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Vacation in Mississippi Garden spot of Republican Governance...It shouldn't be up to you, or to me, or to government to decide what someone else's minimum acceptable wage should be.Now that's irrelevant.
If is irrelevant what $600 should cover, how did you get to $600 magic number?
So just throw a number out there. What do you think is a decent livable wage overall, for an average American Worker? I already put some numbers out there. I said between $11 - $15 an hr. Certainly isn't wealth, but it's a reasonable start. One could get by somewhat.
Well, the State of Washington has decided. So Businesses will pay their workers a little more, and life will go on. It's a small victory for American Workers. That sure doesn't happen very often. American Workers have been getting shafted for many years. It's a damn shame.
And if you're so outraged over Workers getting a little more cash, then don't go to Washington. Only travel to, or do business with Slave Labor States. That's your call i guess. It wouldn't surprise me though. You guys are the ones who supported shipping so many good-paying American jobs out of the country. You guys really should ask yourselves sometime, 'what would Jesus do?' If you call yourself a 'Good Christian', it's time you start acting like one.
Wonder how long you would last standing on a concrete kitchen floor in 120 degree heat for 6, 8 hours or more every day.How about no less than 60x less than the CEO takes home. Or whatever is a living wage. Its all just funny money anyways.
How about just forgetting about the CEO .................
What he makes is irrelevant to what nay worker makes ...................
Just the skill set alone sets most CEO's apart from the regular laborer, the fact they have a BRAIN and actually understand how business works and how greedy, skill less workers think they are any way equal or have any right to base their pay expectations with them(CEO) in mind.
Workers aren't asking for riches. They're just asking to be paid a decent livable wage. And i don't think that's too much to ask in the richest nation on earth.
They're not asking "the nation". They're asking their specific, private-sector employer, for whom they are doing a job that could be done equally well by a kid in junior high school. Translated, that means they're demanding that the government reach into their employer's pocket and give them his money for a job which is not valuable enough to warrant it.
if you don't like kitchen work, find another job. No one is forcing you to do that kind of work.
My buddy owns a small business in a nice middle class town. Him and all the small business owners all talk and I just left a small business that closed in another very nice middle class town. Taxes aren't what's killing small businesses. No customers is.How about no less than 60x less than the CEO takes home. Or whatever is a living wage. Its all just funny money anyways.You never told us how much is a fair wage. Lets say that everyone is doing exactly the same job, how much should they be paid? Is it the same in NYC as in Fargo ND? Is it the same for a single guy living with his parents as for a married guy with 4 kids? Is it the same for a teenager working for pocket money as for a single mom?
And finally, who decides what is a fair wage? Who is this omnipitant wage setter?
How about just forgetting about the CEO .................
What he makes is irrelevant to what nay worker makes ...................
Just the skill set alone sets most CEO's apart from the regular laborer, the fact they have a BRAIN and actually understand how business works and how greedy, skill less workers think they are any way equal or have any right to base their pay expectations with them(CEO) in mind.
Workers aren't asking for riches. They're just asking to be paid a decent livable wage. And i don't think that's too much to ask in the richest nation on earth.
They're not asking "the nation". They're asking their specific, private-sector employer, for whom they are doing a job that could be done equally well by a kid in junior high school. Translated, that means they're demanding that the government reach into their employer's pocket and give them his money for a job which is not valuable enough to warrant it.
My buddy said 75% of americans are barely getting by so they aren't spending any money.
Start your own business? Selling what to who?
I luckily just found a great manufacturing sales job so I never have to start a small business and work for minimum wage.
The rich have all the money go sell something to them. Oh they already have one? Out of business already?
Mississippi Leads U.S. In Reliance On Food StampsOh boy, Mississippi sure is a stanky shithole. Yeah, it angers me sometimes watching my Republican friends celebrating and boasting about States that treat their Workers like shite. They actually celebrate Workers making less money. Such a twisted greedy mentality. They should be ashamed of themselves.
Henry Ford knew he had to pay workers enough that they too could buy cars....the new business model is to pay the workers the absolute least they can pay and rely on the Social safety net as a subsidy for the Corporate work force....The CEO s meanwhile are hiking their compensation into outer space ...My buddy owns a small business in a nice middle class town. Him and all the small business owners all talk and I just left a small business that closed in another very nice middle class town. Taxes aren't what's killing small businesses. No customers is.How about no less than 60x less than the CEO takes home. Or whatever is a living wage. Its all just funny money anyways.
How about just forgetting about the CEO .................
What he makes is irrelevant to what nay worker makes ...................
Just the skill set alone sets most CEO's apart from the regular laborer, the fact they have a BRAIN and actually understand how business works and how greedy, skill less workers think they are any way equal or have any right to base their pay expectations with them(CEO) in mind.
Workers aren't asking for riches. They're just asking to be paid a decent livable wage. And i don't think that's too much to ask in the richest nation on earth.
They're not asking "the nation". They're asking their specific, private-sector employer, for whom they are doing a job that could be done equally well by a kid in junior high school. Translated, that means they're demanding that the government reach into their employer's pocket and give them his money for a job which is not valuable enough to warrant it.
My buddy said 75% of americans are barely getting by so they aren't spending any money.
Start your own business? Selling what to who?
I luckily just found a great manufacturing sales job so I never have to start a small business and work for minimum wage.
The rich have all the money go sell something to them. Oh they already have one? Out of business already?
Gargantuan Corporations like Walmart like have annihilated the little guy. Greedy fat Americans love their cheap Chinese-made shit. Most have no idea that they're only supporting their own demise. They're funding it.
Wonder how long you would last standing on a concrete kitchen floor in 120 degree heat for 6, 8 hours or more every day.How about no less than 60x less than the CEO takes home. Or whatever is a living wage. Its all just funny money anyways.
How about just forgetting about the CEO .................
What he makes is irrelevant to what nay worker makes ...................
Just the skill set alone sets most CEO's apart from the regular laborer, the fact they have a BRAIN and actually understand how business works and how greedy, skill less workers think they are any way equal or have any right to base their pay expectations with them(CEO) in mind.
Workers aren't asking for riches. They're just asking to be paid a decent livable wage. And i don't think that's too much to ask in the richest nation on earth.
They're not asking "the nation". They're asking their specific, private-sector employer, for whom they are doing a job that could be done equally well by a kid in junior high school. Translated, that means they're demanding that the government reach into their employer's pocket and give them his money for a job which is not valuable enough to warrant it.
Cry me a fucking river.
Mississippi Leads U.S. In Reliance On Food StampsOh boy, Mississippi sure is a stanky shithole. Yeah, it angers me sometimes watching my Republican friends celebrating and boasting about States that treat their Workers like shite. They actually celebrate Workers making less money. Such a twisted greedy mentality. They should be ashamed of themselves.
Henry Ford knew he had to pay workers enough that they too could buy cars....the new business model is to pay the workers the absolute least they can pay and rely on the Social safety net as a subsidy for the Corporate work force....The CEO s meanwhile are hiking their compensation into outer space ...My buddy owns a small business in a nice middle class town. Him and all the small business owners all talk and I just left a small business that closed in another very nice middle class town. Taxes aren't what's killing small businesses. No customers is.How about just forgetting about the CEO .................
What he makes is irrelevant to what nay worker makes ...................
Just the skill set alone sets most CEO's apart from the regular laborer, the fact they have a BRAIN and actually understand how business works and how greedy, skill less workers think they are any way equal or have any right to base their pay expectations with them(CEO) in mind.
Workers aren't asking for riches. They're just asking to be paid a decent livable wage. And i don't think that's too much to ask in the richest nation on earth.
They're not asking "the nation". They're asking their specific, private-sector employer, for whom they are doing a job that could be done equally well by a kid in junior high school. Translated, that means they're demanding that the government reach into their employer's pocket and give them his money for a job which is not valuable enough to warrant it.
My buddy said 75% of americans are barely getting by so they aren't spending any money.
Start your own business? Selling what to who?
I luckily just found a great manufacturing sales job so I never have to start a small business and work for minimum wage.
The rich have all the money go sell something to them. Oh they already have one? Out of business already?
Gargantuan Corporations like Walmart like have annihilated the little guy. Greedy fat Americans love their cheap Chinese-made shit. Most have no idea that they're only supporting their own demise. They're funding it.
and as if that was not enough then they mock and degrade Food stamp recipients ...call them leeches...imply they are drug addled by persisting in forcing our fellow Americans to "pee in a cup" for nanny Government....Henry Ford knew he had to pay workers enough that they too could buy cars....the new business model is to pay the workers the absolute least they can pay and rely on the Social safety net as a subsidy for the Corporate work force....The CEO s meanwhile are hiking their compensation into outer space ...My buddy owns a small business in a nice middle class town. Him and all the small business owners all talk and I just left a small business that closed in another very nice middle class town. Taxes aren't what's killing small businesses. No customers is.Workers aren't asking for riches. They're just asking to be paid a decent livable wage. And i don't think that's too much to ask in the richest nation on earth.
They're not asking "the nation". They're asking their specific, private-sector employer, for whom they are doing a job that could be done equally well by a kid in junior high school. Translated, that means they're demanding that the government reach into their employer's pocket and give them his money for a job which is not valuable enough to warrant it.
My buddy said 75% of americans are barely getting by so they aren't spending any money.
Start your own business? Selling what to who?
I luckily just found a great manufacturing sales job so I never have to start a small business and work for minimum wage.
The rich have all the money go sell something to them. Oh they already have one? Out of business already?
Gargantuan Corporations like Walmart like have annihilated the little guy. Greedy fat Americans love their cheap Chinese-made shit. Most have no idea that they're only supporting their own demise. They're funding it.
True. The Taxpayer is forced to pick up the tab. So treating Workers like shit, actually comes back to haunt us all in the end. And shame on States that attract Businesses by promising sweetheart Tax Breaks and $$. There should have to be pay-scale guarantees for Workers when these deals are made.
That's one of my biggest rubs with my Republican friends. They're all for Big Government intervention in Business if it benefits them. But God forbid that intervention benefit Workers. That mentality kinda sickens me. It's pretty shameful.
and as if that was not enough then they mock and degrade Food stamp recipients ...call them leeches...imply they are drug addled by persisting in forcing our fellow Americans to "pee in a cup" for nanny Government....Henry Ford knew he had to pay workers enough that they too could buy cars....the new business model is to pay the workers the absolute least they can pay and rely on the Social safety net as a subsidy for the Corporate work force....The CEO s meanwhile are hiking their compensation into outer space ...My buddy owns a small business in a nice middle class town. Him and all the small business owners all talk and I just left a small business that closed in another very nice middle class town. Taxes aren't what's killing small businesses. No customers is.They're not asking "the nation". They're asking their specific, private-sector employer, for whom they are doing a job that could be done equally well by a kid in junior high school. Translated, that means they're demanding that the government reach into their employer's pocket and give them his money for a job which is not valuable enough to warrant it.
My buddy said 75% of americans are barely getting by so they aren't spending any money.
Start your own business? Selling what to who?
I luckily just found a great manufacturing sales job so I never have to start a small business and work for minimum wage.
The rich have all the money go sell something to them. Oh they already have one? Out of business already?
Gargantuan Corporations like Walmart like have annihilated the little guy. Greedy fat Americans love their cheap Chinese-made shit. Most have no idea that they're only supporting their own demise. They're funding it.
True. The Taxpayer is forced to pick up the tab. So treating Workers like shit, actually comes back to haunt us all in the end. And shame on States that attract Businesses by promising sweetheart Tax Breaks and $$. There should have to be pay-scale guarantees for Workers when these deals are made.
That's one of my biggest rubs with my Republican friends. They're all for Big Government intervention in Business if it benefits them. But God forbid that intervention benefit Workers. That mentality kinda sickens me. It's pretty shameful.
That's a sledgehammer approach. Not all low-wage jobs are subsidized
You mean not all low wage workers apply for help. That may be true. But if you qualify based on today's criteria, them it is a persons CHOICE not to receive help from the government. But they would still qualify for help.
It shouldn't be up to you, or to me, or to government to decide what someone else's minimum acceptable wage should be.What that $600 a week should cover?
If you share apartment with couple of roommates, or living in moms basement, you could live on much less. It's still livable wage.
Now that's irrelevant.
If is irrelevant what $600 should cover, how did you get to $600 magic number?
So just throw a number out there. What do you think is a decent livable wage overall, for an average American Worker? I already put some numbers out there. I said between $11 - $15 an hr. Certainly isn't wealth, but it's a reasonable start. One could get by somewhat.
Well, the State of Washington has decided. So Businesses will pay their workers a little more, and life will go on. It's a small victory for American Workers. That sure doesn't happen very often. American Workers have been getting shafted for many years. It's a damn shame.
And if you're so outraged over Workers getting a little more cash, then don't go to Washington.
I'm not sure what you're getting at.
If the problem is subsidizing business through welfare, simply don't let them hire people on welfare.
Then they'll have to pay something people can actually live on and we don't have to resort to government wage and price controls.
People collect proportional welfare. A working single mother will collect less snap or food assistance because what she is able to qualify for is based on her income. The same with all the other "welfare" benefits from child care assistance to medical. A very low or minimum pay translates into a maximum qualifying amount of public assistance. For many workers there is actually a threshold that must be reached before they see any personal benefits in the form of discretionary cash to an increase in wages. The increases benefit those providing financial benefit to the recipient until the threshold is met. The worker collecting $100 per month in food stamps will loose the food stamps or portion of them when they receive the increased pay. The tax payer is the beneficiary to the wage increase.That's a sledgehammer approach. Not all low-wage jobs are subsidized
You mean not all low wage workers apply for help. That may be true. But if you qualify based on today's criteria, them it is a persons CHOICE not to receive help from the government. But they would still qualify for help.
I'm not sure what you're getting at. If the problem is subsidizing business through welfare, simply don't let them hire people on welfare. Then they'll have to pay something people can actually live on and we don't have to resort to government wage and price controls.
Well, the State of Washington has decided. So Businesses will pay their workers a little more, and life will go on. It's a small victory for American Workers. That sure doesn't happen very often. American Workers have been getting shafted for many years. It's a damn shame.
And if you're so outraged over Workers getting a little more cash, then don't go to Washington. Only travel to, or do business with Slave Labor States. That's your call i guess. It wouldn't surprise me though. You guys are the ones who supported shipping so many good-paying American jobs out of the country. You guys really should ask yourselves sometime, 'what would Jesus do?' If you call yourself a 'Good Christian', it's time you started acting like one.
Well, the State of Washington has decided. So Businesses will pay their workers a little more, and life will go on. It's a small victory for American Workers. That sure doesn't happen very often. American Workers have been getting shafted for many years. It's a damn shame.
State of Washington haven't decide anything. It's Seattle City ordinance.
And if you're so outraged over Workers getting a little more cash, then don't go to Washington. Only travel to, or do business with Slave Labor States. That's your call i guess. It wouldn't surprise me though. You guys are the ones who supported shipping so many good-paying American jobs out of the country. You guys really should ask yourselves sometime, 'what would Jesus do?' If you call yourself a 'Good Christian', it's time you started acting like one.
More liberal unintended consequences going down that road of good intentions...
Well, then don't do business with Washington. It's a State that respects its Workers. Only do business with stinky shitholes like Mississippi. It's a State that treats its Workers like shite. You'd love it there. So hey, if you can live with yourself, go for it i guess.
It isn't liberal or conservative, it is both. It is something called pragmatism and pragmatism fits neatly into all categories. The only people benefiting from non pragmatic policies are special interest. The special interest have convinced segments of our population to believe they can wear labels like "conservative" or "liberal" and so the brainwashed do their bidding for them even when the bidding works against their best interest. It is why we call these folks brainwashed. They fervently fight for things that hurt them because they have been listening to a voice, a talker, a propagandist, a cult leader.Well, the State of Washington has decided. So Businesses will pay their workers a little more, and life will go on. It's a small victory for American Workers. That sure doesn't happen very often. American Workers have been getting shafted for many years. It's a damn shame.
State of Washington haven't decide anything. It's Seattle City ordinance.
And if you're so outraged over Workers getting a little more cash, then don't go to Washington. Only travel to, or do business with Slave Labor States. That's your call i guess. It wouldn't surprise me though. You guys are the ones who supported shipping so many good-paying American jobs out of the country. You guys really should ask yourselves sometime, 'what would Jesus do?' If you call yourself a 'Good Christian', it's time you started acting like one.
More liberal unintended consequences going down that road of good intentions...
