Breaking — McCloskeys charged with felony by Kim Gardner…

[Ame®icano]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

Yes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.

You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.

Right, and they will just leave, right?

By the way, what they were doing on the private property anyways?

I saw people marching to the mayor's house to protest in front of his house.

The mayor lived Blocks away the other direction

The protesters said they took the route they chose because the city had blocked streets.

So they break into a gated community that they did not have permission to be on to take a shortcut? That makes it fine and dandy, lil faun? 200 to 300 hundred angry SJWs that have already proven that they are prone to violence, the police given stand down orders to let this collection of human garbage to rampage sans consequences. Leftard pussbags like yourself seem to believe that they should huddle in their home and hope these thugs don't start ripping shit up and knocking out windows. I also heard the trash talking these alleged "peaceful protestors" were spewing. Vulgar, threatening and intimidating. It doesn't appear to me that these commie fucks were afraid in the slightest,....apprehensive because they are cowards at heart, but they were not "fearful". I wouldn't have shed a tear if McCloskey had emptied his entire arsenal on these thugs.

Let's see your evidence any one of those protesters committed any acts of violence before guns were pulled on them...

Let's see your evidence they threatened the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...

Let's see your evidence they trash talked the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...

Let's see your evidence they're commies...

You spout a lot of bullshit made up from the whole cloth spun from inside your deranged conspiratorial empty head.

Fuckface faun, an estimated crowd of 500 angry SJW thugs break down the gate of a secured, gated community that has been zoned as much, these fucks chant loudly, some of which are armed as they are walking down my street? I wouldn't feel the need to wait and see what their intentions were before I showed them that they better keep on moving their sorry asses down the road. If it means pointing a lock and loaded AR-15 with multiple magazines at the ready as I stand on my own property to insure that they realize that their bullshit, thuggish behavior will be met with some hollow-points to those empty skulls of theirs if they step on my property? So be it. They had no right to meander, threaten or attempt to intimidate this couple on their own property. These sorry sorry pieces of commie shit that trespass, vandalize and act like they own the place had the unmitigated galll to get their panties in a wad because someone stood up to them? That is hilarious and it shows what pussy snowflakes that they are.....my only regret is that the trash-talking wimps didn't get their knee-caps shot off. I can definitely understand how your tender, snowflake like heart was breaking at the mere thought of these marxist sacks of shit being put in their place.

(snicker)

BLM IS a commie front group, dipshit.......

BTW, in the urban dictionary "faun" is a sexualized pre-adolescent boy....certainly describes your mental capabilities. Only God knows what perversions you engage in. I bet the neighborhood kids give you a wide berth or at least they should.

(snicker)

"Fuckface faun, an estimated crowd of 500 angry SJW thugs break down the gate..."

... that's as far as I got in your delusional diatribe as that is not true. Guns were drawn on that crowd before the gate was broken. You lose again like always because you're fucked in tbe head and have no clue what you're talking about.

Did they breach the secured and gated community? Ummmm, yes......were the McCloskeys well within their right to stand their ground and secure their property? Ummmmm, yes. Were these commie fucks trespassing? Ummm, yes, since they didn't have a gate card to enter and broke the gate. I wholeheartedly support the McCloskeys and what they did.l Don't like it? Tough shit.....these commie fucks are lucky that they showed at least some good sense and didn't push the issue or they would still be cleaning up commie brain matter and guts off of the streets....not that I would give a fuck if they all croaked.

Commie lives don't matter, faun, the perv.

They weren't trespassing on the McCloskey's property. That you're too fucked in the head to comprehend that is your problem.

Regardless, you lied (or hallucinated) that breaking the gate justified the McCloskey's armed response since the guns came out before the gate was broken.

What you typed I do not know. But for a period of a month or so before death, destruction and mayhem was packaged as protests in many blue areas. It would be easy to believe personal safety could have been compromised.

That would be like saying James Fields was justified to mow down a crowd of protesters because other protesters were acting violently. The crowd that marched into Portland Place made no threats, neither verbally nor non-verbally when Mark McCloskey brandished his firearm. The gate was not yet broken and the protesters were walking in the street ... until they spotted McCloskey standing on his porch with an AR-15. It was only then that some protesters got up on the sidewalk (still not McCloskey property) and some started making threats.

"crowd made no threats"

LOL

Breaking into private property is a threat.

No, it's not. An actual threat is a felonious assault. Walking onto private property at worst is a misdemeanor.

Sooo, breaking into private property is allowed, because it's a misdemeanor.

 

[WEATHER53]

Only in your Communist wet dreams is what they did illegal.

And of course, in the Legal Statute of the Law....

which legal statute? i suppose now the state is wrong for getting the case dismissed?

prove your point for one in your overall useless life.

what laws did they break. look them up and tell me specifically why they were broken. don't just scream they were, don't cite the bitch who went after them.

remove all and do your own legwork and explain to me with links which MO laws this couple broke.

bet ya $10 you can't do it.

Idiot.

565.056 Assault in the fourth degree

565.056. 1. A person commits the offense of assault in the fourth degree if:

(3) The person purposely places another person in apprehension of immediate physical injury;​

Dumb shit. The party may not instigate the “apprehension of injury” but if another party is threatening you then your response is perfectly fine if that party is “apprehensive” in fact it’s designed that way as an attempt to dissuade the trespasser or aggressor.
Typical liberal snowflake bullshit that if someone feels “apprehensive” then the responsibility for that lies elsewhere

 

[Faun]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

They were clear? How?

heh - now try this one on on pknopp -

how do i tell the difference from a peaceful protest and rioters who ARE IN FACT rioting and killing people in the streets?

like you say hadit - how can you tell? given what has been going on lately i'm not sure how you know a group of people are peaceful when the only thing you know is:

1. mobs are destroying everything in their path
2. they tore down the gate to your private property

great question you won't get a good answer for.

They didn't "tear down the gate" until after guns were pulled on them.

You know this how? IOW, how did they get onto private property to have guns shown to them if they were outside the gate?

I know this because there's video.

Let's get this straight. You have video that shows the mob OUTSIDE the gate, the homeowners coming OUT of their house with guns, threatening said mob, then the mob tears down the gate and trespasses on the homeowners' property. Is that what you're claiming? I'd like the see the idiots who actually took such action in the face of guns being aimed in their general direction. I mean, these are world class simpletons.

No, that's not what I'm claiming. Of course, you could simply watch the video yourself and learn what really did happen. My guess is you prefer to remain stupid.

 

[Ame®icano]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

Yes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.

You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.

Right, and they will just leave, right?

By the way, what they were doing on the private property anyways?

I saw people marching to the mayor's house to protest in front of his house.

The mayor lived Blocks away the other direction

The protesters said they took the route they chose because the city had blocked streets.

So they break into a gated community that they did not have permission to be on to take a shortcut? That makes it fine and dandy, lil faun? 200 to 300 hundred angry SJWs that have already proven that they are prone to violence, the police given stand down orders to let this collection of human garbage to rampage sans consequences. Leftard pussbags like yourself seem to believe that they should huddle in their home and hope these thugs don't start ripping shit up and knocking out windows. I also heard the trash talking these alleged "peaceful protestors" were spewing. Vulgar, threatening and intimidating. It doesn't appear to me that these commie fucks were afraid in the slightest,....apprehensive because they are cowards at heart, but they were not "fearful". I wouldn't have shed a tear if McCloskey had emptied his entire arsenal on these thugs.

Let's see your evidence any one of those protesters committed any acts of violence before guns were pulled on them...

Let's see your evidence they threatened the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...

Let's see your evidence they trash talked the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...

Let's see your evidence they're commies...

You spout a lot of bullshit made up from the whole cloth spun from inside your deranged conspiratorial empty head.

Fuckface faun, an estimated crowd of 500 angry SJW thugs break down the gate of a secured, gated community that has been zoned as much, these fucks chant loudly, some of which are armed as they are walking down my street? I wouldn't feel the need to wait and see what their intentions were before I showed them that they better keep on moving their sorry asses down the road. If it means pointing a lock and loaded AR-15 with multiple magazines at the ready as I stand on my own property to insure that they realize that their bullshit, thuggish behavior will be met with some hollow-points to those empty skulls of theirs if they step on my property? So be it. They had no right to meander, threaten or attempt to intimidate this couple on their own property. These sorry sorry pieces of commie shit that trespass, vandalize and act like they own the place had the unmitigated galll to get their panties in a wad because someone stood up to them? That is hilarious and it shows what pussy snowflakes that they are.....my only regret is that the trash-talking wimps didn't get their knee-caps shot off. I can definitely understand how your tender, snowflake like heart was breaking at the mere thought of these marxist sacks of shit being put in their place.

(snicker)

BLM IS a commie front group, dipshit.......

BTW, in the urban dictionary "faun" is a sexualized pre-adolescent boy....certainly describes your mental capabilities. Only God knows what perversions you engage in. I bet the neighborhood kids give you a wide berth or at least they should.

(snicker)

"Fuckface faun, an estimated crowd of 500 angry SJW thugs break down the gate..."

... that's as far as I got in your delusional diatribe as that is not true. Guns were drawn on that crowd before the gate was broken. You lose again like always because you're fucked in tbe head and have no clue what you're talking about.

Did they breach the secured and gated community? Ummmm, yes......were the McCloskeys well within their right to stand their ground and secure their property? Ummmmm, yes. Were these commie fucks trespassing? Ummm, yes, since they didn't have a gate card to enter and broke the gate. I wholeheartedly support the McCloskeys and what they did.l Don't like it? Tough shit.....these commie fucks are lucky that they showed at least some good sense and didn't push the issue or they would still be cleaning up commie brain matter and guts off of the streets....not that I would give a fuck if they all croaked.

Commie lives don't matter, faun, the perv.

They weren't trespassing on the McCloskey's property. That you're too fucked in the head to comprehend that is your problem.

Regardless, you lied (or hallucinated) that breaking the gate justified the McCloskey's armed response since the guns came out before the gate was broken.

What you typed I do not know. But for a period of a month or so before death, destruction and mayhem was packaged as protests in many blue areas. It would be easy to believe personal safety could have been compromised.

That would be like saying James Fields was justified to mow down a crowd of protesters because other protesters were acting violently. The crowd that marched into Portland Place made no threats, neither verbally nor non-verbally when Mark McCloskey brandished his firearm. The gate was not yet broken and the protesters were walking in the street ... until they spotted McCloskey standing on his porch with an AR-15. It was only then that some protesters got up on the sidewalk (still not McCloskey property) and some started making threats.

That couple may have been in fear. How do you react? The architects of fear who promote this every day on TV have played their role.

Do people in fear approach the group they fear with guns that don't fire? What kind of imbecile does that?

Are you're saying McCloskeys approached "peaceful protesters"?

Where exactly that happened?

Watch the videos.

I did, and every video shows unruly mob entering thru the gate and approaching McCloskey's house.

 

[freyasman]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

Yes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.

You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.

Right, and they will just leave, right?

By the way, what they were doing on the private property anyways?

I saw people marching to the mayor's house to protest in front of his house.

The mayor lived Blocks away the other direction

The protesters said they took the route they chose because the city had blocked streets.

So they break into a gated community that they did not have permission to be on to take a shortcut? That makes it fine and dandy, lil faun? 200 to 300 hundred angry SJWs that have already proven that they are prone to violence, the police given stand down orders to let this collection of human garbage to rampage sans consequences. Leftard pussbags like yourself seem to believe that they should huddle in their home and hope these thugs don't start ripping shit up and knocking out windows. I also heard the trash talking these alleged "peaceful protestors" were spewing. Vulgar, threatening and intimidating. It doesn't appear to me that these commie fucks were afraid in the slightest,....apprehensive because they are cowards at heart, but they were not "fearful". I wouldn't have shed a tear if McCloskey had emptied his entire arsenal on these thugs.

Let's see your evidence any one of those protesters committed any acts of violence before guns were pulled on them...

Let's see your evidence they threatened the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...

Let's see your evidence they trash talked the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...

Let's see your evidence they're commies...

You spout a lot of bullshit made up from the whole cloth spun from inside your deranged conspiratorial empty head.

Fuckface faun, an estimated crowd of 500 angry SJW thugs break down the gate of a secured, gated community that has been zoned as much, these fucks chant loudly, some of which are armed as they are walking down my street? I wouldn't feel the need to wait and see what their intentions were before I showed them that they better keep on moving their sorry asses down the road. If it means pointing a lock and loaded AR-15 with multiple magazines at the ready as I stand on my own property to insure that they realize that their bullshit, thuggish behavior will be met with some hollow-points to those empty skulls of theirs if they step on my property? So be it. They had no right to meander, threaten or attempt to intimidate this couple on their own property. These sorry sorry pieces of commie shit that trespass, vandalize and act like they own the place had the unmitigated galll to get their panties in a wad because someone stood up to them? That is hilarious and it shows what pussy snowflakes that they are.....my only regret is that the trash-talking wimps didn't get their knee-caps shot off. I can definitely understand how your tender, snowflake like heart was breaking at the mere thought of these marxist sacks of shit being put in their place.

(snicker)

BLM IS a commie front group, dipshit.......

BTW, in the urban dictionary "faun" is a sexualized pre-adolescent boy....certainly describes your mental capabilities. Only God knows what perversions you engage in. I bet the neighborhood kids give you a wide berth or at least they should.

(snicker)

"Fuckface faun, an estimated crowd of 500 angry SJW thugs break down the gate..."

... that's as far as I got in your delusional diatribe as that is not true. Guns were drawn on that crowd before the gate was broken. You lose again like always because you're fucked in tbe head and have no clue what you're talking about.

Did they breach the secured and gated community? Ummmm, yes......were the McCloskeys well within their right to stand their ground and secure their property? Ummmmm, yes. Were these commie fucks trespassing? Ummm, yes, since they didn't have a gate card to enter and broke the gate. I wholeheartedly support the McCloskeys and what they did.l Don't like it? Tough shit.....these commie fucks are lucky that they showed at least some good sense and didn't push the issue or they would still be cleaning up commie brain matter and guts off of the streets....not that I would give a fuck if they all croaked.

Commie lives don't matter, faun, the perv.

They weren't trespassing on the McCloskey's property. That you're too fucked in the head to comprehend that is your problem.

Regardless, you lied (or hallucinated) that breaking the gate justified the McCloskey's armed response since the guns came out before the gate was broken.

What you typed I do not know. But for a period of a month or so before death, destruction and mayhem was packaged as protests in many blue areas. It would be easy to believe personal safety could have been compromised.

That would be like saying James Fields was justified to mow down a crowd of protesters because other protesters were acting violently. The crowd that marched into Portland Place made no threats, neither verbally nor non-verbally when Mark McCloskey brandished his firearm. The gate was not yet broken and the protesters were walking in the street ... until they spotted McCloskey standing on his porch with an AR-15. It was only then that some protesters got up on the sidewalk (still not McCloskey property) and some started making threats.

"crowd made no threats"

LOL

Breaking into private property is a threat.

No, it's not. An actual threat is a felonious assault. Walking onto private property at worst is a misdemeanor.

In this instance it was a challenge and they got pissy and their sympathizers in city government got all butthurt when their challenge was accepted.

Pussy move on the part of the mob and the prosecutor. It just illustrates how weak and scared they are of regular people who won't take shit.

 

[Ame®icano]

It's still "breaking in" when you illegally enter private property, even if you don't physically break something to get in. But it's true, they did not break down the gate until after their lives were threatened by the McCloskeys.

lol
Now just how stupid do you sound?

"We didn't try to break in and harm them......UNTIL they pulled guns on us"......lmao
"Uh uh...we didn't wanna rob that bank, but the guards were armed and had their weapons in their hands, so we had too"

You are SUCH A FOOL TOOL

Dumbfuck, that crowd marched past dozens of homes -- they mess with ... none. They were not threatening the McCloskey's when those idiots decided to pull their guns out.

Just curious, out of dozen of homes they passed by, how many backyards they broke into?

Just curious how many properties have to be vandalized before you are no longer OK with it? You mind if people break into where ever you live?

Who said I am ok with it? You missed the point.

Hint: Try reading earlier posts before you reply.

 

[Ame®icano]

Again ... tney weren't on tne McCloskey's property.

Liar!!!!!!

You are like all Moon Bats. You are uneducated and low information.

Here are the facts:

They were facing an angry mob on their property. And this was in the context of an extended period of violence and arson in the surrounding neighborhoods. Media reports of them "taking it to the suburbs" were as credible as anything the press has reported lately. The police had advised them they would not be responding. Some of the protesters were taunting them with death threats giving more of an appearance of a lynch mob than a weekly Bible study group. A metal gate had been smashed to gain entry to the property. They were entirely reasonable in their actions. If anything, they were a bit reserved about it. You can't say they had planned or laid a trap seeing as how they didn't even have shoes on during the incident.

So go fuck yourself Moon Bat.

"They were facing an angry mob on their property."

Wrong. The crowd was not on their property.

And the husband had his gun drawn before he was threatened. It's all on video, including the video of the husband admitting he brandished his firearm before any threats were made.

The goons broke down a gate to a gated community. They had every right to brandish weapons to protect life and property.

That's the law, Moonbat

LOLOL

Watch the video, ya loon. The gun is out before the gate is "broke down."

So what? He can have his gun out and carry it on his property any time he wants.

Sure he can. He just can't threaten someone with it who hasn't threatened him first.

Are you saying breaking into property isn't a threat itself?

 

[9thIDdoc]

Again ... tney weren't on tne McCloskey's property.

You lying asshole.

I know you Moon Bats are uneducated and low information and sometimes are just confused but in this case it is a blatant lie.

Are you really this stupid?

What stupidity are you going to claim next, that the McCloskeys had the guns out before the Neggra/Communist mob threatened them? Oh wait, you already did that.

LOLOL

You racist dumbfuck, it was Mark McCloskey himself who admitted he had his gun out before anyone threatened him.

I asked you to prove that but being the little little coward you are you chickenshitted out.

You have no credibility with stupid shit like that because we know you lie. Either lying or simply delusional as hell. Probably both.

By the way, are you a male? Because "Faun" is kind of an effeminate name. Homo or Transsexual Moon Bat? That would explain you being so upset with a heterosexual threatened couple keeping and bearing arms.

And I said I would post it if any non-racists ask me. I don't oblige racist pieces of shit like you.

As far as my forum name, I took it from the movie which features El Fauno as seen in my avatar. That you find that effeminate speaks volumes about you, not me.

I think it is obvious you were lying about the McCloskeys. Too cowardly to back up your lies.

I also think it is probable that you are a homo or transsexual. Most Moon Bats are. It would be unlikely that you are the exception.

Nope, you're merely nuts. In fact, I've already posted the video on this forum where he admits he pulled out his gun before there were threats. He also says he drew his weapon before they ever got to his house. So he didn't even know if they were going to walk past his house or not, at that point.

Openly possessing a weapon and having it in your hands on your own property is not against law and is in fact a right protected by the US Constitution. And in this instance proved to be the wisest action they could have taken.

LOLOL

You seriously think you can stand on your front yard and point your gun at folks walking by?

You sound fucking crazy. You prolly shouldn't be allowed to own a gun.

That isn't what happened. The rioters had broken in just as surely as if they had kicked in the door to the house. There were many of them yelling and generally displaying ill will. The situation was exactly the reason for the Constitutional protection we have. The confiscation of their weapons was in fact a violation of their Constitutional rights which is the obvious reason the Mayor wants them charged with a felony to make that crime legal after the fact.

 

[9thIDdoc]

It's still "breaking in" when you illegally enter private property, even if you don't physically break something to get in. But it's true, they did not break down the gate until after their lives were threatened by the McCloskeys.

lol
Now just how stupid do you sound?

"We didn't try to break in and harm them......UNTIL they pulled guns on us"......lmao
"Uh uh...we didn't wanna rob that bank, but the guards were armed and had their weapons in their hands, so we had too"

You are SUCH A FOOL TOOL

Dumbfuck, that crowd marched past dozens of homes -- they mess with ... none. They were not threatening the McCloskey's when those idiots decided to pull their guns out.

Just curious, out of dozen of homes they passed by, how many backyards they broke into?

Just curious how many properties have to be vandalized before you are no longer OK with it? You mind if people break into where ever you live?

Who said I am ok with it? You missed the point.

Hint: Try reading earlier posts before you reply.

No, my point is that it doesn't matter how many they had broken into. Doesn't change the facts of the matter.

 

[Faun]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

Yes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.

You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.

And what if they don't?

Unlike you I know how fast a person can move. So, you either present your weapon and let the rioters see you are armed, or you get over run.

They were not brandishing either. Faun, as usual, is ignorant of the law.

"They were not brandishing either."

Are you ever not a cretin?

Ever??

brandish

1: to shake or wave (something, such as a weapon) menacingly brandished a knife at them

2: to exhibit in an ostentatious or aggressive manner

§571.030​

​

1. A person commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons, except as otherwise provided by sections 571.101 to 571.121 , if he or she knowingly:​

​

(4) Exhibits, in the presence of one or more persons, any weapon readily capable of lethal use in an angry or threatening manner;​

​

5. Subdivisions (3), (4), (5), (6), (7), (8), (9), and (10) of subsection 1 of this section shall not apply to persons who are engaged in a lawful act of defense pursuant to section 563.031.​

​

§563.031​

​

1. A person may, subject to the provisions of subsection 2 of this section, use physical force upon another person when and to the extent he or she reasonably believes such force to be necessary to defend himself or herself or a third person from what he or she reasonably believes to be the use or imminent use of unlawful force by such other person, unless:​

​

(1) The actor was the initial aggressor;  except that in such case his or her use of force is nevertheless justifiable provided:​

§565.056​

​

1. A person commits the offense of assault in the fourth degree if: ​

​

(3) The person purposely places another person in apprehension of immediate physical injury;​

 

[Ame®icano]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

Yes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.

You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.

Right, and they will just leave, right?

By the way, what they were doing on the private property anyways?

I saw people marching to the mayor's house to protest in front of his house.

The mayor lived Blocks away the other direction

The protesters said they took the route they chose because the city had blocked streets.

So they break into a gated community that they did not have permission to be on to take a shortcut? That makes it fine and dandy, lil faun? 200 to 300 hundred angry SJWs that have already proven that they are prone to violence, the police given stand down orders to let this collection of human garbage to rampage sans consequences. Leftard pussbags like yourself seem to believe that they should huddle in their home and hope these thugs don't start ripping shit up and knocking out windows. I also heard the trash talking these alleged "peaceful protestors" were spewing. Vulgar, threatening and intimidating. It doesn't appear to me that these commie fucks were afraid in the slightest,....apprehensive because they are cowards at heart, but they were not "fearful". I wouldn't have shed a tear if McCloskey had emptied his entire arsenal on these thugs.

Let's see your evidence any one of those protesters committed any acts of violence before guns were pulled on them...

Let's see your evidence they threatened the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...

Let's see your evidence they trash talked the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...

Let's see your evidence they're commies...

You spout a lot of bullshit made up from the whole cloth spun from inside your deranged conspiratorial empty head.

Fuckface faun, an estimated crowd of 500 angry SJW thugs break down the gate of a secured, gated community that has been zoned as much, these fucks chant loudly, some of which are armed as they are walking down my street? I wouldn't feel the need to wait and see what their intentions were before I showed them that they better keep on moving their sorry asses down the road. If it means pointing a lock and loaded AR-15 with multiple magazines at the ready as I stand on my own property to insure that they realize that their bullshit, thuggish behavior will be met with some hollow-points to those empty skulls of theirs if they step on my property? So be it. They had no right to meander, threaten or attempt to intimidate this couple on their own property. These sorry sorry pieces of commie shit that trespass, vandalize and act like they own the place had the unmitigated galll to get their panties in a wad because someone stood up to them? That is hilarious and it shows what pussy snowflakes that they are.....my only regret is that the trash-talking wimps didn't get their knee-caps shot off. I can definitely understand how your tender, snowflake like heart was breaking at the mere thought of these marxist sacks of shit being put in their place.

(snicker)

BLM IS a commie front group, dipshit.......

BTW, in the urban dictionary "faun" is a sexualized pre-adolescent boy....certainly describes your mental capabilities. Only God knows what perversions you engage in. I bet the neighborhood kids give you a wide berth or at least they should.

(snicker)

"Fuckface faun, an estimated crowd of 500 angry SJW thugs break down the gate..."

... that's as far as I got in your delusional diatribe as that is not true. Guns were drawn on that crowd before the gate was broken. You lose again like always because you're fucked in tbe head and have no clue what you're talking about.

Did they breach the secured and gated community? Ummmm, yes......were the McCloskeys well within their right to stand their ground and secure their property? Ummmmm, yes. Were these commie fucks trespassing? Ummm, yes, since they didn't have a gate card to enter and broke the gate. I wholeheartedly support the McCloskeys and what they did.l Don't like it? Tough shit.....these commie fucks are lucky that they showed at least some good sense and didn't push the issue or they would still be cleaning up commie brain matter and guts off of the streets....not that I would give a fuck if they all croaked.

Commie lives don't matter, faun, the perv.

They weren't trespassing on the McCloskey's property. That you're too fucked in the head to comprehend that is your problem.

Regardless, you lied (or hallucinated) that breaking the gate justified the McCloskey's armed response since the guns came out before the gate was broken.

What you typed I do not know. But for a period of a month or so before death, destruction and mayhem was packaged as protests in many blue areas. It would be easy to believe personal safety could have been compromised.

That would be like saying James Fields was justified to mow down a crowd of protesters because other protesters were acting violently. The crowd that marched into Portland Place made no threats, neither verbally nor non-verbally when Mark McCloskey brandished his firearm. The gate was not yet broken and the protesters were walking in the street ... until they spotted McCloskey standing on his porch with an AR-15. It was only then that some protesters got up on the sidewalk (still not McCloskey property) and some started making threats.

"crowd made no threats"

LOL

Breaking into private property is a threat.

No, it's not. An actual threat is a felonious assault. Walking onto private property at worst is a misdemeanor.

"walking"

Let me guess. They were walking peacefully. Then they broke into private property. And since gate was unlocked, they were technically all invited. Right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah Beavis...

Breaking into property are not a threat. And means no harm.

Cool, send me your address on PM. I'd like to peacefully walk into your property, with couple of my friends. Leave the door unlocked. We'll mean no harm.

 

[Doc7505]

Again ... tney weren't on tne McCloskey's property.

You lying asshole.

I know you Moon Bats are uneducated and low information and sometimes are just confused but in this case it is a blatant lie.

Are you really this stupid?

What stupidity are you going to claim next, that the McCloskeys had the guns out before the Neggra/Communist mob threatened them? Oh wait, you already did that.

LOLOL

You racist dumbfuck, it was Mark McCloskey himself who admitted he had his gun out before anyone threatened him.

I asked you to prove that but being the little little coward you are you chickenshitted out.

You have no credibility with stupid shit like that because we know you lie. Either lying or simply delusional as hell. Probably both.

By the way, are you a male? Because "Faun" is kind of an effeminate name. Homo or Transsexual Moon Bat? That would explain you being so upset with a heterosexual threatened couple keeping and bearing arms.

And I said I would post it if any non-racists ask me. I don't oblige racist pieces of shit like you.

As far as my forum name, I took it from the movie which features El Fauno as seen in my avatar. That you find that effeminate speaks volumes about you, not me.

I think it is obvious you were lying about the McCloskeys. Too cowardly to back up your lies.

I also think it is probable that you are a homo or transsexual. Most Moon Bats are. It would be unlikely that you are the exception.

Nope, you're merely nuts. In fact, I've already posted the video on this forum where he admits he pulled out his gun before there were threats. He also says he drew his weapon before they ever got to his house. So he didn't even know if they were going to walk past his house or not, at that point.

Openly possessing a weapon and having it in your hands on your own property is not against law and is in fact a right protected by the US Constitution. And in this instance proved to be the wisest action they could have taken.

LOLOL

You seriously think you can stand on your front yard and point your gun at folks walking by?

You sound fucking crazy. You prolly shouldn't be allowed to own a gun.

If you destroy the entrance gate to my property, then shout vile epithets at me with threats of killing my family you better believe I will arm myself to protect my family.
As a intelligent gun owner I would not have brandished my weapon but it certainly would have been handy if anyone would have decided I was a potential victim

 

[9thIDdoc]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

They were clear? How?

heh - now try this one on on pknopp -

how do i tell the difference from a peaceful protest and rioters who ARE IN FACT rioting and killing people in the streets?

like you say hadit - how can you tell? given what has been going on lately i'm not sure how you know a group of people are peaceful when the only thing you know is:

1. mobs are destroying everything in their path
2. they tore down the gate to your private property

great question you won't get a good answer for.

They didn't "tear down the gate" until after guns were pulled on them.

You don't know that and it doesn't really matter anyway. They probably appeared to pose a threat even before they got there and having a weapon in hand is a far cry from "...pulling a gun on...". I can't say for sure about this particular mob but many rioters lately have brandished bats and clubs and stones and could easily have been considered armed and dangerous. The actual crime here is that law breakers were allowed to commit crimes without being arrested by the police.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Look, if they broke the law, as the law reads, then the prosecutors have to make the charge.... They can't enforce it when they like it, and not enforce it when they don't....

Justice is suppose to be blind.

But I think this could be a perfect example, of where the Governor can or should use their pardoning power....

And maybe their legislature needs to revisit the law they wrote and make it more clear, revise it....

"Look, if they broke the law, as the law reads, then the prosecutors have to make the charge.... They can't enforce it when they like it, and not enforce it when they don't...."

But what's good for the goose...
Wonder how many criminal (or simple) trespassers were arrested?
In many places the AG is the one who determines whether there is sufficient evidence to warrant charges. No evidence of wrong doing=no reason for an expensive trial. And why go through a trial if the Gov. is going to let them walk even if they are found guilty? The mayor is just hoping that she can get them to plead guilty in exchange for light punishment which would vindicate her botched handling of the matter.

 

[hadit]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

They were clear? How?

heh - now try this one on on pknopp -

how do i tell the difference from a peaceful protest and rioters who ARE IN FACT rioting and killing people in the streets?

like you say hadit - how can you tell? given what has been going on lately i'm not sure how you know a group of people are peaceful when the only thing you know is:

1. mobs are destroying everything in their path
2. they tore down the gate to your private property

great question you won't get a good answer for.

They didn't "tear down the gate" until after guns were pulled on them.

You know this how? IOW, how did they get onto private property to have guns shown to them if they were outside the gate?

I know this because there's video.

Let's get this straight. You have video that shows the mob OUTSIDE the gate, the homeowners coming OUT of their house with guns, threatening said mob, then the mob tears down the gate and trespasses on the homeowners' property. Is that what you're claiming? I'd like the see the idiots who actually took such action in the face of guns being aimed in their general direction. I mean, these are world class simpletons.

No, that's not what I'm claiming. Of course, you could simply watch the video yourself and learn what really did happen. My guess is you prefer to remain stupid.

You said, literally, " They didn't "tear down the gate" until after guns were pulled on them. "
Then when I asked how you knew that, you said, "I know this because there's video."

Now, in the real world where the rest of us live, that means that you've seen video of the mob tearing down the gate AFTER they saw the guns. Are you trying to say they tore it down in their haste to run away from the guns? Because I didn't think the video showed them fleeing in terror from the guns (which quite frankly, is not a bad idea, and is the whole point of a defensive gun use). Obviously, in your world it means something different. What that is, however, apparently no one knows.

Chalk this up as yet another in a long line of defensive gun uses in which no one got hurt.

 

[9thIDdoc]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

They were clear? How?

They let the neighbors know they were not interested in bothering them.

Did they also notify this couple of the same?

No idea if they were specifically told or not.

So, it probably was NOT clear to the couple that the mob meant them no harm. Hindsight from a distance is usually a lot clearer than immediate reaction in the moment. Do you think the outcome would have been different had members of the mob quietly told the couple that they were only interested in storming the Mayor's house and not their's instead of shouting at them? Obviously, this couple was scared. They had been seeing the violence directed at people like them, and they had a mob entering their private property with (likely) unknown intentions. Don't we all agree it's incumbent on the mob to at least make sure the people who own the property they are trespassing on know they are not in danger, and to leave quietly if the property owners tell them to?

Do you have a point?

you seem to be avoiding a pretty simple question.

he spelled it out clearly - HOW DID YOU KNOW THEY MEANT NO ONE HARM???

you can either answer it or you can play dodgeball and that answers it for you.

As you walk down a street on any given day, how do you know this about anyone? Now, what is the point?

But they weren't walking down the street. They were minding their own business in their own home until they were confronted by screaming rioters. Slight difference.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The mob was screaming threats to kill the McCloskys and their dog and sleep in their beds. That's why they went out with their weapons.

Learn something. Don't go out with unloaded weapons to scare a mob away. Stay in your home. Load your weapons and take up battle stations at the windows.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

They were clear? How?

heh - now try this one on on pknopp -

how do i tell the difference from a peaceful protest and rioters who ARE IN FACT rioting and killing people in the streets?

like you say hadit - how can you tell? given what has been going on lately i'm not sure how you know a group of people are peaceful when the only thing you know is:

1. mobs are destroying everything in their path
2. they tore down the gate to your private property

great question you won't get a good answer for.

They didn't "tear down the gate" until after guns were pulled on them.

You know this how? IOW, how did they get onto private property to have guns shown to them if they were outside the gate?

I know this because there's video.

Let's get this straight. You have video that shows the mob OUTSIDE the gate, the homeowners coming OUT of their house with guns, threatening said mob, then the mob tears down the gate and trespasses on the homeowners' property. Is that what you're claiming? I'd like the see the idiots who actually took such action in the face of guns being aimed in their general direction. I mean, these are world class simpletons.

No, that's not what I'm claiming. Of course, you could simply watch the video yourself and learn what really did happen. My guess is you prefer to remain stupid.

You said, literally, " They didn't "tear down the gate" until after guns were pulled on them. "
Then when I asked how you knew that, you said, "I know this because there's video."

Now, in the real world where the rest of us live, that means that you've seen video of the mob tearing down the gate AFTER they saw the guns. Are you trying to say they tore it down in their haste to run away from the guns? Because I didn't think the video showed them fleeing in terror from the guns (which quite frankly, is not a bad idea, and is the whole point of a defensive gun use). Obviously, in your world it means something different. What that is, however, apparently no one knows.

Chalk this up as yet another in a long line of defensive gun uses in which no one got hurt.

In the real world, the mob tore down the gate to enter the property. That's how the gate got torn down.

 

[9thIDdoc]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

They were clear? How?

They let the neighbors know they were not interested in bothering them.

Did they also notify this couple of the same?

No idea if they were specifically told or not.

So, it probably was NOT clear to the couple that the mob meant them no harm. Hindsight from a distance is usually a lot clearer than immediate reaction in the moment. Do you think the outcome would have been different had members of the mob quietly told the couple that they were only interested in storming the Mayor's house and not their's instead of shouting at them? Obviously, this couple was scared. They had been seeing the violence directed at people like them, and they had a mob entering their private property with (likely) unknown intentions. Don't we all agree it's incumbent on the mob to at least make sure the people who own the property they are trespassing on know they are not in danger, and to leave quietly if the property owners tell them to?

Do you have a point?

Of course I do. I believe the couple was justified in warning the mob to stay off their property, and I don't agree that they should have been expected to assume that the mob was peaceful.

Which is fine. Others are just as justified in not willing to give up their rights.

But the "protesters" had no right to be there.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Only in your Communist wet dreams is what they did illegal.

And of course, in the Legal Statute of the Law....

which legal statute? i suppose now the state is wrong for getting the case dismissed?

prove your point for one in your overall useless life.

what laws did they break. look them up and tell me specifically why they were broken. don't just scream they were, don't cite the bitch who went after them.

remove all and do your own legwork and explain to me with links which MO laws this couple broke.

bet ya $10 you can't do it.

Idiot.

565.056 Assault in the fourth degree​

​

565.056. 1. A person commits the offense of assault in the fourth degree if:​

​

(3) The person purposely places another person in apprehension of immediate physical injury;​

And the couple were correct in their response to assault by the mob. Glad you finally get it.