Bruce Ohr transcript released

[ColonelAngus]

FISA Warrant applications don’t have to have accurate information is one of the funniest things I have ever read on here.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Isn’t all the information used to obtain a FISA warrant supposed to be vetted 100% and sworn to be true by those applying for the warrant?

Why won’t anyone put their name on the warrant and straight up say they verified all info on the application was 100% true?

Holy shit you are clueless.

That’s not how the world works.

Standard for warrants is REASONABLE SUSPICION, not 100% established guilt. Standard for a warrant on Carter was even lower, since he was already a known Russian intelligence asset, from a prior case.

Dossier material was disclosed as a political source material, but it corraborated other evidence.

When Steele himself was under oath, he would not testify that his claims were verified or even accurate, yet time and again, Obama's corrupt DOJ and FBI put these before court, repeated the lies about verification. Obama's corrupt DOJ and FBI repeatedly vouched to the Court for Steele's unquestionable integrity even after they fired him for lying.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Strzok admitted that Obama was running the spying in a text with Page.

Strzok: And hi. Went well, best we could have expected. Other than [REDACTED] quote: “the White House is running this.”

Obama used the American intelligence apparatus to spy on a political opponent.

Straight up, it’s what happened.

 

[dudmuck]

Strzok admitted that Obama was running the spying in a text with Page.

Strzok: And hi. Went well, best we could have expected. Other than [REDACTED] quote: “the White House is running this.”

Obama used the American intelligence apparatus to spy on a political opponent.

Straight up, it’s what happened.

The warrants for this surveillance were reviewed by judges.

The warrants were also renewed at regular intervals, demonstrating that investigators were able to convince the judges that they had found evidence of a crime.

Carter Page and Paul Manafort were under FISA surveillance as early as 2013, years before the dossier was commissioned by Republicans.

 

[Thinker101]

Strzok admitted that Obama was running the spying in a text with Page.

Strzok: And hi. Went well, best we could have expected. Other than [REDACTED] quote: “the White House is running this.”

Obama used the American intelligence apparatus to spy on a political opponent.

Straight up, it’s what happened.

The warrants for this surveillance were reviewed by judges.

The warrants were also renewed at regular intervals, demonstrating that investigators were able to convince the judges that they had found evidence of a crime.

Carter Page and Paul Manafort were under FISA surveillance as early as 2013, years before the dossier was commissioned by Republicans.

And now all that "evidence" has vanished....go figure.

 

[depotoo]

Those judges have been proven to be less than thorough. They rely on those brining it to them to have been thorough, Surely you are aware of the abuses that have been found for the fisc warrants in the past...
And in one set of texts they were glad to see such and such judge was a fisc judge, as they knew him.

Strzok admitted that Obama was running the spying in a text with Page.

Strzok: And hi. Went well, best we could have expected. Other than [REDACTED] quote: “the White House is running this.”

Obama used the American intelligence apparatus to spy on a political opponent.

Straight up, it’s what happened.

The warrants for this surveillance were reviewed by judges.

The warrants were also renewed at regular intervals, demonstrating that investigators were able to convince the judges that they had found evidence of a crime.

Carter Page and Paul Manafort were under FISA surveillance as early as 2013, years before the dossier was commissioned by Republicans.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Strzok admitted that Obama was running the spying in a text with Page.

Strzok: And hi. Went well, best we could have expected. Other than [REDACTED] quote: “the White House is running this.”

Obama used the American intelligence apparatus to spy on a political opponent.

Straight up, it’s what happened.

The warrants for this surveillance were reviewed by judges.

The warrants were also renewed at regular intervals, demonstrating that investigators were able to convince the judges that they had found evidence of a crime.

Carter Page and Paul Manafort were under FISA surveillance as early as 2013, years before the dossier was commissioned by Republicans.

Judges don’t investigate.

Nice to see you pivoting to blaming the court.

See the Woods procedures, they apply to investigators, not judges.

What are the “Woods Procedures?” They were procedures instituted back in the Spring of 2001 which were supposed to guarantee that from that point on, any FISA warrant requested would contain only information that had first been vetted and verified as accurate. Why? Because prior to the procedures being implemented there had been a number of cases where FISA warrants had been granted based on unverified (and eventually disproven) information, which created serious problems for the intelligence community when they were caught violating the 4th Amendment rights of American citizens. To avoid this problem in the future FBI official Michael Woods drafted procedures for future FISA warrant applications.

Sadly, it seems that in the case of Carter Page, the FBI violated the Woods Procedures and likely violated the 4th Amendment rights of Carter Page.


Why? Cuz deep state coup attempt.

 

[dudmuck]

Strzok admitted that Obama was running the spying in a text with Page.

Strzok: And hi. Went well, best we could have expected. Other than [REDACTED] quote: “the White House is running this.”

Obama used the American intelligence apparatus to spy on a political opponent.

Straight up, it’s what happened.

The warrants for this surveillance were reviewed by judges.

The warrants were also renewed at regular intervals, demonstrating that investigators were able to convince the judges that they had found evidence of a crime.

Carter Page and Paul Manafort were under FISA surveillance as early as 2013, years before the dossier was commissioned by Republicans.

Judges don’t investigate.

Nice to see you pivoting to blaming the court.

See the Woods procedures, they apply to investigators, not judges.

What are the “Woods Procedures?” They were procedures instituted back in the Spring of 2001 which were supposed to guarantee that from that point on, any FISA warrant requested would contain only information that had first been vetted and verified as accurate. Why? Because prior to the procedures being implemented there had been a number of cases where FISA warrants had been granted based on unverified (and eventually disproven) information, which created serious problems for the intelligence community when they were caught violating the 4th Amendment rights of American citizens. To avoid this problem in the future FBI official Michael Woods drafted procedures for future FISA warrant applications.

Sadly, it seems that in the case of Carter Page, the FBI violated the Woods Procedures and likely violated the 4th Amendment rights of Carter Page.


Why? Cuz deep state coup attempt.

Who is saying woods procedure was violated on carter page?
Only source of that was Nunes memo, which is completely debunked.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Strzok admitted that Obama was running the spying in a text with Page.

Strzok: And hi. Went well, best we could have expected. Other than [REDACTED] quote: “the White House is running this.”

Obama used the American intelligence apparatus to spy on a political opponent.

Straight up, it’s what happened.

The warrants for this surveillance were reviewed by judges.

The warrants were also renewed at regular intervals, demonstrating that investigators were able to convince the judges that they had found evidence of a crime.

Carter Page and Paul Manafort were under FISA surveillance as early as 2013, years before the dossier was commissioned by Republicans.

Judges don’t investigate.

Nice to see you pivoting to blaming the court.

See the Woods procedures, they apply to investigators, not judges.

What are the “Woods Procedures?” They were procedures instituted back in the Spring of 2001 which were supposed to guarantee that from that point on, any FISA warrant requested would contain only information that had first been vetted and verified as accurate. Why? Because prior to the procedures being implemented there had been a number of cases where FISA warrants had been granted based on unverified (and eventually disproven) information, which created serious problems for the intelligence community when they were caught violating the 4th Amendment rights of American citizens. To avoid this problem in the future FBI official Michael Woods drafted procedures for future FISA warrant applications.

Sadly, it seems that in the case of Carter Page, the FBI violated the Woods Procedures and likely violated the 4th Amendment rights of Carter Page.


Why? Cuz deep state coup attempt.

Who is saying woods procedure was violated on carter page?
Only source of that was Nunes memo, which is completely debunked.

Plenty of people are saying Woods procedures were violated.

Christopher Steele admits dossier charge unverified

 

[depotoo]

Not only Steele, but a few within the fbi as well.

Strzok admitted that Obama was running the spying in a text with Page.

Strzok: And hi. Went well, best we could have expected. Other than [REDACTED] quote: “the White House is running this.”

Obama used the American intelligence apparatus to spy on a political opponent.

Straight up, it’s what happened.

The warrants for this surveillance were reviewed by judges.

The warrants were also renewed at regular intervals, demonstrating that investigators were able to convince the judges that they had found evidence of a crime.

Carter Page and Paul Manafort were under FISA surveillance as early as 2013, years before the dossier was commissioned by Republicans.

Judges don’t investigate.

Nice to see you pivoting to blaming the court.

See the Woods procedures, they apply to investigators, not judges.

What are the “Woods Procedures?” They were procedures instituted back in the Spring of 2001 which were supposed to guarantee that from that point on, any FISA warrant requested would contain only information that had first been vetted and verified as accurate. Why? Because prior to the procedures being implemented there had been a number of cases where FISA warrants had been granted based on unverified (and eventually disproven) information, which created serious problems for the intelligence community when they were caught violating the 4th Amendment rights of American citizens. To avoid this problem in the future FBI official Michael Woods drafted procedures for future FISA warrant applications.

Sadly, it seems that in the case of Carter Page, the FBI violated the Woods Procedures and likely violated the 4th Amendment rights of Carter Page.


Why? Cuz deep state coup attempt.

Who is saying woods procedure was violated on carter page?
Only source of that was Nunes memo, which is completely debunked.

Plenty of people are saying Woods procedures were violated.

Christopher Steele admits dossier charge unverified

 

[WillPower]

Orr is still there....at least as of close of bidness today.....Monday is going to take a long time coming in the Orr house this weekend.....I wonder if he still has a passport?

 

[ColonelAngus]

Comey said dossier wasn’t verified.

 

[dudmuck]

Strzok admitted that Obama was running the spying in a text with Page.

Strzok: And hi. Went well, best we could have expected. Other than [REDACTED] quote: “the White House is running this.”

Obama used the American intelligence apparatus to spy on a political opponent.

Straight up, it’s what happened.

The warrants for this surveillance were reviewed by judges.

The warrants were also renewed at regular intervals, demonstrating that investigators were able to convince the judges that they had found evidence of a crime.

Carter Page and Paul Manafort were under FISA surveillance as early as 2013, years before the dossier was commissioned by Republicans.

Judges don’t investigate.

Nice to see you pivoting to blaming the court.

See the Woods procedures, they apply to investigators, not judges.

What are the “Woods Procedures?” They were procedures instituted back in the Spring of 2001 which were supposed to guarantee that from that point on, any FISA warrant requested would contain only information that had first been vetted and verified as accurate. Why? Because prior to the procedures being implemented there had been a number of cases where FISA warrants had been granted based on unverified (and eventually disproven) information, which created serious problems for the intelligence community when they were caught violating the 4th Amendment rights of American citizens. To avoid this problem in the future FBI official Michael Woods drafted procedures for future FISA warrant applications.

Sadly, it seems that in the case of Carter Page, the FBI violated the Woods Procedures and likely violated the 4th Amendment rights of Carter Page.


Why? Cuz deep state coup attempt.

Who is saying woods procedure was violated on carter page?
Only source of that was Nunes memo, which is completely debunked.

Plenty of people are saying Woods procedures were violated.

Christopher Steele admits dossier charge unverified

of course the dossier was unverified, it was raw intelligence.
But today, we know alot of it has been corroborated.
But it doesnt make any difference, because it was just supplemental information in a FISA renewal, because Carter Page was already under surveillance for years.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Strzok admitted that Obama was running the spying in a text with Page.

Strzok: And hi. Went well, best we could have expected. Other than [REDACTED] quote: “the White House is running this.”

Obama used the American intelligence apparatus to spy on a political opponent.

Straight up, it’s what happened.

The warrants for this surveillance were reviewed by judges.

The warrants were also renewed at regular intervals, demonstrating that investigators were able to convince the judges that they had found evidence of a crime.

Carter Page and Paul Manafort were under FISA surveillance as early as 2013, years before the dossier was commissioned by Republicans.

Judges don’t investigate.

Nice to see you pivoting to blaming the court.

See the Woods procedures, they apply to investigators, not judges.

What are the “Woods Procedures?” They were procedures instituted back in the Spring of 2001 which were supposed to guarantee that from that point on, any FISA warrant requested would contain only information that had first been vetted and verified as accurate. Why? Because prior to the procedures being implemented there had been a number of cases where FISA warrants had been granted based on unverified (and eventually disproven) information, which created serious problems for the intelligence community when they were caught violating the 4th Amendment rights of American citizens. To avoid this problem in the future FBI official Michael Woods drafted procedures for future FISA warrant applications.

Sadly, it seems that in the case of Carter Page, the FBI violated the Woods Procedures and likely violated the 4th Amendment rights of Carter Page.


Why? Cuz deep state coup attempt.

Who is saying woods procedure was violated on carter page?
Only source of that was Nunes memo, which is completely debunked.

Plenty of people are saying Woods procedures were violated.

Christopher Steele admits dossier charge unverified

of course the dossier was unverified, it was raw intelligence.
But today, we know alot of it has been corroborated.
But it doesnt make any difference, because it was just supplemental information in a FISA renewal, because Carter Page was already under surveillance for years.

If Dossier was used to secure warrant, information in Dossier should have been verified.

It wasn’t.

Who lied that it was verified in the FISA warrant application?

 

[dudmuck]

The warrants for this surveillance were reviewed by judges.

The warrants were also renewed at regular intervals, demonstrating that investigators were able to convince the judges that they had found evidence of a crime.

Carter Page and Paul Manafort were under FISA surveillance as early as 2013, years before the dossier was commissioned by Republicans.

Judges don’t investigate.

Nice to see you pivoting to blaming the court.

See the Woods procedures, they apply to investigators, not judges.

What are the “Woods Procedures?” They were procedures instituted back in the Spring of 2001 which were supposed to guarantee that from that point on, any FISA warrant requested would contain only information that had first been vetted and verified as accurate. Why? Because prior to the procedures being implemented there had been a number of cases where FISA warrants had been granted based on unverified (and eventually disproven) information, which created serious problems for the intelligence community when they were caught violating the 4th Amendment rights of American citizens. To avoid this problem in the future FBI official Michael Woods drafted procedures for future FISA warrant applications.

Sadly, it seems that in the case of Carter Page, the FBI violated the Woods Procedures and likely violated the 4th Amendment rights of Carter Page.


Why? Cuz deep state coup attempt.

Who is saying woods procedure was violated on carter page?
Only source of that was Nunes memo, which is completely debunked.

Plenty of people are saying Woods procedures were violated.

Christopher Steele admits dossier charge unverified

of course the dossier was unverified, it was raw intelligence.
But today, we know alot of it has been corroborated.
But it doesnt make any difference, because it was just supplemental information in a FISA renewal, because Carter Page was already under surveillance for years.

If Dossier was used to secure warrant, information in Dossier should have been verified.

It wasn’t.

Who lied that it was verified in the FISA warrant application?

FISA application evidence only needs probability of being correct, its raw intelligence.
The purpose of FISA warrant is to justify further investigation.
FISA warrant itself can never result in anybody being charged, it only allows investigation.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Judges don’t investigate.

Nice to see you pivoting to blaming the court.

See the Woods procedures, they apply to investigators, not judges.

What are the “Woods Procedures?” They were procedures instituted back in the Spring of 2001 which were supposed to guarantee that from that point on, any FISA warrant requested would contain only information that had first been vetted and verified as accurate. Why? Because prior to the procedures being implemented there had been a number of cases where FISA warrants had been granted based on unverified (and eventually disproven) information, which created serious problems for the intelligence community when they were caught violating the 4th Amendment rights of American citizens. To avoid this problem in the future FBI official Michael Woods drafted procedures for future FISA warrant applications.

Sadly, it seems that in the case of Carter Page, the FBI violated the Woods Procedures and likely violated the 4th Amendment rights of Carter Page.


Why? Cuz deep state coup attempt.

Who is saying woods procedure was violated on carter page?
Only source of that was Nunes memo, which is completely debunked.

Plenty of people are saying Woods procedures were violated.

Christopher Steele admits dossier charge unverified

of course the dossier was unverified, it was raw intelligence.
But today, we know alot of it has been corroborated.
But it doesnt make any difference, because it was just supplemental information in a FISA renewal, because Carter Page was already under surveillance for years.

If Dossier was used to secure warrant, information in Dossier should have been verified.

It wasn’t.

Who lied that it was verified in the FISA warrant application?

FISA application evidence only needs probability of being correct, its raw intelligence.
The purpose of FISA warrant is to justify further investigation.
FISA warrant itself can never result in anybody being charged, it only allows investigation.

Not accurate. Come on man.

Are you supporting an unverified document to be used to spy on political enemies of the sitting POTUS?

Really? You are fine with the Obama admin doing this?

Why?

 

[dudmuck]

Who is saying woods procedure was violated on carter page?
Only source of that was Nunes memo, which is completely debunked.

Plenty of people are saying Woods procedures were violated.

Christopher Steele admits dossier charge unverified

of course the dossier was unverified, it was raw intelligence.
But today, we know alot of it has been corroborated.
But it doesnt make any difference, because it was just supplemental information in a FISA renewal, because Carter Page was already under surveillance for years.

If Dossier was used to secure warrant, information in Dossier should have been verified.

It wasn’t.

Who lied that it was verified in the FISA warrant application?

FISA application evidence only needs probability of being correct, its raw intelligence.
The purpose of FISA warrant is to justify further investigation.
FISA warrant itself can never result in anybody being charged, it only allows investigation.

Not accurate. Come on man.

Are you supporting an unverified document to be used to spy on political enemies of the sitting POTUS?

Really? You are fine with the Obama admin doing this?

Why?

the FBI was spying on Russia, doing what they're supposed to do. Protect our country.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Plenty of people are saying Woods procedures were violated.

Christopher Steele admits dossier charge unverified

of course the dossier was unverified, it was raw intelligence.
But today, we know alot of it has been corroborated.
But it doesnt make any difference, because it was just supplemental information in a FISA renewal, because Carter Page was already under surveillance for years.

If Dossier was used to secure warrant, information in Dossier should have been verified.

It wasn’t.

Who lied that it was verified in the FISA warrant application?

FISA application evidence only needs probability of being correct, its raw intelligence.
The purpose of FISA warrant is to justify further investigation.
FISA warrant itself can never result in anybody being charged, it only allows investigation.

Not accurate. Come on man.

Are you supporting an unverified document to be used to spy on political enemies of the sitting POTUS?

Really? You are fine with the Obama admin doing this?

Why?

the FBI was spying on Russia, doing what they're supposed to do. Protect our country.

Apparently you are incapable of seeing through bullshit.