BREAKING: FDA to ban trans-fats

[ClosedCaption]

So make the choice not to eat them. No need to have government intervene.

No harm..

Lots of harm, everyone knows that government intervention hurts everyone. Look at cigarettes and other tobacco, the government lets this go on. Do you understand inhaling smoke into your lungs is bad? Why is there no ban? Money.
So government doesn't give a fuck but not job liberals are blind.

Uh ok, but still no harm

 

[TemplarKormac]

Considering how fat America is, it's clear that people can't monitor what they eat. Of course what trans fats do to a person's body end up effecting the cost of healthcare for everybody because we all pay for other people's stupidity.
Next time your insurance premium goes up, go ahead and scratch your size 40 waist and bitch about the government!

And since when is it the government's right to dictate our dietary habits? I'll bitch as much as I want about government excess if I need to. It's my right to do stupid things without so much as a peep from others, or from you. You take care of your body, and I'll take care of mine.

To borrow a phrase from the pro-choice contingent:

"STAY OUT OF MY BODY!"

 

[Vox]

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you are. if they are available

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They will always be available.

Neither the free market nor its cousin, the black-market, will be fooled,

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nope. they are not available in the natural raw foods except natural trans fats, which include conjugated linoleic acid (CLA) and vaccenic acid, which originate in the rumen of cattle and sheep ( but those are a miniscule amount present in milk and body fat of those animals).
The 99% of transfats consumed by an ordinary person originate from artificially constructed by the processed food industry as a side effect of partially hydrogenating unsaturated plant fats (generally vegetable oils).

so if they are banned - there is absolutely no effect for the person who does not eat processed food ( unless the government regulation will be as idiotic as to include milk and steak)

 

[bripat9643]

I get it that you don't think a democratically elected govt should have the power to remove a harmful ingredient from processed food when consumer choice has proven ineffective in removing it.

however, if people really really miss their transfats, I figure they'll elect someone who will reverse course.

That is, I think a significant number of people just don't care one way or another, and your are moonshite bat crazy.

Nothing will change. Chemists are all set to change the recipe to an even more harmful substance.

That's a very real possibility. There was show on tv not too long ago ... food channel or travel ... about how the food industry engineered the simple potato chip to have the most alluring combination of fat, sugar and salt. Below is a link to the underlying story of why consumer choice is not enough to alter trans fat use.

Michael Moss on Salt Sugar Fat and Why Potato Chips Taste So Good - iVillage

In other words, they made a potato chip that people like.

That is so sinister!

 

[Vox]

Nothing will change. Chemists are all set to change the recipe to an even more harmful substance.

That's a very real possibility. There was show on tv not too long ago ... food channel or travel ... about how the food industry engineered the simple potato chip to have the most alluring combination of fat, sugar and salt. Below is a link to the underlying story of why consumer choice is not enough to alter trans fat use.

Michael Moss on Salt Sugar Fat and Why Potato Chips Taste So Good - iVillage

In other words, they made a potato chip that people like.

That is so sinister!

there is a lot of sinister in this. Potato chips were made for decades. Making them the way that you can't stop - is sinister.

BTW, so called diet soda products are actually the same way. it is better to consume the standard one, than the 0 calorie one, since the latter increases your appetite

 

[ClosedCaption]

The only way for the average person to know what's being put into foods is to be a nutritionist and scientist. The average person just knows it tastes good and doesn't know it's effects.

So let's stop pretending that only the ignorant don't know. America is the fattest nation because people DON'T KNOW. Pretending like people will suddenly know flies in the face of facts and logic

 

[daveman]

I have a fundamental right to consume all the trans fats I want, whenever and wherever I want, and that's directly consistent to abortion.

The left supports the right to choose...as long as you choose to do what they tell you to do.

 

[TemplarKormac]

The only way for the average person to know what's being put into foods is to be a nutritionist and scientist. The average person just knows it tastes good and doesn't know it's effects.

No... just read the nutrition label, Einstein.

 

[g5000]

The only way for the average person to know what's being put into foods is to be a nutritionist and scientist. The average person just knows it tastes good and doesn't know it's effects.

So let's stop pretending that only the ignorant don't know. America is the fattest nation because people DON'T KNOW. Pretending like people will suddenly know flies in the face of facts and logic

Everyone knows the effects of being a fatso, eating too much and not exercising enough.

 

[Seawytch]

And cigarettes are still legal.
Government sure is smart.

Hmm..more like one has deeper pockets than another.

 

[Sunshine]

You, the American citizen, have just been ruled incapable of making the right decisions on what to cook and what to eat.

The government will now make those decisions for you. For your own good.

Why the government is more qualified than you are, has not been explained.

As the article describes, if there's something you want to put in your food, you'll have to petition the government for permission. The article notes that such petition will likely not be approved.

Move along.

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FDA to ban artery-clogging trans fats - Boston News, Weather, Sports | FOX 25 | MyFoxBoston

FDA to ban artery-clogging trans fats

Posted: Nov 07, 2013 9:45 AM PST
Updated: Nov 07, 2013 9:48 AM PST

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The U.S., Food and Drug Administration announced Thursday it will require the food industry to gradually phase out artificial trans fats, saying they are a threat to Americans' health. Commissioner Margaret Hamburg said the move could prevent 20,000 heart attacks and 7,000 deaths each year.

Hamburg said that while the amount of trans fats in the country's diet has declined dramatically in the last decade, they "remain an area of significant public health concern." The trans fats have long been criticized by nutritionists, and New York City and other local governments have banned them.

Though they have been removed from many items, the fats are still found in processed foods, including in some microwave popcorns and frozen pizzas, refrigerated doughs, cookies, biscuits and ready-to-use frostings. They are also sometimes used by restaurants that use the fats for frying. Many larger chains have phased them out, but smaller restaurants may still get food containing trans fats from suppliers.

To phase them out, the FDA said it had made a preliminary determination that trans fats no longer fall in the agency's "generally recognized as safe" category, which is reserved for thousands of additives that manufacturers can add to foods without FDA review. Once trans fats are off the list, anyone who wants to use them would have to petition the agency for a regulation allowing it, and that would likely not be approved.


(Full text of the article can be read at the above URL)

Thanks to the FDA and Mayor Bloomberg I will be able to extend my life for another 50 years.

Left to my own devices I would have been dead.

BTW, is muff diving bad for me?

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That depends on what kind of powder is on the muff.

 

[Sunshine]

Considering how fat America is, it's clear that people can't monitor what they eat. Of course what trans fats do to a person's body end up effecting the cost of healthcare for everybody because we all pay for other people's stupidity.
Next time your insurance premium goes up, go ahead and scratch your size 40 waist and bitch about the government!

But since Americans are so fat that proves they ARE smart enough to...hold on....

But the poor will not have as many processed products from which to make their selections!

 

[Sunshine]

Hey, if you don't like getting schooled, don't post stupid shit in the first place. Not rocket surgery.

^ Has no argument to counter marty, instead whines about his neg rep by posting it.

Government takes away choice of keeping health insurance, takes away choice of purchasing trans fat. Dems, the party of less choice!

Pogo got schooled and it is obvious to everyone how weak his argument is.

I learned about trans fats long ago, I quit buying foods with trans fats in them. There are other foods I stay a way from. Educate yourself and don't rely on government.

Good luck with that one.

 

[Mustang]

The only way for the average person to know what's being put into foods is to be a nutritionist and scientist. The average person just knows it tastes good and doesn't know it's effects.

So let's stop pretending that only the ignorant don't know. America is the fattest nation because people DON'T KNOW. Pretending like people will suddenly know flies in the face of facts and logic

Everyone knows the effects of being a fatso, eating too much and not exercising enough.

Limbaughism?

 

[whitehall]

The government has a steak (pardon the pun) in your personal nutrition when they offer "free" health care. You will remain under government surveillance or an armed IRS agent will be waiting to lock up your sorry unhealthy ass.

 

[Jughead]

I don't think there is any chance of this ban occurring anytime soon. At least I hope not.

It ironic that the FDA commissioner who commented on the proposed ban is named Margaret Hamburg. I will not deny that I do eat my fair share of hamburgers, and fries as well, probably more than my fair share. However, individuals should be able to decide for themselves what they want to eat.

I'm wondering how the fast food restaurants will still be able to serve up burgers and fries without trans fat? I'll bet the result will be unedible food that tastes like cardboard. Realistically, it can't be done.

 

[g5000]

I'm wondering how the fast food restaurants will still be able to serve up burgers and fries without trans fat?

They have already eliminated trans fats.

I'll bet the result will be unedible food that tastes like cardboard. Realistically, it can't be done.

Since they already have, and you have not even noticed, then you are quite wrong.

 

[Sunshine]

BTW, butter contraband in Norway is flourishing

Anyone with a pint of heavy cream and a mixer can make their own butter~!

 

[Sunshine]

Has the FDA banned Twinkies? Nope.

Has the FDA banned nicotine? Nope. Let's not piss off Kentucky, North Carolina, Tennessee, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Ohio, Indiana, South Carolina, and Georgia.

Has the FDA banned nitrites? Nope. Let's not piss off the meatpacking industry (Chicago).

Has the FDA banned sulfites? Nope. Again, let's not piss off the meatpacking industry.

Has the FDA banned high fructose corn syrup? Oh hell no! Let's not piss off Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, Nebraska, Kansas, Minnesota and Missouri!

I guess the trans fat lobby doesn't control an important state.

Capricious and erratic.

Do I , as a FREEMAN, have a right to consume nitrites, sulfites, high fructose corn syrup, trans fats?


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you are. if they are available

the regulation is mainly aimed at food industry.
and since it has manipulated it's products in so many ways to make people addicted to packaged food, I am not sure I am too outraged.

But don't even think to touch my butter

I don't ever eat packaged food, except some chips sometimes when on-call and there is no time for anything else.

People should eat food prepared by themselves from raw products - it is healthy, CHEAP and tasty.

I have lost 15 pounds since I retired. All I did was stop eating fast food and junk. Nothing but good home cooked food for me.

 

[Contumacious]

You, the American citizen, have just been ruled incapable of making the right decisions on what to cook and what to eat.

The government will now make those decisions for you. For your own good.

Why the government is more qualified than you are, has not been explained.

As the article describes, if there's something you want to put in your food, you'll have to petition the government for permission. The article notes that such petition will likely not be approved.

Move along.

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FDA to ban artery-clogging trans fats - Boston News, Weather, Sports | FOX 25 | MyFoxBoston

FDA to ban artery-clogging trans fats

Posted: Nov 07, 2013 9:45 AM PST
Updated: Nov 07, 2013 9:48 AM PST

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The U.S., Food and Drug Administration announced Thursday it will require the food industry to gradually phase out artificial trans fats, saying they are a threat to Americans' health. Commissioner Margaret Hamburg said the move could prevent 20,000 heart attacks and 7,000 deaths each year.

Hamburg said that while the amount of trans fats in the country's diet has declined dramatically in the last decade, they "remain an area of significant public health concern." The trans fats have long been criticized by nutritionists, and New York City and other local governments have banned them.

Though they have been removed from many items, the fats are still found in processed foods, including in some microwave popcorns and frozen pizzas, refrigerated doughs, cookies, biscuits and ready-to-use frostings. They are also sometimes used by restaurants that use the fats for frying. Many larger chains have phased them out, but smaller restaurants may still get food containing trans fats from suppliers.

To phase them out, the FDA said it had made a preliminary determination that trans fats no longer fall in the agency's "generally recognized as safe" category, which is reserved for thousands of additives that manufacturers can add to foods without FDA review. Once trans fats are off the list, anyone who wants to use them would have to petition the agency for a regulation allowing it, and that would likely not be approved.


(Full text of the article can be read at the above URL)

Thanks to the FDA and Mayor Bloomberg I will be able to extend my life for another 50 years.

Left to my own devices I would have been dead.

BTW, is muff diving bad for me?

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That depends on what kind of powder is on the muff.

She uses a French brand called "Le Puntange"

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