Can Liberals Criticise Obama?

Most lefties are sycophants. It's not often you hear them whine about Gitmo, drones and the like since the dawn of "Post-Racial America".


The left has whined about Obama not shutting down GITMO since early on. The left screams the loudest about the policies on drones. Now crawl back under your rock -- now.
Yes, because silence on these topics is deafening. To be fair, I do hear the occasional peep on these subjects, but long gone is the righteous indignation and constant whining. I suppose you would have to understand what hypocrisy is.

Your comprehension skills are on hold here. The huge protests were about taking us into war in Iraq, not Afghanistan. Who took us into war in Iraq? Obama? War in Iraq was winding down when Obama entered office. So, what was there to protest?
 
OK, I want you to be truthful, you want single payer healthcare because you think it will mean free healthcare for YOU, right?

what you fail to realize is that it will mean higher taxes for YOU, crappy medical care for YOU, and long waits to see a differenct doctor every visit.

But admit the first part, you think it will be free for you, don't you?

In the real world most all Americans have long waits to see primary care doctors and specialists. Higher taxes for guaranteed care is a plus. Higher taxes do not correlate to quality of care.

The imbecilic statement about long waits to see different doctors? Is that some talking point from wingnut nation?
 
You don't compromise with people you have nothing in common with.
How hard is this to comprehend?

Sure you do.

The alternative - as we saw with the fiscal cliff - is holding the country to ransom.

Compromise is achieve when you have two or more groups with the same goal mindset but want to take a different direction in achiving that goal and they meet somewhere in the middle.
obama and liberals have nothing in common with America, they have more in common with you and your kind.
 
The left has whined about Obama not shutting down GITMO since early on. The left screams the loudest about the policies on drones. Now crawl back under your rock -- now.
Yes, because silence on these topics is deafening. To be fair, I do hear the occasional peep on these subjects, but long gone is the righteous indignation and constant whining. I suppose you would have to understand what hypocrisy is.

Your comprehension skills are on hold here. The huge protests were about taking us into war in Iraq, not Afghanistan. Who took us into war in Iraq? Obama? War in Iraq was winding down when Obama entered office. So, what was there to protest?
The killiings of "innocents in Afghanistan by drone attacks and the detention in Gitmo of those poor Taliban and Al Queda fighters. That, or human life and rights are just not that important anymore. You would have to understand the hypocrisy of selective righteous indignation.
 
OK, I want you to be truthful, you want single payer healthcare because you think it will mean free healthcare for YOU, right?

what you fail to realize is that it will mean higher taxes for YOU, crappy medical care for YOU, and long waits to see a differenct doctor every visit.

But admit the first part, you think it will be free for you, don't you?

In the real world most all Americans have long waits to see primary care doctors and specialists. Higher taxes for guaranteed care is a plus. Higher taxes do not correlate to quality of care.

The imbecilic statement about long waits to see different doctors? Is that some talking point from wingnut nation?

typical post from a disengenuous poster^^^^

Ask people in the UK about long waits and different doctors. Ask Russians, ask Cubans, ask Greeks, ask Japanese--------its what you get from socialized medicine.

It all sounds wonderful, but it does not work.

You are also wrong about americans "in the real world" having long waits to see specialists and primary care docs---------that is just a left wing bullshit talking point. absolutely no basis in fact. not surprising from you.
 
man is not affecting the climate of the planet, if you want to take on pollution I am with you 100%

keeper post (Dante - climate change note). complete ignorance and denial = idiocy

The argument is about how much man is affecting the climate, not if we are.

Bullshit. man is polluting parts of the planet, but man is not changing the climate of the planet.

but since you think we are, how did man cause the last ice age?
 
Of course Liberals can and do criticize Obama - but the smarter ones don't do it in public to give the rabid right unnecessary ammunition. I generally defend Obama rather than criticize him in public, but if I have worthwhile complaints - I email them to the DNC and White House.

Yes, there is enough kneejerk criticism as it is. Any intelligent person who reads and keeps up to date knows that the left has plenty of problems wit Obama. The right just wants to ignore this so that they can call him our Messiah, Boy King, etc. etc. etc.
 
Of course Liberals can and do criticize Obama - but the smarter ones don't do it in public to give the rabid right unnecessary ammunition. I generally defend Obama rather than criticize him in public, but if I have worthwhile complaints - I email them to the DNC and White House.

Yes, there is enough kneejerk criticism as it is. Any intelligent person who reads and keeps up to date knows that the left has plenty of problems wit Obama. The right just wants to ignore this so that they can call him our Messiah, Boy King, etc. etc. etc.

you gave him 4 more years to continue his damage to the country. its all on you now. do you think your criticisms will change him in any way? do you think he gives a shit whether you agree with him?
 
Redfish -

2. man is not affecting the climate of the planet, if you want to take on pollution I am with you 100%

Ten years ago that was a reasonable position - albeit not a very widely accepted one scientifically. Now it simply doesn't hold water.

It is in issues like this that Republicans risk becoming a laughing stock.
 
Of course Liberals can and do criticize Obama - but the smarter ones don't do it in public to give the rabid right unnecessary ammunition. I generally defend Obama rather than criticize him in public, but if I have worthwhile complaints - I email them to the DNC and White House.

Yes, there is enough kneejerk criticism as it is. Any intelligent person who reads and keeps up to date knows that the left has plenty of problems wit Obama. The right just wants to ignore this so that they can call him our Messiah, Boy King, etc. etc. etc.

you gave him 4 more years to continue his damage to the country. its all on you now. do you think your criticisms will change him in any way? do you think he gives a shit whether you agree with him?

Hopefully. He has another 4 years, and plenty to with little to lose.
 
Yes, because silence on these topics is deafening. To be fair, I do hear the occasional peep on these subjects, but long gone is the righteous indignation and constant whining. I suppose you would have to understand what hypocrisy is.

Your comprehension skills are on hold here. The huge protests were about taking us into war in Iraq, not Afghanistan. Who took us into war in Iraq? Obama? War in Iraq was winding down when Obama entered office. So, what was there to protest?
The killiings of "innocents in Afghanistan by drone attacks and the detention in Gitmo of those poor Taliban and Al Queda fighters. That, or human life and rights are just not that important anymore. You would have to understand the hypocrisy of selective righteous indignation.

You need to get out more, learn to use search engines, and get your head out of your ass on this one.

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Yes, there is enough kneejerk criticism as it is. Any intelligent person who reads and keeps up to date knows that the left has plenty of problems wit Obama. The right just wants to ignore this so that they can call him our Messiah, Boy King, etc. etc. etc.

you gave him 4 more years to continue his damage to the country. its all on you now. do you think your criticisms will change him in any way? do you think he gives a shit whether you agree with him?

Hopefully. He has another 4 years, and plenty to with little to lose.

got some news for you. he got your vote, thats all he wanted from you. now he wants you to shut up and watch as he turns the USA into a marxist dictatorship.

YOU, the 51% that gave him a second term, are responsible. you deserve what you voted for.
 
OK, I want you to be truthful, you want single payer healthcare because you think it will mean free healthcare for YOU, right?

what you fail to realize is that it will mean higher taxes for YOU, crappy medical care for YOU, and long waits to see a differenct doctor every visit.

But admit the first part, you think it will be free for you, don't you?

In the real world most all Americans have long waits to see primary care doctors and specialists. Higher taxes for guaranteed care is a plus. Higher taxes do not correlate to quality of care.

The imbecilic statement about long waits to see different doctors? Is that some talking point from wingnut nation?

typical post from a disengenuous poster^^^^

Ask people in the UK about long waits and different doctors. Ask Russians, ask Cubans, ask Greeks, ask Japanese--------its what you get from socialized medicine.

It all sounds wonderful, but it does not work.

You are also wrong about americans "in the real world" having long waits to see specialists and primary care docs---------that is just a left wing bullshit talking point. absolutely no basis in fact. not surprising from you.

Cherry picking? Ask the Swiss. Interviews - Pascal Couchepin | Sick Around The World | FRONTLINE | PBS

correlations do not equal causation. The Constitutional Obamacare law will not have government taking over medical care. It's simply about health insurance payments

5 Capitalist Democracies & How They Do It
 
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you gave him 4 more years to continue his damage to the country. its all on you now. do you think your criticisms will change him in any way? do you think he gives a shit whether you agree with him?

Hopefully. He has another 4 years, and plenty to with little to lose.

got some news for you. he got your vote, thats all he wanted from you. now he wants you to shut up and watch as he turns the USA into a marxist dictatorship.

YOU, the 51% that gave him a second term, are responsible. you deserve what you voted for.

:cuckoo: whacko stories about Marxism when most normal people know that is bunk
 
OK, I want you to be truthful, you want single payer healthcare because you think it will mean free healthcare for YOU, right?

what you fail to realize is that it will mean higher taxes for YOU, crappy medical care for YOU, and long waits to see a differenct doctor every visit.

But admit the first part, you think it will be free for you, don't you?

In the real world most all Americans have long waits to see primary care doctors and specialists. Higher taxes for guaranteed care is a plus. Higher taxes do not correlate to quality of care.

The imbecilic statement about long waits to see different doctors? Is that some talking point from wingnut nation?


Ask people in the UK about long waits and different doctors. Ask Russians, ask Cubans, ask Greeks, ask Japanese--------its what you get from socialized medicine.

It all sounds wonderful, but it does not work.

You are also wrong about americans "in the real world" having long waits to see specialists and primary care docs---------that is just a left wing bullshit talking point. absolutely no basis in fact. not surprising from you.

Case in point: Americans.
FWIW in California a PCP receives $17 in payment from MediCal, no matter how long the office visit is or what medications must be given on sight.
 
Dubya -

I usually use UK spellings. I live in the EU, and UK spellings are thus more common here.

Don't criticise me for that!! :)

It has an entirely different definition.

1. To examine and judge as a critic; to pass literary or artistic judgment upon; as, to criticise an author; to criticise a picture.
[imp. & p. p. Criticised (-s?zd); p. pr. & vb. n. Criticising.]
2. To express one's views as to the merit or demerit of; esp., to animadvert upon; to find fault with; as, to criticise conduct.
v. i. 1. To act as a critic; to pass literary or artistic judgment; to play the critic; - formerly used with on or upon.
Several of these ladies, indeed, criticised upon the form of the association.
- Addison.
2. To discuss the merits or demerits of a thing or person; esp., to find fault.
Cavil you may, but never criticise.
- Pope.

Source: Criticise - definition of Criticise by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

As far as I've know the UK uses a z too. My online dictionary uses the UK flag for English and contains UK spellings.
 
In the real world most all Americans have long waits to see primary care doctors and specialists. Higher taxes for guaranteed care is a plus. Higher taxes do not correlate to quality of care.

The imbecilic statement about long waits to see different doctors? Is that some talking point from wingnut nation?

typical post from a disengenuous poster^^^^

Ask people in the UK about long waits and different doctors. Ask Russians, ask Cubans, ask Greeks, ask Japanese--------its what you get from socialized medicine.

It all sounds wonderful, but it does not work.

You are also wrong about americans "in the real world" having long waits to see specialists and primary care docs---------that is just a left wing bullshit talking point. absolutely no basis in fact. not surprising from you.

Cherry picking? Ask the Swiss. Interviews - Pascal Couchepin | Sick Around The World | FRONTLINE | PBS

correlations do not equal causation. The Constitutional Obamacare law will not have government taking over medical care. It's simply about health insurance payments

5 Capitalist Democracies & How They Do It

your naivete knows no bounds. The ultimate end product of obamacare was always intended to be government-one payer medicine. The plan is to drive the insurance companies out of business by making the penalty less than the cost of insurance. Then the govt steps in and takes over. It may take a few years, but that has always been the plan of the socialist obama and his cronies.
 
Hopefully. He has another 4 years, and plenty to with little to lose.

got some news for you. he got your vote, thats all he wanted from you. now he wants you to shut up and watch as he turns the USA into a marxist dictatorship.

YOU, the 51% that gave him a second term, are responsible. you deserve what you voted for.

:cuckoo: whacko stories about Marxism when most normal people know that is bunk

Marx "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs"

Obama "I want to redistribute the wealth" "you didn't build that"


same song, different tune
 
It has an entirely different definition.

Note the difference with British and American usage:


crit·i·cize
[krit-uh-sahyz] Show IPA verb, crit·i·cized, crit·i·ciz·ing.
verb (used with object)
1.
to censure or find fault with.
2.
to judge or discuss the merits and faults of: to criticize three novels in one review.
verb (used without object)
3.
to find fault; judge unfavorably or harshly.
4.
to make judgments as to merits and faults.
Also, especially British, crit·i·cise.

Criticize | Define Criticize at Dictionary.com

I have no problem with pedantry, but to be a pedant of quality, one has to know the difference between UK and US usage is more subtle than most people realise. Or realize. :)
 
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