Capitalism exists to oppress the bottom and protect the top - change my mind

[bripat9643]

I guess public education has failed us.

American-Indian Wars

Your ignorance is proof of that.

 

[citygator]

Capitalism exists to oppress the bottom and protect the top - change my mind​

It's not Capitalism that oppressed, beats down, and keeps lower and middle classes struggling - its self-servibg, criminal, Insider Trading, corrupt, oppressove millionaire Democrats who make their ill-gotten fortunes through Capitalism while trying to destroy it and the country.

I think your take would be better if you didn’t bury in tribalism partisan BS. Corporatism is what you mean which isn’t party. Free yourself from the Foxhole man. Democrats aren’t coming for you in your sleep but the wealthy company owners are trying to get as much as they can from you.

 

[pknopp]

I think your take would be better if you didn’t bury in tribalism partisan BS. Corporatism is what you mean which isn’t party. Free yourself from the Foxhole man. Democrats aren’t coming for you in your sleep but the wealthy company owners are trying to get as much as they can from you.

Which is supported by both parties.

 

[Turtlesoup]

Agreed. However? IMO, I don't think the tax and spend Keynesians, in the establishment conservative party are offering much in the way of solutions, they haven't been for twenty years, and Trump only teased last time he was in office, he never delivered.

I remember it was, in 2006, or 2007, Peter Schiff was predicting the eminent crash, and all the MSM was calling him a kook. I was reading a Craig Roberts blog, and the stuff from Edward Harle, (Christopher Story,) which was predicting the same mess, as a result of the Fannie/Freddie mess.

They all turned out to be right.

Now, this EPI and its sister policy center, seemed to have supported Sanders, and has its folks in the Biden admin. And now we have run away inflation?

You know what is even MORE interesting? Peter Schiff appearing on Jimmy Dore! Dore was a HUGE Sanders supporter, which means, by extension, an EPI cheerleader, and a Keynsian economist. . . but cracks seem to be appearing in what he is willing to accept. Watching him be open to different ideas as gas, food and inflation destroy this nation? Interesting.

THAT? Is completely bat shit insane, I am talking twilight zone material.
IMO? All this JAN 6th crap is nothing but a distraction.

The hypothesis here? The energy and food situation in Europe are going to get critical, and the economy in the US is going to get as bad as we have ever seen since, probably the depression . . . we will no longer, at least the population won't, have any stomach to send a bit of support to Ukraine. . . INFLATION? OUT OF CONTROL!!!!!

I never, EVER, thought I would see the day, when an Austrian Economist, would be schooling a hard core, BERNIE BRO, and a super hypnotized Keynesian, on Economics.

But I mean, seriously, how many times can Krugman step in shit, and with this? Yellen admitting she hasn't known what she has been doing all along?

We have crossed into the twilight zone, and things are getting way, WAY in the deep end. . . And things are really, starting to spin out of control now.

Runaway Inflation Is About To Collapse The US Economy w/ Peter Schiff​

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The FEDS have one job---------just ONE and they failed it. This was no accident and not just a simple misstake. It was and is a plan.

 

[dblack]

The main thing is - every. single. fucking. decision. should be a matter of majority rule.

 

[Turtlesoup]

I think your take would be better if you didn’t bury in tribalism partisan BS. Corporatism is what you mean which isn’t party. Free yourself from the Foxhole man. Democrats aren’t coming for you in your sleep but the wealthy company owners are trying to get as much as they can from you.

Oh brother---we gots to get the evil rich----which is really anyone that has something that you want. Corporations have some or many that are greedy, but you money grubbing communists/socialists have them all beat when it comes to unbridled destructive GREED...hence why communist and socialist nations also starve eventually.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I think your take would be better if you didn’t bury in tribalism partisan BS. Corporatism is what you mean which isn’t party. Free yourself from the Foxhole man. Democrats aren’t coming for you in your sleep but the wealthy company owners are trying to get as much as they can from you.

In what way?

 

[citygator]

In what way?

The goal of companies is to make a profit at your expense. Low wages low costs high prices. It’s the game. There is value in their production but we have to be steadfast about using our collective labor power and collective consumer power to keep a balance. It’s not their today. The market works best when all they’re are strong and on equal footing.

 

[citygator]

Oh brother---we gots to get the evil rich----which is really anyone that has something that you want. Corporations have some or many that are greedy, but you money grubbing communists/socialists have them all beat when it comes to unbridled destructive GREED...hence why communist and socialist nations also starve eventually.

No one has anything I want that I can’t buy. I’m not Bezos but I have plenty. Your partisan blinders make you easy to manipulate. Throw out a few buzzwords like socialism and they have you. You are a slave to your masters’ manipulation. If you educate yourself and open your eyes you’ll be strong enough to resist it.

 

[citygator]

Which is supported by both parties.

Money should be legislated out of politics. Citizens United was a disaster for our country.

 

[Correll]

Money should be legislated out of politics. Citizens United was a disaster for our country.

Getting money out, makes it harder for outsiders to get heard. That is not a step toward freedom.

 

[pknopp]

Money should be legislated out of politics. Citizens United was a disaster for our country.

Citizen United is not what politicians tell you it was. It was a law to restrict the people not business and politicians.

It backfired once the Supreme Court got it.

 

[citygator]

Citizen United is not what politicians tell you it was. It was a law to restrict the people not business and politicians.

It backfired once the Supreme Court got it.

Everyone has an opinion. Money isn’t speech.

1. “Independent” Spending Farce Leads To SuperPACs
2. Legal Money Laundering Increases Secret Spending
3. Corporate Money Distorts Democracy
4. Court is Blind to Reality of Corruption
5. Citizen Voices are Drowned Out
6. Money Is Still Not Speech
7. Open Season on Remaining Money in Politics Protections
8. Increases Corporate Power
9. Unlimited Corporate Spending is Bad for Business and Shareholders
10. Risks Reducing Respect for the Supreme Court

 

[pknopp]

Everyone has an opinion. Money isn’t speech.

1. “Independent” Spending Farce Leads To SuperPACs
2. Legal Money Laundering Increases Secret Spending
3. Corporate Money Distorts Democracy
4. Court is Blind to Reality of Corruption
5. Citizen Voices are Drowned Out
6. Money Is Still Not Speech
7. Open Season on Remaining Money in Politics Protections
8. Increases Corporate Power
9. Unlimited Corporate Spending is Bad for Business and Shareholders
10. Risks Reducing Respect for the Supreme Court

If politicians had done what they pretended to do it would have stood.

 

[BrokeLoser]

The main thing is - every. single. fucking. decision. should be a matter of majority rule.

How would that work out for that tiny little faction of weirdos called LibTarians?

 

[Oddball]

The United States did until 1933.

1913

 

[scruffy]

I think your take would be better if you didn’t bury in tribalism partisan BS. Corporatism is what you mean which isn’t party. Free yourself from the Foxhole man. Democrats aren’t coming for you in your sleep but the wealthy company owners are trying to get as much as they can from you.

They don't wait till I'm asleep anymore.

 

[Oddball]

No one has anything I want that I can’t buy. I’m not Bezos but I have plenty. Your partisan blinders make you easy to manipulate. Throw out a few buzzwords like socialism and they have you. You are a slave to your masters’ manipulation. If you educate yourself and open your eyes you’ll be strong enough to resist it.

 

[Independent thinker]

We are in a current situation where the workers at the bottom cannot get a raise of share in the economy without those in power taking it back from them.

• The rising wages at the bottom are seen as an evil trend destabilizing the economy
• Company profit margins being higher than ever (basically rising wages at the top) is seen as economically healthy and good
• Companies have raised prices to protect profit margins to historical highs during supply issues taking advantage of shortages in the marketplace is seen as good
• The Uber wealthy continue to accumulate wealth in tough pandemic times and good times (pre and post pandemic) and no one cares
• The answer from those in power will be to raise interest rates, slow the economy to create unemployment hurting the bottom, again
• Tax rates on workers and capital continue to favor capital owners
• Unrealized wealth is only accumulated by the top - hell wealth is only accumulated at the top where top 10% own 89% of the wealth
• CEOs are making a historical multiplier over their workers salary, north of 270X’s

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I owe my livelihood to capitalism and make top 1% money but it is the systemic exploitation of the bottom through very powerful controls of capital at the top. There needs to be a more balanced playing field.

How can people who work with their way through life get the same breaks as those who own their way through life? No one wants to take shit away… they want a fair shake.

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Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, so you prefer socialism, where everyone is at the bottom?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Money should be legislated out of politics.

Government spends something like $10 trillion a year.
Get that money out of politics first.