BREAKING: Active shooter in Midland/Odessa TX

[Wyatt earp]

Oh people are listening. The fact nobody can win a debate with me on the subject is very telling.

Well, I'm listening to you, brain. None of these people will, but I appreciate one voice of reason in the pile.
It's not going to be easy, putting the genie back in the lamp, but it has to happen. Let these gun nuts self immolate by fighting the police when the police come for their guns. No great loss.

You are listening to him because he is saying what you want to hear. He is simply preaching to the choir.

I'm stating the facts. The pro gun side can't debate them. I believe the majority of people want less mass shootings and a lower homicide rate. The path to that is clear.

Facts? You cant win against the 2nd amendment..


All your doing is complaining

Oh but I already have. Like I said, Scalia even said the 2nd is limited. Machine guns are heavily regulated. It can be done. The Supreme court has regularly let strong state and city gun laws stand.

And the 1st is not?

 

[Brain357]

I think you are so busy jumping up and down screaming that over time you just scream in the wind. Nobody is listening to you anymore. So, perhaps it's better to wait until the facts are on the table.

Oh people are listening. The fact nobody can win a debate with me on the subject is very telling.

Well, I'm listening to you, brain. None of these people will, but I appreciate one voice of reason in the pile.
It's not going to be easy, putting the genie back in the lamp, but it has to happen. Let these gun nuts self immolate by fighting the police when the police come for their guns. No great loss.

You are listening to him because he is saying what you want to hear. He is simply preaching to the choir.

I'm stating the facts. The pro gun side can't debate them. I believe the majority of people want less mass shootings and a lower homicide rate. The path to that is clear.

The path to that is not clear. That's why nobody is listening. You have about 15 pages of nonsense on this thread alone and you have no facts from this specific incident outside of the dead and injured.

Yes it is clear. We with the most guns regularly suffer mass shootings and all shootings. Countries with strong gun control rarely have mass shootings and have homicide rates a fraction of ours. Could it be more clear?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Oh people are listening. The fact nobody can win a debate with me on the subject is very telling.

Well, I'm listening to you, brain. None of these people will, but I appreciate one voice of reason in the pile.
It's not going to be easy, putting the genie back in the lamp, but it has to happen. Let these gun nuts self immolate by fighting the police when the police come for their guns. No great loss.

You are listening to him because he is saying what you want to hear. He is simply preaching to the choir.

I'm stating the facts. The pro gun side can't debate them. I believe the majority of people want less mass shootings and a lower homicide rate. The path to that is clear.

The path to that is not clear. That's why nobody is listening. You have about 15 pages of nonsense on this thread alone and you have no facts from this specific incident outside of the dead and injured.

Yes it is clear. We with the most guns regularly suffer mass shootings and all shootings. Countries with strong gun control rarely have mass shootings and have homicide rates a fraction of ours. Could it be more clear?

what people do is use a different weapon to assault with I guess your clarity is really foggy.

 

[Disir]

Oh people are listening. The fact nobody can win a debate with me on the subject is very telling.

Well, I'm listening to you, brain. None of these people will, but I appreciate one voice of reason in the pile.
It's not going to be easy, putting the genie back in the lamp, but it has to happen. Let these gun nuts self immolate by fighting the police when the police come for their guns. No great loss.

You are listening to him because he is saying what you want to hear. He is simply preaching to the choir.

I'm stating the facts. The pro gun side can't debate them. I believe the majority of people want less mass shootings and a lower homicide rate. The path to that is clear.

The path to that is not clear. That's why nobody is listening. You have about 15 pages of nonsense on this thread alone and you have no facts from this specific incident outside of the dead and injured.

Yes it is clear. We with the most guns regularly suffer mass shootings and all shootings. Countries with strong gun control rarely have mass shootings and have homicide rates a fraction of ours. Could it be more clear?

No. It is not clear. You couldn't wait to jump the gun and rush right into an event which you do not know anything about so that you could listen to yourself.

 

[Brain357]

Well, I'm listening to you, brain. None of these people will, but I appreciate one voice of reason in the pile.
It's not going to be easy, putting the genie back in the lamp, but it has to happen. Let these gun nuts self immolate by fighting the police when the police come for their guns. No great loss.

You are listening to him because he is saying what you want to hear. He is simply preaching to the choir.

I'm stating the facts. The pro gun side can't debate them. I believe the majority of people want less mass shootings and a lower homicide rate. The path to that is clear.

The path to that is not clear. That's why nobody is listening. You have about 15 pages of nonsense on this thread alone and you have no facts from this specific incident outside of the dead and injured.

Yes it is clear. We with the most guns regularly suffer mass shootings and all shootings. Countries with strong gun control rarely have mass shootings and have homicide rates a fraction of ours. Could it be more clear?

what people do is use a different weapon to assault with I guess your clarity is really foggy.

Do they now? Yet countries with strong gun control don't have a mass killing problem by any weapon. Strange. Mass killing are only common here and guns are the favorite weapon.

 

[Brain357]

Well, I'm listening to you, brain. None of these people will, but I appreciate one voice of reason in the pile.
It's not going to be easy, putting the genie back in the lamp, but it has to happen. Let these gun nuts self immolate by fighting the police when the police come for their guns. No great loss.

You are listening to him because he is saying what you want to hear. He is simply preaching to the choir.

I'm stating the facts. The pro gun side can't debate them. I believe the majority of people want less mass shootings and a lower homicide rate. The path to that is clear.

The path to that is not clear. That's why nobody is listening. You have about 15 pages of nonsense on this thread alone and you have no facts from this specific incident outside of the dead and injured.

Yes it is clear. We with the most guns regularly suffer mass shootings and all shootings. Countries with strong gun control rarely have mass shootings and have homicide rates a fraction of ours. Could it be more clear?

No. It is not clear. You couldn't wait to jump the gun and rush right into an event which you do not know anything about so that you could listen to yourself.

And how is it not clear? Do tell. You chose to ignore it's a unique problem for us and we happen to have the most guns?

 

[Correll]

Hee hee, old man. Even older than me.
Wait. Are we talking about mass shootings or the more general homicide rate?

General homicide rate. Mass shootings are extremely rare in countries with strong gun control. You are aware Israel has very strong gun control and a lower homicide rate than the US?

Well, mass shootings are pretty rare here too.


General homicide rate? Well, aren't you afraid of being called racist?

No actually they are extremely frequent here relative to countries with strong gun control. I don't believe the UK has ever had a school shooting and couldn't tell you when their last mass shooting was. We however have these events weekly. Law enforcement in countries with strong gun control do not regularly shoot people and are themselves not regularly shot.

Why would I be racist for discussing homicide rates and gun control?

1. But still really rare.


2. Because you know that the higher homicide rates are driven by crime by black and brown people. So, any serious discussion of the issue, immediately becomes calling you a racist for bringing that up.

Weekly is really rare? Many countries go years without them.

They seem to be driven by men from what I can see. Every country has men. I gave the example of Israel because they have a large arab minority population, yet still have a much smaller homicide rate. It's not about minorities, it's about guns.

Men are more aggressive, so that makes sense.

But all countries have men in about the same proportions.

So you are obviously talking about differences in ethnic make up of men. As you telegraph with your "arab" comment.


Are you making a racist genetic argument, or a racist cultural argument?

 

[Brain357]

General homicide rate. Mass shootings are extremely rare in countries with strong gun control. You are aware Israel has very strong gun control and a lower homicide rate than the US?

Well, mass shootings are pretty rare here too.


General homicide rate? Well, aren't you afraid of being called racist?

No actually they are extremely frequent here relative to countries with strong gun control. I don't believe the UK has ever had a school shooting and couldn't tell you when their last mass shooting was. We however have these events weekly. Law enforcement in countries with strong gun control do not regularly shoot people and are themselves not regularly shot.

Why would I be racist for discussing homicide rates and gun control?

1. But still really rare.


2. Because you know that the higher homicide rates are driven by crime by black and brown people. So, any serious discussion of the issue, immediately becomes calling you a racist for bringing that up.

Weekly is really rare? Many countries go years without them.

They seem to be driven by men from what I can see. Every country has men. I gave the example of Israel because they have a large arab minority population, yet still have a much smaller homicide rate. It's not about minorities, it's about guns.

Men are more aggressive, so that makes sense.

But all countries have men in about the same proportions.

So you are obviously talking about differences in ethnic make up of men. As you telegraph with your "arab" comment.


Are you making a racist genetic argument, or a racist cultural argument?

All countries have men and minorities. What they don't have is easy access to guns. Just like our gun nuts here have gun courage, criminals are also empowered by guns. When you are armed it's not so scary robbing people.

 

[Natural Citizen]

We do have checks and balances. I don't see what that has to do with gun violence. Comparing to other countries shows us how it should be. We should want lower homicide rates, clearly flooding the country with guns doesn't work.

I tend to adhere to the idea that America has a virtue problem.

I don't know if you've ever traveled to other developed continents in the world, other nations; but my opinion is that ours is a nation toward the bottom of the list when it comes to that. It's a deep topic, really.

But laws can't really change the virtue of the people. The people have to change and that will in turn effect the laws.

 

[Correll]

Well, mass shootings are pretty rare here too.


General homicide rate? Well, aren't you afraid of being called racist?

No actually they are extremely frequent here relative to countries with strong gun control. I don't believe the UK has ever had a school shooting and couldn't tell you when their last mass shooting was. We however have these events weekly. Law enforcement in countries with strong gun control do not regularly shoot people and are themselves not regularly shot.

Why would I be racist for discussing homicide rates and gun control?

Move your ass to one of those countries.

I accept your surrender.

2nd amendment twat

What about it? Even Scalia said it is limited. It clearly states well regulated militia. Its intent was to protect the country from invasion. With the worlds strongest military it is no longer needed. We can and should implement some gun control.

Who would you want to take guns away from, racist?

 

[OldLady]

Well, I'm listening to you, brain. None of these people will, but I appreciate one voice of reason in the pile.
It's not going to be easy, putting the genie back in the lamp, but it has to happen. Let these gun nuts self immolate by fighting the police when the police come for their guns. No great loss.

You are listening to him because he is saying what you want to hear. He is simply preaching to the choir.

I'm stating the facts. The pro gun side can't debate them. I believe the majority of people want less mass shootings and a lower homicide rate. The path to that is clear.

The path to that is not clear. That's why nobody is listening. You have about 15 pages of nonsense on this thread alone and you have no facts from this specific incident outside of the dead and injured.

Yes it is clear. We with the most guns regularly suffer mass shootings and all shootings. Countries with strong gun control rarely have mass shootings and have homicide rates a fraction of ours. Could it be more clear?

No. It is not clear. You couldn't wait to jump the gun and rush right into an event which you do not know anything about so that you could listen to yourself.

Disir, what more does brain need to know to comment on gun control? The mass shooter had a rifle in his car (according to the police). He shot a cop, hijacked a mail truck and randomly shot others as he drove by them. He killed six, injured twenty-some others and was eventually shot himelf by the police.
What more does brain need to know to comment on gun control in this country? What extenuating circumstances would take the easy availability of guns out of the equation? Mental health? lol He may have been nuts but he still had a rifle.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

We do have checks and balances. I don't see what that has to do with gun violence. Comparing to other countries shows us how it should be. We should want lower homicide rates, clearly flooding the country with guns doesn't work.

I tend to adhere to the idea that America has a virtue problem.

I don't know if you've ever traveled to other developed continents in the world, other nations; but my opinion is that ours is a nation toward the bottom of the list when it comes to that. It's a deep topic, really.

People are pretty much the same all over. If we had easy access to guns our murder rates would match yours.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You are listening to him because he is saying what you want to hear. He is simply preaching to the choir.

I'm stating the facts. The pro gun side can't debate them. I believe the majority of people want less mass shootings and a lower homicide rate. The path to that is clear.

The path to that is not clear. That's why nobody is listening. You have about 15 pages of nonsense on this thread alone and you have no facts from this specific incident outside of the dead and injured.

Yes it is clear. We with the most guns regularly suffer mass shootings and all shootings. Countries with strong gun control rarely have mass shootings and have homicide rates a fraction of ours. Could it be more clear?

what people do is use a different weapon to assault with I guess your clarity is really foggy.

Do they now? Yet countries with strong gun control don't have a mass killing problem by any weapon. Strange. Mass killing are only common here and guns are the favorite weapon.

Mass killing or die unarmed by the hands of a gang what's the difference? You have me confused with someone else that might find a difference between the two

 

[OldLady]

Well, I'm listening to you, brain. None of these people will, but I appreciate one voice of reason in the pile.
It's not going to be easy, putting the genie back in the lamp, but it has to happen. Let these gun nuts self immolate by fighting the police when the police come for their guns. No great loss.

You are listening to him because he is saying what you want to hear. He is simply preaching to the choir.

I'm stating the facts. The pro gun side can't debate them. I believe the majority of people want less mass shootings and a lower homicide rate. The path to that is clear.

The path to that is not clear. That's why nobody is listening. You have about 15 pages of nonsense on this thread alone and you have no facts from this specific incident outside of the dead and injured.

Yes it is clear. We with the most guns regularly suffer mass shootings and all shootings. Countries with strong gun control rarely have mass shootings and have homicide rates a fraction of ours. Could it be more clear?

what people do is use a different weapon to assault with I guess your clarity is really foggy.

Please link me to some examples of drive by knifings.

 

[Brain357]

We do have checks and balances. I don't see what that has to do with gun violence. Comparing to other countries shows us how it should be. We should want lower homicide rates, clearly flooding the country with guns doesn't work.

I tend to adhere to the idea that America has a virtue problem.

I don't know if you've ever traveled to other developed continents in the world, other nations; but my opinion is that ours is a nation toward the bottom of the list when it comes to that. It's a deep topic, really.

But laws can't really change the virtue of the people. The people have to change and that will in turn effect the laws.

While I think you have some wisdom in there I also think people with a virtue problem are less dangerous without easy access to guns.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You are listening to him because he is saying what you want to hear. He is simply preaching to the choir.

I'm stating the facts. The pro gun side can't debate them. I believe the majority of people want less mass shootings and a lower homicide rate. The path to that is clear.

The path to that is not clear. That's why nobody is listening. You have about 15 pages of nonsense on this thread alone and you have no facts from this specific incident outside of the dead and injured.

Yes it is clear. We with the most guns regularly suffer mass shootings and all shootings. Countries with strong gun control rarely have mass shootings and have homicide rates a fraction of ours. Could it be more clear?

No. It is not clear. You couldn't wait to jump the gun and rush right into an event which you do not know anything about so that you could listen to yourself.

Disir, what more does brain need to know to comment on gun control? The mass shooter had a rifle in his car (according to the police). He shot a cop, hijacked a mail truck and randomly shot others as he drove by them. He killed six, injured twenty-some others and was eventually shot himelf by the police.
What more does brain need to know to comment on gun control in this country? What extenuating circumstances would take the easy availability of guns out of the equation? Mental health? lol He may have been nuts but he still had a rifle.

Well, it would be nice if he had some knowledge on how to operate a rifle before he comments. Do you realize how hard it is to operate a vehicle and shoot a rifle at the same time and actually hit a target??

 

[Brain357]

No actually they are extremely frequent here relative to countries with strong gun control. I don't believe the UK has ever had a school shooting and couldn't tell you when their last mass shooting was. We however have these events weekly. Law enforcement in countries with strong gun control do not regularly shoot people and are themselves not regularly shot.

Why would I be racist for discussing homicide rates and gun control?

Move your ass to one of those countries.

I accept your surrender.

2nd amendment twat

What about it? Even Scalia said it is limited. It clearly states well regulated militia. Its intent was to protect the country from invasion. With the worlds strongest military it is no longer needed. We can and should implement some gun control.

Who would you want to take guns away from, racist?

I think you start by ensuring that every gun is registered and each sale has a background check. Then you heavily regulate any weapons for mass killing that use high capacity magazines.

 

[Brain357]

I'm stating the facts. The pro gun side can't debate them. I believe the majority of people want less mass shootings and a lower homicide rate. The path to that is clear.

The path to that is not clear. That's why nobody is listening. You have about 15 pages of nonsense on this thread alone and you have no facts from this specific incident outside of the dead and injured.

Yes it is clear. We with the most guns regularly suffer mass shootings and all shootings. Countries with strong gun control rarely have mass shootings and have homicide rates a fraction of ours. Could it be more clear?

what people do is use a different weapon to assault with I guess your clarity is really foggy.

Do they now? Yet countries with strong gun control don't have a mass killing problem by any weapon. Strange. Mass killing are only common here and guns are the favorite weapon.

Mass killing or die unarmed by the hands of a gang what's the difference? You have me confused with someone else that might find a difference between the two

Countries with strong gun control have homicide rates a fraction of ours. Much safer.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Move your ass to one of those countries.

I accept your surrender.

2nd amendment twat

What about it? Even Scalia said it is limited. It clearly states well regulated militia. Its intent was to protect the country from invasion. With the worlds strongest military it is no longer needed. We can and should implement some gun control.

Who would you want to take guns away from, racist?

I think you start by ensuring that every gun is registered and each sale has a background check. Then you heavily regulate any weapons for mass killing that use high capacity magazines.

You only need one bullet

 

[buttercup]

One suspect is in custody...
Midland Police: Suspect taken into custody at Cinergy of Midland, 20 people hurt in active shooting

Damn..................when I first heard it come over the news, they were saying 1 dead and 10 injured. Now it's up to 20?

It says they got 1 suspect, but in the original reports there were 2 shooters, one in a gold and white truck, one in a hijacked postal van.

There are always inconsistencies in these “events.” There are always conflicting reports between eyewitnesses and what the media reports.