BREAKING : Ryanair sent a Belarusian journalist Raman Pratasevich to certain death

They should release the young journalist. Immediately!

Not to forget: They arrrested also his Russian girlfriend. The journalist declared himselve "guilty" in the TV from the tyrant Lukashenko. His father said that's nonsnense beause he never had caused any riot. He said this was very clear an inscenation. His son speaks normally in another way - was lethargic. His cigarettes on the desk were not teh cigarettes he normally smoked. He thinks he had a broken nose and an immense amount of powder in the face, whic seem to hide wounds.

The criminals in Belarus have to give immediatelly back to Europe every of the passengers they have arrested. We bring our passengeers to their destiny and not into the torture chambers of a criminal government without legitimitation. This case of skyjacking is an unbelievable provocation for the complete free world.
Wow... Don't speak for the "complete free world".
Many people don't share your European love for the Nazis.
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Belarus needs to be isolated
The people of Belarus fight with their fists against tanks, because an army of crimonal traitors hwo torture and kill their own people protects this god damned asshole Lukashenko. How to help the people of Belarus - and to elim,iante the tyrant Lukashenko and his followers?

As a first restriction aeroplanes from Belarus lost the right to use the air space over Europe.

One can’t reason with a dictator.

And I thought we’d got rid of them in Europe.
Belarus said no to this dictator , but the mongol Moscow supports him , he sits on the bayonets.

yo must have this book


https://www.jstor.org › stable


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Charles J. Halperin, Russian and Mongols. Slavs and the ...

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Tsarev ulus: Russia in the Golden Horde (Cahiers du monde russe et ... to get more familiar with the Moscow language and with the writings of Moscow scholars. ... Moscow was the tsarev ulus, the ulus of the khan, ... later Greek terminology, basically the Turkic bureaucratic vocabulary survived ...

Russia to lend Belarus $1.5bn as Lukashenko tells Putin 'a ...

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14 Sep 2020 — The slogan for the protest on Sunday, with Lukashenko's meeting with Putin in mind, was was: “We won't let him sell the country.” Although the ...

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27 Aug 2020 — Belarus protests: Putin ready to send Lukashenko military support ... Vladimir Putin has said the Kremlin is willing to provide military or other law ...
America said "No" to Biden, but China supported him. Yesterday they gave him money, tomorrow they'll send forces, and our Democrats give up the USA.
 
Belarus needs to be isolated
The people of Belarus fight with their fists against tanks, because an army of crimonal traitors hwo torture and kill their own people protects this god damned asshole Lukashenko. How to help the people of Belarus - and to elim,iante the tyrant Lukashenko and his followers?

As a first restriction aeroplanes from Belarus lost the right to use the air space over Europe.

One can’t reason with a dictator.

And I thought we’d got rid of them in Europe.
Over the past 15 years we’ve seen an erosion of small d democracy and a rise in white nationalist authoritarian regimes exacerbated by for years of Orange Adolf.

Putin is achieving his primary goal: Make our citizens lose faith in our elections while hating those who don’t look and think like they do.
 
Belarus needs to be isolated
The people of Belarus fight with their fists against tanks, because an army of crimonal traitors hwo torture and kill their own people protects this god damned asshole Lukashenko. How to help the people of Belarus - and to elim,iante the tyrant Lukashenko and his followers?

As a first restriction aeroplanes from Belarus lost the right to use the air space over Europe.

One can’t reason with a dictator.

And I thought we’d got rid of them in Europe.
Over the past 15 years we’ve seen an erosion of small d democracy and a rise in white nationalist authoritarian regimes exacerbated by for years of Orange Adolf.

Putin is achieving his primary goal: Make our citizens lose faith in our elections while hating those who don’t look and think like they do.
Really? Was it Putin, who forced Democrats to violate laws and fight freedom of speech? Is it Putin, who force Democrats for the anti-American ideas of the "unilateral disarmament"?

Senator Markey and Rep. Blumenauer Announce Legislation to Cut $73 Billion from Bloated Nuclear Weapons Budget | U.S. Senator Ed Markey of Massachusetts
 
Belarus needs to be isolated
The people of Belarus fight with their fists against tanks, because an army of crimonal traitors hwo torture and kill their own people protects this god damned asshole Lukashenko. How to help the people of Belarus - and to elim,iante the tyrant Lukashenko and his followers?

As a first restriction aeroplanes from Belarus lost the right to use the air space over Europe.

One can’t reason with a dictator.

And I thought we’d got rid of them in Europe.
Over the past 15 years we’ve seen an erosion of small d democracy and a rise in white nationalist authoritarian regimes exacerbated by for years of Orange Adolf.

Putin is achieving his primary goal: Make our citizens lose faith in our elections while hating those who don’t look and think like they do.
According to T. Snyder, it is possible that Moscow initiated this special operation, as the activities of the NEXTA channel were a problem for the Putin regime.
Gazeta Wyborcza
 
There are two different questions. First: is it legal to land a civilian jet?
Answer: Yes, according article 1 of Chicago Convention - it is absolutely legal action.
Second: is it legal to arrest people for calling for civil unrest, for illegal meeting, for treason or whatever else?
Answer: it may be "non-democratical" (only Democrats can arrest their political competitors, we know) but it is internal business of the country.
From the syntax of the words in the post, looks like we've got another Russkie.
 
Belarus needs to be isolated
The people of Belarus fight with their fists against tanks, because an army of crimonal traitors hwo torture and kill their own people protects this god damned asshole Lukashenko. How to help the people of Belarus - and to elim,iante the tyrant Lukashenko and his followers?

As a first restriction aeroplanes from Belarus lost the right to use the air space over Europe.

One can’t reason with a dictator.

And I thought we’d got rid of them in Europe.
Aaaaaaggghr ---- this thread is INFESTED by Russians. I swear to God, it's like having mice in the kitchen. I'm out; I don't want to read propaganda by Russkies. That Silver Cat has taken over the thread. It would be nice if Americans could discuss this problem issue without Putin's Minions butting in.
 
Belarus needs to be isolated
The people of Belarus fight with their fists against tanks, because an army of crimonal traitors hwo torture and kill their own people protects this god damned asshole Lukashenko. How to help the people of Belarus - and to elim,iante the tyrant Lukashenko and his followers?

As a first restriction aeroplanes from Belarus lost the right to use the air space over Europe.

One can’t reason with a dictator.

And I thought we’d got rid of them in Europe.
Over the past 15 years we’ve seen an erosion of small d democracy and a rise in white nationalist authoritarian regimes exacerbated by for years of Orange Adolf.

Putin is achieving his primary goal: Make our citizens lose faith in our elections while hating those who don’t look and think like they do.
According to T. Snyder, it is possible that Moscow initiated this special operation, as the activities of the NEXTA channel were a problem for the Putin regime.
Gazeta Wyborcza
You’ve been reading too much right wing sci-fi ;)
 
Belarus needs to be isolated
The people of Belarus fight with their fists against tanks, because an army of crimonal traitors hwo torture and kill their own people protects this god damned asshole Lukashenko. How to help the people of Belarus - and to elim,iante the tyrant Lukashenko and his followers?

As a first restriction aeroplanes from Belarus lost the right to use the air space over Europe.

One can’t reason with a dictator.

And I thought we’d got rid of them in Europe.
Over the past 15 years we’ve seen an erosion of small d democracy and a rise in white nationalist authoritarian regimes exacerbated by for years of Orange Adolf.

Putin is achieving his primary goal: Make our citizens lose faith in our elections while hating those who don’t look and think like they do.
According to T. Snyder, it is possible that Moscow initiated this special operation, as the activities of the NEXTA channel were a problem for the Putin regime.
Gazeta Wyborcza
You’ve been reading too much right wing sci-fi ;)
T. Snyder, is a well-know historian , he is much closer to the left i´d say
 
Belarus needs to be isolated
The people of Belarus fight with their fists against tanks, because an army of crimonal traitors hwo torture and kill their own people protects this god damned asshole Lukashenko. How to help the people of Belarus - and to elim,iante the tyrant Lukashenko and his followers?

As a first restriction aeroplanes from Belarus lost the right to use the air space over Europe.

One can’t reason with a dictator.
?
And I thought we’d got rid of them in Europe.
What did you think? Lukashenko used the American style, which he had learned from Donlad Trump, isn't it? Torture is a theme in the USA. Or Donald Trump was educated from men like Lukashenko. The difference: Lukashenko really stole the elections in Belarus.
Actually, he learned it from Obama.
What a nonsense. The normal egocentrism of the people of the USA is by the way very annoying.
Ok. He learned it from Austria, who grounded a Bolivian jet in the attempt to arrest Snowden.
What did do Austria? Austria is a neutral state. Why should they care about a political problem of the USA? Edward Snowden is not a criminal. Did Bolivia ask them to do so and to stop one of their aeroplanes?
 
Belarus needs to be isolated
The people of Belarus fight with their fists against tanks, because an army of crimonal traitors hwo torture and kill their own people protects this god damned asshole Lukashenko. How to help the people of Belarus - and to elim,iante the tyrant Lukashenko and his followers?

As a first restriction aeroplanes from Belarus lost the right to use the air space over Europe.

One can’t reason with a dictator.
?
And I thought we’d got rid of them in Europe.
What did you think? Lukashenko used the American style, which he had learned from Donlad Trump, isn't it? Torture is a theme in the USA. Or Donald Trump was educated from men like Lukashenko. The difference: Lukashenko really stole the elections in Belarus.
Actually, he learned it from Obama.
What a nonsense. The normal egocentrism of the people of the USA is by the way very annoying.
Ok. He learned it from Austria, who grounded a Bolivian jet in the attempt to arrest Snowden.
What did do Austria? Austria is a neutral state. Why should they care about a political problem of the USA? Edward Snowden is not a criminal. Did Bolivia ask them to do so?
Bolivia asked them not interfere, but France, Spain, Italy and Portugal forced him to land in Austria. Bolivian diplomatic immunity was violated by Austrian police, searched the jet and only after they made sure that there are no Snowden - they allowed Evo Morales to continue his flight.
 
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Obama landed a Bolivian jet in Europe, and tried to abduct Assange. It was not a problem in 2013, and it is not a problem in 2021
That was not as you are trying to imply.
Oh, yes, sorry. It was not Assange, it was Snowden, who was a reason to ground the Bolivian jet.


According to Bolivia, the flight was rerouted to Austria when France, Spain, Portugal and Italy[3] reportedly denied access to their airspace, allegedly due to suspicions that Snowden was on board.[4]

Austria's deputy chancellor, Michael Spindelegger, said that the plane was searched, although the Bolivian Defense Minister denied a search took place, saying Morales had denied entry to his plane.[5][6] The refusals for entry into French, Spanish, and Italian airspace ostensibly for "technical reasons", strongly denounced by Bolivia, Ecuador, and other South American nations, were attributed to rumors disseminated allegedly by the US that Snowden was on board.[7][8] Spanish Minister of Foreign Affairs, José García-Margallo, publicly stated that they were told he was on board but did not specify as to who had informed them.[4]

The President of Austria, Heinz Fischer, went to greet President Morales in his plane and shared breakfast with him.[9]

The plane took off again after Austrian officials confirmed that Edward Snowden was not on board.[10]

France apologized for the incident immediately.[11] The Spanish ambassador to Bolivia apologized two weeks later, citing inappropriate procedures.[12] The Italians and Portuguese sent official explanations to the Bolivian Government.[13]

On 3 July, Jen Psaki, spokesperson for the U.S. Department of State, acknowledged that the U.S. had been "in contact with a range of countries across the world who had any chance of having Mr. Snowden land or even transit through their countries".[14][15]
Read thoroughly what you copy and past. The pilots requested landing in Austria after a number of European countries denied passage for the plane.
Yes. They forced it to ground, and only after examination of the plane - allowed to continue its flight. No difference.
Once again, the pilots themselves requested landing in Austria. Except of that, comparing Snowden with Protasevich (and the reasons why they are prosecuted) is ridiculous.
There is an article 1 of Chicago convention.
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The States can ground any plane or even all of them simultaneously (as it was in the USA in 9.11) if it required by their interests.
The USA grounded jets, the UK grounded jets, Ukraine grounded jets, Turkey grounded jets. It is normal, and it is allowed.

And comparing Snowden and Protasevich is absolutely correct. Both of them are traitors or both of them are "freedom fighters".
The main issue is not Belarus ordering the plane to land on its territory per se. It is about landing a plane on a false reason to arrest some guy who is considered a threat by the Belorussian dictator.

As I said above, comparing Snowden and Protasevich is ridiculous. I think every sane person with a grain of common sense would admit that. Try this stuff on some Russian forum from where you brought it here.
You see, you think, that Obama, Poroshenko, Erdogan and Protasevich are "good" , and Snowden, Martirosyan, Lukashenko and Putin are "bad". And what allowed for "good guys" is not allowed for "bad guys". But there are no such terms in the international laws.
It was Belorussian air, and Belorussian laws. And according Belorussian laws KGB can lie when it is required to arrest a criminal.
Lukashenko skyjacked an European aeroplane and kidnapped two passengers. If he likes to punish criminals he has to ask the EU to send this criminals to Belarus and/or he has to accuse this criminals in the European country where they live.
No. Any government can arrest criminals on their territory.
What's nonsense. When we transported the refugees from the GDR in the German embassy in Prague we had to use a train which travelled over the territory of the GDR. I remember very well how a diplomat explained the passengers that they don't have to be worried, because the train is the same as the territory of the Federal Republic of Germany.

The passengers of the European aeroplane did not enter the territory of Belarus. No one entered Belarus. They were always on the other side of the border of Belarus, because they never passed an official entry point. If someone lands in Frankfurt then he has to stay in a special area of the airport if Germany allows him not to enter Germany. He enters not Germany in this case.

Do you want to say, that if Snowden was found on the Bolivian jet, your police didn't arrest him for the USA?
Do you want to say, that what is allowed to Austria, is not allowed to Belorussia?

I don't know what had happened in Austria in this case - but Austria had for sure not any right to arrest Mr. Snowden on political reasons. This fits not with the laws of Austria, Europe and the UNO as far as I can see. Example: I never heard anyone stopped an aeroplane which flies over the own territory in Europe and arrested a thief who stole $20 in New York or some money in Moscow. The traffic would break down worldwide in such cases. Same with all other robbers, murderers and criminals of all colors - no one stops aeroplanes - except the government of the country or the airline itselve let stop a flight. But they inform normally the captain and the captain asks for help in such a case.
 
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They should release the young journalist. Immediately!

Not to forget: They arrrested also his Russian girlfriend. The journalist declared himselve "guilty" in the TV from the tyrant Lukashenko. His father said that's nonsnense beause he never had caused any riot. He said this was very clear an inscenation. His son speaks normally in another way - was lethargic. His cigarettes on the desk were not teh cigarettes he normally smoked. He thinks he had a broken nose and an immense amount of powder in the face, whic seem to hide wounds.

The criminals in Belarus have to give immediatelly back to Europe every of the passengers they have arrested. We bring our passengeers to their destiny and not into the torture chambers of a criminal government without legitimitation. This case of skyjacking is an unbelievable provocation for the complete free world.
Wow... Don't speak for the "complete free world".
Many people don't share your European love for the Nazis.
Your words here are the suicide of your own reputation. Or in American slang: "Go to hell!" ... Hey - that's funny. Perhaps I should also try to use the US-American underground language from time to time.
 
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Belarus needs to be isolated
The people of Belarus fight with their fists against tanks, because an army of crimonal traitors hwo torture and kill their own people protects this god damned asshole Lukashenko. How to help the people of Belarus - and to elim,iante the tyrant Lukashenko and his followers?

As a first restriction aeroplanes from Belarus lost the right to use the air space over Europe.

One can’t reason with a dictator.
?
And I thought we’d got rid of them in Europe.
What did you think? Lukashenko used the American style, which he had learned from Donlad Trump, isn't it? Torture is a theme in the USA. Or Donald Trump was educated from men like Lukashenko. The difference: Lukashenko really stole the elections in Belarus.
Actually, he learned it from Obama.
What a nonsense. The normal egocentrism of the people of the USA is by the way very annoying.
Ok. He learned it from Austria, who grounded a Bolivian jet in the attempt to arrest Snowden.
What did do Austria? Austria is a neutral state. Why should they care about a political problem of the USA? Edward Snowden is not a criminal. Did Bolivia ask them to do so?
Bolivia asked them not interfere, but France, Spain, Italy and Portugal forced him to land in Austria.

Never heard about. Why should Portugal tell Austria what to do or not to do? What have France, Italy and Spain to do with Edward Snowden? Edward Snowden is a political problem of the USA.

Bolivian diplomatic immunity was violated by Austrian police, searched the jet and only after they made sure that there are no Snowden - they allowed Evo Morales to continue his flight.

If so then Austria has a serios problem with Bolivia now. And if so then it is really astonishing that Austria failed in diplomatic etiquette. Same with France and Spain.
 
"Frightening Lukashenko with sanctions is doomed to failure," declared one Russian newspaper this morning. "It only eggs him on."
Then the character analysis: "He's cultivated the image of a thuggish hooligan."
It begs the question - can sanctions change a "hooligan's" behaviour? Previous attempts have failed. European leaders clearly felt that after the fake bomb scare, the diversion of Ryanair Flight 4978 to Minsk and the arrest of a political opponent on board, they needed to send a strong message that such a brazen act was unacceptable. Hence the new sanctions. It's unclear, though, how effective they will be.
Banning Belarusian airlines from flying over EU territory and calling on EU-based carriers to avoid Belarusian airspace is a financial blow to Minsk.
But Mr Lukashenko will almost certainly use this as an excuse to say to those around him - and to the Belarusian people - "Look, I told you so. The West is out to destroy Belarus, if not with bullets, then with sanctions." He will use it to batten down the hatches even more tightly in the face of an alleged external enemy.
Might there come a point when those around the leader pause to consider where Belarus is heading - its isolation, the economic consequences of Mr Lukashenko's policies, not to mention the brutality of the crackdown on his opponents?
As long as Moscow is backing him, Mr Lukashenko will feel confident of riding things out.

 
"Frightening Lukashenko with sanctions is doomed to failure," declared one Russian newspaper this morning. "It only eggs him on."
Then the character analysis: "He's cultivated the image of a thuggish hooligan."
It begs the question - can sanctions change a "hooligan's" behaviour? Previous attempts have failed. European leaders clearly felt that after the fake bomb scare, the diversion of Ryanair Flight 4978 to Minsk and the arrest of a political opponent on board, they needed to send a strong message that such a brazen act was unacceptable. Hence the new sanctions. It's unclear, though, how effective they will be.
Banning Belarusian airlines from flying over EU territory and calling on EU-based carriers to avoid Belarusian airspace is a financial blow to Minsk.
But Mr Lukashenko will almost certainly use this as an excuse to say to those around him - and to the Belarusian people - "Look, I told you so. The West is out to destroy Belarus, if not with bullets, then with sanctions." He will use it to batten down the hatches even more tightly in the face of an alleged external enemy.
Might there come a point when those around the leader pause to consider where Belarus is heading - its isolation, the economic consequences of Mr Lukashenko's policies, not to mention the brutality of the crackdown on his opponents?
As long as Moscow is backing him, Mr Lukashenko will feel confident of riding things out.

belavia is planning 50% personal cut
 
"Frightening Lukashenko with sanctions is doomed to failure," declared one Russian newspaper this morning. "It only eggs him on."
Then the character analysis: "He's cultivated the image of a thuggish hooligan."
It begs the question - can sanctions change a "hooligan's" behaviour? Previous attempts have failed. European leaders clearly felt that after the fake bomb scare, the diversion of Ryanair Flight 4978 to Minsk and the arrest of a political opponent on board, they needed to send a strong message that such a brazen act was unacceptable. Hence the new sanctions. It's unclear, though, how effective they will be.
Banning Belarusian airlines from flying over EU territory and calling on EU-based carriers to avoid Belarusian airspace is a financial blow to Minsk.
But Mr Lukashenko will almost certainly use this as an excuse to say to those around him - and to the Belarusian people - "Look, I told you so. The West is out to destroy Belarus, if not with bullets, then with sanctions." He will use it to batten down the hatches even more tightly in the face of an alleged external enemy.
Might there come a point when those around the leader pause to consider where Belarus is heading - its isolation, the economic consequences of Mr Lukashenko's policies, not to mention the brutality of the crackdown on his opponents?
As long as Moscow is backing him, Mr Lukashenko will feel confident of riding things out.

belavia is planning 50% personal cut

I feel for that young journalist.
 
"Frightening Lukashenko with sanctions is doomed to failure," declared one Russian newspaper this morning. "It only eggs him on."
Then the character analysis: "He's cultivated the image of a thuggish hooligan."
It begs the question - can sanctions change a "hooligan's" behaviour? Previous attempts have failed. European leaders clearly felt that after the fake bomb scare, the diversion of Ryanair Flight 4978 to Minsk and the arrest of a political opponent on board, they needed to send a strong message that such a brazen act was unacceptable. Hence the new sanctions. It's unclear, though, how effective they will be.
Banning Belarusian airlines from flying over EU territory and calling on EU-based carriers to avoid Belarusian airspace is a financial blow to Minsk.
But Mr Lukashenko will almost certainly use this as an excuse to say to those around him - and to the Belarusian people - "Look, I told you so. The West is out to destroy Belarus, if not with bullets, then with sanctions." He will use it to batten down the hatches even more tightly in the face of an alleged external enemy.
Might there come a point when those around the leader pause to consider where Belarus is heading - its isolation, the economic consequences of Mr Lukashenko's policies, not to mention the brutality of the crackdown on his opponents?
As long as Moscow is backing him, Mr Lukashenko will feel confident of riding things out.

belavia is planning 50% personal cut

I feel for that young journalist.
his girlfriend is in deep trouble, as well
 
"Frightening Lukashenko with sanctions is doomed to failure," declared one Russian newspaper this morning. "It only eggs him on."
Then the character analysis: "He's cultivated the image of a thuggish hooligan."
It begs the question - can sanctions change a "hooligan's" behaviour? Previous attempts have failed. European leaders clearly felt that after the fake bomb scare, the diversion of Ryanair Flight 4978 to Minsk and the arrest of a political opponent on board, they needed to send a strong message that such a brazen act was unacceptable. Hence the new sanctions. It's unclear, though, how effective they will be.
Banning Belarusian airlines from flying over EU territory and calling on EU-based carriers to avoid Belarusian airspace is a financial blow to Minsk.
But Mr Lukashenko will almost certainly use this as an excuse to say to those around him - and to the Belarusian people - "Look, I told you so. The West is out to destroy Belarus, if not with bullets, then with sanctions." He will use it to batten down the hatches even more tightly in the face of an alleged external enemy.
Might there come a point when those around the leader pause to consider where Belarus is heading - its isolation, the economic consequences of Mr Lukashenko's policies, not to mention the brutality of the crackdown on his opponents?
As long as Moscow is backing him, Mr Lukashenko will feel confident of riding things out.

belavia is planning 50% personal cut

I feel for that young journalist.
his girlfriend is in deep trouble, as well

For what?

Going on holiday with him?
 

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