Calafornia new gun law to be on a ballot in 2016

[Auld Phart]

California is putting on their ballot in the 2016 election to all citizens of California ... If you want to buy bullets for your gun you have to have a back ground check ... what a better way to slow don't how crooks get their bullets ... yes they will get them but all bullets will be tagged so if somebody buys them for you and that crook is caught with your bullets then you are charged with a felony too... if your bullets are stolen then you have to report them just like you have to report a stolen gun ... couldn't find a better way to slow down these killing around the country

P.S.
the gun lobby can't do a thing about it

More harassment of lawful gun owners in the misguided attempt to "fix something".

how is that harassment ??? once you have been checked you're on file... once you're on file all you have to do is give you ID and you have your bullets ... so how is that harassment making sure you are not a criminal buying bullets

Because you twats won't stop at that, soon there will be waiting period proposals, grain limits on bullets, and all sorts of crap you fools come up with.

We. Don't. Trust. You.

Ni shagu nazad!

to bad thats the way its going to be... if you don't like it, leave the country ... go where they say you can buy all the guns you want and all the bullets you want and not be responsible for your weapons ... whaaaaaat their isn't any such country ???? sucks to be gunslinger you

... go where they say you can buy all the guns you want and all the bullets you want and not be responsible for your weapons ... whaaaaaat their isn't any such country ????

Already live in a country like that

sucks to be gunslinger you

Not as much as it sucks to be you, hoping the 2nd Amendment might be repealed

 

[Lonestar_logic]

California is putting on their ballot in the 2016 election to all citizens of California ... If you want to buy bullets for your gun you have to have a back ground check ... what a better way to slow don't how crooks get their bullets ... yes they will get them but all bullets will be tagged so if somebody buys them for you and that crook is caught with your bullets then you are charged with a felony too... if your bullets are stolen then you have to report them just like you have to report a stolen gun ... couldn't find a better way to slow down these killing around the country

P.S.
the gun lobby can't do a thing about it

I think you are full of shit. But I'll give you a chance to redeem yourself. All you have to do is post a link to the proposed law.

Read post 2.

Post 2 is an article not the actual proposed law.

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, obviously.

Reading comprehension is obviously not your strong suit since the Measure has not been written yet. You would know that if you read the link I provided.

However, you can determine that the OP is correct about the nature of the proposed Measure. The nuts and bolts of it are laid out plainly enough for even you to understand. And the threshold for getting such a Measure on the ballot is quit easy to achieve.

So...read Post 2.

If it hasn't been written then how can anyone speak about the specifics of it? Nothing indicates the OP was accurate in his statements.

Troll thread from the beginning.

 

[g5000]

All these gun control laws are feel-good laws which will achieve nothing in the way of stopping mass shootings.

There is only one way to stop mass shootings, and it will require the repeal of the Second Amendment.

So until the Left admits it wants to repeal the Second Amendment, then they are just putting on theater for the rubes with these ineffective laws.

Would that prevent mass shootings?

You would have to un-invent the firearm to do that.

Once you repeal the 2nd Amendment, you can confiscate guns like Australia. Then mass shootings and all gun homicides will plummet, just as they did in Australia.

Will it entirely stop mass shootings? Nope, but it would be very, very effective. Unlike the current showpiece anti-gun legislation.

 

[Auld Phart]

All these gun control laws are feel-good laws which will achieve nothing in the way of stopping mass shootings.

There is only one way to stop mass shootings, and it will require the repeal of the Second Amendment.

So until the Left admits it wants to repeal the Second Amendment, then they are just putting on theater for the rubes with these ineffective laws.

Would that prevent mass shootings?

You would have to un-invent the firearm to do that.

Once you repeal the 2nd Amendment, you can confiscate guns like Australia. Then mass shootings and all gun homicides will plummet, just as they did in Australia.

Will it entirely stop mass shootings? Nope, but it would be very, very effective. Unlike the current showpiece anti-gun legislation.

Once you repeal the 2nd Amendment, you can confiscate guns like Australia

How you figure they are going to confiscate 310,000,000 firearms with any degree of success?

Even honest citizens will balk at giving up their arms.

 

[Conservative65]

California is putting on their ballot in the 2016 election to all citizens of California ... If you want to buy bullets for your gun you have to have a back ground check ... what a better way to slow don't how crooks get their bullets ... yes they will get them but all bullets will be tagged so if somebody buys them for you and that crook is caught with your bullets then you are charged with a felony too... if your bullets are stolen then you have to report them just like you have to report a stolen gun ... couldn't find a better way to slow down these killing around the country

P.S.
the gun lobby can't do a thing about it

More harassment of lawful gun owners in the misguided attempt to "fix something".

how is that harassment ??? once you have been checked you're on file... once you're on file all you have to do is give you ID and you have your bullets ... so how is that harassment making sure you are not a criminal buying bullets

It's considered harassment when those receiving social welfare handouts have to take a drug test in order to continue getting them.

what the hell does this got to do with back ground checks??? are you nuts????

It's called a comparison showing hypocrisy. Those who ask things like "how is that harassment?" when it comes to asking people to be checked and put on file and the same ones who say it is harassment when someone receiving a handout of another person's money is expected to do a drug test to get it.

If it's harassment in one, it's harassment in another and the specific item is irrelevant. It's the process.

 

[billyerock1991]

California is putting on their ballot in the 2016 election to all citizens of California ... If you want to buy bullets for your gun you have to have a back ground check ... what a better way to slow don't how crooks get their bullets ... yes they will get them but all bullets will be tagged so if somebody buys them for you and that crook is caught with your bullets then you are charged with a felony too... if your bullets are stolen then you have to report them just like you have to report a stolen gun ... couldn't find a better way to slow down these killing around the country

P.S.
the gun lobby can't do a thing about it

More harassment of lawful gun owners in the misguided attempt to "fix something".

how is that harassment ??? once you have been checked you're on file... once you're on file all you have to do is give you ID and you have your bullets ... so how is that harassment making sure you are not a criminal buying bullets

Because you twats won't stop at that, soon there will be waiting period proposals, grain limits on bullets, and all sorts of crap you fools come up with.

We. Don't. Trust. You.

Ni shagu nazad!

to bad thats the way its going to be... if you don't like it, leave the country ... go where they say you can buy all the guns you want and all the bullets you want and not be responsible for your weapons ... whaaaaaat their isn't any such country ???? sucks to be gunslinger you

I don't have to go anywhere, the 2nd amendment protects my RKBA without infringement.

if you're a crook or crazy you won't be able to buy bullets or a gun to shoot them with ....its that simple and as for the second amendment, you still get to buy a guy and your bullets just as long as you're not a crook or a crazy good luck with your so-called infringement problem ... the days of you being able to buy willy nilly a gun and bullets will soon be over ...if you are a crook ...it will make it harder for them to buy ... whether you like it or not ...don't care ... its time to make it harder for criminals to buy bullets and guns

 

[martybegan]

More harassment of lawful gun owners in the misguided attempt to "fix something".

how is that harassment ??? once you have been checked you're on file... once you're on file all you have to do is give you ID and you have your bullets ... so how is that harassment making sure you are not a criminal buying bullets

Because you twats won't stop at that, soon there will be waiting period proposals, grain limits on bullets, and all sorts of crap you fools come up with.

We. Don't. Trust. You.

Ni shagu nazad!

to bad thats the way its going to be... if you don't like it, leave the country ... go where they say you can buy all the guns you want and all the bullets you want and not be responsible for your weapons ... whaaaaaat their isn't any such country ???? sucks to be gunslinger you

I don't have to go anywhere, the 2nd amendment protects my RKBA without infringement.

if you're a crook or crazy you won't be able to buy bullets or a gun to shoot them with ....its that simple and as for the second amendment, you still get to buy a guy and your bullets just as long as you're not a crook or a crazy good luck with your so-called infringement problem ... the days of you being able to buy willy nilly a gun and bullets will soon be over ...if you are a crook ...it will make it harder for them to buy ... whether you like it or not ...don't care ... its time to make it harder for criminals to buy bullets and guns

You won't stop there, and we both know it.

 

[g5000]

All these gun control laws are feel-good laws which will achieve nothing in the way of stopping mass shootings.

There is only one way to stop mass shootings, and it will require the repeal of the Second Amendment.

So until the Left admits it wants to repeal the Second Amendment, then they are just putting on theater for the rubes with these ineffective laws.

Would that prevent mass shootings?

You would have to un-invent the firearm to do that.

Once you repeal the 2nd Amendment, you can confiscate guns like Australia. Then mass shootings and all gun homicides will plummet, just as they did in Australia.

Will it entirely stop mass shootings? Nope, but it would be very, very effective. Unlike the current showpiece anti-gun legislation.

Once you repeal the 2nd Amendment, you can confiscate guns like Australia

How you figure they are going to confiscate 310,000,000 firearms with any degree of success?

Even honest citizens will balk at giving up their arms.

Which is why in every other topic where I have said the only way to stop mass shooting is to repeal the Second, I said, "Not gonna happen."

 

[Conservative65]

All these gun control laws are feel-good laws which will achieve nothing in the way of stopping mass shootings.

There is only one way to stop mass shootings, and it will require the repeal of the Second Amendment.

So until the Left admits it wants to repeal the Second Amendment, then they are just putting on theater for the rubes with these ineffective laws.

Would that prevent mass shootings?

You would have to un-invent the firearm to do that.

Once you repeal the 2nd Amendment, you can confiscate guns like Australia. Then mass shootings and all gun homicides will plummet, just as they did in Australia.

Will it entirely stop mass shootings? Nope, but it would be very, very effective. Unlike the current showpiece anti-gun legislation.

They dropped in Australia? This and more like it say otherwise:

www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847

 

[martybegan]

All these gun control laws are feel-good laws which will achieve nothing in the way of stopping mass shootings.

There is only one way to stop mass shootings, and it will require the repeal of the Second Amendment.

So until the Left admits it wants to repeal the Second Amendment, then they are just putting on theater for the rubes with these ineffective laws.

Would that prevent mass shootings?

You would have to un-invent the firearm to do that.

Once you repeal the 2nd Amendment, you can confiscate guns like Australia. Then mass shootings and all gun homicides will plummet, just as they did in Australia.

Will it entirely stop mass shootings? Nope, but it would be very, very effective. Unlike the current showpiece anti-gun legislation.

Except for all the mass shootings that will occur during confiscation attempts.

 

[g5000]

So here's the deal.

Instant background checks won't stop mass shootings or gun homicides.

Assault weapons bans won't stop mass shootings or gun homicides.

Only the repeal of the Second Amendment would made a serious dent in mass shootings and gun homicides, and that isn't going to happen.


SO NOW WHAT!?!?


No one has ever answered that, because they don't have an answer. That's why EVERY GUN CONTROL DISCUSSION is a ginormous waste of time.

 

[Cecilie1200]

California is putting on their ballot in the 2016 election to all citizens of California ... If you want to buy bullets for your gun you have to have a back ground check ... what a better way to slow don't how crooks get their bullets ... yes they will get them but all bullets will be tagged so if somebody buys them for you and that crook is caught with your bullets then you are charged with a felony too... if your bullets are stolen then you have to report them just like you have to report a stolen gun ... couldn't find a better way to slow down these killing around the country

P.S.
the gun lobby can't do a thing about it

but whatever sane voters are left in California by then can. Indeed, if your pipe dreams get voted down, who are you going to blame then? I know I'll be laughing...at you, not with you.

not blaming anyone ....what I'm saying is this is the pathway for all states to do ... have your voters decide not some politician whose bought out by the gun lobby ... we are taking the politician totally out of the mix and putting it to the voter... if the voters say no we don't want this law, fine then the voter has spoke ... but if it does pass then the voter has spoke and theirs nothing you can say or do to stop it after all back ground check are allow by law by the supreme court

Yes, well, as you leftists keep telling us about all manner of things that don't actually appear in the Constitution at all, unlike the right to bear arms, "you don't get to vote on people's civil rights!"

You want to "take the politician out of the mix and leave it to the voter"? Then let the people vote on amending the Constitution. Otherwise, not gonna happen.

And no, ammunition is not the "clever" end-run around the Second Amendment you believe it to be. The right is "to keep and bear arms". Without ammunition, a gun is not an "arm"; it is a paperweight. The ammunition is an essential part of its status and function as an "arm".

 

[Cecilie1200]

California is putting on their ballot in the 2016 election to all citizens of California ... If you want to buy bullets for your gun you have to have a back ground check ... what a better way to slow don't how crooks get their bullets ... yes they will get them but all bullets will be tagged so if somebody buys them for you and that crook is caught with your bullets then you are charged with a felony too... if your bullets are stolen then you have to report them just like you have to report a stolen gun ... couldn't find a better way to slow down these killing around the country

P.S.
the gun lobby can't do a thing about it

Yes….mass shooters will get a background check for their ammo…and then murder people.

Criminals will use straw buyers to buy ammo, and they will steal ammo……it will take a criminal less time to get ammo than it will for normal citizens….

Why are you guys so freaking stupid?

the law say just like a gun if you are found with bullets and you are a crook you go to jail ... these straw buyers in california will go to jail for selling bullets too that's the way the law is written ... so you can say what you want, they are makeinfg people who have legal weapons that they have to be responsiblefor their guns and their bullets... its that simple

Oh, okay. "Well, it'll be illegal, so that'll stop them!"

 

[Cecilie1200]

California is putting on their ballot in the 2016 election to all citizens of California ... If you want to buy bullets for your gun you have to have a back ground check ... what a better way to slow don't how crooks get their bullets ... yes they will get them but all bullets will be tagged so if somebody buys them for you and that crook is caught with your bullets then you are charged with a felony too... if your bullets are stolen then you have to report them just like you have to report a stolen gun ... couldn't find a better way to slow down these killing around the country

P.S.
the gun lobby can't do a thing about it

Yes….mass shooters will get a background check for their ammo…and then murder people.

Criminals will use straw buyers to buy ammo, and they will steal ammo……it will take a criminal less time to get ammo than it will for normal citizens….

Why are you guys so freaking stupid?

the way the law is written if you have crazy in your back ground you don't get bullets

The law already says that for guns. If THAT doesn't work, what makes you think the same thing for ammunition will, Amoeba Brain?

 

[billyerock1991]

California is putting on their ballot in the 2016 election to all citizens of California ... If you want to buy bullets for your gun you have to have a back ground check ... what a better way to slow don't how crooks get their bullets ... yes they will get them but all bullets will be tagged so if somebody buys them for you and that crook is caught with your bullets then you are charged with a felony too... if your bullets are stolen then you have to report them just like you have to report a stolen gun ... couldn't find a better way to slow down these killing around the country

P.S.
the gun lobby can't do a thing about it

More harassment of lawful gun owners in the misguided attempt to "fix something".

how is that harassment ??? once you have been checked you're on file... once you're on file all you have to do is give you ID and you have your bullets ... so how is that harassment making sure you are not a criminal buying bullets

It's considered harassment when those receiving social welfare handouts have to take a drug test in order to continue getting them.

what the hell does this got to do with back ground checks??? are you nuts????

It's called a comparison showing hypocrisy. Those who ask things like "how is that harassment?" when it comes to asking people to be checked and put on file and the same ones who say it is harassment when someone receiving a handout of another person's money is expected to do a drug test to get it.

If it's harassment in one, it's harassment in another and the specific item is irrelevant. It's the process.

No its called you being a but head trying to dodge the issue ... if you feel the need to talk about those receiving social welfare handouts not having to take a drug test, then go to that post and discuss it there ...

just so you know ... they tried that in florida under the currant governor what they found out that it cost the taxpayer millions of dollars for these test and the caught less the .02% of the people who are receiving social welfare handouts on drugs, you idiot ...so your point here is like I said, a dodge ...

P.S. that's what you conservatives do when you can't justify your talking point .. its look over here look at the shiny object over here

 

[Conservative65]

More harassment of lawful gun owners in the misguided attempt to "fix something".

how is that harassment ??? once you have been checked you're on file... once you're on file all you have to do is give you ID and you have your bullets ... so how is that harassment making sure you are not a criminal buying bullets

It's considered harassment when those receiving social welfare handouts have to take a drug test in order to continue getting them.

what the hell does this got to do with back ground checks??? are you nuts????

It's called a comparison showing hypocrisy. Those who ask things like "how is that harassment?" when it comes to asking people to be checked and put on file and the same ones who say it is harassment when someone receiving a handout of another person's money is expected to do a drug test to get it.

If it's harassment in one, it's harassment in another and the specific item is irrelevant. It's the process.

No its called you being a but head trying to dodge the issue ... if you feel the need to talk about those receiving social welfare handouts not having to take a drug test, then go to that post and discuss it there ...

just so you know ... they tried that in florida under the currant governor what they found out that it cost the taxpayer millions of dollars for these test and the caught less the .02% of the people who are receiving social welfare handouts on drugs, you idiot ...so your point here is like I said, a dodge ...

I addressed your hypocrisy by showing you apply a different standard to the same type of situation.

How many gun owners misuse guns?

 

[Cecilie1200]

California is putting on their ballot in the 2016 election to all citizens of California ... If you want to buy bullets for your gun you have to have a back ground check ... what a better way to slow don't how crooks get their bullets ... yes they will get them but all bullets will be tagged so if somebody buys them for you and that crook is caught with your bullets then you are charged with a felony too... if your bullets are stolen then you have to report them just like you have to report a stolen gun ... couldn't find a better way to slow down these killing around the country

P.S.
the gun lobby can't do a thing about it

Oh, it will go to court, just like all those other California props.

I'm sure it will pass with no problems at all in the supreme court ... just like the laws that were passed for back ground checks for you to buy a guy ... they supreme court ruled that's its ok for the citizen to buy a gun if they can prove they are a felon ... so your thought that the Idea of making them pass a back ground check for bullets the actual thing that does the killing of people, as Arnold would say about their bill passing the supreme court, if it gets that far, NO problimo

And those laws about background checks…..how many mass shooters did they stop?

How many criminals didn't get guns because of background checks?

Why is it you take great pride in passing laws that don't do anything to stop the activity you want the law to stop?

the laws about back ground check on mass shooters were never done ... they didn't reveal that they were nuts in the back ground check because of privacy laws on crazies,... this changes it all ,,,your nuts you don't get bullets

So basically, you want to have the exact same law for bullets that you have for guns, even though you admit it doesn't work with the guns.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

California is putting on their ballot in the 2016 election to all citizens of California ... If you want to buy bullets for your gun you have to have a back ground check ... what a better way to slow don't how crooks get their bullets ... yes they will get them but all bullets will be tagged so if somebody buys them for you and that crook is caught with your bullets then you are charged with a felony too... if your bullets are stolen then you have to report them just like you have to report a stolen gun ... couldn't find a better way to slow down these killing around the country

P.S.
the gun lobby can't do a thing about it

Oh, it will go to court, just like all those other California props.

And they'll go against the citizens like they did with gay marriage.
Why bother to vote on it?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

California is putting on their ballot in the 2016 election to all citizens of California ... If you want to buy bullets for your gun you have to have a back ground check ... what a better way to slow don't how crooks get their bullets ... yes they will get them but all bullets will be tagged so if somebody buys them for you and that crook is caught with your bullets then you are charged with a felony too... if your bullets are stolen then you have to report them just like you have to report a stolen gun ... couldn't find a better way to slow down these killing around the country

P.S.
the gun lobby can't do a thing about it

More harassment of lawful gun owners in the misguided attempt to "fix something".

how is that harassment ??? once you have been checked you're on file... once you're on file all you have to do is give you ID and you have your bullets ... so how is that harassment making sure you are not a criminal buying bullets

Voter I.D.

 

[billyerock1991]

California is putting on their ballot in the 2016 election to all citizens of California ... If you want to buy bullets for your gun you have to have a back ground check ... what a better way to slow don't how crooks get their bullets ... yes they will get them but all bullets will be tagged so if somebody buys them for you and that crook is caught with your bullets then you are charged with a felony too... if your bullets are stolen then you have to report them just like you have to report a stolen gun ... couldn't find a better way to slow down these killing around the country

P.S.
the gun lobby can't do a thing about it

Yes….mass shooters will get a background check for their ammo…and then murder people.

Criminals will use straw buyers to buy ammo, and they will steal ammo……it will take a criminal less time to get ammo than it will for normal citizens….

Why are you guys so freaking stupid?

the way the law is written if you have crazy in your back ground you don't get bullets

The law already says that for guns. If THAT doesn't work, what makes you think the same thing for ammunition will, Amoeba Brain?

well brain dead one, they can't buy bullets ... the law say that if you are crazy the doctors who deem you as crazy doesn't have to report you to the national crazy list ... if you read the damn law... California says if you are deem as crazy then they have to be reported to the state, oh brain dead one !!!