Breaking: 27 Story London Tower Apartment Complex Ablaze As People Dangle On Sheets Outside Windows

[Coyote]

I would never want to live higher than 3 stories....high rises make me nervous.

 

[Coyote]

Tragedies on this scale tend to bring out the political grandstanding unfortunately.

I hope - at least - it will be more than that and some substantive changes will be made in safety. Something besides words and demands to vote in this or that party.

Has the cause of the fire been determined?

Have not heard, I imagine it will take some time to determine given the size of it.

so true------so why are the schmucks on this board ASSUMING that something was wrong with
the building?

The building has a bit of history to it....it would be a reasonable assumption as opposed to assuming it's a strike from an alien invasion taskforce trying to determine if intelligent life exists on earth

I am game------you seem to be implying that YOU already KNOW what caused the fire based
on its "History"--------FIRE <no pun intended> AWAY----what caused the fire???

Nope. Not implying anything. Just repeating probabilities and possibilities.

 

[irosie91]

I would never want to live higher than 3 stories....high rises make me nervous.

how nervous? have you discussed your problem with a professional?

 

[irosie91]

Has the cause of the fire been determined?

Have not heard, I imagine it will take some time to determine given the size of it.

so true------so why are the schmucks on this board ASSUMING that something was wrong with
the building?

The building has a bit of history to it....it would be a reasonable assumption as opposed to assuming it's a strike from an alien invasion taskforce trying to determine if intelligent life exists on earth

I am game------you seem to be implying that YOU already KNOW what caused the fire based
on its "History"--------FIRE <no pun intended> AWAY----what caused the fire???

Nope. Not implying anything. Just repeating probabilities and possibilities.

oh-----I , completely missed any of the probabilities and possbilities

 

[Coyote]

London fire latest: Twelve confirmed dead in Grenfell Tower as death toll expected to rise

Residents who escaped spoke of others trapped and screaming for help, with some throwing children from windows and others jumping from upper floors. Some were reported to have attempted to use bin bags as makeshift parachutes.

 

[Coyote]

I would never want to live higher than 3 stories....high rises make me nervous.

how nervous? have you discussed your problem with a professional?

Just the pigeons.

 

[irosie91]

I would never want to live higher than 3 stories....high rises make me nervous.

how nervous? have you discussed your problem with a professional?

Just the pigeons.

the sweet gurgling chirps of pigeons tend to be prevalent on the upper floors

 

[Dalia]

London fire latest: Twelve confirmed dead in Grenfell Tower as death toll expected to rise

Residents who escaped spoke of others trapped and screaming for help, with some throwing children from windows and others jumping from upper floors. Some were reported to have attempted to use bin bags as makeshift parachutes.

i hate when children are hurt and knowing they suffer those no good assholes May and the mayor of London are such big looser. the mayor of London i can't stand him and that bitch may with the same speech life must go on, fuck you.

 

[Tilly]

Seems an aluminium composite type of cladding which is used all over the world, was also used on Grenfell Tower:

ACM – short for aluminium composite material – is used to cover insulation on the exterior of buildings and similar panels have been linked to a series of deadly high-rise fires in the past.

According to The Age one person was killed and six injured when the Mermoz Tower in Roubaix, France, went up in flames in 2012.

Melbourne’s Lacrosse tower also suffered a huge blaze. ACM was used in the construction of both buildings...

...“The Aluminium Composite Material (ACM) panels are a commonly used product in the refurbishment industry.

Cladding 'linked to high-rise blazes around world turned Grenfell Tower into a tomb' - as boss who oversaw revamp admits he 'doesn't even know what it's clad in'

 

[Tilly]

Apparently, behind any kind of cladding there is a gap - air in that gap causes it to act like a chimney.

 

[Dalia]

Apparently, behind any kind of cladding there is a gap - air in that gap causes it to act like a chimney.

Tilly it is a backdraft but the question is how the fire start ? a refrigerator that blow up i don't believe that.

Backdraft - Wikipedia

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

London fire latest: Twelve confirmed dead in Grenfell Tower as death toll expected to rise

Residents who escaped spoke of others trapped and screaming for help, with some throwing children from windows and others jumping from upper floors. Some were reported to have attempted to use bin bags as makeshift parachutes.

These two wastes of human skin are to blame, like cowards they have run into hiding, the British will bring them to justice and they will go to prison for a long time.

REFURB FIRM IN COLLAPSE

Couple whose company were responsible for cladding at tragic Grenfell Tower hide away in £1million home

"Married Raymond and Belinda Bailey's firm was behind the £3million cladding project at the west London block of flats which went up in deadly blaze

THE couple whose company helped refurbish Grenfell Tower were holed up at their £1million home last night.

Raymond and Belinda Bailey were director and secretary of Harley Curtain Wall, responsible for a £3million cladding project at the block of flats.

The business went bust in 2015, shortly after the work, owing creditors more than £1million.

It was bought by another of Mr Bailey’s firms, Harley Facades, based in Crowborough, East Sussex.

The businessman, 58, boasts of more than 25 years “practical experience” as a specialist curtain walling contractor. At their East Sussex home yesterday Mrs Bailey, 56, denied any knowledge of Harley Curtain Wall or its work at Grenfell Tower.

The mum of three insisted there was “nothing to say”.

The Baileys’ home is behind electric gates accessed from a private road. Yesterday a Porsche and Land Rover were parked outside.

At his parents’ house, his mother Janet said: “I’ve heard about the fire but wasn’t aware Raymond’s company was involved.

“But they’ve always got to blame someone, haven’t they?”

Couple whose company cladded tragic Grenfell Tower hide away in £1million home

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

London fire latest: Twelve confirmed dead in Grenfell Tower as death toll expected to rise

Residents who escaped spoke of others trapped and screaming for help, with some throwing children from windows and others jumping from upper floors. Some were reported to have attempted to use bin bags as makeshift parachutes.

i hate when children are hurt and knowing they suffer those no good assholes May and the mayor of London are such big looser. the mayor of London i can't stand him and that bitch may with the same speech life must go on, fuck you.

WTF planet in this below maniac on? He should be bullwhipped.

Man arrested for ‘opening body bags and taking pictures of Grenfell victims’

"A man has been arrested for opening body bags at Grefnell Tower and taking photos of victims.

The man, whom we have chosen not to publicly identify, posted the photos of the deceased victims to Facebook because he said he wanted to help identify them.

The Met Police said a 43-year-old man had been arrested near Latimer Road station in North Kensington at around 6pm.

He was arrested on suspicion of sending malicious communications and obstructing a coroner.

However the graphic photos, which have been seen by Metro.co.uk, are still on Facebook – despite a number of commenters reporting them to the site. The posts have also been flooded with negative comments.

In one of the posts, the man claims the body of a victim was left outside his flat for two hours before police or ambulances arrived.

He writes ‘Does any one know this body laying outside my flat for more than two hours’, before attaching five photos of a deceased victim’s upper body."

Man arrested for 'opening body bags and taking pictures of Grenfell victims'

 

[skye]

People would do anything for a buck in this day and age! ^^^

 

[Tilly]

London fire latest: Twelve confirmed dead in Grenfell Tower as death toll expected to rise

Residents who escaped spoke of others trapped and screaming for help, with some throwing children from windows and others jumping from upper floors. Some were reported to have attempted to use bin bags as makeshift parachutes.

i hate when children are hurt and knowing they suffer those no good assholes May and the mayor of London are such big looser. the mayor of London i can't stand him and that bitch may with the same speech life must go on, fuck you.

WTF planet in this below maniac on? He should be bullwhipped.

Man arrested for ‘opening body bags and taking pictures of Grenfell victims’

"A man has been arrested for opening body bags at Grefnell Tower and taking photos of victims.

The man, whom we have chosen not to publicly identify, posted the photos of the deceased victims to Facebook because he said he wanted to help identify them.

The Met Police said a 43-year-old man had been arrested near Latimer Road station in North Kensington at around 6pm.

He was arrested on suspicion of sending malicious communications and obstructing a coroner.

However the graphic photos, which have been seen by Metro.co.uk, are still on Facebook – despite a number of commenters reporting them to the site. The posts have also been flooded with negative comments.

In one of the posts, the man claims the body of a victim was left outside his flat for two hours before police or ambulances arrived.

He writes ‘Does any one know this body laying outside my flat for more than two hours’, before attaching five photos of a deceased victim’s upper body."

Man arrested for 'opening body bags and taking pictures of Grenfell victims'

OMG.

 

[Coyote]

London fire latest: Twelve confirmed dead in Grenfell Tower as death toll expected to rise

Residents who escaped spoke of others trapped and screaming for help, with some throwing children from windows and others jumping from upper floors. Some were reported to have attempted to use bin bags as makeshift parachutes.

i hate when children are hurt and knowing they suffer those no good assholes May and the mayor of London are such big looser. the mayor of London i can't stand him and that bitch may with the same speech life must go on, fuck you.

WTF planet in this below maniac on? He should be bullwhipped.

Man arrested for ‘opening body bags and taking pictures of Grenfell victims’

"A man has been arrested for opening body bags at Grefnell Tower and taking photos of victims.

The man, whom we have chosen not to publicly identify, posted the photos of the deceased victims to Facebook because he said he wanted to help identify them.

The Met Police said a 43-year-old man had been arrested near Latimer Road station in North Kensington at around 6pm.

He was arrested on suspicion of sending malicious communications and obstructing a coroner.

However the graphic photos, which have been seen by Metro.co.uk, are still on Facebook – despite a number of commenters reporting them to the site. The posts have also been flooded with negative comments.

In one of the posts, the man claims the body of a victim was left outside his flat for two hours before police or ambulances arrived.

He writes ‘Does any one know this body laying outside my flat for more than two hours’, before attaching five photos of a deceased victim’s upper body."

Man arrested for 'opening body bags and taking pictures of Grenfell victims'

That is grotesque - unbelievable

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Lucy:

This below is a picture of an elderly man looking out of the window last night while the horror was unfolding, I wonder if he managed to escape, looking at the condition of the structure around him and that the glass in the window is also intact, it suggests that he was in one of the floors 1-4 the only floors that remained unaffected by the inferno.

Scenes From the West London High-Rise Fire


He was rescued by firefighters! God bless them.

Incredible rescue of man waving a makeshift flag: Trapped resident desperately flapping a jumper from his window is SAVED after a 12 hour operation


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Good that he was rescued and those firefighters, incredibly brave men and women, they all deserve a medal. What very special people they are, some of them have also been injured going into that terrible building.

 

[Coyote]

London fire latest: Twelve confirmed dead in Grenfell Tower as death toll expected to rise

Residents who escaped spoke of others trapped and screaming for help, with some throwing children from windows and others jumping from upper floors. Some were reported to have attempted to use bin bags as makeshift parachutes.

These two wastes of human skin are to blame, like cowards they have run into hiding, the British will bring them to justice and they will go to prison for a long time.

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REFURB FIRM IN COLLAPSE

Couple whose company were responsible for cladding at tragic Grenfell Tower hide away in £1million home

"Married Raymond and Belinda Bailey's firm was behind the £3million cladding project at the west London block of flats which went up in deadly blaze

THE couple whose company helped refurbish Grenfell Tower were holed up at their £1million home last night.

Raymond and Belinda Bailey were director and secretary of Harley Curtain Wall, responsible for a £3million cladding project at the block of flats.

The business went bust in 2015, shortly after the work, owing creditors more than £1million.

It was bought by another of Mr Bailey’s firms, Harley Facades, based in Crowborough, East Sussex.

The businessman, 58, boasts of more than 25 years “practical experience” as a specialist curtain walling contractor. At their East Sussex home yesterday Mrs Bailey, 56, denied any knowledge of Harley Curtain Wall or its work at Grenfell Tower.

The mum of three insisted there was “nothing to say”.

The Baileys’ home is behind electric gates accessed from a private road. Yesterday a Porsche and Land Rover were parked outside.

At his parents’ house, his mother Janet said: “I’ve heard about the fire but wasn’t aware Raymond’s company was involved.

“But they’ve always got to blame someone, haven’t they?”

Couple whose company cladded tragic Grenfell Tower hide away in £1million home

I hope they not only get everyone responsible - including politicians, but beef up safety in remaining buildings. It really sounds like there are other places in the same sort of danger. I know there is a lot of building and rent corruption in big cities...

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

London fire latest: Twelve confirmed dead in Grenfell Tower as death toll expected to rise

Residents who escaped spoke of others trapped and screaming for help, with some throwing children from windows and others jumping from upper floors. Some were reported to have attempted to use bin bags as makeshift parachutes.

i hate when children are hurt and knowing they suffer those no good assholes May and the mayor of London are such big looser. the mayor of London i can't stand him and that bitch may with the same speech life must go on, fuck you.

WTF planet in this below maniac on? He should be bullwhipped.

Man arrested for ‘opening body bags and taking pictures of Grenfell victims’

"A man has been arrested for opening body bags at Grefnell Tower and taking photos of victims.

The man, whom we have chosen not to publicly identify, posted the photos of the deceased victims to Facebook because he said he wanted to help identify them.

The Met Police said a 43-year-old man had been arrested near Latimer Road station in North Kensington at around 6pm.

He was arrested on suspicion of sending malicious communications and obstructing a coroner.

However the graphic photos, which have been seen by Metro.co.uk, are still on Facebook – despite a number of commenters reporting them to the site. The posts have also been flooded with negative comments.

In one of the posts, the man claims the body of a victim was left outside his flat for two hours before police or ambulances arrived.

He writes ‘Does any one know this body laying outside my flat for more than two hours’, before attaching five photos of a deceased victim’s upper body."

Man arrested for 'opening body bags and taking pictures of Grenfell victims'

That is grotesque - unbelievable

Yes, it makes you speechless, there are no words to describe something as horrendous and outrageous as that.

You know, or you should know that I personally believe that POS should be shot where he stands.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

The ugly politics of the Grenfell Tower fire

This is a decent write up of the problems. The residents had been complaining for some time but the tory local authority refused to act.

Mr Corbyn put forward a bill last year to ensure that all rented accomodation was fit for purpose. The tory party voted it down. The majority of tory mps are landlords.
Corbyn tried to pass law to make homes safe last year – the Conservatives rejected it

The tory body count grows.

And can I just add that many of you on this thread with your bullshit terrorist theories are a bunch of *****.

what bullshit terrorist theories? I have seen NO THEORIES------other than your bullshit theory
that the building was unsafe------got a link?

The British Left like the Leftists everywhere are now playing politics and in lowest of the low fashion using this horrific tragedy as an attempt to score cheap political points.

Should we on the Right be shocked at this? No.

The Leftists always say that the Right attempt to capitalise on Islamist Terrorist attacks by saying that we on the Right have the philosophy to if not stop at least reduce such Islamist Terrorist attacks in Western nations.

The Leftists being hypocrites now attempt to capitalise on this tragic happening in London with this Grenfell Tower by saying that but but but Jeremy Corbyn could have prevented this.

Tragedies on this scale tend to bring out the political grandstanding unfortunately.

I hope - at least - it will be more than that and some substantive changes will be made in safety. Something besides words and demands to vote in this or that party.

Has the cause of the fire been determined?

Not yet no it hasn't.