California's War With Trump Part Of A Democrat Plan Of Economic Oppression

[Juan de Fuca]

All the leftists can push out their chests all they want. California will comply with the law, and any area that doesn't, their politicians will be arrested and prosecuted in federal court, AFTER they are removed from office.

LOL, you have quite an imagination.

Nope, I am a realist. You are in fantasyland my incompetent friend. Not only is California going to comply, when push comes to shove if their politicians put up to much smoke, California LEGAL residents will recall 1/2 of them if it is allowed. What do you actually think.........only leftists know how to play dirty when in control of the federal government, lolol! If that is what you think, then you are a fool; a fool who will soon be sorely disappointed, hehehehehehehe!

You have no idea what you're talking about. California will not get shoved around and the Dump administration isn't going to do anything to jeopardize the economy of the state that the rest of the country depends upon. We have our exit on the next ballot it would be a hell of a note if Trump swung that election by his colossal stupidity.

We are laughing at you, and your phony threat of your bumbling vote means nothing. You will comply. Go sell your phony narrative elsewhere, because everyone but you knows it, lolololol!

You obviously aren't from the west coast because you talk like an idiot who thinks he knows something.

 

[danielpalos]

What better way to create a permanent underclass and at the same time create absolute dependency of the voters to government than pick a fight with the federal government.

In 3rd world banana republic dictators need a desperate and dependent country that is literally on the edge of starvation to stay in power. Perhaps this is why Democrats openly admire the Fidel Castros and similar totalitarian leaders. This is a product of liberal mindset based in communist upbringing. It seems that the only folks that admire communism the most never had to live under it.

California is daring Trump to withhold federal funds, or at least Governor Jerry Moonbeam Brown is. What better way to get his transplanted immigrant population behind him than to give them a Devil to hate.

California gave Hillary most of her imaginary popular vote advantage in a highly suspect election. They flouted election laws by allowing millions of illegals to vote and now they're threatening to withhold their federal taxes, yet another act of defiance that will create a massive legal problem for the president.

BTW, many criminals in US history skated the law only to get thrown in prison for income tax evasion. I sincerely hope Jerry Brown tries this.

If Trump does try to take away California’s federal dollars, he faces a rough time

D'OH

California is among the least dependent States, for federal dollars.

Then this threat that Trump want to purpose against sanctuary cities, should not phase them or even matter to involve any media hype to the issue.

not much; except for right wing national socialist whining.

who's that?

the national socialist right wing?

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

What better way to create a permanent underclass and at the same time create absolute dependency of the voters to government than pick a fight with the federal government.

In 3rd world banana republic dictators need a desperate and dependent country that is literally on the edge of starvation to stay in power. Perhaps this is why Democrats openly admire the Fidel Castros and similar totalitarian leaders. This is a product of liberal mindset based in communist upbringing. It seems that the only folks that admire communism the most never had to live under it.

California is daring Trump to withhold federal funds, or at least Governor Jerry Moonbeam Brown is. What better way to get his transplanted immigrant population behind him than to give them a Devil to hate.

California gave Hillary most of her imaginary popular vote advantage in a highly suspect election. They flouted election laws by allowing millions of illegals to vote and now they're threatening to withhold their federal taxes, yet another act of defiance that will create a massive legal problem for the president.

BTW, many criminals in US history skated the law only to get thrown in prison for income tax evasion. I sincerely hope Jerry Brown tries this.

If Trump does try to take away California’s federal dollars, he faces a rough time

D'OH

California is among the least dependent States, for federal dollars.

Then this threat that Trump want to purpose against sanctuary cities, should not phase them or even matter to involve any media hype to the issue.

not much; except for right wing national socialist whining.

lol - the only whining that exists is stemming from those like Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, who are surprisingly unaware our government has a Federal Law that addresses immigration enforcement over the states.

 

[mudwhistle]

What better way to create a permanent underclass and at the same time create absolute dependency of the voters to government than pick a fight with the federal government.

In 3rd world banana republic dictators need a desperate and dependent country that is literally on the edge of starvation to stay in power. Perhaps this is why Democrats openly admire the Fidel Castros and similar totalitarian leaders. This is a product of liberal mindset based in communist upbringing. It seems that the only folks that admire communism the most never had to live under it.

California is daring Trump to withhold federal funds, or at least Governor Jerry Moonbeam Brown is. What better way to get his transplanted immigrant population behind him than to give them a Devil to hate.

California gave Hillary most of her imaginary popular vote advantage in a highly suspect election. They flouted election laws by allowing millions of illegals to vote and now they're threatening to withhold their federal taxes, yet another act of defiance that will create a massive legal problem for the president.

BTW, many criminals in US history skated the law only to get thrown in prison for income tax evasion. I sincerely hope Jerry Brown tries this.

If Trump does try to take away California’s federal dollars, he faces a rough time

D'OH

California is among the least dependent States, for federal dollars.

Then this threat that Trump want to purpose against sanctuary cities, should not phase them or even matter to involve any media hype to the issue.

not much; except for right wing national socialist whining.

lol - the only whining that exists is stemming from those like Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, who are surprisingly unaware our government has a Federal Law that addresses immigration enforcement over the states.

The leader of the Senate in California said half of his family is illegal.
Textbook case of harboring fugitives.

 

[Juan de Fuca]

What better way to create a permanent underclass and at the same time create absolute dependency of the voters to government than pick a fight with the federal government.

In 3rd world banana republic dictators need a desperate and dependent country that is literally on the edge of starvation to stay in power. Perhaps this is why Democrats openly admire the Fidel Castros and similar totalitarian leaders. This is a product of liberal mindset based in communist upbringing. It seems that the only folks that admire communism the most never had to live under it.

California is daring Trump to withhold federal funds, or at least Governor Jerry Moonbeam Brown is. What better way to get his transplanted immigrant population behind him than to give them a Devil to hate.

California gave Hillary most of her imaginary popular vote advantage in a highly suspect election. They flouted election laws by allowing millions of illegals to vote and now they're threatening to withhold their federal taxes, yet another act of defiance that will create a massive legal problem for the president.

BTW, many criminals in US history skated the law only to get thrown in prison for income tax evasion. I sincerely hope Jerry Brown tries this.

If Trump does try to take away California’s federal dollars, he faces a rough time

D'OH

California is among the least dependent States, for federal dollars.

Then this threat that Trump want to purpose against sanctuary cities, should not phase them or even matter to involve any media hype to the issue.

not much; except for right wing national socialist whining.

lol - the only whining that exists is stemming from those like Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, who are surprisingly unaware our government has a Federal Law that addresses immigration enforcement over the states.

Sounds to me that the one who doesn't understand federal law is you.

 

[danielpalos]

What better way to create a permanent underclass and at the same time create absolute dependency of the voters to government than pick a fight with the federal government.

In 3rd world banana republic dictators need a desperate and dependent country that is literally on the edge of starvation to stay in power. Perhaps this is why Democrats openly admire the Fidel Castros and similar totalitarian leaders. This is a product of liberal mindset based in communist upbringing. It seems that the only folks that admire communism the most never had to live under it.

California is daring Trump to withhold federal funds, or at least Governor Jerry Moonbeam Brown is. What better way to get his transplanted immigrant population behind him than to give them a Devil to hate.

California gave Hillary most of her imaginary popular vote advantage in a highly suspect election. They flouted election laws by allowing millions of illegals to vote and now they're threatening to withhold their federal taxes, yet another act of defiance that will create a massive legal problem for the president.

BTW, many criminals in US history skated the law only to get thrown in prison for income tax evasion. I sincerely hope Jerry Brown tries this.

If Trump does try to take away California’s federal dollars, he faces a rough time

D'OH

California is among the least dependent States, for federal dollars.

Then this threat that Trump want to purpose against sanctuary cities, should not phase them or even matter to involve any media hype to the issue.

not much; except for right wing national socialist whining.

lol - the only whining that exists is stemming from those like Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, who are surprisingly unaware our government has a Federal Law that addresses immigration enforcement over the states.

Only in right wing, national socialist fantasy; do we in the US, have a unitary form of general government. Our Founding Fathers, had solutions, not excuses.

 

[jc456]

D'OH

California is among the least dependent States, for federal dollars.

Then this threat that Trump want to purpose against sanctuary cities, should not phase them or even matter to involve any media hype to the issue.

not much; except for right wing national socialist whining.

lol - the only whining that exists is stemming from those like Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, who are surprisingly unaware our government has a Federal Law that addresses immigration enforcement over the states.

Only in right wing, national socialist fantasy; do we in the US, have a unitary form of general government. Our Founding Fathers, had solutions, not excuses.

What is that?

 

[danielpalos]

California is among the least dependent States, for federal dollars.

Then this threat that Trump want to purpose against sanctuary cities, should not phase them or even matter to involve any media hype to the issue.

not much; except for right wing national socialist whining.

lol - the only whining that exists is stemming from those like Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, who are surprisingly unaware our government has a Federal Law that addresses immigration enforcement over the states.

Only in right wing, national socialist fantasy; do we in the US, have a unitary form of general government. Our Founding Fathers, had solutions, not excuses.

What is that?

the whole and entire, right wing?

 

[jc456]

All the leftists can push out their chests all they want. California will comply with the law, and any area that doesn't, their politicians will be arrested and prosecuted in federal court, AFTER they are removed from office.

LOL, you have quite an imagination.

Nope, I am a realist. You are in fantasyland my incompetent friend. Not only is California going to comply, when push comes to shove if their politicians put up to much smoke, California LEGAL residents will recall 1/2 of them if it is allowed. What do you actually think.........only leftists know how to play dirty when in control of the federal government, lolol! If that is what you think, then you are a fool; a fool who will soon be sorely disappointed, hehehehehehehe!

You have no idea what you're talking about. California will not get shoved around and the Dump administration isn't going to do anything to jeopardize the economy of the state that the rest of the country depends upon. We have our exit on the next ballot it would be a hell of a note if Trump swung that election by his colossal stupidity.

We are laughing at you, and your phony threat of your bumbling vote means nothing. You will comply. Go sell your phony narrative elsewhere, because everyone but you knows it, lolololol!

You obviously aren't from the west coast because you talk like an idiot who thinks he knows something.

You must be from the west coast and think we care!

 

[jc456]

Then this threat that Trump want to purpose against sanctuary cities, should not phase them or even matter to involve any media hype to the issue.

not much; except for right wing national socialist whining.

lol - the only whining that exists is stemming from those like Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, who are surprisingly unaware our government has a Federal Law that addresses immigration enforcement over the states.

Only in right wing, national socialist fantasy; do we in the US, have a unitary form of general government. Our Founding Fathers, had solutions, not excuses.

What is that?

the whole and entire, right wing?

So you believe we aren't allowed to exist? Dude too funny

 

[danielpalos]

not much; except for right wing national socialist whining.

lol - the only whining that exists is stemming from those like Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, who are surprisingly unaware our government has a Federal Law that addresses immigration enforcement over the states.

Only in right wing, national socialist fantasy; do we in the US, have a unitary form of general government. Our Founding Fathers, had solutions, not excuses.

What is that?

the whole and entire, right wing?

So you believe we aren't allowed to exist? Dude too funny

all i claim is, y'all are just clueless and Causeless.

 

[jc456]

lol - the only whining that exists is stemming from those like Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, who are surprisingly unaware our government has a Federal Law that addresses immigration enforcement over the states.

Only in right wing, national socialist fantasy; do we in the US, have a unitary form of general government. Our Founding Fathers, had solutions, not excuses.

What is that?

the whole and entire, right wing?

So you believe we aren't allowed to exist? Dude too funny

all i claim is, y'all are just clueless and Causeless.

We aren't a cult like you and Libturds

 

[danielpalos]

Only in right wing, national socialist fantasy; do we in the US, have a unitary form of general government. Our Founding Fathers, had solutions, not excuses.

What is that?

the whole and entire, right wing?

So you believe we aren't allowed to exist? Dude too funny

all i claim is, y'all are just clueless and Causeless.

We aren't a cult like you and Libturds

coincidence or conspiracy?

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

D'OH

California is among the least dependent States, for federal dollars.

Then this threat that Trump want to purpose against sanctuary cities, should not phase them or even matter to involve any media hype to the issue.

not much; except for right wing national socialist whining.

lol - the only whining that exists is stemming from those like Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, who are surprisingly unaware our government has a Federal Law that addresses immigration enforcement over the states.

Sounds to me that the one who doesn't understand federal law is you.

Well I'm sure you can specify where in the Federal Immigration Law it precisely states authority to sanctuary cities to withhold the knowledge of illegals from ICE. Let's just see who knows more about the federal immigration law.

 

[jc456]

What is that?

the whole and entire, right wing?

So you believe we aren't allowed to exist? Dude too funny

all i claim is, y'all are just clueless and Causeless.

We aren't a cult like you and Libturds

coincidence or conspiracy?

A cult never questions their leaders. Cons hold our leaders accountable. It would be refreshing to have a libturd make an honest evaluation of it's leadership. Like Schumer crying. What kind of punk ass stunt was that. All it showed self thinking americans is that he is a boob. Is that really what you want from your leadershipt? if so, then you are part of the cult that is libturdness.

 

[Juan de Fuca]

California is among the least dependent States, for federal dollars.

Then this threat that Trump want to purpose against sanctuary cities, should not phase them or even matter to involve any media hype to the issue.

not much; except for right wing national socialist whining.

lol - the only whining that exists is stemming from those like Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, who are surprisingly unaware our government has a Federal Law that addresses immigration enforcement over the states.

Sounds to me that the one who doesn't understand federal law is you.

Well I'm sure you can specify where in the Federal Immigration Law it precisely states authority to sanctuary cities to withhold the knowledge of illegals from ICE. Let's just see who knows more about the federal immigration law.

There has been a lot of resistance to iiraira and the federal courts have not been helpful to the federal government to this point. Here are some rulings to give you an idea of how the courts view the act https://www.ilrc.org/sites/default/files/resources/detainers_legal_update_october_2016.pdf
That doesn't mean the attitude might change under Trump but there is resistance elsewhere, just today, there was an article in the Central Valley of California discussing the problem with removing thousands of workers and how it would affect the nations supply of fruits and vegetables. I really don't think this is going to move the way you think it will and the harsh economic reality is going to slap Congress upside the head.

 

[danielpalos]

California is among the least dependent States, for federal dollars.

Then this threat that Trump want to purpose against sanctuary cities, should not phase them or even matter to involve any media hype to the issue.

not much; except for right wing national socialist whining.

lol - the only whining that exists is stemming from those like Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, who are surprisingly unaware our government has a Federal Law that addresses immigration enforcement over the states.

Sounds to me that the one who doesn't understand federal law is you.

Well I'm sure you can specify where in the Federal Immigration Law it precisely states authority to sanctuary cities to withhold the knowledge of illegals from ICE. Let's just see who knows more about the federal immigration law.

that would be a "shackle of big government".

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Then this threat that Trump want to purpose against sanctuary cities, should not phase them or even matter to involve any media hype to the issue.

not much; except for right wing national socialist whining.

lol - the only whining that exists is stemming from those like Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, who are surprisingly unaware our government has a Federal Law that addresses immigration enforcement over the states.

Sounds to me that the one who doesn't understand federal law is you.

Well I'm sure you can specify where in the Federal Immigration Law it precisely states authority to sanctuary cities to withhold the knowledge of illegals from ICE. Let's just see who knows more about the federal immigration law.

There has been a lot of resistance to iiraira and the federal courts have not been helpful to the federal government to this point. Here are some rulings to give you an idea of how the courts view the act https://www.ilrc.org/sites/default/files/resources/detainers_legal_update_october_2016.pdf
That doesn't mean the attitude might change under Trump but there is resistance elsewhere, just today, there was an article in the Central Valley of California discussing the problem with removing thousands of workers and how it would affect the nations supply of fruits and vegetables. I really don't think this is going to move the way you think it will and the harsh economic reality is going to slap Congress upside the head.

I'm sure the United States can work out a program at our border check points from Mexico, where agents can assist those seeking work visas for those seeking a better life in America. Sanctuary Cities which hide known illegals is not the answer, and supporting cheaper labor (these low paying jobs no one wants) seems to be the new party mandate excuse that Democrats are seeking to defend.

Putting that aside, there is a problem we now have with drug lords, and violence in Mexico that can spill across into this country which needs to be addressed to protect our citizens. There is also the vulnerability a "broken border" brings with inviting terrorist sympathizers and extremists looking to exploit an opportunity to get in, while we do have an enhanced airport security, we simply can't ignore other ways they can exploit a breach to our national security. These are two issues, outside of simply keeping track of those illegals who break our laws, we can't ignore. The democrats (through past administrations) have provided no solution to the border outside of criticism to republicans for bringing up the issue, which honestly places them as being no different than the complaints given to republicans in a repeal with no replacement of health care. Facts are facts.

 

[Juan de Fuca]

not much; except for right wing national socialist whining.

lol - the only whining that exists is stemming from those like Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, who are surprisingly unaware our government has a Federal Law that addresses immigration enforcement over the states.

Sounds to me that the one who doesn't understand federal law is you.

Well I'm sure you can specify where in the Federal Immigration Law it precisely states authority to sanctuary cities to withhold the knowledge of illegals from ICE. Let's just see who knows more about the federal immigration law.

There has been a lot of resistance to iiraira and the federal courts have not been helpful to the federal government to this point. Here are some rulings to give you an idea of how the courts view the act https://www.ilrc.org/sites/default/files/resources/detainers_legal_update_october_2016.pdf
That doesn't mean the attitude might change under Trump but there is resistance elsewhere, just today, there was an article in the Central Valley of California discussing the problem with removing thousands of workers and how it would affect the nations supply of fruits and vegetables. I really don't think this is going to move the way you think it will and the harsh economic reality is going to slap Congress upside the head.

I'm sure the United States can work out a program at our border check points from Mexico, where agents can assist those seeking work visas for those seeking a better life in America. Sanctuary Cities which hide known illegals is not the answer, and supporting cheaper labor (these low paying jobs no one wants) seems to be the new party mandate excuse that Democrats are seeking to defend.

Putting that aside, there is a problem we now have with drug lords, and violence in Mexico that can spill across into this country which needs to be addressed to protect our citizens. There is also the vulnerability a "broken border" brings with inviting terrorist sympathizers and extremists looking to exploit an opportunity to get in, while we do have an enhanced airport security, we simply can't ignore other ways they can exploit a breach to our national security. These are two issues, outside of simply keeping track of those illegals who break our laws, we can't ignore. The democrats (through past administrations) have provided no solution to the border outside of criticism to republicans for bringing up the issue, which honestly places them as being no different than the complaints given to republicans in a repeal with no replacement of health care. Facts are facts.

All of these solutions are coming up because no one wanted to discuss it before. The Chamber of Commerce is the real enemy here making sure we relax the rules so companies have their labor. I agree with you that there are many things we can do to solve the immigration problem but a wall is not the answer especially since most terror border violations happen in Canada. I'll also take exception to your highlighted text. The last time we gave away American citizenship for free was when Republicans were in power and if that was your idea of a "solution" you should find other interests.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

lol - the only whining that exists is stemming from those like Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, who are surprisingly unaware our government has a Federal Law that addresses immigration enforcement over the states.

Sounds to me that the one who doesn't understand federal law is you.

Well I'm sure you can specify where in the Federal Immigration Law it precisely states authority to sanctuary cities to withhold the knowledge of illegals from ICE. Let's just see who knows more about the federal immigration law.

There has been a lot of resistance to iiraira and the federal courts have not been helpful to the federal government to this point. Here are some rulings to give you an idea of how the courts view the act https://www.ilrc.org/sites/default/files/resources/detainers_legal_update_october_2016.pdf
That doesn't mean the attitude might change under Trump but there is resistance elsewhere, just today, there was an article in the Central Valley of California discussing the problem with removing thousands of workers and how it would affect the nations supply of fruits and vegetables. I really don't think this is going to move the way you think it will and the harsh economic reality is going to slap Congress upside the head.

I'm sure the United States can work out a program at our border check points from Mexico, where agents can assist those seeking work visas for those seeking a better life in America. Sanctuary Cities which hide known illegals is not the answer, and supporting cheaper labor (these low paying jobs no one wants) seems to be the new party mandate excuse that Democrats are seeking to defend.

Putting that aside, there is a problem we now have with drug lords, and violence in Mexico that can spill across into this country which needs to be addressed to protect our citizens. There is also the vulnerability a "broken border" brings with inviting terrorist sympathizers and extremists looking to exploit an opportunity to get in, while we do have an enhanced airport security, we simply can't ignore other ways they can exploit a breach to our national security. These are two issues, outside of simply keeping track of those illegals who break our laws, we can't ignore. The democrats (through past administrations) have provided no solution to the border outside of criticism to republicans for bringing up the issue, which honestly places them as being no different than the complaints given to republicans in a repeal with no replacement of health care. Facts are facts.

All of these solutions are coming up because no one wanted to discuss it before. The Chamber of Commerce is the real enemy here making sure we relax the rules so companies have their labor. I agree with you that there are many things we can do to solve the immigration problem but a wall is not the answer especially since most terror border violations happen in Canada. I'll also take exception to your highlighted text. The last time we gave away American citizenship for free was when Republicans were in power and if that was your idea of a "solution" you should find other interests.

President Ronald Reagan was the last president to have a serious message and concern for the immigration problem in our southern border. However, he tried to sell the American people on amnesty first, before addressing border security and enforcement ... a big mistake. This left a sour taste to many Republican voters, and they have been resistant to anything close to amnesty ever since. Democrats, on the other hand, have been bringing up amnesty ever since (or they use other terms that call it a special exception "fast track") which neglects other immigrants overseas who wait years to become citizens legally. Democrats also DO criticize those republicans who bring up the issue of border enforcement with no plan of their own to tackle the flow of illegals who consistently break the law, How exactly does this make them different than Republicans, who hate and criticize the current ACA system while wanting to repeal it with no alternate plan given? Democrats have, instead of enforcement, gone the other way encouraging more illegals through this defense of Sanctuary Cities and breaking Federal Law.

With respect to Canada, there are no drug cartels spilling crime and violence north of the border into this country. They also don't have a poor economy, with illegals sneaking over to make a better life for themselves. The only issue Canada has, concerns those seeking a health care alternative to waiting months for certain medical procedures and treatment to be available to them. I just don't see the evidence where Canada has a bigger illegal border problem than Mexico.