Callous Conservatives, Time to wake up!

[bripat9643]

Consider Obamacare, in lock-step the members and leadership seek to repeal it, but no comprehensive replacement has ever been put forward.

Think again.

Seriously? The Republicans Have No Health Plan?

JUST THINK


Republicans Don't Have A Plan Yet To Replace Obamacare Subsidies


As the Supreme Court edges closer to issuing an opinion that could deal a blow to the federal health exchange operating in more than 30 states, Democrats have sounded a warning to their colleagues on the other side: Be careful what you wish for.

If GOP lawmakers get the court decision they've been hoping for, it will be up to the Republican-controlled Congress to figure a way out of the mess. After more than 50 votes in the House to repeal either all or parts of the Affordable Care Act, Republicans have yet to unveil a proposal on how to replace the health care law. And they also haven't united around a stopgap plan that would bridge an adverse ruling by the court with the health care policies of the next president.

Republicans in both chambers have been working for months on proposals, but, so far, House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell — and their respective caucuses — haven't coalesced around a single path forward for the 6.4 million people, who would lose their subsidies should the court rule against the Obama administration in King v. Burwell.


Republicans Don't Have A Plan Yet To Replace Obamacare Subsidies





LOL

Why would anyone want to replace it?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Consider Obamacare, in lock-step the members and leadership seek to repeal it, but no comprehensive replacement has ever been put forward.

Think again.

Seriously? The Republicans Have No Health Plan?

Corporate healthcare that treats people like shit.

That's it? "Corporate healthcare that treats people like shit?"

Well then. I'm sure that small business owner who offers insurance is a CEO of a corporation in disguise. Oh, how lowly you think of small business my friend!

 

[westwall]

Sure thing silly little twerp.

Grow up and learn something some time instead of spewing your half assed propaganda crap.

So you'll make a posit AND not be able to back it up AND can't refute MY links. Thanks Bubba

The idea that recent mass shooters are mostly registered Democrats is a myth

The idea that recent mass shooters are mostly registered Democrats is a myth

I never said they were registered Democrats dumbshit. I said they were PROGRESSIVES! Huuuuge dif. I'm a registered Democrat. I am not, and will never be, a fucking progressive.

Either way, you can't back it up, weird Bubba? lol

Sure I can, you won't read it though, so why waste my time.

YOOHOO, STILL WAITING BUBS, only have tonight though? Come on let me see what you got? lol

C'mon silly boy. You claimed you would destroy every one. Well, I gave you ONE. Put up or shut up, twerp.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Would you rather have the minimum wage that generates a large middle class or would you rather have what south Asia's having??? With a large poor class and a small class of super rich. Or maybe I'll go back in history pre-1900 America or Europe.

You loserterian moroons would have 90% of this country eatting mud cakes.

Well, you can have those low paying jobs here or have them in another country. Which one is better for Americans?

If you have a low paying job, in most cases, you made that decision. Just as you made that decision, you can also decide to learn a trade or take work that has a future. It's all up to the individual.

Government nor private industry is responsible for making sure that everybody makes enough money no matter what they decide to do in life. There are all kinds of jobs out there, but no American wants to take them. Why? Because it's much more convenient living on the dole.

The problem with that is there are no advancements on the dole. If you take a low paying job in a large enough company, you can move up if you are motivated and show a little interest in your job.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Unions and taxation. That's why all our jobs left the country. Of course it's been going on for many years, but conservatives warned how businesses would move for those reasons.

We were correct on bussing as well. If you force people to send their children across town, the people who live in that town that have money will leave, and those who are left will be the people with little or no money. That's exactly what happened. In cities like mine, we are still feeling the effects of that today.

If you pay people not to work, don't be surprised when they don't. Today we have 94 million people of working age not working in this country, and that number may even rise. The worst it's been in the last 30 plus years.

Pubic Education. We spend the most per capita on our children for education, and only fall in the middle when it comes to accomplishments. In fact some of our businesses hire foreigners because they have the education we don't provide our children. Because our union controlled public education is not up to standards, these kids can't get into upper-scale colleges because they haven't learned enough.

UNIONS AND TAXATION? THAT'S CALLED POLICY? SERIOUSLY?

Yes Gop's war on unions and defunding Gov't HURT US , but that isn't a policy, is it Bubba?

EVERYTHING else is just MORE of a mishmash of right wing garbage without going beyond the bumper sticker "thinking": the right usually does!

The liberal Democrat politicians backing unions is policy. They gave unions way too much strength and allowed them to call the shots. They priced us right out of the world market and for the last several years, there was no way to compete with them.

Now liberal politicians will once again make strides to buy votes by pricing us further from competition with minimum wage increases.

Yes, let's not let "min wage increases" price US out of the competition *shaking head*

60% of Min wage work for a comp with 500+ employees, let's make sure they pay peanuts TO US right Bubba, the US economy ONLY is 2/3rd driven by the US spending

GAWD YOU MORON

No, morons are those who want companies to pay generous wages to people that do monkey jobs. That's exactly what unions did. That's why with the exception of government, unions are a thing of the past.

Furthermore is the fact that minimum wage workers are something like 2% of our workforce. Increasing their wages won't help them all that much, but increasing their wages WILL force increases across the board once again, distancing ourselves from the already over competitive world market.

Weird, so you agree, unions HAVE been in decline for 40+ years, BUT it was unions that shipped jobs off shore, NOT tax policy that rewarded offshoring US jobs and CONservatives "free trade"

Actually min wage is for about 4% of US but of course, they shouldn't have an increase after 7 years since Corps employ 60%+ of them AND have record corp profits, pay the lowest effective tax rates in 40 years and first time EVER have costs below 50% of costs?


Over competitive? OH RIGHT, UNLESS THE US WORKS FOR $3 AN HOUR, WE CAN'T "COMPETE"?


HOW ABOUT SINCE THE US HAS THE WORLD LARGEST ECONOMY, WE USE GOOD GOV'T POLICY TO HELP US VERSUS MULTINATIONALS AND THE TOP 1/10TH OF 1%? Just a fukkn though you dumnass!

Multinational companies don't want to move anything over here. If you move any money to the US, it gets taxed. It was an issue Romney had when he ran for President. He wanted to eliminate the tax for companies that do bring money here.

You don't have to work for $3.00 an hour to compete. Remember that our wages here are high enough whereas it also offsets shipping and handling from goods overseas not to mention all the paperwork. And yes, then we can discuss taxes and regulation.

Unions were not the exclusive reason for jobs leaving, but a big factor. I know because over here, we lost a lot of customers that closed shop and moved out of state or out of the country to avoid those costs. As for tax breaks for shipping jobs overseas, we've been through this already. There are no tax breaks for companies moving overseas, only tax write-offs for the expense it takes to move a company overseas which is not all that much. I posted the Fact Check article for you.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Not to the unthinking, apparently.

I see you live in San Francisco, where constituents shit in the street. Your attitude is no longer a mystery.

Your ignorance is amazing, or maybe you are like most of your kind. A liar.

Which is why you offer such carefully-wrought, erudite refutations.

Post an argument which outlines intended consequences, add enough detail and I'll offer a rebuttal. No one on the right has, ever, IMO. Not even the members of Congress whose side of the aisle you support.

Consider Obamacare, in lock-step the members and leadership seek to repeal it, but no comprehensive replacement has ever been put forward.

A rational response would be for the Congress, now under the control of the Republicans, to rewrite the PPACA, keeping what works and fixing what doesn't.

The reason they won't, is because the right only has wedge issues to put forth. Without God, guns, gays, Obamacare, abortion, Solyndra, Benghazi, Clinton's e-mails and Obama's birth place they would all be struck dumber.

No matter what the Republicans offered, DumBama would reject it unless it was the very exact same thing. Even something as meager as removing the employee and individual mandate was rejected.

DumBama never wanted to work with the Republicans on anything. He said so himself several times: Republicans can come along for the ride, but they have to sit in the back seat! I have a pen and I have a cell phone. This has been (and still is) his attitude towards working with Republicans.

Obama COMPROMISED with tax cuts, instead of (top 2%) $200,000 and $250,000 it was $400,000,000 and $450,000 (top .08%)

OBAMA ACA:

The bill approved by Sen. Christopher Dodd’s Health, Education, Labor and Pensions committee, for instance, included 161 amendments authored by Republicans. Only 49 Republican amendments were rejected out of 210 considered. Yet the bill got zero Republican votes when it passed out of the committee.

You’ll all remember the Senate Finance Committee process, chaired by Montana Sen. Max Baucus. Baucus and President Obama empowered a bipartisan “Gang of Six” from the committee, three Democrats and three Republicans, and they spent the summer locked in negotiations that, again, never produced one Republican vote for the bill in committee. The Finance Committee ultimately scuttled the public option in its version of the bill, looking for GOP (and conservative Democratic) support.

The Washington Post’s Ezra Klein has noted that the final Democratic proposals have contained multiple GOP planks.


Fact-checking the GOP on healthcare reform

Senate Dems adopted 161 amendments and key GOP planks while soft-pedaling the public option. That's not compromise?



OBAMA PUTTING 40% TAX CUTS IN THE STIMULUS TO TRY AND GET 80% GOP SUPPORT WAS NOT A CONCESSION? LOL

LYING POS CONS

And what were those tax cuts? They were Social Security tax cuts; a program that's been long headed for a brick wall. In fact, SS disability will be completely broke as of next year unless we somehow find money to add more to it.

Compromise is meeting half-way. The Republicans didn't want ANY tax increase and DumBama wanted it set at $200,000 for a single person. He still got his tax increase and Republicans didn't get much of anything.

Republicans have had to give, give and give just to keep the government from shutting down. DumBama keeps wanting to spend more and the Republicans keep wanting to spend less.

 

[Rotagilla]

Is this a precursor of things to come?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/13/world/europe/labour-party-election-jeremy-corbyn.html?_r=0


Are The People ready to recoil from the consequences of Reaganism as the Brits have of Thatcherism?

Are the people ready to take back democracy from the plutocrats?

Is it possible that all the wealth of Brothers Koch and the SuperPacs have met their match, as the antipathy of The People seeing great wealth continue to flow to the few at the expense of the many continues to grow?

Is Sen. Sanders our Jeremy Corbyn?

It's past time for a correction, American voters have in the past rejected extremism, and today's Republican Party is not today, and not since 1981, a party of the people, by the people and for the people.

Once single issue voters understand the GOP is all hat and no cattle, as the have given the cattle to the wealthy elite, they will realize the wedge issues have never been fixed by the GOP.

In fact the GOP and it's benefactors - the Power Elite - understand that to solve issues like immigration, health care, the meme that they will take away your guns, make abortion harder SSM and will destroy marriage between a man and a women will take away their talking points.

The changes necessary to take back America from the power held by the First and Second Estates will be a monumental task, given the money which the clergy and nobility - our power elites - will put into keeping the Congress under the leadership they own.

agitprop

 

[Rotagilla]

It's time to reject the ignorance and hate common to most on the right; the reactionaryism and fear of change, diversity, and expressions of individual liberty.

It's also time to reject failed conservative fiscal dogma, to instead pursue a pragmatic course predicated on what works, not what conforms to that failed conservative economic dogma.

marxist doubletalk

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

I will vote to prevent you people from airing out the pockets of the creative and productive in order to purchase your voting bloc of those who produce nothing but urine, feces, crime and terrorism.

Creative? You mean like gays and scientists, liberals and the educated?

Billy would abolish science institution that are the best in the world, stop regulating businesses and let air pollution pile up in our atmosphere...The dumb shit would fire millions of scientist, road construction workers and teachers because oh'shiittt, I hate government!

Nah, Billy would not. Billy quite likes science, and had top grades in the subject.

Billy would, however, declare the Democratic Party a terrorist organization, and put an end to it in the United States.

 

[Dad2three]

Consider Obamacare, in lock-step the members and leadership seek to repeal it, but no comprehensive replacement has ever been put forward.

Think again.

Seriously? The Republicans Have No Health Plan?

JUST THINK


Republicans Don't Have A Plan Yet To Replace Obamacare Subsidies


As the Supreme Court edges closer to issuing an opinion that could deal a blow to the federal health exchange operating in more than 30 states, Democrats have sounded a warning to their colleagues on the other side: Be careful what you wish for.

If GOP lawmakers get the court decision they've been hoping for, it will be up to the Republican-controlled Congress to figure a way out of the mess. After more than 50 votes in the House to repeal either all or parts of the Affordable Care Act, Republicans have yet to unveil a proposal on how to replace the health care law. And they also haven't united around a stopgap plan that would bridge an adverse ruling by the court with the health care policies of the next president.

Republicans in both chambers have been working for months on proposals, but, so far, House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell — and their respective caucuses — haven't coalesced around a single path forward for the 6.4 million people, who would lose their subsidies should the court rule against the Obama administration in King v. Burwell.


Republicans Don't Have A Plan Yet To Replace Obamacare Subsidies





LOL

Why would anyone want to replace it?

Repeal AND REPLACE, maybe you heard about that Bubba?

 

[Dad2three]

So you'll make a posit AND not be able to back it up AND can't refute MY links. Thanks Bubba

The idea that recent mass shooters are mostly registered Democrats is a myth

The idea that recent mass shooters are mostly registered Democrats is a myth

I never said they were registered Democrats dumbshit. I said they were PROGRESSIVES! Huuuuge dif. I'm a registered Democrat. I am not, and will never be, a fucking progressive.

Either way, you can't back it up, weird Bubba? lol

Sure I can, you won't read it though, so why waste my time.

YOOHOO, STILL WAITING BUBS, only have tonight though? Come on let me see what you got? lol

C'mon silly boy. You claimed you would destroy every one. Well, I gave you ONE. Put up or shut up, twerp.

AND I DESTROYED IT DUMMY. Go look at it, lol

 

[Dad2three]

UNIONS AND TAXATION? THAT'S CALLED POLICY? SERIOUSLY?

Yes Gop's war on unions and defunding Gov't HURT US , but that isn't a policy, is it Bubba?

EVERYTHING else is just MORE of a mishmash of right wing garbage without going beyond the bumper sticker "thinking": the right usually does!

The liberal Democrat politicians backing unions is policy. They gave unions way too much strength and allowed them to call the shots. They priced us right out of the world market and for the last several years, there was no way to compete with them.

Now liberal politicians will once again make strides to buy votes by pricing us further from competition with minimum wage increases.

Yes, let's not let "min wage increases" price US out of the competition *shaking head*

60% of Min wage work for a comp with 500+ employees, let's make sure they pay peanuts TO US right Bubba, the US economy ONLY is 2/3rd driven by the US spending

GAWD YOU MORON

No, morons are those who want companies to pay generous wages to people that do monkey jobs. That's exactly what unions did. That's why with the exception of government, unions are a thing of the past.

Furthermore is the fact that minimum wage workers are something like 2% of our workforce. Increasing their wages won't help them all that much, but increasing their wages WILL force increases across the board once again, distancing ourselves from the already over competitive world market.

Weird, so you agree, unions HAVE been in decline for 40+ years, BUT it was unions that shipped jobs off shore, NOT tax policy that rewarded offshoring US jobs and CONservatives "free trade"

Actually min wage is for about 4% of US but of course, they shouldn't have an increase after 7 years since Corps employ 60%+ of them AND have record corp profits, pay the lowest effective tax rates in 40 years and first time EVER have costs below 50% of costs?


Over competitive? OH RIGHT, UNLESS THE US WORKS FOR $3 AN HOUR, WE CAN'T "COMPETE"?


HOW ABOUT SINCE THE US HAS THE WORLD LARGEST ECONOMY, WE USE GOOD GOV'T POLICY TO HELP US VERSUS MULTINATIONALS AND THE TOP 1/10TH OF 1%? Just a fukkn though you dumnass!

Multinational companies don't want to move anything over here. If you move any money to the US, it gets taxed. It was an issue Romney had when he ran for President. He wanted to eliminate the tax for companies that do bring money here.

You don't have to work for $3.00 an hour to compete. Remember that our wages here are high enough whereas it also offsets shipping and handling from goods overseas not to mention all the paperwork. And yes, then we can discuss taxes and regulation.

Unions were not the exclusive reason for jobs leaving, but a big factor. I know because over here, we lost a lot of customers that closed shop and moved out of state or out of the country to avoid those costs. As for tax breaks for shipping jobs overseas, we've been through this already. There are no tax breaks for companies moving overseas, only tax write-offs for the expense it takes to move a company overseas which is not all that much. I posted the Fact Check article for you.

ANOTHER mish mash of right wing BS based on idiotic talking points and BS

 

[Dad2three]

Your ignorance is amazing, or maybe you are like most of your kind. A liar.

Which is why you offer such carefully-wrought, erudite refutations.

Post an argument which outlines intended consequences, add enough detail and I'll offer a rebuttal. No one on the right has, ever, IMO. Not even the members of Congress whose side of the aisle you support.

Consider Obamacare, in lock-step the members and leadership seek to repeal it, but no comprehensive replacement has ever been put forward.

A rational response would be for the Congress, now under the control of the Republicans, to rewrite the PPACA, keeping what works and fixing what doesn't.

The reason they won't, is because the right only has wedge issues to put forth. Without God, guns, gays, Obamacare, abortion, Solyndra, Benghazi, Clinton's e-mails and Obama's birth place they would all be struck dumber.

No matter what the Republicans offered, DumBama would reject it unless it was the very exact same thing. Even something as meager as removing the employee and individual mandate was rejected.

DumBama never wanted to work with the Republicans on anything. He said so himself several times: Republicans can come along for the ride, but they have to sit in the back seat! I have a pen and I have a cell phone. This has been (and still is) his attitude towards working with Republicans.

Obama COMPROMISED with tax cuts, instead of (top 2%) $200,000 and $250,000 it was $400,000,000 and $450,000 (top .08%)

OBAMA ACA:

The bill approved by Sen. Christopher Dodd’s Health, Education, Labor and Pensions committee, for instance, included 161 amendments authored by Republicans. Only 49 Republican amendments were rejected out of 210 considered. Yet the bill got zero Republican votes when it passed out of the committee.

You’ll all remember the Senate Finance Committee process, chaired by Montana Sen. Max Baucus. Baucus and President Obama empowered a bipartisan “Gang of Six” from the committee, three Democrats and three Republicans, and they spent the summer locked in negotiations that, again, never produced one Republican vote for the bill in committee. The Finance Committee ultimately scuttled the public option in its version of the bill, looking for GOP (and conservative Democratic) support.

The Washington Post’s Ezra Klein has noted that the final Democratic proposals have contained multiple GOP planks.


Fact-checking the GOP on healthcare reform

Senate Dems adopted 161 amendments and key GOP planks while soft-pedaling the public option. That's not compromise?



OBAMA PUTTING 40% TAX CUTS IN THE STIMULUS TO TRY AND GET 80% GOP SUPPORT WAS NOT A CONCESSION? LOL

LYING POS CONS

And what were those tax cuts? They were Social Security tax cuts; a program that's been long headed for a brick wall. In fact, SS disability will be completely broke as of next year unless we somehow find money to add more to it.

Compromise is meeting half-way. The Republicans didn't want ANY tax increase and DumBama wanted it set at $200,000 for a single person. He still got his tax increase and Republicans didn't get much of anything.

Republicans have had to give, give and give just to keep the government from shutting down. DumBama keeps wanting to spend more and the Republicans keep wanting to spend less.

SS isn't going broke liar, it's funded 78% without doing a single damn thing, AND the GOP will EVENTUALLY get on board to "fix" it like we have continually done!


SS tax decreases weren't the ONLY tax cuts under Obama dummy

REPUBS WANT TO SPEND LESS? LMAOROG. History says BS AS RONNIE/DUBYA BLEW UP SPENDING AS THEY GUTTED REVENUES!

 

[The Rabbi]

It's time to reject the ignorance and hate common to most on the right; the reactionaryism and fear of change, diversity, and expressions of individual liberty.

It's also time to reject failed conservative fiscal dogma, to instead pursue a pragmatic course predicated on what works, not what conforms to that failed conservative economic dogma.

Yeah that's a fail post.

 

[Wry Catcher]

That's thought provoking?

Not to the unthinking, apparently.

I see you live in San Francisco, where constituents shit in the street. Your attitude is no longer a mystery.

Your ignorance is amazing, or maybe you are like most of your kind. A liar.

Which is why you offer such carefully-wrought, erudite refutations.

Post an argument which outlines intended consequences, add enough detail and I'll offer a rebuttal. No one on the right has, ever, IMO. Not even the members of Congress whose side of the aisle you support.

Consider Obamacare, in lock-step the members and leadership seek to repeal it, but no comprehensive replacement has ever been put forward.

A rational response would be for the Congress, now under the control of the Republicans, to rewrite the PPACA, keeping what works and fixing what doesn't.

The reason they won't, is because the right only has wedge issues to put forth. Without God, guns, gays, Obamacare, abortion, Solyndra, Benghazi, Clinton's e-mails and Obama's birth place they would all be struck dumber.

No matter what the Republicans offered, DumBama would reject it unless it was the very exact same thing. Even something as meager as removing the employee and individual mandate was rejected.

DumBama never wanted to work with the Republicans on anything. He said so himself several times: Republicans can come along for the ride, but they have to sit in the back seat! I have a pen and I have a cell phone. This has been (and still is) his attitude towards working with Republicans.

Please post at least one of his comments wherein he said he, "never wanted to work with the Republicans on anything".

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Which is why you offer such carefully-wrought, erudite refutations.

Post an argument which outlines intended consequences, add enough detail and I'll offer a rebuttal. No one on the right has, ever, IMO. Not even the members of Congress whose side of the aisle you support.

Consider Obamacare, in lock-step the members and leadership seek to repeal it, but no comprehensive replacement has ever been put forward.

A rational response would be for the Congress, now under the control of the Republicans, to rewrite the PPACA, keeping what works and fixing what doesn't.

The reason they won't, is because the right only has wedge issues to put forth. Without God, guns, gays, Obamacare, abortion, Solyndra, Benghazi, Clinton's e-mails and Obama's birth place they would all be struck dumber.

No matter what the Republicans offered, DumBama would reject it unless it was the very exact same thing. Even something as meager as removing the employee and individual mandate was rejected.

DumBama never wanted to work with the Republicans on anything. He said so himself several times: Republicans can come along for the ride, but they have to sit in the back seat! I have a pen and I have a cell phone. This has been (and still is) his attitude towards working with Republicans.

Obama COMPROMISED with tax cuts, instead of (top 2%) $200,000 and $250,000 it was $400,000,000 and $450,000 (top .08%)

OBAMA ACA:

The bill approved by Sen. Christopher Dodd’s Health, Education, Labor and Pensions committee, for instance, included 161 amendments authored by Republicans. Only 49 Republican amendments were rejected out of 210 considered. Yet the bill got zero Republican votes when it passed out of the committee.

You’ll all remember the Senate Finance Committee process, chaired by Montana Sen. Max Baucus. Baucus and President Obama empowered a bipartisan “Gang of Six” from the committee, three Democrats and three Republicans, and they spent the summer locked in negotiations that, again, never produced one Republican vote for the bill in committee. The Finance Committee ultimately scuttled the public option in its version of the bill, looking for GOP (and conservative Democratic) support.

The Washington Post’s Ezra Klein has noted that the final Democratic proposals have contained multiple GOP planks.


Fact-checking the GOP on healthcare reform

Senate Dems adopted 161 amendments and key GOP planks while soft-pedaling the public option. That's not compromise?



OBAMA PUTTING 40% TAX CUTS IN THE STIMULUS TO TRY AND GET 80% GOP SUPPORT WAS NOT A CONCESSION? LOL

LYING POS CONS

And what were those tax cuts? They were Social Security tax cuts; a program that's been long headed for a brick wall. In fact, SS disability will be completely broke as of next year unless we somehow find money to add more to it.

Compromise is meeting half-way. The Republicans didn't want ANY tax increase and DumBama wanted it set at $200,000 for a single person. He still got his tax increase and Republicans didn't get much of anything.

Republicans have had to give, give and give just to keep the government from shutting down. DumBama keeps wanting to spend more and the Republicans keep wanting to spend less.

SS isn't going broke liar, it's funded 78% without doing a single damn thing, AND the GOP will EVENTUALLY get on board to "fix" it like we have continually done!


SS tax decreases weren't the ONLY tax cuts under Obama dummy

REPUBS WANT TO SPEND LESS? LMAOROG. History says BS AS RONNIE/DUBYA BLEW UP SPENDING AS THEY GUTTED REVENUES!

If it's funded why did Obama threaten to withhold social security checks?

 

[Wry Catcher]

The changes necessary to take back America from the power held by the First and Second Estates will be a monumental task, given the money which the clergy and nobility - our power elites - will put into keeping the Congress under the leadership they own.

Why is this pointed at conservatives ?

It's both sides that have screwed us.

If you mean the D's screw Wall Street, and the R's screw Main St. I'd be inclined to agree. Wall Street deserves to be screwed, sadly WS owns the Congress thanks to the repeal of the bipartisan effort by FEC to control the money flooding into elections.

The 12 Biggest SuperPACs - Business Insider

Anyone who thinks this is about freedom of speech is a liar or a fool.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Lol, there nothing to discuss. Just more sohpistry and pining for govt to wipe everyone's ass.

The vote in GB is not sophistry, it's reality; the popularity of Sanders and Trump suggests the potential for a tsunami and a rejection of DC Insiders and the status quo.

Thus, there is more reason for, and we can expect more rhetoric from, the GOP and their anti-democratic conservative base to work harder to suppress the vote.

Of course the election was reality but his message is just that......sophistry with more govt control. You may be correct that this country has finally had it with the establishment. I know I'm sick of it.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

The changes necessary to take back America from the power held by the First and Second Estates will be a monumental task, given the money which the clergy and nobility - our power elites - will put into keeping the Congress under the leadership they own.

Why is this pointed at conservatives ?

It's both sides that have screwed us.

If you mean the D's screw Wall Street, and the R's screw Main St. I'd be inclined to agree. Wall Street deserves to be screwed, sadly WS owns the Congress thanks to the repeal of the bipartisan effort by FEC to control the money flooding into elections.

The 12 Biggest SuperPACs - Business Insider

Anyone who thinks this is about freedom of speech is a liar or a fool.

The Ds are just as deep in bed with wall street that Rs are.

 

[westwall]

I never said they were registered Democrats dumbshit. I said they were PROGRESSIVES! Huuuuge dif. I'm a registered Democrat. I am not, and will never be, a fucking progressive.

Either way, you can't back it up, weird Bubba? lol

Sure I can, you won't read it though, so why waste my time.

YOOHOO, STILL WAITING BUBS, only have tonight though? Come on let me see what you got? lol

C'mon silly boy. You claimed you would destroy every one. Well, I gave you ONE. Put up or shut up, twerp.

AND I DESTROYED IT DUMMY. Go look at it, lol

If you think ignoring it and fleeing from it is "destroying it" then you are an even bigger moron than even I thought possible.

HELLO MORON!