Breaking — McCloskeys charged with felony by Kim Gardner…

[miketx]

The evil bitch charges them with a felony, then says she will seek a diversionary program with no jail time. Duh, it is still a felony charge.

Breaking — McCloskeys charged with felony by Kim Gardner…

ST. LOUIS (AP) — St. Louis’ top prosecutor told The Associated Press on Monday that she is charging a white husband and wife with felony unlawful use of a weapon for displaying guns during a…

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Missouri Governor indicates that he will pardon them. Do it now, Mr. Governor.

Missouri Governor — ‘I will pardon’…

‘I will pardon the McCloskeys, they won’t spend any time in jail’ Missouri Gov. Mike Parson says he is prepared to exercise his pardon powers if prosecutors bring cr…

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And file charges on the DA for this bullshit

Who's gonna do that?

 

[freyasman]

So, what did we learn in this thread, children?

We need machine guns. That is correct.

 

[daveman]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

Remember, kids, threatening to kill someone and destroying their property doesn't mean you wish them harm.

Clearly.

pknopp laughed at this post.

That says a great deal about him. And none of it complimentary.

I laughed because no one was threatened. Well, the homeowners weren't.

Yes, I understand that's what you were told to believe.

 

[Faun]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

They were clear? How?

heh - now try this one on on pknopp -

how do i tell the difference from a peaceful protest and rioters who ARE IN FACT rioting and killing people in the streets?

like you say hadit - how can you tell? given what has been going on lately i'm not sure how you know a group of people are peaceful when the only thing you know is:

1. mobs are destroying everything in their path
2. they tore down the gate to your private property

great question you won't get a good answer for.

They didn't "tear down the gate" until after guns were pulled on them.

You know this how? IOW, how did they get onto private property to have guns shown to them if they were outside the gate?

I know this because there's video.

 

[Flash]

So, what did we learn in this thread, children?

We need machine guns. That is correct.

We also learned that if you are going to face a mob of illiterate hate filled Neggras and Communists you had better have high capacity magazines.

 

[Faun]

They didn't "tear down the gate" until after guns were pulled on them.

You have zero proof of the things you say. Your video did not show that at all

Therefore, it can only be surmised that you are adept at lying

Thanks for demonstrating you're batshit insane. Explains a lot actually.

 

[daveman]

The evil bitch charges them with a felony, then says she will seek a diversionary program with no jail time. Duh, it is still a felony charge.

Breaking — McCloskeys charged with felony by Kim Gardner…

ST. LOUIS (AP) — St. Louis’ top prosecutor told The Associated Press on Monday that she is charging a white husband and wife with felony unlawful use of a weapon for displaying guns during a…

www.citizenfreepress.com

Missouri Governor indicates that he will pardon them. Do it now, Mr. Governor.

Missouri Governor — ‘I will pardon’…

‘I will pardon the McCloskeys, they won’t spend any time in jail’ Missouri Gov. Mike Parson says he is prepared to exercise his pardon powers if prosecutors bring cr…

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Mark and Patricia McCloskey are both personal injury attorneys in their 60s. Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner told The Associated Press that their actions risked creating a violent situation during an otherwise nonviolent protest last month.

The nonviolent protest that began with breaking down a security gate and trespassing?

“This is all private property. There are no public sidewalks or public streets,” McCloskey said. “We were told that we would be killed, our home burned and our dog killed. We were all alone facing an angry mob.”

Yup. Nonviolent.

The McCloskeys are racist for not letting the protesters kill them.

The McCloskey's were the ones who initiated the threat. That's why they're charged.

Horseshit.

 

[Faun]

Only in your Communist wet dreams is what they did illegal.

And of course, in the Legal Statute of the Law....

which legal statute? i suppose now the state is wrong for getting the case dismissed?

prove your point for one in your overall useless life.

what laws did they break. look them up and tell me specifically why they were broken. don't just scream they were, don't cite the bitch who went after them.

remove all and do your own legwork and explain to me with links which MO laws this couple broke.

bet ya $10 you can't do it.

Idiot.

565.056 Assault in the fourth degree

565.056. 1. A person commits the offense of assault in the fourth degree if:

(3) The person purposely places another person in apprehension of immediate physical injury;​

 

[Faun]

You know this how? IOW, how did they get onto private property to have guns shown to them if they were outside the gate?

Faun is a mentally challenged gun grabber.
facts are irrelevant.

Disarming Americans is all that matters. Constitution be damned
This is how Marxist wannabees think

How lucky am I you proved to be batshit insane?

 

[Faun]

Again ... tney weren't on tne McCloskey's property.

Liar!!!!!!

You are like all Moon Bats. You are uneducated and low information.

Here are the facts:

They were facing an angry mob on their property. And this was in the context of an extended period of violence and arson in the surrounding neighborhoods. Media reports of them "taking it to the suburbs" were as credible as anything the press has reported lately. The police had advised them they would not be responding. Some of the protesters were taunting them with death threats giving more of an appearance of a lynch mob than a weekly Bible study group. A metal gate had been smashed to gain entry to the property. They were entirely reasonable in their actions. If anything, they were a bit reserved about it. You can't say they had planned or laid a trap seeing as how they didn't even have shoes on during the incident.

So go fuck yourself Moon Bat.

"They were facing an angry mob on their property."

Wrong. The crowd was not on their property.

And the husband had his gun drawn before he was threatened. It's all on video, including the video of the husband admitting he brandished his firearm before any threats were made.

Gated Communities are privately owned including the streets ... Fucking moron !

Common property is owned by the HOA trustees -- who are currently entangled in a legal battle over some common property the McClownsky's tried to claim as their own.

 

[daveman]

The McCloskey's were the ones who initiated the threat. That's why they're charged.

The 'protesters' were on private property.

They were not on the McCloskey's private property. No law in any state, including Missouri, allows homeowners to threaten other peoples' lives with firearms over property that's not their's.

Ummm...

Oh, look. Protesters on the McCloskey's front lawn.

 

[freyasman]

You know this how? IOW, how did they get onto private property to have guns shown to them if they were outside the gate?

Faun is a mentally challenged gun grabber.
facts are irrelevant.

Disarming Americans is all that matters. Constitution be damned
This is how Marxist wannabees think

How lucky am I you proved to be batshit insane?

You know, refusing to listen, and rejecting reality, is not going to make this turn out the way you want it to, you know that, right?
No matter how much you want these people to be guilty of something, that fervent desire of yours isn't going to make them guilty, you do understand that, don't you?

 

[Faun]

Again ... tney weren't on tne McCloskey's property.

Liar!!!!!!

You are like all Moon Bats. You are uneducated and low information.

Here are the facts:

They were facing an angry mob on their property. And this was in the context of an extended period of violence and arson in the surrounding neighborhoods. Media reports of them "taking it to the suburbs" were as credible as anything the press has reported lately. The police had advised them they would not be responding. Some of the protesters were taunting them with death threats giving more of an appearance of a lynch mob than a weekly Bible study group. A metal gate had been smashed to gain entry to the property. They were entirely reasonable in their actions. If anything, they were a bit reserved about it. You can't say they had planned or laid a trap seeing as how they didn't even have shoes on during the incident.

So go fuck yourself Moon Bat.

"They were facing an angry mob on their property."

Wrong. The crowd was not on their property.

And the husband had his gun drawn before he was threatened. It's all on video, including the video of the husband admitting he brandished his firearm before any threats were made.

Gated Community is privately owned to including the streets ... Fucking moron !

Communists like this Faun Queerboi thinks that all property belongs to "the people". They don't understand individaul property rights just like they don't understand the concept of individual liberty.

 

[Faun]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

Yes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.

You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.

Right, and they will just leave, right?

By the way, what they were doing on the private property anyways?

I saw people marching to the mayor's house to protest in front of his house.

The mayor lived Blocks away the other direction

The protesters said they took the route they chose because the city had blocked streets.

So they break into a gated community that they did not have permission to be on to take a shortcut? That makes it fine and dandy, lil faun? 200 to 300 hundred angry SJWs that have already proven that they are prone to violence, the police given stand down orders to let this collection of human garbage to rampage sans consequences. Leftard pussbags like yourself seem to believe that they should huddle in their home and hope these thugs don't start ripping shit up and knocking out windows. I also heard the trash talking these alleged "peaceful protestors" were spewing. Vulgar, threatening and intimidating. It doesn't appear to me that these commie fucks were afraid in the slightest,....apprehensive because they are cowards at heart, but they were not "fearful". I wouldn't have shed a tear if McCloskey had emptied his entire arsenal on these thugs.

Let's see your evidence any one of those protesters committed any acts of violence before guns were pulled on them...

Let's see your evidence they threatened the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...

Let's see your evidence they trash talked the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...

Let's see your evidence they're commies...

You spout a lot of bullshit made up from the whole cloth spun from inside your deranged conspiratorial empty head.

Fuckface faun, an estimated crowd of 500 angry SJW thugs break down the gate of a secured, gated community that has been zoned as much, these fucks chant loudly, some of which are armed as they are walking down my street? I wouldn't feel the need to wait and see what their intentions were before I showed them that they better keep on moving their sorry asses down the road. If it means pointing a lock and loaded AR-15 with multiple magazines at the ready as I stand on my own property to insure that they realize that their bullshit, thuggish behavior will be met with some hollow-points to those empty skulls of theirs if they step on my property? So be it. They had no right to meander, threaten or attempt to intimidate this couple on their own property. These sorry sorry pieces of commie shit that trespass, vandalize and act like they own the place had the unmitigated galll to get their panties in a wad because someone stood up to them? That is hilarious and it shows what pussy snowflakes that they are.....my only regret is that the trash-talking wimps didn't get their knee-caps shot off. I can definitely understand how your tender, snowflake like heart was breaking at the mere thought of these marxist sacks of shit being put in their place.

(snicker)

BLM IS a commie front group, dipshit.......

BTW, in the urban dictionary "faun" is a sexualized pre-adolescent boy....certainly describes your mental capabilities. Only God knows what perversions you engage in. I bet the neighborhood kids give you a wide berth or at least they should.

(snicker)

"Fuckface faun, an estimated crowd of 500 angry SJW thugs break down the gate..."

... that's as far as I got in your delusional diatribe as that is not true. Guns were drawn on that crowd before the gate was broken. You lose again like always because you're fucked in tbe head and have no clue what you're talking about.

Did they breach the secured and gated community? Ummmm, yes......were the McCloskeys well within their right to stand their ground and secure their property? Ummmmm, yes. Were these commie fucks trespassing? Ummm, yes, since they didn't have a gate card to enter and broke the gate. I wholeheartedly support the McCloskeys and what they did.l Don't like it? Tough shit.....these commie fucks are lucky that they showed at least some good sense and didn't push the issue or they would still be cleaning up commie brain matter and guts off of the streets....not that I would give a fuck if they all croaked.

Commie lives don't matter, faun, the perv.

They weren't trespassing on the McCloskey's property. That you're too fucked in the head to comprehend that is your problem.

Regardless, you lied (or hallucinated) that breaking the gate justified the McCloskey's armed response since the guns came out before the gate was broken.

What you typed I do not know. But for a period of a month or so before death, destruction and mayhem was packaged as protests in many blue areas. It would be easy to believe personal safety could have been compromised.

That would be like saying James Fields was justified to mow down a crowd of protesters because other protesters were acting violently. The crowd that marched into Portland Place made no threats, neither verbally nor non-verbally when Mark McCloskey brandished his firearm. The gate was not yet broken and the protesters were walking in the street ... until they spotted McCloskey standing on his porch with an AR-15. It was only then that some protesters got up on the sidewalk (still not McCloskey property) and some started making threats.

That couple may have been in fear. How do you react? The architects of fear who promote this every day on TV have played their role.

Do people in fear approach the group they fear with guns that don't fire? What kind of imbecile does that?

 

[pknopp]

His violations of the 4th Amendment are not helping your case here.

This has nothing to do with the 4th amendment.

It is basically 1st amendment v 2nd amendment.

Do the commie/neggra assholes have the right to go onto somebody property and threaten them or do the people threaten have the right to bear arms to protect themselves from the mob? That is what it boils down to.

If anything the McCloskey's 4th Amendment rights were violate when some stupid uneducated Moon Bat judge issued the warrant to confiscate the AR-15.

This case doesn't have anything to do with the 4th. I was simply noting that Trump's violations of the 4th aren't going to help come November.

You see, one's rights are not based upon how others see how they affect their politics. It's too bad so many do not understand that.

What violations of the 4th? be specific.

We have been discussing it in many threads.

I don't have the inclination to look at "many threads".

You made the statement on this thread so tell me how Trump has violated your 4th Amendment rights.

He hasn't violated mine.

Fox's Napolitano rips 'unconstitutional' Trump crackdown on Portland: 'Just plain wrong'

You mean the Portland thingy. Why didn't you say so?

American Presidents have intervened in the states and cities many times in the life of the Republic.

The biggest one was when that piece of shit Lincoln sent an Army to invade 1/3rd of America and kill Americans, burn down their cities and take away their arms and we have a goddamn memorial to him in DC.

That asshole JFK sent federal marshals to get a Neggra in a state funded college. They have an eternal flame to him at Arlington.

Washington sent federal troops to put down the Whiskey rebellion. It was all over taxes. Talk about Federal intervention but yet Washington is revered by all Americans except the hate filled Moon Bats.

If you think Trump is correct in doing what the Democrat turds in the big city shitholes are too cowardly to do then it is fine. If you side with the Neggras and Communists then you won't like what he is doing.

If it was up to me I would just let these big city shitholes destroy themselves and absolutely no Federal money to rebuild. Serves the fuckers right, don't you think?

As I've said many times.......Trump may not be a racist but he sure appeals to them.

 

[Ame®icano]

They are charged with a felony so the government can confiscate their firearms.

She has to prove first that they break the law.

Easy.

Care to explain what law did they break?

​

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Assault in the fourth degree.

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1. A person commits the offense of assault in the fourth degree if: ​

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(3) The person purposely places another person in apprehension of immediate physical injury;​

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Uhm-um...

Sooooo. how many "protesters" were charged with felony for breaking into private property and apprehended the property owners with their presence?

None since trespassing is a class B misdemeanor in Missouri, not a felony. Are you always this melodramatic?

Oh, now they were "trespassing". I mean, there is a screaming mob, beating drums, breaking into property, and there is no reason to worry at all?
Why would McCloskeys even feel threatened to pull the guns out? No reason at all.

That same crowd walked past many houses. They didn't touch one. The McCloskey's were not threatened by them. They had no legal right to assault that crowd.

Yet somehow in your head, breaking into property is not a threat, but reaction to break in is.

This is part where you try to convince me that people who break into someone property have good intentions. Maybe they just wanted to fix the plumbing, paint some art on the outside, and peacefully mow the lawn.

Again ... tney weren't on tne McCloskey's property.

They were threatening too.. to kill them, kill their animals

Those threats came after the McCloskey's already threatened their lives with guns.

You still haven't answered, why would McCloskey "threatened" their lives?

 

[pknopp]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

Remember, kids, threatening to kill someone and destroying their property doesn't mean you wish them harm.

Clearly.

pknopp laughed at this post.

That says a great deal about him. And none of it complimentary.

I laughed because no one was threatened. Well, the homeowners weren't.

Yes, I understand that's what you were told to believe.

Was anyone harmed? Anyone?

 

[Ame®icano]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

Yes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.

You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.

Right, and they will just leave, right?

By the way, what they were doing on the private property anyways?

I saw people marching to the mayor's house to protest in front of his house.

The mayor lived Blocks away the other direction

The protesters said they took the route they chose because the city had blocked streets.

So they break into a gated community that they did not have permission to be on to take a shortcut? That makes it fine and dandy, lil faun? 200 to 300 hundred angry SJWs that have already proven that they are prone to violence, the police given stand down orders to let this collection of human garbage to rampage sans consequences. Leftard pussbags like yourself seem to believe that they should huddle in their home and hope these thugs don't start ripping shit up and knocking out windows. I also heard the trash talking these alleged "peaceful protestors" were spewing. Vulgar, threatening and intimidating. It doesn't appear to me that these commie fucks were afraid in the slightest,....apprehensive because they are cowards at heart, but they were not "fearful". I wouldn't have shed a tear if McCloskey had emptied his entire arsenal on these thugs.

Let's see your evidence any one of those protesters committed any acts of violence before guns were pulled on them...

Let's see your evidence they threatened the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...

Let's see your evidence they trash talked the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...

Let's see your evidence they're commies...

You spout a lot of bullshit made up from the whole cloth spun from inside your deranged conspiratorial empty head.

Fuckface faun, an estimated crowd of 500 angry SJW thugs break down the gate of a secured, gated community that has been zoned as much, these fucks chant loudly, some of which are armed as they are walking down my street? I wouldn't feel the need to wait and see what their intentions were before I showed them that they better keep on moving their sorry asses down the road. If it means pointing a lock and loaded AR-15 with multiple magazines at the ready as I stand on my own property to insure that they realize that their bullshit, thuggish behavior will be met with some hollow-points to those empty skulls of theirs if they step on my property? So be it. They had no right to meander, threaten or attempt to intimidate this couple on their own property. These sorry sorry pieces of commie shit that trespass, vandalize and act like they own the place had the unmitigated galll to get their panties in a wad because someone stood up to them? That is hilarious and it shows what pussy snowflakes that they are.....my only regret is that the trash-talking wimps didn't get their knee-caps shot off. I can definitely understand how your tender, snowflake like heart was breaking at the mere thought of these marxist sacks of shit being put in their place.

(snicker)

BLM IS a commie front group, dipshit.......

BTW, in the urban dictionary "faun" is a sexualized pre-adolescent boy....certainly describes your mental capabilities. Only God knows what perversions you engage in. I bet the neighborhood kids give you a wide berth or at least they should.

(snicker)

My husband, attorney at law, says it's overreach and they'll walk. They have the Second behind them and Missouri stand your ground laws.

He also said Kim Gardner must have benefited from Affirmative Action because she's obviously not aware of either state law nor Constitutional law.

LOLOL

You idiot. They don't have a stand your ground defense. Stand your ground means you don't have to retreat when you feel threatened with death or serious physical harm. Mark McCloskey brandished his firearm before he felt threatened; thereby removing a required key element to stand your ground.

It’s his property why can’t he carry is weapon?

He can, he can sit on his porch chewing on a cigar cleaning his gun

Gardner won't win this

Yes, he can do that. Regrettably for him, that's not what he was doing. What he can't do is threaten someone with his gun who has not threatened him while committed a felony or was in the commission of committing a felony.

Listen up "Faun" get your law degree and then comment, you look as fucking stupid as Gardner

The couple have every goddamn right to defend life and property under Constitutional law and Missouri law.

That's just a fact, Twinkie

Now stop looking the fool you are, Gapped Ass

"Twinkie"

LOL

Good one.

 

[Ame®icano]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

Yes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.

You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.

Right, and they will just leave, right?

By the way, what they were doing on the private property anyways?

I saw people marching to the mayor's house to protest in front of his house.

The mayor lived Blocks away the other direction

The protesters said they took the route they chose because the city had blocked streets.

So they break into a gated community that they did not have permission to be on to take a shortcut? That makes it fine and dandy, lil faun? 200 to 300 hundred angry SJWs that have already proven that they are prone to violence, the police given stand down orders to let this collection of human garbage to rampage sans consequences. Leftard pussbags like yourself seem to believe that they should huddle in their home and hope these thugs don't start ripping shit up and knocking out windows. I also heard the trash talking these alleged "peaceful protestors" were spewing. Vulgar, threatening and intimidating. It doesn't appear to me that these commie fucks were afraid in the slightest,....apprehensive because they are cowards at heart, but they were not "fearful". I wouldn't have shed a tear if McCloskey had emptied his entire arsenal on these thugs.

Let's see your evidence any one of those protesters committed any acts of violence before guns were pulled on them...

Let's see your evidence they threatened the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...

Let's see your evidence they trash talked the McCloskey's before guns were pulled on them...

Let's see your evidence they're commies...

You spout a lot of bullshit made up from the whole cloth spun from inside your deranged conspiratorial empty head.

Fuckface faun, an estimated crowd of 500 angry SJW thugs break down the gate of a secured, gated community that has been zoned as much, these fucks chant loudly, some of which are armed as they are walking down my street? I wouldn't feel the need to wait and see what their intentions were before I showed them that they better keep on moving their sorry asses down the road. If it means pointing a lock and loaded AR-15 with multiple magazines at the ready as I stand on my own property to insure that they realize that their bullshit, thuggish behavior will be met with some hollow-points to those empty skulls of theirs if they step on my property? So be it. They had no right to meander, threaten or attempt to intimidate this couple on their own property. These sorry sorry pieces of commie shit that trespass, vandalize and act like they own the place had the unmitigated galll to get their panties in a wad because someone stood up to them? That is hilarious and it shows what pussy snowflakes that they are.....my only regret is that the trash-talking wimps didn't get their knee-caps shot off. I can definitely understand how your tender, snowflake like heart was breaking at the mere thought of these marxist sacks of shit being put in their place.

(snicker)

BLM IS a commie front group, dipshit.......

BTW, in the urban dictionary "faun" is a sexualized pre-adolescent boy....certainly describes your mental capabilities. Only God knows what perversions you engage in. I bet the neighborhood kids give you a wide berth or at least they should.

(snicker)

"Fuckface faun, an estimated crowd of 500 angry SJW thugs break down the gate..."

... that's as far as I got in your delusional diatribe as that is not true. Guns were drawn on that crowd before the gate was broken. You lose again like always because you're fucked in tbe head and have no clue what you're talking about.

Did they breach the secured and gated community? Ummmm, yes......were the McCloskeys well within their right to stand their ground and secure their property? Ummmmm, yes. Were these commie fucks trespassing? Ummm, yes, since they didn't have a gate card to enter and broke the gate. I wholeheartedly support the McCloskeys and what they did.l Don't like it? Tough shit.....these commie fucks are lucky that they showed at least some good sense and didn't push the issue or they would still be cleaning up commie brain matter and guts off of the streets....not that I would give a fuck if they all croaked.

Commie lives don't matter, faun, the perv.

They weren't trespassing on the McCloskey's property. That you're too fucked in the head to comprehend that is your problem.

Regardless, you lied (or hallucinated) that breaking the gate justified the McCloskey's armed response since the guns came out before the gate was broken.

What you typed I do not know. But for a period of a month or so before death, destruction and mayhem was packaged as protests in many blue areas. It would be easy to believe personal safety could have been compromised.

That would be like saying James Fields was justified to mow down a crowd of protesters because other protesters were acting violently. The crowd that marched into Portland Place made no threats, neither verbally nor non-verbally when Mark McCloskey brandished his firearm. The gate was not yet broken and the protesters were walking in the street ... until they spotted McCloskey standing on his porch with an AR-15. It was only then that some protesters got up on the sidewalk (still not McCloskey property) and some started making threats.

"crowd made no threats"

LOL

Breaking into private property is a threat.

 

[Ame®icano]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

They were clear? How?

They let the neighbors know they were not interested in bothering them.

Did they also notify this couple of the same?

No idea if they were specifically told or not.

So, it probably was NOT clear to the couple that the mob meant them no harm. Hindsight from a distance is usually a lot clearer than immediate reaction in the moment. Do you think the outcome would have been different had members of the mob quietly told the couple that they were only interested in storming the Mayor's house and not their's instead of shouting at them? Obviously, this couple was scared. They had been seeing the violence directed at people like them, and they had a mob entering their private property with (likely) unknown intentions. Don't we all agree it's incumbent on the mob to at least make sure the people who own the property they are trespassing on know they are not in danger, and to leave quietly if the property owners tell them to?

Do you have a point?

you seem to be avoiding a pretty simple question.

he spelled it out clearly - HOW DID YOU KNOW THEY MEANT NO ONE HARM???

you can either answer it or you can play dodgeball and that answers it for you.

As you walk down a street on any given day, how do you know this about anyone? Now, what is the point?

you don't walk down the street in a huge crowd.
huge crowds have been destroying shit around these people for several days

so you are playing dodgeball and not putting yourself in their situation - just sitting in a distant judgement and playing the fool.

or not playing. either is fine.

Why not make a point? What exactly are you arguing?

that you have zero clue as to whether or not a "large crowd" moving towards you means you no harm GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES of st louis at the time this was done - large crowds were in fact destroying everything in their path.

now - you're at home watching TV and you see huge crowds lighting shit on fire and beating up people for no reason at all you can tell. THEN you see a huge crowd coming your way. SAID huge crowd rips down the gate to your property.

what do you do? serve cookies and cheer them on like a parade
or
protect you and your family?

I'm confused. I said in my very first post that I did not think the charges would stick and hugely paranoid or not they could do what they did.

So again, what are you arguing with me over?

charges
never
should
have
been
filed

it's a political game from a marxist. that's all.

but your stance of THEY MEANT NO ONE HARM - you have zero way of knowing that. ZERO.

and it's akin to teaching helen keller to hear to get you to listen.

Let's see. They peacefully turn themselves in or get arrested and then fight it in the courts. Right?

again - nothing to do with the fact that you have zero idea of the intention of the crowd.

A person has no idea about anyone. You simply for some reason want to argue an irrelevant point. Whatever.

cause YOU SAID the large crowd meant no harm.

and then you wonder why people question that.

"meant no harm"

They're as peaceful as brown shirts were.