Bye, bye Pence!

[NightFox]

Analysis: Did Mike Pence just doom his 2024 chances?

At a stop in New Hampshire on Thursday night, former Vice President Mike Pence defended his actions on January 6 and, in the process, may well have doomed (or at the very least hamstrung) his chances of emerging as the Republican presidential nominee in 2024.

www.cnn.com

Pence spent 4 years sucking up to the biggest con man the world has ever seen. He heaped lavish praise and served as an echo chamber for the former, twice impeached president. No lap dog anywhere could have done it better.

But, with the game on the line, Pence showed his true colors and weak spine. He failed the biggest test of his career, to stand up for Trump and protect him from the evil Democrats by swinging the 2020 election Trump's way. And for that, Pence is forever in the Trump Cult doghouse.

Bye, bye the love and admiration of the Cult. Bye, bye any hopes for a future elected office. And, all because Pence failed to recognize that law is whatever Trump says it is. The Constitution, Bill of Rights and state laws do not count. Trump's word is the only thing that counts. Bigly!!!

18 days Pence. I bet he loves that creep Flynn, but give him credit. He kept his job while hundreds lost theirs.

I suspect the only reason Pence kept his job was because Donny couldn’t fire him, The President doesn’t have the authority to unseat the VP.

 

[Lastamender]

Analysis: Did Mike Pence just doom his 2024 chances?

At a stop in New Hampshire on Thursday night, former Vice President Mike Pence defended his actions on January 6 and, in the process, may well have doomed (or at the very least hamstrung) his chances of emerging as the Republican presidential nominee in 2024.

www.cnn.com

Pence spent 4 years sucking up to the biggest con man the world has ever seen. He heaped lavish praise and served as an echo chamber for the former, twice impeached president. No lap dog anywhere could have done it better.

But, with the game on the line, Pence showed his true colors and weak spine. He failed the biggest test of his career, to stand up for Trump and protect him from the evil Democrats by swinging the 2020 election Trump's way. And for that, Pence is forever in the Trump Cult doghouse.

Bye, bye the love and admiration of the Cult. Bye, bye any hopes for a future elected office. And, all because Pence failed to recognize that law is whatever Trump says it is. The Constitution, Bill of Rights and state laws do not count. Trump's word is the only thing that counts. Bigly!!!

Does anyone care?

 

[NightFox]

Analysis: Did Mike Pence just doom his 2024 chances?

At a stop in New Hampshire on Thursday night, former Vice President Mike Pence defended his actions on January 6 and, in the process, may well have doomed (or at the very least hamstrung) his chances of emerging as the Republican presidential nominee in 2024.

www.cnn.com

Pence spent 4 years sucking up to the biggest con man the world has ever seen. He heaped lavish praise and served as an echo chamber for the former, twice impeached president. No lap dog anywhere could have done it better.

But, with the game on the line, Pence showed his true colors and weak spine. He failed the biggest test of his career, to stand up for Trump and protect him from the evil Democrats by swinging the 2020 election Trump's way. And for that, Pence is forever in the Trump Cult doghouse.

Bye, bye the love and admiration of the Cult. Bye, bye any hopes for a future elected office. And, all because Pence failed to recognize that law is whatever Trump says it is. The Constitution, Bill of Rights and state laws do not count. Trump's word is the only thing that counts. Bigly!!!

I hope you’re right. Pence is a warmongering establishment lackey, like nearly all the pols of both parties in the imperial capital on the Potomac.

I agree gipper the last elected, truly anti-war politician left politics in 2013 (Ron Paul).

 

[toobfreak]

Analysis: Did Mike Pence just doom his 2024 chances?

At a stop in New Hampshire on Thursday night, former Vice President Mike Pence defended his actions on January 6 and, in the process, may well have doomed (or at the very least hamstrung) his chances of emerging as the Republican presidential nominee in 2024.

www.cnn.com

Pence spent 4 years sucking up to the biggest con man the world has ever seen. He heaped lavish praise and served as an echo chamber for the former, twice impeached president. No lap dog anywhere could have done it better.

But, with the game on the line, Pence showed his true colors and weak spine. He failed the biggest test of his career, to stand up for Trump and protect him from the evil Democrats by swinging the 2020 election Trump's way. And for that, Pence is forever in the Trump Cult doghouse.

Bye, bye the love and admiration of the Cult. Bye, bye any hopes for a future elected office. And, all because Pence failed to recognize that law is whatever Trump says it is. The Constitution, Bill of Rights and state laws do not count. Trump's word is the only thing that counts. Bigly!!!

Throw some water on your face and try to shake off the hangover. Mike Pence never was in ANY picture as a potential candidate for anything ever.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Analysis: Did Mike Pence just doom his 2024 chances?

At a stop in New Hampshire on Thursday night, former Vice President Mike Pence defended his actions on January 6 and, in the process, may well have doomed (or at the very least hamstrung) his chances of emerging as the Republican presidential nominee in 2024.

www.cnn.com

Pence spent 4 years sucking up to the biggest con man the world has ever seen. He heaped lavish praise and served as an echo chamber for the former, twice impeached president. No lap dog anywhere could have done it better.

But, with the game on the line, Pence showed his true colors and weak spine. He failed the biggest test of his career, to stand up for Trump and protect him from the evil Democrats by swinging the 2020 election Trump's way. And for that, Pence is forever in the Trump Cult doghouse.

Bye, bye the love and admiration of the Cult. Bye, bye any hopes for a future elected office. And, all because Pence failed to recognize that law is whatever Trump says it is. The Constitution, Bill of Rights and state laws do not count. Trump's word is the only thing that counts. Bigly!!!

Trump broke the Left

 

[Moonglow]

Analysis: Did Mike Pence just doom his 2024 chances?

At a stop in New Hampshire on Thursday night, former Vice President Mike Pence defended his actions on January 6 and, in the process, may well have doomed (or at the very least hamstrung) his chances of emerging as the Republican presidential nominee in 2024.

www.cnn.com

Pence spent 4 years sucking up to the biggest con man the world has ever seen. He heaped lavish praise and served as an echo chamber for the former, twice impeached president. No lap dog anywhere could have done it better.

But, with the game on the line, Pence showed his true colors and weak spine. He failed the biggest test of his career, to stand up for Trump and protect him from the evil Democrats by swinging the 2020 election Trump's way. And for that, Pence is forever in the Trump Cult doghouse.

Bye, bye the love and admiration of the Cult. Bye, bye any hopes for a future elected office. And, all because Pence failed to recognize that law is whatever Trump says it is. The Constitution, Bill of Rights and state laws do not count. Trump's word is the only thing that counts. Bigly!!!

Why Trump is the next best thing to a despot a cult could love.

 

[JoeB131]

You don't know that anymore than anybody else unless you have a crystal ball. You're simply conveying your own bias.

I can go by historical odds. Presidents usually get re-elected. Since 1900, 15 incumbent presidents have been re-elected - McKinley, T. Roosevelt*, Wilson, Coolidge*, FD Roosevelt (3 times), Truman*, Eisenhower, LBJ*, Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, Bush-43, Obama
(*- I am counting guys who took the job because the main guy died in office).

The only time they don't is if
1) They really, really fucked it up. (Hoover, Trump, Ford)
2) They angered a part of their coalition who defected to a third party (Bush-41, Carter, Taft)

Even not particularly good/popular presidents get re-elected, such as Bush-43, or Nixon, or Harry Truman. Heck, even Jerry Ford came damned close to a second term, despite pardoning Nixon, losing Vietnam and wrecking the economy, and he never got elected on a national ticket to start with. That's how much you get from incumbency.

It all depends on who the Republicans run against him. A lot of people are going to be reluctant to reelect an 82 year old man to the presidency knowing the more than fair odds he won't live to finish the term.

A president hasn't died in office from natural causes in 76 years. People know that these guys get the best medical care in the world. And frankly, I'd like to be as vigorous as Biden is at 79.

As long as the Republican candidate isn't Trump Part II they will have that advantage right out of the gate.

Will they? The Republicans haven't won the popular vote since 1988 except for one time, and they had to scare the hell out of us to do it.

The problem with the GOP is that they have to pander to a base that is basically nuts. They can't walk that back after the election. And frankly, what incentive do they have to not be Trump II, Electric Bugaloo? Trump excites the base. Even if Trump doesn't run, they'll have to outcrazy each other to get the same result.

I doubt very much Biden runs again anyway, so the point is likely moot.

Well, you guys can hope. Biden or not, Republicans still have the same problem. It's become a white identity party in a country that is increasingly anti-racist.

 

[JoeB131]

Trump broke the Left

Yup, that's why they have the White House, Senate and House...

Trump is the first president since Hoover to lose them all in a single term.

 

[gipper]

Analysis: Did Mike Pence just doom his 2024 chances?

At a stop in New Hampshire on Thursday night, former Vice President Mike Pence defended his actions on January 6 and, in the process, may well have doomed (or at the very least hamstrung) his chances of emerging as the Republican presidential nominee in 2024.

www.cnn.com

Pence spent 4 years sucking up to the biggest con man the world has ever seen. He heaped lavish praise and served as an echo chamber for the former, twice impeached president. No lap dog anywhere could have done it better.

But, with the game on the line, Pence showed his true colors and weak spine. He failed the biggest test of his career, to stand up for Trump and protect him from the evil Democrats by swinging the 2020 election Trump's way. And for that, Pence is forever in the Trump Cult doghouse.

Bye, bye the love and admiration of the Cult. Bye, bye any hopes for a future elected office. And, all because Pence failed to recognize that law is whatever Trump says it is. The Constitution, Bill of Rights and state laws do not count. Trump's word is the only thing that counts. Bigly!!!

I hope you’re right. Pence is a warmongering establishment lackey, like nearly all the pols of both parties in the imperial capital on the Potomac.

Is that why Trump picked him as his VP?

Maybe. Trump surrounded himself with establishment assholes, while claiming to be anti-establishment.

It was reported at the time the Don’s wife told him to pick Pence, because he wouldn’t undermine Don.

 

[B. Kidd]

Analysis: Did Mike Pence just doom his 2024 chances?

At a stop in New Hampshire on Thursday night, former Vice President Mike Pence defended his actions on January 6 and, in the process, may well have doomed (or at the very least hamstrung) his chances of emerging as the Republican presidential nominee in 2024.

www.cnn.com

Pence spent 4 years sucking up to the biggest con man the world has ever seen. He heaped lavish praise and served as an echo chamber for the former, twice impeached president. No lap dog anywhere could have done it better.

But, with the game on the line, Pence showed his true colors and weak spine. He failed the biggest test of his career, to stand up for Trump and protect him from the evil Democrats by swinging the 2020 election Trump's way. And for that, Pence is forever in the Trump Cult doghouse.

Bye, bye the love and admiration of the Cult. Bye, bye any hopes for a future elected office. And, all because Pence failed to recognize that law is whatever Trump says it is. The Constitution, Bill of Rights and state laws do not count. Trump's word is the only thing that counts. Bigly!!!

Does anyone care?

Fuck no!
Only politically ignorant morons!!

 

[Synthaholic]

I don't think Mike Pence has any aspirations to be the President.

He seemed like a reluctant VP...

Yeah, that's why he's giving a speech in...*checks notes*...New Hampshire.

That's meaningless. He could just be doing some general stumping to start getting people riled up for whoever the GOP candidate actually is.

Make Pence was, largely, an absent VP. Someone like Gore, though, was out in front on a lot of issues, inventing the interwebs, etc, that it gave him a degree of recognizability that made it possible for him to be a viable Presidential candidate. I just don't see where Pence as that...

Pence is leading all GOP polls. By a lot. But it's still a pitiful 24% or less. But DeathSantis is only 4%.

Correction: 8% PDF LINK

 

[Synthaholic]

Even liberals down here like DeSantis.

No we don't.

Republicans don't even like him much any more.

 

[Synthaholic]

Trump supporters did not/do not want pence dead

 

[Synthaholic]

He's a real conservative, not a Neo-Con

Conservatism is dead. It was on its last legs, then Trump killed it off.

 

[Synthaholic]

 

[lantern2814]

Pence was never a serious candidate for President. He likely never wanted it to begin with. Xiden? Please run him. Just with the first 100 days disaster a string bean would beat him. Plus the fact that states are making it a lot harder for Dems to cheat now.

 

[Care4all]

The rubes wanted him dead.

thats a damn lie

Trump supporters did not/do not want pence dead

"And Pence, as vice president on that day, had no role other than a ceremonial one -- to oversee the formal certification of the electoral vote count that showed Joe Biden as the winner of the 2020 election"

OK.

If it was merely ceremonial why do it?

Biden would be certified as president with or without pence.

It's to enter the electoral college vote that took place in December, in to the Congressional records, the government archival records,

It's ceremonial and for the record purpose above...from what I have read on it....

 

[Synthaholic]

Trump broke the Left conservatism

Fixed

 

[Lastamender]

The rubes wanted him dead.

thats a damn lie

Trump supporters did not/do not want pence dead

"And Pence, as vice president on that day, had no role other than a ceremonial one -- to oversee the formal certification of the electoral vote count that showed Joe Biden as the winner of the 2020 election"

OK.

If it was merely ceremonial why do it?

Biden would be certified as president with or without pence.

It's to enter the electoral college vote that took place in December, in to the Congressional records, the government archival records,

It's ceremonial and for the record purpose above...from what I have read on it....

And they knew damn well that half the country did not want it to happen until the fraud was investigated. They did it anyway. That is not how this country should work, and any idiot knows that.

They have perverted traditions to suit their needs, and flipped patriotism upside down. We are not here to defend criminals.

 

[Synthaholic]

Analysis: Did Mike Pence just doom his 2024 chances?

At a stop in New Hampshire on Thursday night, former Vice President Mike Pence defended his actions on January 6 and, in the process, may well have doomed (or at the very least hamstrung) his chances of emerging as the Republican presidential nominee in 2024.

www.cnn.com

Pence spent 4 years sucking up to the biggest con man the world has ever seen. He heaped lavish praise and served as an echo chamber for the former, twice impeached president. No lap dog anywhere could have done it better.

But, with the game on the line, Pence showed his true colors and weak spine. He failed the biggest test of his career, to stand up for Trump and protect him from the evil Democrats by swinging the 2020 election Trump's way. And for that, Pence is forever in the Trump Cult doghouse.

Bye, bye the love and admiration of the Cult. Bye, bye any hopes for a future elected office. And, all because Pence failed to recognize that law is whatever Trump says it is. The Constitution, Bill of Rights and state laws do not count. Trump's word is the only thing that counts. Bigly!!!

I hope you’re right. Pence is a warmongering establishment lackey, like nearly all the pols of both parties in the imperial capital on the Potomac.

Is that why Trump picked him as his VP?

Maybe. Trump surrounded himself with establishment assholes, while claiming to be anti-establishment.

It was reported at the time the Don’s wife told him to pick Pence, because he wouldn’t undermine Don.

Manifort picked Pence. This has been a known fact for at least 3 years, if not since Trump was president-elect.