BREAKING: Judge Roy Moore Suspended for Violating Gay Marriage Ruling

[irosie91]

Just broke on twitter.

Good for the Alabama Judicial Court

Way to go, guys.

ok----have some compassion -----he sacrificed himself for his
'beliefs'-----mock not

Good. Send that piece of shit packing, again.

ok ----do you believe that a doctor should be OBLIGATED to
perform an abortion just because abortion is LEGAL?

He doesn't get to write his own laws or disobey Supreme Court rulings. He did the same thing on that damn rock, disobeying a higher court. He's an unethical jerk. Kiss him goodbye.

he knew what he was doing and knew it would cause him GRIEF------one does not have to support his decision to see
it as-------an act of courage

 

[martybegan]

Well, if true, I have no problem here.... he should uphold his duties.

But remember folks, that shit works both ways. Many of you on the left have no problem when your side sidesteps their sworn duties in order to "make a statement"

Yep, things like Sanctuary cities.

Those are also totally legal. All it means is you don't ask, it makes policing the city harder, and you leave a job of the Federals up to the Federals.

Who said anything about legality? It's about performing ones duty as a agent of the government. and if you have an illegal alien in custody, you should report that to the proper federal authorities once the State justice system is done with them.

 

[Frank'sRules]

Just broke on twitter.

Good for the Alabama Judicial Court

Way to go, guys.

ok----have some compassion -----he sacrificed himself for his
'beliefs'-----mock not

Good. Send that piece of shit packing, again.

ok ----do you believe that a doctor should be OBLIGATED to
perform an abortion just because abortion is LEGAL?

He doesn't get to write his own laws or disobey Supreme Court rulings. He did the same thing on that damn rock, disobeying a higher court. He's an unethical jerk. Kiss him goodbye.

he knew what he was doing and knew it would cause him GRIEF------one does not have to support his decision to see
it as-------an act of courage

There is nothing courageous about it. What he did was unethical. You don't tell others to break the law or threaten them if they don't.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The Obama administration's decision to not enforce DOMA for starters...

The Obama administration stopped defending DOMA, they didn't stop enforcement (i.e. it's application under the law). It took the Windsor decision because the federal government stopped enforcement and that was a court order.

Statement of the Attorney General on Litigation Involving the Defense of Marriage Act


>>>>

Agreed, thus proving, once again, ProgressivePatriot is wrong.

the President has concluded that given a number of factors, including a documented history of discrimination, classifications based on sexual orientation should be subject to a more heightened standard of scrutiny. The President has also concluded that Section 3 of DOMA, as applied to legally married same-sex couples, fails to meet that standard and is therefore unconstitutional. Given that conclusion, the President has instructed the Department not to defend the statute in such cases. I fully concur with the President’s determination.

Since when does the POTUS get to decide the constitutionality of a law?

He didn't decide, he direct the AG not to defend what was probably unconstitutional. Fully within his rights just like CA refusing to defend their unconstitutional POS ban.

Determining something to be probably unconstitutional is not his call. You can't defend this and cheer the Judge Moore t hing. BTW, I don't defend either.

 

[martybegan]

The Obama administration's decision to not enforce DOMA for starters...

The Obama administration stopped defending DOMA, they didn't stop enforcement (i.e. it's application under the law). It took the Windsor decision because the federal government stopped enforcement and that was a court order.

Statement of the Attorney General on Litigation Involving the Defense of Marriage Act


>>>>

Agreed, thus proving, once again, ProgressivePatriot is wrong.

the President has concluded that given a number of factors, including a documented history of discrimination, classifications based on sexual orientation should be subject to a more heightened standard of scrutiny. The President has also concluded that Section 3 of DOMA, as applied to legally married same-sex couples, fails to meet that standard and is therefore unconstitutional. Given that conclusion, the President has instructed the Department not to defend the statute in such cases. I fully concur with the President’s determination.

Since when does the POTUS get to decide the constitutionality of a law?

He didn't decide, he direct the AG not to defend what was probably unconstitutional. Fully within his rights just like CA refusing to defend their unconstitutional POS ban.

Determining something to be probably unconstitutional is not his call. You can't defend this and cheer the Judge Moore t hing. BTW, I don't defend either.

An interesting question though, Is he still eligible for the ballot in 2019? What would happen if he gets re-elected?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The POTUS takes an oath to uphold the laws and defend the constitution.... not just the ones he agrees with.

 

[irosie91]

ok----have some compassion -----he sacrificed himself for his
'beliefs'-----mock not

Good. Send that piece of shit packing, again.

ok ----do you believe that a doctor should be OBLIGATED to
perform an abortion just because abortion is LEGAL?

He doesn't get to write his own laws or disobey Supreme Court rulings. He did the same thing on that damn rock, disobeying a higher court. He's an unethical jerk. Kiss him goodbye.

he knew what he was doing and knew it would cause him GRIEF------one does not have to support his decision to see
it as-------an act of courage

There is nothing courageous about it. What he did was unethical. You don't tell others to break the law or threaten them if they don't.

OH? he threatened someone?

 

[Frank'sRules]

Well, if true, I have no problem here.... he should uphold his duties.

But remember folks, that shit works both ways. Many of you on the left have no problem when your side sidesteps their sworn duties in order to "make a statement"

Yep, things like Sanctuary cities.

Those are also totally legal. All it means is you don't ask, it makes policing the city harder, and you leave a job of the Federals up to the Federals.

Who said anything about legality? It's about performing ones duty as a agent of the government. and if you have an illegal alien in custody, you should report that to the proper federal authorities once the State justice system is done with them.

Illegals are policed by the Federals. They are not a city or even a state issue. If the Federals want them then they are responsible for rounding them up.

Having the local police ask immigration questions makes it that much more difficult to keep the local peace and, it's not their fucking job.

 

[martybegan]

Well, if true, I have no problem here.... he should uphold his duties.

But remember folks, that shit works both ways. Many of you on the left have no problem when your side sidesteps their sworn duties in order to "make a statement"

Yep, things like Sanctuary cities.

Those are also totally legal. All it means is you don't ask, it makes policing the city harder, and you leave a job of the Federals up to the Federals.

Who said anything about legality? It's about performing ones duty as a agent of the government. and if you have an illegal alien in custody, you should report that to the proper federal authorities once the State justice system is done with them.

Illegals are policed by the Federals. They are not a city or even a state issue. If the Federals want them then they are responsible for rounding them up.

Having the local police ask immigration questions makes it that much more difficult to keep the local peace and, it's not their fucking job.

Nice dodge there, bitch tits.

 

[Frank'sRules]

The POTUS takes an oath to uphold the laws and defend the constitution.... not just the ones he agrees with.

He takes an oath to defend the Constitution not to defend probably unconstitutional laws in the courts. In this case that would have just been a waste of time and money. Everyone with a brain knew that POS was going down. It was very obviously unconstitutional.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

The Obama administration's decision to not enforce DOMA for starters...

The Obama administration stopped defending DOMA, they didn't stop enforcement (i.e. it's application under the law). It took the Windsor decision because the federal government stopped enforcement and that was a court order.

Statement of the Attorney General on Litigation Involving the Defense of Marriage Act


>>>>

Agreed, thus proving, once again, ProgressivePatriot is wrong.

the President has concluded that given a number of factors, including a documented history of discrimination, classifications based on sexual orientation should be subject to a more heightened standard of scrutiny. The President has also concluded that Section 3 of DOMA, as applied to legally married same-sex couples, fails to meet that standard and is therefore unconstitutional. Given that conclusion, the President has instructed the Department not to defend the statute in such cases. I fully concur with the President’s determination.

How am I wrong? You just agreed with me.They only stopped DEFENDING it

 

[Frank'sRules]

Well, if true, I have no problem here.... he should uphold his duties.

But remember folks, that shit works both ways. Many of you on the left have no problem when your side sidesteps their sworn duties in order to "make a statement"

Yep, things like Sanctuary cities.

Those are also totally legal. All it means is you don't ask, it makes policing the city harder, and you leave a job of the Federals up to the Federals.

Who said anything about legality? It's about performing ones duty as a agent of the government. and if you have an illegal alien in custody, you should report that to the proper federal authorities once the State justice system is done with them.

Illegals are policed by the Federals. They are not a city or even a state issue. If the Federals want them then they are responsible for rounding them up.

Having the local police ask immigration questions makes it that much more difficult to keep the local peace and, it's not their fucking job.

Nice dodge there, bitch tits.

That is not a dodge. The local police are also not responsible for making sure you obey the fire codes, we have people for that, food safety rules, we have people for that, or reading your water meter, we have people for that. When it comes to illegals we have people for that and it ain't the local piggies.

 

[Divine Wind]

Illegals are policed by the Federals. They are not a city or even a state issue. If the Federals want them then they are responsible for rounding them up.

Having the local police ask immigration questions makes it that much more difficult to keep the local peace and, it's not their fucking job.

Correct about the Federals, but when they fail to do their job, it does become a State and local issue.

 

[Divine Wind]

How am I wrong? You just agreed with me.They only stopped DEFENDING it

If you can't see the problem of selective enforcement, I can't help you any more than any other political partisan regardless of flavor.

 

[Frank'sRules]

Good. Send that piece of shit packing, again.

ok ----do you believe that a doctor should be OBLIGATED to
perform an abortion just because abortion is LEGAL?

He doesn't get to write his own laws or disobey Supreme Court rulings. He did the same thing on that damn rock, disobeying a higher court. He's an unethical jerk. Kiss him goodbye.

he knew what he was doing and knew it would cause him GRIEF------one does not have to support his decision to see
it as-------an act of courage

There is nothing courageous about it. What he did was unethical. You don't tell others to break the law or threaten them if they don't.

OH? he threatened someone?

Yes, he did, by his implication that even though the Supreme Court had ruled they still had a state law against it. That state law was unenforceable but he used it to try and stop gay marriages in that shithole of America. He's a dirtbag, stop admiring him because he matches your politics and disobeys the law.

 

[Frank'sRules]

Illegals are policed by the Federals. They are not a city or even a state issue. If the Federals want them then they are responsible for rounding them up.

Having the local police ask immigration questions makes it that much more difficult to keep the local peace and, it's not their fucking job.

Correct about the Federals, but when they fail to do their job, it does become a State and local issue.

No, it does not. They aren't allowed to declare war on Germany either just because the Congress won't.

 

[martybegan]

Yep, things like Sanctuary cities.

Those are also totally legal. All it means is you don't ask, it makes policing the city harder, and you leave a job of the Federals up to the Federals.

Who said anything about legality? It's about performing ones duty as a agent of the government. and if you have an illegal alien in custody, you should report that to the proper federal authorities once the State justice system is done with them.

Illegals are policed by the Federals. They are not a city or even a state issue. If the Federals want them then they are responsible for rounding them up.

Having the local police ask immigration questions makes it that much more difficult to keep the local peace and, it's not their fucking job.

Nice dodge there, bitch tits.

That is not a dodge. The local police are also not responsible for making sure you obey the fire codes, we have people for that, food safety rules, we have people for that, or reading your water meter, we have people for that. When it comes to illegals we have people for that and it ain't the local piggies.

They have someone in their custody and that person is wanted by the feds for ANY OTHER REASON, the feds would be notified. Why is illegal status to be treated differently?

After all, they have already been arrested. Isn't it a failure of the duty to protect to ignore their illegal status?

Bitch-tits.

 

[Divine Wind]

No, it does not. They aren't allowed to declare war on Germany either just because the Congress won't.

Another nice, but weak dodge. The Constitution has a war clause, not an illegal immigration clause. You should learn about the 9th and 10th Amendments.

 

[Frank'sRules]

Those are also totally legal. All it means is you don't ask, it makes policing the city harder, and you leave a job of the Federals up to the Federals.

Who said anything about legality? It's about performing ones duty as a agent of the government. and if you have an illegal alien in custody, you should report that to the proper federal authorities once the State justice system is done with them.

Illegals are policed by the Federals. They are not a city or even a state issue. If the Federals want them then they are responsible for rounding them up.

Having the local police ask immigration questions makes it that much more difficult to keep the local peace and, it's not their fucking job.

Nice dodge there, bitch tits.

That is not a dodge. The local police are also not responsible for making sure you obey the fire codes, we have people for that, food safety rules, we have people for that, or reading your water meter, we have people for that. When it comes to illegals we have people for that and it ain't the local piggies.

They have someone in their custody and that person is wanted by the feds for ANY OTHER REASON, the feds would be notified. Why is illegal status to be treated differently?

After all, they have already been arrested. Isn't it a failure of the duty to protect to ignore their illegal status?

Bitch-tits.

The Federals are made aware of who is in jail. If they want them then they are responsible for coming and getting them. This had been tested in the courts. You can't just hold someone under local custody because you think they might be illegal. That is an issue for ICE.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

The Obama administration's decision to not enforce DOMA for starters...

Add not enforcing certain drug and immigration laws.

Obama Administration says it won't enforce laws it doesn't like

Another thread on the issue: Federal laws Obama is ignoring enforcement while going after American law abiding citizens!

No one in the Obama administration was ever in violation of a court order or held in contempt like Roy Moron was. Secondly, the administration is not actively blocking the enforcement of any law but simply not making enforcement a priority- at least when it comes to drugs. As far as immigration goes, they have in fact deported a hell of a lot of people.