deflection though.

The Arabs-Moslems can't pay their electric bill in spite of the welfare payments they receive..

You have an odd definition of successful.

That's what I said. They are under Israel's boot.

Actually, they're under the boot of their own incompetence and allegiance to islamic terrorist franchises.

Are you aware that the islamic terrorist franchise "Hamas" was put into power by Pal'istanians?

 

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RE: Boycott Israel
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That division was in 1922. They did not have international borders until 1924.

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Well, if I implied a date --- it would be 1924. But in reality, the boundaries of which the Mandate for Palestine applied were the same in 1924 as they were in 1922 and the same as far back as 1920 (with minor adjustments when the administration of the Occupied Enemy Territory ended).

The template on the Mandate for Palestine was drawn up in 1920 at the San Remo Convention. The Mandate was adopted by the League of Nations on 12 August 1922 and went into effect on 29 September 1923. It established British authority over a large expanse of the Levant (the region that comprises all the territory from the Mediterranean in the East to the frontier of Persia in the West). The Mandate also gave Britain the responsibility for creating a Jewish national homeland in the territory.

What do you have to support your claim?

The Reminder in Posting #7581 refers to the Treaty of Lausanne concluded in 1923 (the treaty went into force on 6 August 1924, when the instruments of ratification were officially deposited in Paris). In that Treaty, while the name of Palestine is not specifically mentioned, one of the territories mentioned includes that from the Mediterranean to the frontier of Persia and the frontier of Turkey as described in Article 3. Essentially, the territory considered covered by the Mandate for Palestine was included in the Article portion of the Levant.


Most Respectfully,
R

Britain received a Mandate for Iraq and a Mandate for Palestine that included Transjordan. In article 25 of the Mandate there was a provision to split the Mandate into Transjordan and Palestine. This happened on September 16, 1922 establishing Palestine's final international border. The Mandate went into effect on 29 September 1923 about 3 months after the signing of the Treaty of Lausanne. Palestine had to exist before the Mandate for Palestine could commence.

The plan for the Jewish homeland was for immigrating Jew to obtain Palestinians citizenship and live along side of the existing Palestinian citizens. There was no intent in creating a separate Jewish state.

The creation of Israel was a unilateral military conquest of Palestine that had nothing to do with the Mandate or resolution 181.

Meanwhile, my relatives in Israel are leading productive lives as doctors, social workers, architects and teachers, while you keep on debating about the 1920's.

The Palestinians who are not under Israel's boot are quite successful.

Nice deflection though.

I wasn't really speaking of Palestinians vs. Israelis, but how my relatives in Israel would be surprised about how ppl in America spend their time fixated on them.

Since you mentioned Palestinians though, and how they are supposedly "under the boot of Israel", they could've had complete independence in the year 2000, but instead ruined it with the Second Intifada, which they launched as a response to Ehud Barak's generous offer. Those suicide bombings scarred many Israelis for life and hardened all their stances, so that now a complete resolution of the conflict is virtually impossible. They have no one to blame but themselves.

they could've had complete independence in the year 2000,

Another big, fat Israeli lie.

 

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