BREAKING: It's Official ----Judge Chutkan Pauses Trump DC Case Amid Dispute Over Immunity Argument

There are more conservative justices than others, but the voting records of the Republican justices when compared to the Democratic justices shows a semblance of unbiased interpretation of the law vs the Democratic justices always coming to the same conclusions that align with the Democratic Party. The point is that even if all justices can be partisan, the Republicans are clearly far less so.
Utter bullshit...

The Judicial System is famously has a racist bias against blacks...

You are going to have to back your assertion with actual evidence..

 
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Gotta love it. Jack Smith screwed up and non American born Jamaican Judge Chutkan realizes she's got to put the brakes on this fiasco.


It will all be resolved before March 4th and the trial will proceed.
 
Spoken like a fully indoctrinated fool.

Look, anybody with a lick of common sense knows that foreign companies don't pay millions of dollars to kids of the US VP for nothing. Companies don't pay real money for illusions of access. An innocent person doesn't change his story as evidence surfaces. First Joe says he doesn't have any knowledge of his son's business dealings. As whistleblower's testimony surfaces, his story changes to he wasn't involved in his son's business dealings. Now, as even more information has surfaced, the story, according to Hunter is that his dad had no financial involvement in his business dealings. Normal people don't have 20 shell(meaning no income or business purpose) companies setup to funnel money.

There is much more, but you are blinded by your allegiance.
And you think the former president can keep highly classified documents in his basement and lie to the DoJ when he’s forced to turn them over.

The only difference is I don’t have to make assumptions about it.
 
Utter bullshit...

The Judicial System is famously has a racist bias against blacks...

You are going to have to back your assertion with actual evidence..


Yeah, especially the most conservative justice of all who just happens to be black. Everything comes back to racism in leftist circles. It is in their DNA.
 
And you think the former president can keep highly classified documents in his basement and lie to the DoJ when he’s forced to turn them over.

The only difference is I don’t have to make assumptions about it.

Sure you do. You are presuming that he didn't declassify them when he was in office.

Admittedly, it is presumptuous to think that an innocent man doesn't change his story continuously as evidence against him is overturned. Presumptions like this are used on a daily basis in court rooms across the country to convict people beyond a reasonable doubt.
 
Sure you do. You are presuming that he didn't declassify them when he was in office.

Admittedly, it is presumptuous to think that an innocent man doesn't change his story continuously as evidence against him is overturned. Presumptions like this are used on a daily basis in court rooms across the country to convict people beyond a reasonable doubt.
Why would I believe he declassified them? There’s no indication he did so.

Even if he did, that doesn’t give him a right to obstruct justice and keep the documents in defiance of a grand jury subpoena.
 
Why would I believe he declassified them? There’s no indication he did so.

Even if he did, that doesn’t give him a right to obstruct justice and keep the documents in defiance of a grand jury subpoena.

Right, he has no more rights to obstruct justice than this White House does with regards to responding to document requests from a House impeachment inquiry. Lets see how that goes.

Back to ole' Joe. You don't think it is suspicious that he would like about his knowledge of his son's business dealings? You don't think 20 shell companies is suspicious? You don't think his son getting hired by a Ukrainian business that was under investigation while he was VP is suspicious, particularly given that Joe was the special envoy to the Ukraine and bragged about getting the investigator for his son's company fired? None of that is even remotely suspicious to you? This doesn't even touch on Joe and Hunters ties to China and Russia.
 
Right, he has no more rights to obstruct justice than this White House does with regards to responding to document requests from a House impeachment inquiry. Lets see how that goes.

Back to ole' Joe. You don't think it is suspicious that he would like about his knowledge of his son's business dealings? You don't think 20 shell companies is suspicious? You don't think his son getting hired by a Ukrainian business that was under investigation while he was VP is suspicious, particularly given that Joe was the special envoy to the Ukraine and bragged about getting the investigator for his son's company fired? None of that is even remotely suspicious to you? This doesn't even touch on Joe and Hunters ties to China and Russia.
The executive refusing congressional subpoenas is nothing new and has no relation to a private citizen (Trump) obstructing the DoJ. These are far different and it’s totally absurd you try to draw a comparison here.

The issue with Shokin being fired would be more suspicious except for the fact that everyone in the State Dept agreed that Shokin was corrupt and needed to be fired. This is a fact that you always seem to neglect. Pretty weird coincidence.

You have only suspicion for Biden. I have evidence against Trump. There’s a pretty big difference.
 
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The executive refusing congressional subpoenas is nothing new and has no relation to a private citizen (Trump) obstructing the DoJ. These are far different and it’s totally absurd you try to draw a comparison here.

The issue with Shokin being fired would be more suspicious except for the fact that everyone in the State Dept agreed that Shokin was corrupt and needed to be fired. This is a fact that you always seem to neglect. Pretty weird coincidence.

You have only suspicion for Biden. I have evidence against Trump. There’s a pretty big difference.

You once again ignore the fact that Biden lied or that Hunter was working for Burisma in the first place. Anyone with a shred of common sense can see that something nefarious was going on with Hunter and Joe. Like I said before, criminal trials are determined on circumstantial evidence on a daily basis. Common sense is akin to "reasonable doubt". The smoke rising from the Biden family is getting higher and higher and at some point even the lefties will have a hard time claiming that any doubt is actually reasonable.
 
You once again ignore the fact that Biden lied or that Hunter was working for Burisma in the first place. Anyone with a shred of common sense can see that something nefarious was going on with Hunter and Joe. Like I said before, criminal trials are determined on circumstantial evidence on a daily basis. Common sense is akin to "reasonable doubt". The smoke rising from the Biden family is getting higher and higher and at some point even the lefties will have a hard time claiming that any doubt is actually reasonable.
Great. He lied. I guess. So does Trump. A lot. It’s only nefarious when a Democrat does it.

Common sense says that when the entire State Dept wanted Shokin fired, you don’t need to invent a story about a bribe which doesn’t seem to exist.
 
Great. He lied. I guess. So does Trump. A lot. It’s only nefarious when a Democrat does it.

Common sense says that when the entire State Dept wanted Shokin fired, you don’t need to invent a story about a bribe which doesn’t seem to exist.

Why did Burisma hire the son of US VP, who was the special envoy to Ukraine? Do you believe it was purely coincidental? If the US was already gung ho about firing Shokin', it seems as though Burisma could have saved the millions they paid Hunter. That begs a bigger question. Hunter took in millions of dollars from foreign entities. What did he do for them? What were they paying for?
 
Why did Burisma hire the son of US VP, who was the special envoy to Ukraine? Do you believe it was purely coincidental? If the US was already gung ho about firing Shokin', it seems as though Burisma could have saved the millions they paid Hunter. That begs a bigger question. Hunter took in millions of dollars from foreign entities. What did he do for them? What were they paying for?
Hunter was hired because he had the right name.


You think a few million dollars is a big deal to Burisma? It’s not.
 
Hunter was hired because he had the right name.


You think a few million dollars is a big deal to Burisma? It’s not.

What does hiring a Biden do for them?

What services did Hunter provide for all the other money he received from foreign entities?
 
What does hiring a Biden do for them?

What services did Hunter provide for all the other money he received from foreign entities?
It provides legitimacy to Burisma among western powers, same as having the former prime minister of Poland on the board.

The answer to your second question is from the laptop, and varies depending on what entity you’re referring to. Some was legal consulting. Some was business consulting.

You have questions and suspicion, not facts and evidence.

Its a far cry from catching Trump red handed with classified documents in his desk.
 
That is not what Jack Smith is asking...

Trump was performing his Presidential duties when he was overseeing the fake electors scheme. That has been clearly ruled before. Not everything a President does is apart of his duties as President...
Nothing criminal about sending a proposed slate of alternative electors. It was done before by Hawaiins and no one considered prosecution because there was no crime.

Endless repetitions of the phrase "fake electors" doesn't change those facts.
So if a President shoots his political opponent, can he be arrested and charged?
Shooting a political opponent us a crime. Legal maneuvers to challenge an election result is not.
 
They are so anxious to get Trump they jumped the gun before even finding out if he can be charged with anything.
His defense is grasping at straws

"President Trump is still liable for everything he did while he was in office, as an ordinary citizen, unless the statute of limitations has run, still liable for everything he did while in office, didn't get away with anything yet – yet.
We have a criminal justice system in this country. We have civil litigation. And former presidents are not immune from being held accountable by either one." Mitch McConnell.
 
What does hiring a Biden do for them?

What services did Hunter provide for all the other money he received from foreign entities?
Did they break any laws either in the US or Ukraine by hiring him?

Isn't that between them and Hunter. Again, any law being broken in the US or Ukraine for hiring him or him accepting the job?
 
It is not about POTUS - or anyone else - being "above the law."

If it were a legitimate criminal case, it would be about whether a former president can now be prosecuted for actions he took while president.

For example, when Bush the Younger attacked Afghanistan in the wake of 9/11, there was talk from Democrats that he was really taking vengeance on people who had attempted to assasinate his father. He was compared to Michael Corleone. If they really believed that, they might have come into power and prosecuted Bush for the murders of all the people ho bombed. The question would have been whether a former president can be held criminally responsible for official acts as president.

If the ruling be that he cannot, that would not be him being "above the law." It's a pretty immature way to look at it. It would be about whether a specific official is immune from certain acts, something that applies to many professions. A boxer is not prosecuted for assault if he pummels his opponent to unconsciousness. A surgeon is not charged with murder if he undertakes a risky procedure and the patient dies. There would be no dramatic speech to the jury about a knife-weilding assailant.

But, this is not such a weighty-issued case. This is a bunch of Democrats trying to prosecute a former president for free speech while in office. It has zero validity. It could only fly with a heavily partisan judge, and an incredibly gullible jury. The first normal judge that takes the appeal will toss it out, likely summarily.

On that day, I look forward to the liberal tears cocktails I'll be celebrating with.

Trump is claiming that he had sovereign immunity as POTUS.
 
Thomas will... Seriously he will probably say Trump is above the law.

If the SC says he is not above the law then Trial goes ahead as normal...

In a year maybe. It is really a two-part claim on his behalf. One of them appears to possibly have some merit. The impeachment will not be seen as double jeopardize by any stretch. The other part may just come down to facts, and for that there will need to be a trial and a record/transcripts. The SCOTUS has very limited original jurisdiction and won't litigate this in its chambers. They may go the route of the case with the former VA governor Bob McDonnell and expand it some that politicking generally isn't criminal even if it is unsavory.
 
Gotta love it. Jack Smith screwed up and non American born Jamaican Judge Chutkan realizes she's got to put the brakes on this fiasco.


More than a bit ironic that it's his motion that is delaying the trial.
 

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