Can anyone tell if liberals are admitting obamacare is a failure?

[Syriusly]

Liberals have convinced themselves Obamacare's failure is all the GOP's fault.

but the people know who owns it.Have faith in the people. power to the people!!!

The majority of people who have coverage because of Obamacare are glad to have it.

Power to the people- don't take their insurance away just so millionaires can get tax breaks.

those people get if for free. i don't. they get it because of me. and then you wish to insult me for providing it. fk off.

Some get it for free. Some don't.

I don't wish to insult you- but if you are insulted because I pointed out that the Republicans want to take away health insurance from poor people so millionaires get a tax break- well then I am okay with that.

 

[g5000]

Seriously, can anyone tell?

Would you mind pointing us to the replacement for ObamaCare which Trump promised he would provide when his HHS secretary was confirmed last February?

Thank you.

Actually, would you mind pointing us to ANY ObamaCare replacement bill by ANY Republican?

Thank you.

 

[Timmy]

The lie is that Obamacare is a failure . More people are covered than ever before . People like the provisions .


Sure . Some states are having problems , but that's because of GOP sabatoge .

Oh yeah ? Then why are the aca approval ratings surging ? Why can't they repeal it??

 

[Timmy]

Liberals have convinced themselves Obamacare's failure is all the GOP's fault.

but the people know who owns it.Have faith in the people. power to the people!!!

The majority of people who have coverage because of Obamacare are glad to have it.

Power to the people- don't take their insurance away just so millionaires can get tax breaks.

those people get if for free. i don't. they get it because of me. and then you wish to insult me for providing it. fk off.

Some get it for free. Some don't.

I don't wish to insult you- but if you are insulted because I pointed out that the Republicans want to take away health insurance from poor people so millionaires get a tax break- well then I am okay with that.

Dirt poor people already had safety nets . Obamacare helped workers who didn't have affordable health thru work, and self employed people .

 

[Weatherman2020]

Seriously, can anyone tell?

What we do know is liberals keep calling Trump a liar.

Lets go over this again.
.

If Obamacare were the failure the Trumpsters keep claiming it is- then the Republicans would be able to repeal it.

Obamacare repeal is flailing because Obamacare is working

We have gotten used to discussing the Affordable Care Act mainly in terms of its problems, and those problems are real. There are pockets of the country in which it is working poorly. Deductibles are too high, and premiums are volatile. The Trump administration has worked hard to sabotage the insurance exchanges and drive insurers out of the marketplaces.

But focusing on the problems obscures the overwhelming reality: The Affordable Care is popular, it is working, and on every dimension that voters care about, it outperforms the Republican alternatives. And that makes it damn hard to replace.

Poll after poll shows more people now favor the Affordable Care Act than oppose it. It has higher approval ratings than Donald Trump, Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, or the Republican Party. It far outperforms the Republican replacement plans: A new Washington Post/ABC News poll found voters prefer Obamacare to the Republican health bill by a 2-to-1 margin — 50 to 24 percent. You rarely see numbers like that in American politics.

These numbers are strange if you listen to Republicans describe the Affordable Care Act. In their telling, it is always “imploding,” “failing,” “dying,” “disastrous.” How can a law in such crisis command such healthy public support? The answer is that the law is, for the most part, not in crisis. There are areas of the country where the exchanges have struggled to attract insurers, and there are markets in which premiums have increased rapidly. These problems are real and, if the party in power were interested in improving the law, solvable.

But even without improvements, the reality is that for most people, in most places, the Affordable Care Act is working. The bulk of its coverage expansion has been through Medicaid, which is immune to the problems of the insurance marketplaces. Surveys find that Medicaid enrollees really like their coverage; they’re just as satisfied as people who get health insurance at work. Indeed, the Medicaid expansion has proven so popular, and so effective, that Senate Republicans from Medicaid-expanding states like Ohio and Nevada have been fighting to preserve it.

Nor are the exchanges in anything close to a state of collapse. More than 10 million people are buying insurance off Obamacare’s exchanges, and surveys show most of them are happy with their plans. While there are some counties at risk of beginning 2018 without participating insurers, the total number is quite small — 38 out of 3,143 counties, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation.

Nor has the Affordable Care Act seen exploding costs either in the program or in the health care system more broadly; the ACA has cost less than the Congressional Budget Office expected, and spending growth in the health system overall has been at historic lows (an achievement for which Obamacare deserves some, though not all, of the credit). Cost control in the health system has been so unexpectedly effective that the government is now projected to spend less on health care with Obamacare than we were projected to spend without Obamacare.

This is the reality that Republicans are flinging their repeal effort against — and it is a reality that their plans mostly worsen. According to the Congressional Budget Office, over the next 10 years, 23 million fewer people would have insurance if the House health bill passed, 22 million fewer people would have insurance if the Senate health bill passed, and 32 million fewer people would have insurance if the 2015 repeal bill — which McConnell now wants to bring to a vote — passed.

Fake News

Everything you post is fake news.

You just can't handle the facts.

Says the Dufus quoting Huff Post as fact.

a) I didn't quote the Huffington Post
b) I didn't claim what was I posted was a 'fact'- it is an opinion piece that contains facts
c) The facts within the article I cited include:

• Washington Post/ABC News poll found voters prefer Obamacare to the Republican health bill by a 2-to-1 margin — 50 to 24 percent. You rarely see numbers like that in American politics.
• According to the Congressional Budget Office, over the next 10 years, 23 million fewer people would have insurance if the House health bill passed, 22 million fewer people would have insurance if the Senate health bill passed, and 32 million fewer people would have insurance if the 2015 repeal bill — which McConnell now wants to bring to a vote — passed.

Notice how you didn't try to argue with the facts in the article I cited- like a good little Trumpster snowflake- you just whined.

It was not opinion. It stated Fake News and had links to Fake News organizations. It's pure BS what you copied and pasted.

 

[g5000]

Okay, since The Owl has chickened out, I will open up my questions to everyone.

Would you mind pointing us to the replacement for ObamaCare which Trump promised he would provide when his HHS secretary was confirmed last February?

Thank you.

Would you mind pointing us to ANY ObamaCare replacement bill by ANY Republican?

Thank you.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Liberals have convinced themselves Obamacare's failure is all the GOP's fault.

but the people know who owns it.Have faith in the people. power to the people!!!

The majority of people who have coverage because of Obamacare are glad to have it.

Power to the people- don't take their insurance away just so millionaires can get tax breaks.

those people get if for free. i don't. they get it because of me. and then you wish to insult me for providing it. fk off.

Some get it for free. Some don't.

I don't wish to insult you- but if you are insulted because I pointed out that the Republicans want to take away health insurance from poor people so millionaires get a tax break- well then I am okay with that.

Dirt poor people already had safety nets . Obamacare helped workers who didn't have affordable health thru work, and self employed people .

Helped them by making it a law requiring they be helped.

 

[Syriusly]

If Obamacare were the failure the Trumpsters keep claiming it is- then the Republicans would be able to repeal it.

Obamacare repeal is flailing because Obamacare is working

We have gotten used to discussing the Affordable Care Act mainly in terms of its problems, and those problems are real. There are pockets of the country in which it is working poorly. Deductibles are too high, and premiums are volatile. The Trump administration has worked hard to sabotage the insurance exchanges and drive insurers out of the marketplaces.

But focusing on the problems obscures the overwhelming reality: The Affordable Care is popular, it is working, and on every dimension that voters care about, it outperforms the Republican alternatives. And that makes it damn hard to replace.

Poll after poll shows more people now favor the Affordable Care Act than oppose it. It has higher approval ratings than Donald Trump, Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, or the Republican Party. It far outperforms the Republican replacement plans: A new Washington Post/ABC News poll found voters prefer Obamacare to the Republican health bill by a 2-to-1 margin — 50 to 24 percent. You rarely see numbers like that in American politics.

These numbers are strange if you listen to Republicans describe the Affordable Care Act. In their telling, it is always “imploding,” “failing,” “dying,” “disastrous.” How can a law in such crisis command such healthy public support? The answer is that the law is, for the most part, not in crisis. There are areas of the country where the exchanges have struggled to attract insurers, and there are markets in which premiums have increased rapidly. These problems are real and, if the party in power were interested in improving the law, solvable.

But even without improvements, the reality is that for most people, in most places, the Affordable Care Act is working. The bulk of its coverage expansion has been through Medicaid, which is immune to the problems of the insurance marketplaces. Surveys find that Medicaid enrollees really like their coverage; they’re just as satisfied as people who get health insurance at work. Indeed, the Medicaid expansion has proven so popular, and so effective, that Senate Republicans from Medicaid-expanding states like Ohio and Nevada have been fighting to preserve it.

Nor are the exchanges in anything close to a state of collapse. More than 10 million people are buying insurance off Obamacare’s exchanges, and surveys show most of them are happy with their plans. While there are some counties at risk of beginning 2018 without participating insurers, the total number is quite small — 38 out of 3,143 counties, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation.

Nor has the Affordable Care Act seen exploding costs either in the program or in the health care system more broadly; the ACA has cost less than the Congressional Budget Office expected, and spending growth in the health system overall has been at historic lows (an achievement for which Obamacare deserves some, though not all, of the credit). Cost control in the health system has been so unexpectedly effective that the government is now projected to spend less on health care with Obamacare than we were projected to spend without Obamacare.

This is the reality that Republicans are flinging their repeal effort against — and it is a reality that their plans mostly worsen. According to the Congressional Budget Office, over the next 10 years, 23 million fewer people would have insurance if the House health bill passed, 22 million fewer people would have insurance if the Senate health bill passed, and 32 million fewer people would have insurance if the 2015 repeal bill — which McConnell now wants to bring to a vote — passed.

Fake News

Everything you post is fake news.

You just can't handle the facts.

Says the Dufus quoting Huff Post as fact.

a) I didn't quote the Huffington Post
b) I didn't claim what was I posted was a 'fact'- it is an opinion piece that contains facts
c) The facts within the article I cited include:

• Washington Post/ABC News poll found voters prefer Obamacare to the Republican health bill by a 2-to-1 margin — 50 to 24 percent. You rarely see numbers like that in American politics.
• According to the Congressional Budget Office, over the next 10 years, 23 million fewer people would have insurance if the House health bill passed, 22 million fewer people would have insurance if the Senate health bill passed, and 32 million fewer people would have insurance if the 2015 repeal bill — which McConnell now wants to bring to a vote — passed.

Notice how you didn't try to argue with the facts in the article I cited- like a good little Trumpster snowflake- you just whined.

It was not opinion. It stated Fake News and had links to Fake News organizations. It's pure BS what you copied and pasted.

Well notice how you didn't even acknowledge that I caught you in your lie about this being from the Huffingtonpost.

Nor do you even try to contradict any of the facts presented.

Being the good little Trumpster snowflake you are.

 

[g5000]

Trump Vows To Immediately Repeal, Replace 'Imploding' Obamacare

In his first press conference since the election, President-Elect Donald Trump called “Obamacare” a “total disaster” and vowed to repeal and replace it immediately.

Trump said a replacement for “Obamacare” will be offered with the confirmation of his health secretary.

Trump's health secretary was confirmed five months ago.

 

[g5000]

Would someone point us to the replacement for ObamaCare which Trump promised he would provide when his HHS secretary was confirmed last February?

Thank you.

Would someone mind us to ANY ObamaCare replacement bill by ANY Republican?

Thank you.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Fake News

Everything you post is fake news.

You just can't handle the facts.

Says the Dufus quoting Huff Post as fact.

a) I didn't quote the Huffington Post
b) I didn't claim what was I posted was a 'fact'- it is an opinion piece that contains facts
c) The facts within the article I cited include:

• Washington Post/ABC News poll found voters prefer Obamacare to the Republican health bill by a 2-to-1 margin — 50 to 24 percent. You rarely see numbers like that in American politics.
• According to the Congressional Budget Office, over the next 10 years, 23 million fewer people would have insurance if the House health bill passed, 22 million fewer people would have insurance if the Senate health bill passed, and 32 million fewer people would have insurance if the 2015 repeal bill — which McConnell now wants to bring to a vote — passed.

Notice how you didn't try to argue with the facts in the article I cited- like a good little Trumpster snowflake- you just whined.

It was not opinion. It stated Fake News and had links to Fake News organizations. It's pure BS what you copied and pasted.

Well notice how you didn't even acknowledge that I caught you in your lie about this being from the Huffingtonpost.

Nor do you even try to contradict any of the facts presented.

Being the good little Trumpster snowflake you are.

Dufus.

Obama Health Care Law: Favor/Oppose - Polls - HuffPost Pollster

 

[Timmy]

but the people know who owns it.Have faith in the people. power to the people!!!

The majority of people who have coverage because of Obamacare are glad to have it.

Power to the people- don't take their insurance away just so millionaires can get tax breaks.

those people get if for free. i don't. they get it because of me. and then you wish to insult me for providing it. fk off.

Some get it for free. Some don't.

I don't wish to insult you- but if you are insulted because I pointed out that the Republicans want to take away health insurance from poor people so millionaires get a tax break- well then I am okay with that.

Dirt poor people already had safety nets . Obamacare helped workers who didn't have affordable health thru work, and self employed people .

Helped them by making it a law requiring they be helped.

Help they wanted . Yeah , to work you need healthy folks to sign up . So what , we all end up at the doctor . Why should freeloaders skate ?

 

[g5000]

TRUMP: ObamaCare sucks!

MAN: What's your solution?

TRUMP: Look, a hot chick! Let's grab her pussy!

 

[Syriusly]

Everything you post is fake news.

You just can't handle the facts.

Says the Dufus quoting Huff Post as fact.

a) I didn't quote the Huffington Post
b) I didn't claim what was I posted was a 'fact'- it is an opinion piece that contains facts
c) The facts within the article I cited include:

• Washington Post/ABC News poll found voters prefer Obamacare to the Republican health bill by a 2-to-1 margin — 50 to 24 percent. You rarely see numbers like that in American politics.
• According to the Congressional Budget Office, over the next 10 years, 23 million fewer people would have insurance if the House health bill passed, 22 million fewer people would have insurance if the Senate health bill passed, and 32 million fewer people would have insurance if the 2015 repeal bill — which McConnell now wants to bring to a vote — passed.

Notice how you didn't try to argue with the facts in the article I cited- like a good little Trumpster snowflake- you just whined.

It was not opinion. It stated Fake News and had links to Fake News organizations. It's pure BS what you copied and pasted.

Well notice how you didn't even acknowledge that I caught you in your lie about this being from the Huffingtonpost.

Nor do you even try to contradict any of the facts presented.

Being the good little Trumpster snowflake you are.

Dufus.

Obama Health Care Law: Favor/Oppose - Polls - HuffPost Pollster

Now you are lying that I quoted this poll?
Being the good little Trumpster snowflake you are.[

 

[g5000]

I agree ObamaCare blows. And sucks. And it is a disaster. And it causes cavities.

I hate ObamaCare and always have.

Now...show me the Republican replacement.

As the saying goes, if you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

So go ahead. SHOW ME THE REPLACEMENT, LOSERS!

 

[Timmy]

If o-care is so bad , why can't they repeal? Simple question .

 

[g5000]

 

[Timmy]

I agree ObamaCare blows. And sucks. And it is a disaster. And it causes cavities.

Now...show me the Republican replacement.

As the saying goes, if you aren't part of the solution you are part of the problem.

So go ahead. SHOW ME THE REPLACEMENT, LOSERS!

You mean trumps replacement that keeps all the good stuff of Obamacare , but without the bad that pays for it . Oh, and the new plan will be cheaper ! And unicorns will fly out trumps butt!

 

[g5000]

“I’m going to be working for you. I’m not going to have time to go play golf. Bleev me. Bleev me. Bleev me, folks." - Donald Trump, August 8, 2016

 

[Timmy]

Look . It's simple . Sell plans across state lines!!!!! Duh!

Suddenly a $800 month family plan will now cost you $7.35 !! And you get a coupon for a free taco at Taco City!