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Actually the rioters were on private property having illegally entered by breaking open a gate and threatening the security guard stationed there. Their being there itself posed a clear and present threat to which the occupants had every right and duty to respond.It's not my problem you're too rightarded to comprehend their guns were drawn before they were threatened.Yes, he can do that. Regrettably for him, that's not what he was doing. What he can't do is threaten someone with his gun who has not threatened him while committed a felony or was in the commission of committing a felony.It’s his property why can’t he carry is weapon?LOLOLLet's see your evidence any one of those protesters committed any acts of violence before guns were pulled on them...So they break into a gated community that they did not have permission to be on to take a shortcut? That makes it fine and dandy, lil faun? 200 to 300 hundred angry SJWs that have already proven that they are prone to violence, the police given stand down orders to let this collection of human garbage to rampage sans consequences. Leftard pussbags like yourself seem to believe that they should huddle in their home and hope these thugs don't start ripping shit up and knocking out windows. I also heard the trash talking these alleged "peaceful protestors" were spewing. Vulgar, threatening and intimidating. It doesn't appear to me that these commie fucks were afraid in the slightest,....apprehensive because they are cowards at heart, but they were not "fearful". I wouldn't have shed a tear if McCloskey had emptied his entire arsenal on these thugs.The protesters said they took the route they chose because the city had blocked streets.The mayor lived Blocks away the other directionYes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.
Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.
You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.
Right, and they will just leave, right?
By the way, what they were doing on the private property anyways?
I saw people marching to the mayor's house to protest in front of his house.
Let's see your evidence they threatened the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...
Let's see your evidence they trash talked the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...
Let's see your evidence they're commies...
You spout a lot of bullshit made up from the whole cloth spun from inside your deranged conspiratorial empty head.
Fuckface faun, an estimated crowd of 500 angry SJW thugs break down the gate of a secured, gated community that has been zoned as much, these fucks chant loudly, some of which are armed as they are walking down my street? I wouldn't feel the need to wait and see what their intentions were before I showed them that they better keep on moving their sorry asses down the road. If it means pointing a lock and loaded AR-15 with multiple magazines at the ready as I stand on my own property to insure that they realize that their bullshit, thuggish behavior will be met with some hollow-points to those empty skulls of theirs if they step on my property? So be it. They had no right to meander, threaten or attempt to intimidate this couple on their own property. These sorry sorry pieces of commie shit that trespass, vandalize and act like they own the place had the unmitigated galll to get their panties in a wad because someone stood up to them? That is hilarious and it shows what pussy snowflakes that they are.....my only regret is that the trash-talking wimps didn't get their knee-caps shot off. I can definitely understand how your tender, snowflake like heart was breaking at the mere thought of these marxist sacks of shit being put in their place.
(snicker)
BLM IS a commie front group, dipshit.......
BTW, in the urban dictionary "faun" is a sexualized pre-adolescent boy....certainly describes your mental capabilities. Only God knows what perversions you engage in. I bet the neighborhood kids give you a wide berth or at least they should.
(snicker)
My husband, attorney at law, says it's overreach and they'll walk. They have the Second behind them and Missouri stand your ground laws.
He also said Kim Gardner must have benefited from Affirmative Action because she's obviously not aware of either state law nor Constitutional law.
You idiot. They don't have a stand your ground defense. Stand your ground means you don't have to retreat when you feel threatened with death or serious physical harm. Mark McCloskey brandished his firearm before he felt threatened; thereby removing a required key element to stand your ground.
He can, he can sit on his porch chewing on a cigar cleaning his gun
Gardner won't win this
Listen up "Faun" get your law degree and then comment, you look as fucking stupid as Gardner
The couple have every goddamn right to defend life and property under Constitutional law and Missouri law.
That's just a fact, Twinkie
Now stop looking the fool you are, Gapped Ass
His violations of the 4th Amendment are not helping your case here.
This has nothing to do with the 4th amendment.
It is basically 1st amendment v 2nd amendment.
Do the commie/neggra assholes have the right to go onto somebody property and threaten them or do the people threaten have the right to bear arms to protect themselves from the mob? That is what it boils down to.
If anything the McCloskey's 4th Amendment rights were violate when some stupid uneducated Moon Bat judge issued the warrant to confiscate the AR-15.
This case doesn't have anything to do with the 4th. I was simply noting that Trump's violations of the 4th aren't going to help come November.
You see, one's rights are not based upon how others see how they affect their politics. It's too bad so many do not understand that.
What violations of the 4th? be specific.
We have been discussing it in many threads.
I don't have the inclination to look at "many threads".
You made the statement on this thread so tell me how Trump has violated your 4th Amendment rights.
He hasn't violated mine.
Fox's Napolitano rips 'unconstitutional' Trump crackdown on Portland: 'Just plain wrong'
You mean the Portland thingy. Why didn't you say so?
American Presidents have intervened in the states and cities many times in the life of the Republic.
The biggest one was when that piece of shit Lincoln sent an Army to invade 1/3rd of America and kill Americans, burn down their cities and take away their arms and we have a goddamn memorial to him in DC.
That asshole JFK sent federal marshals to get a Neggra in a state funded college. They have an eternal flame to him at Arlington.
Washington sent federal troops to put down the Whiskey rebellion. It was all over taxes. Talk about Federal intervention but yet Washington is revered by all Americans except the hate filled Moon Bats.
If you think Trump is correct in doing what the Democrat turds in the big city shitholes are too cowardly to do then it is fine. If you side with the Neggras and Communists then you won't like what he is doing.
If it was up to me I would just let these big city shitholes destroy themselves and absolutely no Federal money to rebuild. Serves the fuckers right, don't you think?
As I've said many times.......Trump may not be a racist but he sure appeals to them.
"Fuckface faun, an estimated crowd of 500 angry SJW thugs break down the gate..."Let's see your evidence any one of those protesters committed any acts of violence before guns were pulled on them...So they break into a gated community that they did not have permission to be on to take a shortcut? That makes it fine and dandy, lil faun? 200 to 300 hundred angry SJWs that have already proven that they are prone to violence, the police given stand down orders to let this collection of human garbage to rampage sans consequences. Leftard pussbags like yourself seem to believe that they should huddle in their home and hope these thugs don't start ripping shit up and knocking out windows. I also heard the trash talking these alleged "peaceful protestors" were spewing. Vulgar, threatening and intimidating. It doesn't appear to me that these commie fucks were afraid in the slightest,....apprehensive because they are cowards at heart, but they were not "fearful". I wouldn't have shed a tear if McCloskey had emptied his entire arsenal on these thugs.The protesters said they took the route they chose because the city had blocked streets.The mayor lived Blocks away the other directionYes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.
Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.
You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.
Right, and they will just leave, right?
By the way, what they were doing on the private property anyways?
I saw people marching to the mayor's house to protest in front of his house.
Let's see your evidence they threatened the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...
Let's see your evidence they trash talked the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...
Let's see your evidence they're commies...
You spout a lot of bullshit made up from the whole cloth spun from inside your deranged conspiratorial empty head.
Fuckface faun, an estimated crowd of 500 angry SJW thugs break down the gate of a secured, gated community that has been zoned as much, these fucks chant loudly, some of which are armed as they are walking down my street? I wouldn't feel the need to wait and see what their intentions were before I showed them that they better keep on moving their sorry asses down the road. If it means pointing a lock and loaded AR-15 with multiple magazines at the ready as I stand on my own property to insure that they realize that their bullshit, thuggish behavior will be met with some hollow-points to those empty skulls of theirs if they step on my property? So be it. They had no right to meander, threaten or attempt to intimidate this couple on their own property. These sorry sorry pieces of commie shit that trespass, vandalize and act like they own the place had the unmitigated galll to get their panties in a wad because someone stood up to them? That is hilarious and it shows what pussy snowflakes that they are.....my only regret is that the trash-talking wimps didn't get their knee-caps shot off. I can definitely understand how your tender, snowflake like heart was breaking at the mere thought of these marxist sacks of shit being put in their place.
(snicker)
BLM IS a commie front group, dipshit.......
BTW, in the urban dictionary "faun" is a sexualized pre-adolescent boy....certainly describes your mental capabilities. Only God knows what perversions you engage in. I bet the neighborhood kids give you a wide berth or at least they should.
(snicker)
... that's as far as I got in your delusional diatribe as that is not true. Guns were drawn on that crowd before the gate was broken. You lose again like always because you're fucked in tbe head and have no clue what you're talking about.
Did they breach the secured and gated community? Ummmm, yes......were the McCloskeys well within their right to stand their ground and secure their property? Ummmmm, yes. Were these commie fucks trespassing? Ummm, yes, since they didn't have a gate card to enter and broke the gate. I wholeheartedly support the McCloskeys and what they did.l Don't like it? Tough shit.....these commie fucks are lucky that they showed at least some good sense and didn't push the issue or they would still be cleaning up commie brain matter and guts off of the streets....not that I would give a fuck if they all croaked.
Commie lives don't matter, faun, the perv.
They weren't trespassing on the McCloskey's property. That you're too fucked in the head to comprehend that is your problem.
Regardless, you lied (or hallucinated) that breaking the gate justified the McCloskey's armed response since the guns came out before the gate was broken.
What you typed I do not know. But for a period of a month or so before death, destruction and mayhem was packaged as protests in many blue areas. It would be easy to believe personal safety could have been compromised.
That would be like saying James Fields was justified to mow down a crowd of protesters because other protesters were acting violently. The crowd that marched into Portland Place made no threats, neither verbally nor non-verbally when Mark McCloskey brandished his firearm. The gate was not yet broken and the protesters were walking in the street ... until they spotted McCloskey standing on his porch with an AR-15. It was only then that some protesters got up on the sidewalk (still not McCloskey property) and some started making threats.
That couple may have been in fear. How do you react? The architects of fear who promote this every day on TV have played their role.
Do people in fear approach the group they fear with guns that don't fire? What kind of imbecile does that?
Actually the rioters were on private property having illegally entered by breaking open a gate and threatening the security guard stationed there. Their being there itself posed a clear and present threat to which the occupants had every right and duty to respond.It's not my problem you're too rightarded to comprehend their guns were drawn before they were threatened.Yes, he can do that. Regrettably for him, that's not what he was doing. What he can't do is threaten someone with his gun who has not threatened him while committed a felony or was in the commission of committing a felony.It’s his property why can’t he carry is weapon?LOLOLLet's see your evidence any one of those protesters committed any acts of violence before guns were pulled on them...So they break into a gated community that they did not have permission to be on to take a shortcut? That makes it fine and dandy, lil faun? 200 to 300 hundred angry SJWs that have already proven that they are prone to violence, the police given stand down orders to let this collection of human garbage to rampage sans consequences. Leftard pussbags like yourself seem to believe that they should huddle in their home and hope these thugs don't start ripping shit up and knocking out windows. I also heard the trash talking these alleged "peaceful protestors" were spewing. Vulgar, threatening and intimidating. It doesn't appear to me that these commie fucks were afraid in the slightest,....apprehensive because they are cowards at heart, but they were not "fearful". I wouldn't have shed a tear if McCloskey had emptied his entire arsenal on these thugs.The protesters said they took the route they chose because the city had blocked streets.The mayor lived Blocks away the other directionYes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.
Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.
You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.
Right, and they will just leave, right?
By the way, what they were doing on the private property anyways?
I saw people marching to the mayor's house to protest in front of his house.
Let's see your evidence they threatened the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...
Let's see your evidence they trash talked the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...
Let's see your evidence they're commies...
You spout a lot of bullshit made up from the whole cloth spun from inside your deranged conspiratorial empty head.
Fuckface faun, an estimated crowd of 500 angry SJW thugs break down the gate of a secured, gated community that has been zoned as much, these fucks chant loudly, some of which are armed as they are walking down my street? I wouldn't feel the need to wait and see what their intentions were before I showed them that they better keep on moving their sorry asses down the road. If it means pointing a lock and loaded AR-15 with multiple magazines at the ready as I stand on my own property to insure that they realize that their bullshit, thuggish behavior will be met with some hollow-points to those empty skulls of theirs if they step on my property? So be it. They had no right to meander, threaten or attempt to intimidate this couple on their own property. These sorry sorry pieces of commie shit that trespass, vandalize and act like they own the place had the unmitigated galll to get their panties in a wad because someone stood up to them? That is hilarious and it shows what pussy snowflakes that they are.....my only regret is that the trash-talking wimps didn't get their knee-caps shot off. I can definitely understand how your tender, snowflake like heart was breaking at the mere thought of these marxist sacks of shit being put in their place.
(snicker)
BLM IS a commie front group, dipshit.......
BTW, in the urban dictionary "faun" is a sexualized pre-adolescent boy....certainly describes your mental capabilities. Only God knows what perversions you engage in. I bet the neighborhood kids give you a wide berth or at least they should.
(snicker)
My husband, attorney at law, says it's overreach and they'll walk. They have the Second behind them and Missouri stand your ground laws.
He also said Kim Gardner must have benefited from Affirmative Action because she's obviously not aware of either state law nor Constitutional law.
You idiot. They don't have a stand your ground defense. Stand your ground means you don't have to retreat when you feel threatened with death or serious physical harm. Mark McCloskey brandished his firearm before he felt threatened; thereby removing a required key element to stand your ground.
He can, he can sit on his porch chewing on a cigar cleaning his gun
Gardner won't win this
Listen up "Faun" get your law degree and then comment, you look as fucking stupid as Gardner
The couple have every goddamn right to defend life and property under Constitutional law and Missouri law.
That's just a fact, Twinkie
Now stop looking the fool you are, Gapped Ass
LOLOL"They were facing an angry mob on their property."Again ... tney weren't on tne McCloskey's property.
Liar!!!!!!
You are like all Moon Bats. You are uneducated and low information.
Here are the facts:
They were facing an angry mob on their property. And this was in the context of an extended period of violence and arson in the surrounding neighborhoods. Media reports of them "taking it to the suburbs" were as credible as anything the press has reported lately. The police had advised them they would not be responding. Some of the protesters were taunting them with death threats giving more of an appearance of a lynch mob than a weekly Bible study group. A metal gate had been smashed to gain entry to the property. They were entirely reasonable in their actions. If anything, they were a bit reserved about it. You can't say they had planned or laid a trap seeing as how they didn't even have shoes on during the incident.
So go fuck yourself Moon Bat.
Wrong. The crowd was not on their property.
And the husband had his gun drawn before he was threatened. It's all on video, including the video of the husband admitting he brandished his firearm before any threats were made.
The goons broke down a gate to a gated community. They had every right to brandish weapons to protect life and property.
That's the law, Moonbat
Watch the video, ya loon. The gun is out before the gate is "broke down."
Actually the rioters were on private property having illegally entered by breaking open a gate and threatening the security guard stationed there. Their being there itself posed a clear and present threat to which the occupants had every right and duty to respond.It's not my problem you're too rightarded to comprehend their guns were drawn before they were threatened.Yes, he can do that. Regrettably for him, that's not what he was doing. What he can't do is threaten someone with his gun who has not threatened him while committed a felony or was in the commission of committing a felony.It’s his property why can’t he carry is weapon?LOLOLLet's see your evidence any one of those protesters committed any acts of violence before guns were pulled on them...So they break into a gated community that they did not have permission to be on to take a shortcut? That makes it fine and dandy, lil faun? 200 to 300 hundred angry SJWs that have already proven that they are prone to violence, the police given stand down orders to let this collection of human garbage to rampage sans consequences. Leftard pussbags like yourself seem to believe that they should huddle in their home and hope these thugs don't start ripping shit up and knocking out windows. I also heard the trash talking these alleged "peaceful protestors" were spewing. Vulgar, threatening and intimidating. It doesn't appear to me that these commie fucks were afraid in the slightest,....apprehensive because they are cowards at heart, but they were not "fearful". I wouldn't have shed a tear if McCloskey had emptied his entire arsenal on these thugs.The protesters said they took the route they chose because the city had blocked streets.The mayor lived Blocks away the other directionYes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.
Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.
You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.
Right, and they will just leave, right?
By the way, what they were doing on the private property anyways?
I saw people marching to the mayor's house to protest in front of his house.
Let's see your evidence they threatened the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...
Let's see your evidence they trash talked the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...
Let's see your evidence they're commies...
You spout a lot of bullshit made up from the whole cloth spun from inside your deranged conspiratorial empty head.
Fuckface faun, an estimated crowd of 500 angry SJW thugs break down the gate of a secured, gated community that has been zoned as much, these fucks chant loudly, some of which are armed as they are walking down my street? I wouldn't feel the need to wait and see what their intentions were before I showed them that they better keep on moving their sorry asses down the road. If it means pointing a lock and loaded AR-15 with multiple magazines at the ready as I stand on my own property to insure that they realize that their bullshit, thuggish behavior will be met with some hollow-points to those empty skulls of theirs if they step on my property? So be it. They had no right to meander, threaten or attempt to intimidate this couple on their own property. These sorry sorry pieces of commie shit that trespass, vandalize and act like they own the place had the unmitigated galll to get their panties in a wad because someone stood up to them? That is hilarious and it shows what pussy snowflakes that they are.....my only regret is that the trash-talking wimps didn't get their knee-caps shot off. I can definitely understand how your tender, snowflake like heart was breaking at the mere thought of these marxist sacks of shit being put in their place.
(snicker)
BLM IS a commie front group, dipshit.......
BTW, in the urban dictionary "faun" is a sexualized pre-adolescent boy....certainly describes your mental capabilities. Only God knows what perversions you engage in. I bet the neighborhood kids give you a wide berth or at least they should.
(snicker)
My husband, attorney at law, says it's overreach and they'll walk. They have the Second behind them and Missouri stand your ground laws.
He also said Kim Gardner must have benefited from Affirmative Action because she's obviously not aware of either state law nor Constitutional law.
You idiot. They don't have a stand your ground defense. Stand your ground means you don't have to retreat when you feel threatened with death or serious physical harm. Mark McCloskey brandished his firearm before he felt threatened; thereby removing a required key element to stand your ground.
He can, he can sit on his porch chewing on a cigar cleaning his gun
Gardner won't win this
Listen up "Faun" get your law degree and then comment, you look as fucking stupid as Gardner
The couple have every goddamn right to defend life and property under Constitutional law and Missouri law.
That's just a fact, Twinkie
Now stop looking the fool you are, Gapped Ass
His violations of the 4th Amendment are not helping your case here.
This has nothing to do with the 4th amendment.
It is basically 1st amendment v 2nd amendment.
Do the commie/neggra assholes have the right to go onto somebody property and threaten them or do the people threaten have the right to bear arms to protect themselves from the mob? That is what it boils down to.
If anything the McCloskey's 4th Amendment rights were violate when some stupid uneducated Moon Bat judge issued the warrant to confiscate the AR-15.
This case doesn't have anything to do with the 4th. I was simply noting that Trump's violations of the 4th aren't going to help come November.
You see, one's rights are not based upon how others see how they affect their politics. It's too bad so many do not understand that.
What violations of the 4th? be specific.
We have been discussing it in many threads.
I don't have the inclination to look at "many threads".
You made the statement on this thread so tell me how Trump has violated your 4th Amendment rights.
He hasn't violated mine.
Fox's Napolitano rips 'unconstitutional' Trump crackdown on Portland: 'Just plain wrong'
You mean the Portland thingy. Why didn't you say so?
American Presidents have intervened in the states and cities many times in the life of the Republic.
The biggest one was when that piece of shit Lincoln sent an Army to invade 1/3rd of America and kill Americans, burn down their cities and take away their arms and we have a goddamn memorial to him in DC.
That asshole JFK sent federal marshals to get a Neggra in a state funded college. They have an eternal flame to him at Arlington.
Washington sent federal troops to put down the Whiskey rebellion. It was all over taxes. Talk about Federal intervention but yet Washington is revered by all Americans except the hate filled Moon Bats.
If you think Trump is correct in doing what the Democrat turds in the big city shitholes are too cowardly to do then it is fine. If you side with the Neggras and Communists then you won't like what he is doing.
If it was up to me I would just let these big city shitholes destroy themselves and absolutely no Federal money to rebuild. Serves the fuckers right, don't you think?
As I've said many times.......Trump may not be a racist but he sure appeals to them.
Just like Obama appealed to the ghetto assholes?
Openly possessing a weapon and having it in your hands on your own property is not against law and is in fact a right protected by the US Constitution. And in this instance proved to be the wisest action they could have taken.Nope, you're merely nuts. In fact, I've already posted the video on this forum where he admits he pulled out his gun before there were threats. He also says he drew his weapon before they ever got to his house. So he didn't even know if they were going to walk past his house or not, at that point.And I said I would post it if any non-racists ask me. I don't oblige racist pieces of shit like you.LOLOLAgain ... tney weren't on tne McCloskey's property.
You lying asshole.
I know you Moon Bats are uneducated and low information and sometimes are just confused but in this case it is a blatant lie.
Are you really this stupid?
What stupidity are you going to claim next, that the McCloskeys had the guns out before the Neggra/Communist mob threatened them? Oh wait, you already did that.
You racist dumbfuck, it was Mark McCloskey himself who admitted he had his gun out before anyone threatened him.
I asked you to prove that but being the little little coward you are you chickenshitted out.
You have no credibility with stupid shit like that because we know you lie. Either lying or simply delusional as hell. Probably both.
By the way, are you a male? Because "Faun" is kind of an effeminate name. Homo or Transsexual Moon Bat? That would explain you being so upset with a heterosexual threatened couple keeping and bearing arms.
As far as my forum name, I took it from the movie which features El Fauno as seen in my avatar. That you find that effeminate speaks volumes about you, not me.
I think it is obvious you were lying about the McCloskeys. Too cowardly to back up your lies.
I also think it is probable that you are a homo or transsexual. Most Moon Bats are. It would be unlikely that you are the exception.
He can’t.. I asked to elaborate...Those threats came after the McCloskey's already threatened their lives with guns.They were threatening too.. to kill them, kill their animalsAgain ... tney weren't on tne McCloskey's property.That same crowd walked past many houses. They didn't touch one. The McCloskey's were not threatened by them. They had no legal right to assault that crowd.None since trespassing is a class B misdemeanor in Missouri, not a felony. Are you always this melodramatic?Easy.They are charged with a felony so the government can confiscate their firearms.
She has to prove first that they break the law.
Care to explain what law did they break?
565.056 said:565.056 said:1. A person commits the offense of assault in the fourth degree if: (3) The person purposely places another person in apprehension of immediate physical injury;
Uhm-um...
Sooooo. how many "protesters" were charged with felony for breaking into private property and apprehended the property owners with their presence?
Oh, now they were "trespassing". I mean, there is a screaming mob, beating drums, breaking into property, and there is no reason to worry at all?
Why would McCloskeys even feel threatened to pull the guns out? No reason at all.
Yet somehow in your head, breaking into property is not a threat, but reaction to break in is.
This is part where you try to convince me that people who break into someone property have good intentions. Maybe they just wanted to fix the plumbing, paint some art on the outside, and peacefully mow the lawn.
You still haven't answered, why would McCloskey "threatened" their lives?
Let's get this straight. You have video that shows the mob OUTSIDE the gate, the homeowners coming OUT of their house with guns, threatening said mob, then the mob tears down the gate and trespasses on the homeowners' property. Is that what you're claiming? I'd like the see the idiots who actually took such action in the face of guns being aimed in their general direction. I mean, these are world class simpletons.I know this because there's video.You know this how? IOW, how did they get onto private property to have guns shown to them if they were outside the gate?They didn't "tear down the gate" until after guns were pulled on them.heh - now try this one on on pknopp -They were clear? How?So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.
Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.
how do i tell the difference from a peaceful protest and rioters who ARE IN FACT rioting and killing people in the streets?
like you say hadit - how can you tell? given what has been going on lately i'm not sure how you know a group of people are peaceful when the only thing you know is:
1. mobs are destroying everything in their path
2. they tore down the gate to your private property
great question you won't get a good answer for.
Yes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.
Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.
You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.
Yes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.
Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.
You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.
And what if they don't?
Unlike you I know how fast a person can move. So, you either present your weapon and let the rioters see you are armed, or you get over run.
They were not brandishing either. Faun, as usual, is ignorant of the law.
I see no video. Maybe the video started after the lock was broken. Doesn't really matter they had obviously entered private property without permission and without cause to do so. Evil intent was evident. They should be happy they weren't shot.Actually the rioters were on private property having illegally entered by breaking open a gate and threatening the security guard stationed there. Their being there itself posed a clear and present threat to which the occupants had every right and duty to respond.It's not my problem you're too rightarded to comprehend their guns were drawn before they were threatened.Yes, he can do that. Regrettably for him, that's not what he was doing. What he can't do is threaten someone with his gun who has not threatened him while committed a felony or was in the commission of committing a felony.It’s his property why can’t he carry is weapon?LOLOLLet's see your evidence any one of those protesters committed any acts of violence before guns were pulled on them...So they break into a gated community that they did not have permission to be on to take a shortcut? That makes it fine and dandy, lil faun? 200 to 300 hundred angry SJWs that have already proven that they are prone to violence, the police given stand down orders to let this collection of human garbage to rampage sans consequences. Leftard pussbags like yourself seem to believe that they should huddle in their home and hope these thugs don't start ripping shit up and knocking out windows. I also heard the trash talking these alleged "peaceful protestors" were spewing. Vulgar, threatening and intimidating. It doesn't appear to me that these commie fucks were afraid in the slightest,....apprehensive because they are cowards at heart, but they were not "fearful". I wouldn't have shed a tear if McCloskey had emptied his entire arsenal on these thugs.The protesters said they took the route they chose because the city had blocked streets.The mayor lived Blocks away the other directionYes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.
Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.
You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.
Right, and they will just leave, right?
By the way, what they were doing on the private property anyways?
I saw people marching to the mayor's house to protest in front of his house.
Let's see your evidence they threatened the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...
Let's see your evidence they trash talked the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...
Let's see your evidence they're commies...
You spout a lot of bullshit made up from the whole cloth spun from inside your deranged conspiratorial empty head.
Fuckface faun, an estimated crowd of 500 angry SJW thugs break down the gate of a secured, gated community that has been zoned as much, these fucks chant loudly, some of which are armed as they are walking down my street? I wouldn't feel the need to wait and see what their intentions were before I showed them that they better keep on moving their sorry asses down the road. If it means pointing a lock and loaded AR-15 with multiple magazines at the ready as I stand on my own property to insure that they realize that their bullshit, thuggish behavior will be met with some hollow-points to those empty skulls of theirs if they step on my property? So be it. They had no right to meander, threaten or attempt to intimidate this couple on their own property. These sorry sorry pieces of commie shit that trespass, vandalize and act like they own the place had the unmitigated galll to get their panties in a wad because someone stood up to them? That is hilarious and it shows what pussy snowflakes that they are.....my only regret is that the trash-talking wimps didn't get their knee-caps shot off. I can definitely understand how your tender, snowflake like heart was breaking at the mere thought of these marxist sacks of shit being put in their place.
(snicker)
BLM IS a commie front group, dipshit.......
BTW, in the urban dictionary "faun" is a sexualized pre-adolescent boy....certainly describes your mental capabilities. Only God knows what perversions you engage in. I bet the neighborhood kids give you a wide berth or at least they should.
(snicker)
My husband, attorney at law, says it's overreach and they'll walk. They have the Second behind them and Missouri stand your ground laws.
He also said Kim Gardner must have benefited from Affirmative Action because she's obviously not aware of either state law nor Constitutional law.
You idiot. They don't have a stand your ground defense. Stand your ground means you don't have to retreat when you feel threatened with death or serious physical harm. Mark McCloskey brandished his firearm before he felt threatened; thereby removing a required key element to stand your ground.
He can, he can sit on his porch chewing on a cigar cleaning his gun
Gardner won't win this
Listen up "Faun" get your law degree and then comment, you look as fucking stupid as Gardner
The couple have every goddamn right to defend life and property under Constitutional law and Missouri law.
That's just a fact, Twinkie
Now stop looking the fool you are, Gapped Ass
The video is available. They walk through the gate fully intact.
Yes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.
Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.
You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.
And what if they don't?
Unlike you I know how fast a person can move. So, you either present your weapon and let the rioters see you are armed, or you get over run.
They were not brandishing either. Faun, as usual, is ignorant of the law.
Seems to me they were but as I said, legally they can IMO.
You may not like it....but like I've said 100 times in the past.....you ain't seen NOTHING yet.
If you are still of the thinking that you can remain silent, and they won't come for your guns, you are sadly mistaken. They WILL.
"All that is required for evil men to prevail and deny ALL your "rights" is for good men to continue to do nothing"
And that's a guarantee
it is likely that up to 80% of Americans will RUN to turn in their weapons when they pass a new law saying it's a felony to possess
Then they will focus on the 20%, whittling that down to 5%
That final 5% will be met with brute force.
I GUARANTEE YOU WILL LOSE YOUR WEAPONS IF WE CONTINUE ON THE CURRENT PATH. PERIOD
If they win in November, the first serious push at confiscation will begin.
If you're not yet a solid participating member of a militia, you are first.
Of course I answered.Those threats came after the McCloskey's already threatened their lives with guns.They were threatening too.. to kill them, kill their animalsAgain ... tney weren't on tne McCloskey's property.That same crowd walked past many houses. They didn't touch one. The McCloskey's were not threatened by them. They had no legal right to assault that crowd.None since trespassing is a class B misdemeanor in Missouri, not a felony. Are you always this melodramatic?Easy.They are charged with a felony so the government can confiscate their firearms.
She has to prove first that they break the law.
Care to explain what law did they break?
565.056 said:565.056 said:1. A person commits the offense of assault in the fourth degree if: (3) The person purposely places another person in apprehension of immediate physical injury;
Uhm-um...
Sooooo. how many "protesters" were charged with felony for breaking into private property and apprehended the property owners with their presence?
Oh, now they were "trespassing". I mean, there is a screaming mob, beating drums, breaking into property, and there is no reason to worry at all?
Why would McCloskeys even feel threatened to pull the guns out? No reason at all.
Yet somehow in your head, breaking into property is not a threat, but reaction to break in is.
This is part where you try to convince me that people who break into someone property have good intentions. Maybe they just wanted to fix the plumbing, paint some art on the outside, and peacefully mow the lawn.
You still haven't answered, why would McCloskey "threatened" their lives?
It's still "breaking in" when you illegally enter private property, even if you don't physically break something to get in. But it's true, they did not break down the gate until after their lives were threatened by the McCloskeys.
lol
Now just how stupid do you sound?
"We didn't try to break in and harm them......UNTIL they pulled guns on us"......lmao
"Uh uh...we didn't wanna rob that bank, but the guards were armed and had their weapons in their hands, so we had too"
You are SUCH A FOOL TOOL
Yes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.
Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.
You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.
And what if they don't?
Unlike you I know how fast a person can move. So, you either present your weapon and let the rioters see you are armed, or you get over run.
They were not brandishing either. Faun, as usual, is ignorant of the law.
Seems to me they were but as I said, legally they can IMO.
They never pointed them directly at the rioters.
Idiot.Yes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.
Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.
You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.
And what if they don't?
Unlike you I know how fast a person can move. So, you either present your weapon and let the rioters see you are armed, or you get over run.
They were not brandishing either. Faun, as usual, is ignorant of the law.
Seems to me they were but as I said, legally they can IMO.
They never pointed them directly at the rioters.
It's still "breaking in" when you illegally enter private property, even if you don't physically break something to get in. But it's true, they did not break down the gate until after their lives were threatened by the McCloskeys.
lol
Now just how stupid do you sound?
"We didn't try to break in and harm them......UNTIL they pulled guns on us"......lmao
"Uh uh...we didn't wanna rob that bank, but the guards were armed and had their weapons in their hands, so we had too"
You are SUCH A FOOL TOOL
Check the headlines, all framed to exclude the fact that the mob broke into private property thru the gate and was trespassing in their backyard, despite the signs saying private street and private property.
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McCloskeys did not pointed guns on protesters. They pointed guns on trespassers who broke into their property.
